Is Paul Wolfowitz for Real?

Four writers -- Stephen M. Walt, David J. Rothkopf, Daniel W. Drezner, and Steve Clemons -- weigh in on Paul Wolfowitz's critique of realism and U.S. President Barack Obama. 

AUGUST 27, 2009

Just Because He Walks Like a Realist...

By Stephen M. Walt

It is easy to understand why Paul Wolfowitz dislikes "realism." On the most significant foreign-policy decision since the end of the Cold War -- the ill-fated invasion of Iraq in 2003 -- the realists who opposed it were right and Wolfowitz and the other architects of the war were dead wrong. No wonder he begins his article by saying that this "is not the place to reargue the Iraq War." I'd try to exclude Iraq from discussion if I were him too, because that tragedy demonstrates the virtues of realism and the follies of Wolfowitz's own worldview.

On the whole, Wolfowitz's discussion of "realism" in the Sept./Oct. issue of FP is about as accurate as his 2002 estimates about the troop levels needed to occupy Iraq and the overall costs of the war. He implies that realists are uninterested in moral issues and claims "there is a serious debate" between realists and their critics regarding the peaceful promotion of political change. But this is a caricature of realist thinking and a nonexistent debate, and it is telling that he never offers any evidence to support his description. The only "realists" he bothers to mention are Brent Scowcroft and Zbigniew Brzezinski, and he never quotes or cites other prominent realist scholars or policymakers. Having decided to expose realism's alleged limitations, in short, apparently he couldn't be bothered to do some research and read what they had to say.  

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What do realists believe? Realists see international politics as an inherently competitive realm where states compete for advantage and where security is sometimes precarious. So, realists emphasize that states should keep a keen eye on the balance of power, which makes them wary of squandering blood or treasure on needless military buildups, ideological crusades, or foolish foreign wars. Realists cherish America's commitment to democracy and individual liberty, but they know that ideals alone are no basis for conducting foreign policy. They also understand that endless overseas adventures will inevitably provoke a hostile backlash abroad and force us to compromise freedoms at home.  

Realism also emphasizes that other states will defend their interests vigorously, that successful diplomacy requires give-and-take, and that advancing U.S. interests sometimes requires us to do business with regimes whose values we find objectionable.  In recent years, realists have also reminded their fellow citizens that nationalism is a powerful force and that most societies bristle, and ultimately rebel, when outsiders try to tell them how to run their own affairs. Realists also understand that no system of government is perfect, and that even well-intentioned democracies sometimes do foolish and cruel things. Most important of all, realists understand that military force is a blunt and costly instrument whose ultimate effects are difficult to foresee, and that states should go to war only when vital interests are at stake.

Contrary to Wolfowitz's claims, realists are not indifferent to moral concerns, including the virtues of democratic government and the value of basic human rights. There is no "debate" between realists and idealists over the desirability of these things in the abstract, and little or no disagreement about whether the United States should encourage such changes peacefully. I know of no realists who oppose the peaceful encouragement of core U.S. values, and Wolfowitz offers no examples of any. As the debate over the Iraq War revealed, the real issue is whether the United States and its democratic allies should be trying to spread these ideals at the point of a gun, or sacrificing other important interests in order to advance them.

Realists oppose such efforts for at least four reasons. First, promoting regime change via military force costs lots of lives, money and prestige. Wolfowitz's war in Iraq led to the deaths of more than 4,300 Americans (plus more than 30,000 wounded), as well as at least 100,000-plus Iraqis (and maybe far more). It also cost the U.S. taxpayer over $1 trillion (and counting). It is frankly hard to see the moral virtue in that "achievement." The present Iraqi government may be an improvement on Saddam Hussein's regime, but it is hardly a model of representative democracy, its long-term fate is uncertain, and the costs of imposing it have been enormous.

Second, realists are wary of idealistic wars of choice because they invariably force policymakers to engage in threat-inflation and deception in order to stampede the public into supporting actions that they would otherwise oppose. Wolfowitz was an able practitioner of this art while in office, but realists know that such behavior inevitably erodes the integrity of public institutions, the overall quality of governmental decision-making, and ultimately, public trust. When policymakers can only get things done by deceiving their fellow citizens, how can democratic institutions continue to function effectively?

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 SUBJECTS:
 

Stephen M. Walt, a Foreign Policy blogger, is the Robert and Renée Belfer Professor of International Affairs at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government and coauthor with J.J. Mearsheimer of The Israel Lobby.

David J. Rothkopf, a Foreign Policy blogger, is president and chief executive of Garten Rothkopf, a Washington-based advisory firm specializing in energy, climate, and global risk-related issues. He is a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and author most recently of Superclass: The Global Elite and the World They Are Making.

Daniel W. Drezner, a Foreign Policy blogger, is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University, a senior editor at The National Interest.  

Steve Clemons is director of the American Strategy Program at the New America Foundation and publishes the popular political blog, The Washington Note.

BRETT

7:22 PM ET

August 27, 2009

Good comments from you four.

