Time for India to Play Hardball with China

With its recent provocations, Beijing seems to think New Delhi is still the naive young power of yesteryear. It's time for India's leaders to prove otherwise.

BY KAPIL KOMIREDDI | OCTOBER 2, 2009

For a while it seemed as though no action of Beijing's could provoke India's ire -- and that there was no length to which India was unwilling to go to appease China. Earlier this year, reports of Chinese incursions into Indian territory were dismissed by the defense ministry in New Delhi as media-manufactured hyperbole. India heeded Beijing's requests to restrict the political activities of the Dalai Lama, whose government-in-exile sits in the Himalayan town of Dharamsala. In 2006, New Delhi even enforced a penal code dating back to the days of the British Raj to put the Tibetan activist Tenzin Tsunde under armed surveillance, outraging the 100,000-strong Tibetan community in exile, which pointed to the irony of democratic India invoking colonial-era laws to suppress their peaceful protest against an authoritarian regime.

But this week, Beijing pushed India too far. It emerged that the Chinese Embassy in New Delhi has been issuing irregular visas to Kashmiri Indians, stapling a handwritten document to their passports rather than pasting printed copies as it does with other Indians. A separatist struggle, funded and backed by Pakistan, has raged on in Kashmir with renewed vigour since the late 1980s. By treating Kashmiri visa applicants differently from other Indians, Beijing is not merely recognising Kashmir as a disputed territory; it is officially refusing to accept Kashmiris' right to full Indian citizenship. In other words, it is telling India who can, and cannot, be an Indian citizen -- and telling Kashmiris that they cannot rise above their regionalist prejudices to embrace a larger pluralistic identity.

India has responded with uncharacteristic swiftness, issuing a directive barring all such visa holders from getting on China-bound planes. But for all the bluster, Indian government officials are acutely aware that this is yet another ad hoc response by India to what is the most recent in a series of Chinese provocations. First, Beijing attempted in March to block a $2.9 billion Asian Development Bank loan to India on the grounds that some of the cash was intended for use in Arunachal Pradesh, a region China claims as its own. This was followed by a volley in the People's Daily, the Communist Party's mouthpiece, warning India against increasing its troop levels in Arunachal Pradesh (India's action was a delayed response to China's own troop deployments in the region). "India needs to consider whether or not it can afford the consequences of a potential confrontation with China," it tauntingly advised.

Since the 1950s, China has viewed India with disdain, as an odd patchwork of a nation with pretensions to greatness which must be kept in constant check. China's condescension was complemented by the generosity of India's dovish first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, who dismissed the very idea of Chinese expansionism as "naive." According to Nehru's most recent biographer, when Eisenhower offered India a permanent seat on the Security Council, Nehru turned it down, urging him to offer it to Beijing instead. But in November 1962, such illusions of Third-World solidarity lay shattered as Chinese soldiers marched into India, occupying a substantial portion of contested territory on the Tibetan plateau. China's occupation of Arunachal Pradesh seemed unstoppable, but Beijing issued a cease-fire and retreated as American jumbo jets, flown to aid India's assault, began landing in West Bengal.

Today, China has drawn a circle around India. Beginning in Pakistan (to which Beijing supplied nuclear knowhow) in the northwest, it runs through Nepal (to which it exported Maoism) and Burma (where it shields a dictatorship) in the east, ending in Sri Lanka in the south. This struggle for influence stretches beyond Asia: China and India are now engaged in an aggressive battle for resources in Africa. In its bid to play catch-up with China, India has often abandoned its democratic ideals by accommodating brutal regimes, particularly in Burma and Sudan.

But what distinguishes the two countries is the manner in which they respond to secessionist movements. China's preferred solution has been to engineer demographic shifts by repopulating restive regions with Han Chinese. India, in stark contrast, has responded to separatist movements by offering them greater autonomy. India, after all, is an unnatural nation, encompassing continental diversity within its frontiers, refusing to homogenize humans like milk, deriving its sovereignty by bypassing all the traditional determinants of nationhood -- language, culture, ethnicity, and religion, among countless other distinguishing attributes -- that have led people elsewhere to seek exclusivist homelands defined by such traits.

