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Seven Questions: José Ramos-Horta

East Timor's Nobel Prize-winning president asks, just who is the failed state here?

BY SIMON ROUGHNEEN | JULY 9, 2009

FP: Generating employment is vital, given East Timor's youthful demographics and the links between unemployment and gang and/or political violence. What needs to be done to address this?

JRH: For a few years now, the government has to be the agent that takes the lead in economic development in this country. We need massive investments in roads and roads and roads. If we are serious about developing our agriculture and ensuring food security, if we want to promote tourism, if we want to provide our people access to services such as education and health, we need roads. This will create thousands of jobs for many years to come, and this [project] will last 10 years. We will build 4,000 kilometers of roads, a new airport, and a port. Foreign investment will come from tourism as we develop this infrastructure.

We are negotiating with Digicel to become the second mobile carrier here, to complement Timor Telecom, which is majority-owned by Portugal Telecom [PT]. We have started dialogue with PT for them to agree to our preference, which is [market] liberalization. PT should abide by European standards -- so no monopolies here, as in Europe. As prices are reduced, you will see a huge expansion of mobile-phone users. Timor could have 500,000, maybe even 800,000 users, rather than the current 150,000 out of a population of 1.1 million.

FP: East Timor will soon celebrate its 10-year anniversary of the end of Indonesian occupation. How do you plan to mark this date?

JRH: We will celebrate August 30 in a booming economy. Dili and the rest of country are at peace; the police and Army are reconciled; and we are celebrating at a time when cooperation between Timor-Leste and Indonesia is at its best -- no two countries on the planet have a better bilateral relationship.

FP: What plans are in place for post-conflict justice for the crimes committed during the Indonesian occupation and around the 1999 referendum?

JRH: My personal preference is to adopt a law that simply puts an end to the tragic chapters of the past. Let bygones be bygones. Let us not forget the victims and heroes, but let us forgive those who did harm, because God gave us a greater gift: our independence.

Let's forget about an international tribunal -- it will never happen.

Indonesia has been remarkable. It left humiliated, after investing in Timor-Leste in a way that the Portuguese never did. Indonesia is today the most vibrant democracy in Southeast Asia. It has made remarkable progress, and I leave it to them on their own watch to deal with the perpetrators of violence in Indonesia and Timor-Leste.

I lost two brothers and a sister [in the violence]. We were able to exhume the body of my sister in 2003, but we have never been able to trace [my brothers,] Nuno or Gil [Guilherme]. My mother disagrees with me, and many mothers do not share my accommodating stance with Indonesia. I say the greater justice is that we are free.

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José Ramos-Horta is president of Timor-Leste and winner of the Nobel Peace Prize in 1996. Simon Roughneen is an Irish journalist covering Southeast Asia.

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6:47 AM ET

July 15, 2009

Sounds like a populist...

...Always speaking in bombastic superlatives "Indonesia and Timor Leste have the best bilateral relations in the world", "There is no one more caring and honest than my Prime Minister"

...Calling academics and commentators critical of him "pseudo-intellectuals" writing for "so-called academic journals" is always the hallmark of a demagogue in the making. Trying to deride erudition and intelligence is populism 101.

...Making fantastical statements like comparing Timor-Leste, with a GDP per capita comparable to India, about 50% of people below the poverty line, and a precarious security situation to the United States and saying that Timor-Leste is "failing less" than the US.

I expect him to attempt constitutional changes to let himself stay in power for longer than he's meant to in a couple of years at the most. As soon as a real crisis hits the country.

 
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