To Bow or Not to Bow?

A history of American prostration.

BY JOSHUA KEATING | NOVEMBER 23, 2009

 

Barack Obama is taking heat from critics for this image of him bowing to Emperor Akihito in Japan last week. The U.S. president does seem to have overdone it a little bit by, in the words of one Japan scholar, “trying to impress with Karate Kid-level knowledge of Japanese customs.” But it’s not the first awkward encounter between a president and royalty.

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Joshua Keating is deputy Web editor at Foreign Policy.

AHSON HASAN

11:41 PM ET

November 24, 2009

To Bow or Not to Bow? Sure, why not?!

Bowing is a mark of respect, an ultimate diplomatic gesture that conveys regard and sincerity of purpose. It is an act of dignity that can create relationships, bridge gaps and open up new opportunities that auger well for the future of nations and their people. It sends across positive signals and shows open-mindedness that can help further a cause in a convincing manner.

President Obama understands international relations better than anyone else. He is well-cognizant of the fact that the US needs friends and allies and has to mend fences in these rather trying times. Coupled with his powerful grip over language and content of his speeches, the President is proving himself to be a role model for people all over the world and winning the hearts and minds of millions. His modesty and humbleness will be the deciding factor in the effort to re-establish the US image abroad.

 

FMANUELE

3:50 PM ET

November 25, 2009

Give the man a break!

You are correct - deference does not mean obedience! Obama diplomacy seeks to undo the last president's faux pas approach to making friends abroad and is intelligently and carefully rebuilding respect for America and mutual trust. Obama has class and class is respected and appreciated by those at the top. Misstatements were the norm for GW and I'll bet left many heads of state scratching their heads wondering why Americans voted him in - twice much less once. The most important thing following all the niceties will be negotiations and arm bending. Can Obama be an effective diplomat and convince our trading partners fair trade goes both ways? We'll see.

 

INDEPENDANCEDAY

12:38 AM ET

November 25, 2009

Respect or weakness

Bowing is not really showing respect to the foreign "dignitaries" it is showing them how weak our president is ( and yes, I did not capitalize pres. for a reason, capitalizing would have meant that I respected him and I never will) I will never accept, nor will many other Americans accept that he is so willing to please the leaders of other countries, especially those who wish to "kill America" because we have many faiths and not just one like they do (in which they torture and beat their wives, kill their families and everyone looks the other way, and perform hideous acts of mutilation on their daughters all in the name of "religion".) This country was born on God and religion and our own destruction started when we allowed those who have no God to take away our right to prayer in schools, try to take away "In God We Trust", remove the Ten Commandments from public buildings, and slowly take away our rights and freedoms in the meantime.
If you were to ask me, I think we have another "big brother" on our hands. Think about this, Bush may have used the Patriot Act, and who knows if it was done legally, since the government is accountable only to itself because everyone is afraid to challenge them. However, not once do I remember hearing Bush ask Americans to report anyone that speaks negatively about the US government to the White House like Obama did. Where do you think he is taking this country? I am quite sure that it is not in a good direction and I am sure that we will probably see more wars in our own country between our own citizens before this is all over with. God help us all if he proves to us that he is not what he portrayed himself to be, because by then it will be too late to get him out of office.
Of course, this is all my opinion and thank GOD that I live in a country where our constitution gives me the right to free speech, free assembly, right to bear arms, and right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 

THE PROFESSOR

12:54 PM ET

November 25, 2009

Be honest, if the truth be

Be honest, if the truth be told America was founded upon thievery, genocide, slavery. Certainly its has the potential to be a great country, but lets not forget its flaws because in doing so the opportunity to move forward is stymied. America will truly be great when the constitution is applied to all, not just those of certain demographics. -peace

 

TEOC2

2:06 PM ET

November 25, 2009

disrespecting the office is an offense to the nation

as you are blinded by those teabags hanging down from your forehead it is a foregone conclusion that you have no respect for our Constitution (by your logic I guess that is why you don't capitalize it either) or our President so we should not be surprised that you would have no respect for foreign allies and their leaders.

Lets face it you have no understanding of diplomacy other than the "gunboat" kind so spare us your pretension of being thankful for the protections of our Constitution and the office of President established by that document which is by definition respecting our country, the United States of America.

What country do you live? Hippocrostan?

 

VIA

8:33 PM ET

December 5, 2009

The Stupid Lobby

is alive and well-represented in FP comments.

However ugly the world is, imagine the extent of the clustermuck we'd have if tact and fact-free "Palintologists" ranting to the world on our behalf.

 

ALICIA

4:17 AM ET

December 7, 2009

Matter Of Culture

Bowing is the ultimate way of showing respect and is so thoroughly ingrained in many cultures that ignoring it would show more stupidity and "weakness" than it would strength and power. Was President Obama's bow to the Emperor of Japan more formal than necessary? Probably. Does Japan want to "kill" America for having more than one religion? Absolutely not. In my opinion we should show respect to the symbolic leader of a country that we've dropped an atomic bomb or two on.