Nothing agitates India more than foreign attempts to undermine the pluralism it has spent six decades nurturing. By issuing separate visas to Kashmiri Indians, Beijing did precisely that.

Indian democracy vexes Beijing. If India can guarantee fundamental rights to its diverse citizens while managing a growth rate not far from China's, why, someone is bound to ask, can China not do the same? For many in the West, China's economic prosperity is a precursor to political freedom for its people. But this theory, as China scholar Minxin Pei has argued, ignores the important fact that an authoritarian state is less likely to loosen its hold on a wealthy country than it would be to forego the control of an impoverished one. This accounts for China's censorship at home and the promotion of secessionism abroad. But it also means that it is China, and not India, that is more fragile and insecure. The Dalai Lama is India's trump card.  All India has to do is play hardball.

 SUBJECTS: CHINA, INDIA, SOUTH ASIA
 

Kapil Komireddi is an Indian journalist.

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NEWSWORTHY

8:20 PM ET

October 2, 2009

China protects itself from another Indian invasion

The author is dishonest about the 1962 war between India and China.

India invaded China in 1962.

Neville Maxwell, the Times of London journalist in India at the time of war, wrote the best study of the event. Anyone who would like to read an independent evaluation of the Indian invasion should read his account:
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/oct/08max1.htm

The article summary:
"Indians will be shocked to discover that, when China crushed India in 1962, the fault lay at India, or more specifically, at Jawaharlal Nehru and his clique's doorsteps. It was a hopelessly ill-prepared Indian Army that provoked China on orders emanating from Delhi, and paid the price for its misadventure in men, money and national humiliation." - Rediff, main Indian web portal

Instead of wrongly portraying China as an aggressor and pining for war, jingoist Indians such as the author should reflect on the terrible mistake of Indian decision makers. They created an enduring China-Pakistan alliance. Now they want to deepen their mistake by basing their strategy on foolish fantasies from their wounded pride.

 

BRIJD

4:38 AM ET

October 4, 2009

Neville Maxwell's delusional spin on history

Neville Maxwell predicted in 1967 that India's democratic experiment had failed and that India was set for disintegration.
That JL Nehru greatly weakened the Indian military is true, but Nehru did not ask the Chinese to occupy Aksai Chin area of Jammu-Kashmir-Ladakh state of India. Nehru was a windbag, but deception, brutality, colonialism and genocide have been singularly Chinese communist party's characteristics, not India's.

 

ZOOMZOOM

9:04 AM ET

October 13, 2009

India always wanted frendly relations with China

Didn't you know that when Permanent Security Council seat was offered to India, Indian Prime minister, Nehru turned it down and instead offered that China should get it. India supported China's entry into the security council. There is no better example of India's intention for friendship towards China. China never felt comfortable with India. I presume they were left wondering, whats in it for the Indians? Instead what he got was Indo China war which definitely hastened Nehru' death. And now Indians are told that Nehru was responsible. There always are elaborate reasons that can be given to show that 'since they did this, we had to do this...'. Even today I wonder does China consider anybody its friend, instead i feel the thinking is, that the whole world is against them and they are on their own. There is no scope for friendship if that is the mindset.

 

NEWSWORTHY

8:38 PM ET

October 2, 2009

Indian growth severely lags

"If India can guarantee fundamental rights to its diverse citizens while managing a growth rate not far from China's"

China is growing more rapidly.

In 1991, the GDP per capita (nominal) of the two countries were equal.

# 155 China: $327.27 per capita
# 157 India: $307.97 per capita

Source:
http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/eco_gdp_percap-economy-gdp-per-capita&date=1991

From the most recent data, Chinese GDP per capita is $3,000 per capita and Indian per capita is $1,000.

 

BRIJD

4:46 AM ET

October 4, 2009

With far fewer resources, India does better management

Nationmaster website says China's per cap GPD was $2000 in 2006.
Yet you claim that it is $3000 in 2009.
Typical case of "Chinese statistics" - there are lies, damned lies, statistics and then "Chinese statistics"

 

NEWSWORTHY

7:10 AM ET

October 4, 2009

My statistics (2008) are accurate

"2006"

"most recent data"

IMF (2008)

China: 3,259
India: 1,017

World Bank (2008)

China: 2,912
India:1,068

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita

 

NEWSWORTHY

8:16 AM ET

October 4, 2009

China grows despite disadvantages of low resources

The western half of China is barely inhabitable. For example there are only 3 million people in Tibet. China does not have a usable land advantage.