Good comments from you four. I do have one concern-

What do you think about the role of norms with regards to Realism? Right now, it seems like norms are pealing off in contradictory directions - on one hand, you've got plenty of people in the Third World demanding that the First World states respect their sovereignty and butt out of their affairs. On the other hand, you've got those same people (and plenty in the First World) complaining about "violations" of international norms, democracy, etc.

 

JAMES MORRIS

9:20 PM ET

August 27, 2009

The Transparent Cabal

Steve Sniegoski has the goods on Wolfowitz and the other JINSA/PNAC/AEI Neocons in his 'The Transparent Cabal' book:

Stephen Sniegoski’s lecture on his book, “The Transparent Cabal”:

http://america-hijacked.com/2009/08/16/stephen-sniegoskis-lecture-on-his-book-the-transparent-cabal/

 

HEISEL

11:09 AM ET

August 28, 2009

Modesty

An important part of the debate concerns the question of how much emphasis should be placed on the export of democracy as a foreign policy goal per se. While there is disagreement about this, Wolfowitz and all the commentators, even Stephen Walt, take for granted - or at least do not question - the assumption that American democracy is worth exporting. I have no doubt that the American model is superior to that of Saddam Hussein's Iraq or Mobutu's Zimbabwe, but Americans should appreciate that, seen from the outside, it does not look very attractive:

- a partly disfunctional political system rife with illegal and legal corruption, where money plays a much greater role and buys influence much more easily than in other Western countries, where practices that would qualify as election fraud in other countries are commonplace

- a constitution that, being one of the greatest documents of human history, is now showing its age and could do with some modernisation (which is not going to happen)

- an often barbaric, politicised, arcane, unreasonable, particularly expensive justice system (that some people inexplicably think is the envy of the world, a mystery to any informed observer)

- Guantànamo, Baghram, Abu Ghraib, torture, murder and all the rest.

Once you appreciate this, your perspective on exporting "democracy" changes a little.

 

STOP THE NONSENSE

2:58 PM ET

August 28, 2009

Clear eyed

Wolfowitz is right.

Wolfowitz for president!!!

Some may laugh but I'm serious - seriously - stop laughing.

He has a clear-eyed vision of how U.S. foreign policy should operate.
He speaks the language of common sense.

What more can I ask.

You're the best Wolfie Boy.

 

CHARLI CARPENTER

9:17 AM ET

August 29, 2009

Wolfowitz needs to brush up

Wolfowitz needs to brush up on his basic concepts.

For example, since when is "how to manage relations between states" merely the province of realism, and "how to change the nature of states" the province of non-realism? Strikes me that the former covers the entire discipline of IR theory and the practice of statecraft. Cleavages between realists and others are about strategies for achieving that first goal; no one disputes the goal itself.

And his claim that by paying lip service to democratic ideals Obama is proving is non-realist-credentials shows he doesn't really get classical realism. Realists would be the first to argue that statesmen should use such rhetoric to their advantage - they just shouldn't start believing it themselves. Given the chasm between rhetoric and action on a number of issues since Obama took office, I doubt it's analytically useful to use Obama's words in speeches abroad as evidence of the administration's position. (Admiral Mike Mullen agrees with me - though disagrees that this is a useful strategy of soft power; so I guess he's the 'non-realist.')

And Brett: you ask a complex question, but for starters, "sovereignty" IS an international norm, so the two examples you give aren't really in tension.

 

CORNELIUSVANSANT

10:48 AM ET

August 30, 2009

Realism, realism, it is

Realism, realism, it is convoluted nonsense. It all comes down to nuclear proliferation and the coercive capability demonstrated by the nuking of Nagasaki and the inevitability of proliferation to militant theocratic dictatorships.

Here is the key . . . We fear no real democracy however they are armed.

Neither missile nor bomber is necessary when delivery is by suicide and great nations can be defeated by stateless barbarians who have no return address – no retaliation coordinates. A nuclear weapon delivered by small watercraft on any beach in America, or any nation with a coastline for that matter could coerce a standing army, which in turn would enforce Sharia Law. Command and control could be anywhere including within the victimized nation.

As Tariq Aziz, advisor to Sadaam Hussein, said in tapes discovered after the invasion "Sir. . . No need to accuse a state. An individual can do it."

 

HARVEY------------------------------------------------------

12:51 PM ET

August 31, 2009

Is Paul Wolfowitz for Real?

Where else could such a poor judge of whats best for the USA find haven.

The neocon traitors to the US should be charged with treason.

The war favored Israel and has caused the murder of over 1.3 Million Iraqis according to ICH.

 

SNOOKYBUTTS

6:21 PM ET

August 31, 2009

stephen walt

Its disgusting to see Walt quoting the statistic from a recent study that "U.S. military intervention lowered the prospects for democracy by about 33 percent," when the most obvious explanation is that when the U.S. intervened, it was generally not to promote a democratic government. It is "realist" foreign policies that have created that fact, and if we instead had been guided by thinking more like Wolfowitz's, it would not exist to blacken our name.