China does not have enough water to meet needs. Over the next decades, China will spend 12 figure dollar sums to avert catastrophe.

China is heavily reliant on foreign oil and does not domestically produce enough coal.

China grows because of the energy of its people. For anyone interested in understanding the fast pace of change in China, I recommend reading, "China's Instant Cities", a feature article in National Geographic about the people of Zhejiang province, a hub for small goods manufacturing. The article took home the 2008 National Magazine Award for reporting, America's top prize. The article weaves a universe of characters--former farm peasants--who assume new roles in industrial China. From Boss to the 15 year old girl beginning her first job, they are all driven and produce relentless results.

Link:
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2007/06/instant-cities/hessler-text

 

BRIJD

9:51 AM ET

October 4, 2009

Chinese statistics strike again

Why is there such a large discrepancy between GDP figures for China by IMF and by World Bank?

Any why compare on nominal basis? Try the PPP basis.

With far fewer resources, India has done MUCH better.

 

BRIJD

10:02 AM ET

October 4, 2009

More Chinese obfuscation

China has far more oil and coal than India does.
China's occupation of Tibet and E. Turkestan (Xinjiang) gave it access to HUGE mineral deposits, which have fueled its industrialisation.
China occupies Tibet - the source of vast glaciers and the source of a large number of Indian and Chinese rivers systems.
Soviets built China's industrial base for free, and trained Chinese engineers.
USA opened its markets to China to isolate the Soviets.
Taiwanese and Japanese built industries for decades in China, which helped build up this communist nation's expertise in technology.
Japan's loans funded China's rise.
One important thing that the Chinese do better than Indians, for now, is "reverse engineering". That and colonialism, genocide, deception etc - are Chinese advantages over India.

 

NEWSWORTHY

8:53 PM ET

October 2, 2009

Questions for the author about comparative rights

"If India can guarantee fundamental rights to its diverse citizens"

Mr. Komireddi, can you vouch that the average Indian criminal will be treated better under police custody than the average Chinese offender?

How would you compare "2002" to the Xinjiang riots? In the 2002 Gujarat riots, the state was complicit in the Hindu rampage that slaughtered thousands of Muslims. In the Xinjiang riots, the Uighur minority of the province killed over 100 Han and Hui people provoking a retaliatory mob. However, paramilitary interceded and protected Uighurs from any systematic violence.

Peter Foster, the Daily Telegraph journalist in China and formerly the Tele's man in India, wrote a post praising the Chinese police's performance and pointedly puts down the Indian police in comparision. Indeed, the police in Gujarat just stood by as the long anti-Muslim pogrom unfolded.
Source: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/peterfoster/100002643/urumqi-criticism-and-credit-for-the-chinese-police/

I don't write this post to praise human rights in China. The situation is terrible. My point is that anybody who claims fundamental rights are protected in India is wrong. And, they so misapprehend reality probably because they are a raving nationalist.

 

MOHAN NAIR

11:22 PM ET

October 2, 2009

Newsworthy seems to be a

Newsworthy seems to be a commie chinese troll. Listen there is no use talking the truth or facts to zombies like you. Fundamental rights do you some thing like that in China?

We have a free press that can question and expose the misdeeds of the government. What about Tianmen what about all those people who disappeared?

 

SEN C

11:25 PM ET

October 2, 2009

Both Collusion in Ethnic Cleansing

The major cause for the recent humanitarian disaster in Sri Lanka is the rivalry between these regional powers. The current Sri Lankan administration, with its sophisticated and deceptive diplomacy used the rivalry to its sides to unleash a mass carnage on the tamil civilians.

With the poulation from the areas in the camps, the rivalries are dashing in for development projects such as Mannar oil basi exploration, Trincomalee power generation, Kankesanthurai harbour etc.

'Humanity is the word to be omitted for these emerging economies, both coincidently have a huge population. Division between rich and poor is still wide.
China and India, both voted against Sri Lankan war crimes investgations at the UNHRC 12tyh session.

 

SEN C

8:08 AM ET

October 3, 2009

The reason forthe failed

The reason forthe failed foreign policy in India is the content in the foreign policy makers. They are bunch of 'loyal to administration more than families' and corrupt. Elections are a farce there. They do not determine foreign policy.
'Poor will remain poor' democracy.

On the other hand, the anti-people republic is mentoring Sri Lanka on its Xinjiang template of dilution.

Population burst and maritime ambitions made these to participate in the Sri Lankan tamil issues. 'War on terror' paradigm, Rajiv Gandhi were bannered to hide their agenda.

Sri Lankans had a different agenda, very old one. Enjoys quoting 'Power shift from West to the East'.'
In the end, a vulnerable minority was made sacrificial lambs, still remains.

 

NKUMAR48

9:11 AM ET

October 5, 2009

India and China should work together diplomatically

India and China have to get into dialogue and to deal with border issues and other issues diplomatically. China's governance is mature and intelligent enough to understand what is means to fight with India. China should understand that it will going to loose in the long terms by following the suggestions from their good friend Pakistan, if they want to support their friend for their Kashmir issue. It is right that Kashmir problem should be resolved, but it requires more involvement of Indian government, then why China wants to enter the big fight. As China has done, should India also do for Hong Kong, XinJiang province and for other parts that are under Chinese government rule? China should restrain from playing evil game with India and should work together for developing the two great nations of Asia.

 

TINGMO ZEMA

9:19 AM ET

October 5, 2009

simply put.

the author has simply put the nature of the bilateral relationship between India and China.
i.e who holds the whip and who keeps on dodging and ducking.

India's strategy of putting aside political/territorial issues for economic cooperation has not proven to be a wise tactic. China is busy creating a stronger string of pearls.
mutual trust is the core element which is lacking.
India should put its foot firmly on what they believe are the components of national integrity.

being submissive and appeasing towards China has not resulted anything in its favour. (reminder 1962 war). it only backfires.

Didnt know that keeping Tsundue under house arrest was made possible by invoking a clause from the british raj days.
if only this level of dedication and balls are channelled towards dealing with China.

 

NEWSWORTHY

8:51 PM ET

October 6, 2009

Reminder: India Invaded China in 1962

Despite the evidence, despite no attempts here to even refute the conclusion of Maxwell, people commenting continue to repeat the fabrication that China is responsible for the war. It isn't. India invaded China and lost.

Continue Reading...
http://www.rediff.com/news/2002/oct/08max1.htm

 

SKUMAR7777

12:54 AM ET

October 7, 2009

Reminder: India Invaded China in 1962

Would really like to refute NEWSWORTHY's claim with links of some Chinese websites.

But wait! All the links I wanted to post have been removed and the authors have been shot.

 

NEWSWORTHY

2:02 AM ET

October 7, 2009

British sources: India Invaded China in 1962

If Chinese sources are unavailable then you can rely on independent British sources. Wait. They report the truth. India invaded China and lost.

 

SKUMAR7777

3:01 AM ET

October 7, 2009

British sources: India Invaded China in 1962

Time to refer back to your sources.

On whether it was a war at all - Less than 5% of the armed forces of both countries involved with China using overwhelmingly more, hardly a war.
On whether India invaded China - we can debate till the end of time citing different sources.
On whether India "lost" - Clear agreement that the conflict ended when the Zhou Enlai declared an unilateral ceasefire and the Chinese withdrew from several areas. Not quite like your Pakistani friends who had to suffer the ignominy of 90,000 prisoners and sign on the dotted line. That was a loss! However you could claim that Indian strategic interests were not met like the China-Vietnam "war" where Chinese failed in its objectives.

 

JOHN2010

11:16 AM ET

October 7, 2009

1962 was India's fault

I think this article is deceptive because it assigns blame for the 1962 war to China, when most or all third party histories rightly point out it was the aggressive Indian policies at that time that caused the Chinese to finally react and humiliate the Indian military. And no, China did not VOLUNTARILY withdraw after defeating the Indian forces because of US jumbo jets; China has a recent history of "teaching lessons" to such countries as India and Vietnam, where they invade quickly, show that they can pretty much do what they want, then voluntarily withraw (unlike the US, which has to bleed for awhile before admitting defeat in Vietnam, Iraq, and now Afghanistan). I didn't see any US jumbo jets going to Vietnam's aid in 1979 and 1984 to cause the voiluntary Chinese withdrawal there, did you?

I'll also note one thing. China has "made peace" with all its surrounding neighbors, EXCEPT India, while India is at odds with most of its neighbors. Tells you something about who's more "belligerent", eh?

 

ZOOMZOOM

10:55 AM ET

October 13, 2009

Its always India's fault, isn't it ?

Chinese must not be humans as they never are at fault.

Check this article in BBC where it clearly mentions that Chinese forces seized part of India's north-eastern border territory.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3077778.stm

And check this article in BBC archives:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/31/newsid_2788000/2788343.stm

I doubt if China makes peace unless the other is superiorly placed ?? Else it is 'grab it all' as much as it can...

 

JOHN2010

11:30 AM ET

October 7, 2009

Economy of India vs China

To the people here debating the relative economic strengths of China and India, it's pretty obvious to any third party that India is significantly poorer and its people far more miserable than in China. Here are some statistics that paint a bleak picture of the country.

- 47 percent of Indian children under the age of five are either malnourished or stunted.

- The adult literacy rate is 61 percent (behind Rwanda and barely ahead of Sudan). Even this is probably overstated, as people are deemed literate who can do little more than sign their name.

- Only 10 percent of the entire Indian labor force works in the formal economy; of these fewer than half are in the private sector.

- The enrollment of six-to-15-year-olds in school has actually declined in the last year. About 40 million children who are supposed to be in school are not.

- About a fifth of the population is chronically hungry; about half of the world's hungry live in India.

- More than a quarter of the India population lives on less than a dollar a day.

- India has more people with HIV than any other country.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/02/08/news/international/pluggedin_murphy_india.fortune/index.htm

 

JOHN2010

11:49 AM ET

October 7, 2009

British reporter shocked at Indian Poverty and Mismanagement

And take a look at what this foreigner had to say about visiting India after staying in China...again, India lags China in so many ways it's not funny.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/5181024.stm

Some quotes:

The hotel was expensive and bad. In my room I searched for a high speed internet connection, a standard feature in any hotel in China. There was not one. Then with the night-time temperature still well above 30C (86F) the power went out. I lay for hours soaked in sweat trying, and failing, to get back to sleep and wishing I was back in Beijing where the lights never go out.

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My taxi struggled along the Jaipur road towards the airport. The two-lane road was clogged by an endless convoy of lorries. Finally I arrived at Indira Gandhi International airport. Despite the hour it was teeming with people. The queues snaked around the airport and back to where they had started. Foreign tourists stared in bewilderment. Locals with the resigned look of those used to waiting. I could not help feeling a sense of relief at being back in a country where things work

"Is it always like this?" I asked a man in the queue ahead of me. "Pretty much," he sighed.

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Later that day as I drove home from Beijing airport along the smooth six-lane highway I could not help feeling a sense of relief at being back in a country where things work. And it was not just the airports and roads.

Driving through a village on the edge of Beijing I was struck by how well everyone was dressed.

In Delhi, I had been shocked to see thousands of people sleeping rough on the streets every night, nothing but the few rags they slept in to call their own. Even deep in China's countryside that is not something you will see.

 

SKUMAR7777

2:55 AM ET

October 8, 2009

1962 was India's fault

"And no, China did not VOLUNTARILY withdraw after defeating the Indian forces because of US jumbo jets"

Can you hear me laughing?? The Chinese withdrew since they wanted to do a favour and did not want to humiliate India any more?? Or did the Chinese fear "loss of face" if they pursued further when the Indian army was starting to get its act together. Can you please refer your sources for the recent skirmishes in the past two decades.

"China has a recent history of "teaching lessons" to such countries as India and Vietnam"
The Dalai Lama is still a guest in India, right? We have not learnt our lessons well. The student is ready, is the teacher ready?

As for the remaining two posts, all I can say is the China is the fairest of them all. May you (and the remaining 1.3 billion of you) prosper and live in peace.