On the aspect of religion you are completely mistaken in many instances. Most Asian countries have a least 2 or 3 main religions, including but not limited to Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, and Hinduism. I'm assuming that your rant about people "beating their wives" and other heinous acts is based on Islam. Did you know that Islam is nearly identical to Christianity in many aspects, especially moral ones? Like ANY religion there are the overzealous who give a bad name to the entire religion. Or the hypocritical who self-righteously claim to follow a religion based on love and forgiveness and then condemn others for their choices. This country was not "born on God". It was born on the right to choose your own God - or lack of one. Which is what the Constitution guarantees: freedom. And Obama's bow is an expression of free speech just as much as saying the words "in God we trust".

 

HBOBRIEN

8:12 PM ET

December 8, 2009

Is this a geo-quiz?

"I live in a country where our constitution gives me the right to free speech, free assembly, right to bear arms, and right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Huh. Must not be the United States of America, then. Because in the US, the pursuit of happiness is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence, and not once in the Constitution. Also, Americans spell Independence, "Independence."

You kooky, disrespectful, Blame America First foreigners -- what will you think of next?

 

THE_RECALCITRANT

5:06 AM ET

December 10, 2009

You seem confused. President

You seem confused. President Obama is not "so willing to please the leaders of other countries" - he is meeting these men and women for the first time, and as befits a well-educated leader of the free world, he is expressing respect and a willingness for open communication. You may be excused for not recognizing the social and diplomatic importance of such a simple manifestation of good manners and protocol - during the bush years, such things were trashed in favor of "cowboy diplomacy". Perhaps the anti-intellectual approach is more your style, in which case, President Obama is definitely not for you. But stick around - Palin wants a shot at the job in 2012, and she's your gal.

 

MIKULASRING

4:35 AM ET

December 12, 2009

I would simply say, To bow

I would simply say, To bow folks as I think it is the polite thing to do.
Mike the Rrod fix dude.

 

SCOTTGOOSE

6:25 PM ET

December 4, 2009

The 7th picture was hilarious

What a quality anecdotal photo to wrap up of this montage of politically necessitated public acts of weakness by America's finest. I laughed out loud. I wonder if there are any scholar studies that attempt to quantify the strategic benefit of public acts of kindness (read: weakness) to despots and monarchs alike? Cost-benefit wise, if something as trivial as a bow actually has a significant impact on building a rapport with a foreign leader, than so be it. If these actions shape the inter-personal dynamic between the leaders constructively, than these (hopefully) empty-gestures are somewhat ingenious. I would believe the bow was a naive attempt at good faith with zero baggage, but the fact that he keeps doing it is pretty inexcusable. As long as he doesn't start bowing to the Mullahs, ill write this off as inconsequential, especially compared to the litany of objectively valid complaints I have with his policy.

 

VIA

8:31 PM ET

December 5, 2009

The Stupid Lobby

is alive and well-represented in FP comments.

However ugly the world is, imagine the extent of the clustermuck we'd have if tact and fact-free "Palintologists" ranting to the world on our behalf.

 

SGRAJARAM@GMAIL.COM

1:19 AM ET

December 8, 2009

Obama doesnt have to bow so low!

Though I dont have much regard for Bush, I think he displayed more authority in the pictures above. With the Saudi KIng he was only bowing to be garlanded and the picture is completly out of context

 

SGRAJARAM@GMAIL.COM

1:19 AM ET

December 8, 2009

Obama doesnt have to bow so low!

Though I dont have much regard for Bush, I think he displayed more authority in the pictures above. With the Saudi KIng he was only bowing to be garlanded and the picture is completly out of context

 

GREG PRINGLE

7:41 PM ET

December 10, 2009

He is bowing too low

Obama's problem is that he is trying to respect Japanese culture without understanding it. Newcomers to Japan think that you have to bow low to all and sundry. This is not the case. Any Japan Hand could tell you that there are gradations in the depth of the bow depending on the status of the participants. For instance, the kimono'ed Mama-san of a traditional establishment will bow extremely low to her valued customers, but the customers are certainly not obliged to return the compliment -- a shallow bow will do.

As the Head of State of a major nation, I doubt that Obama had to bow so low for the Emperor of Japan. They are at least of equal status, so Obama didn't owe the Emperor a bow any deeper than the one the Emperor is giving him. As a result of his exaggerated bow, Obama looks more like a newbie to Japan than the President of the United States. Obama should have been better briefed by his diplomatic staff.

 

SQUEEDLE

4:40 PM ET

December 21, 2009

I second this comment. Bows

I second this comment. Bows don't mean the exact same thing in all cultures anyway, and I was a bit unsettled by such a low bow to the Japanese Emperor. Yes, he should have been better debriefed by his staff, and should have bowed exactly the same depth as the Emperor.

Also, Michelle Obama did not touch the Queen of England before the Queen touched her. It was widely reported that they got on very well, and my understanding is that it was deemed appropriate behavior on Ms. Obama's part.

As for the GWB and the Saudi King, it's well known that those two families have had friendly relations for a good while, and shows of affection like this are common between men who are friends in Arab culture.

One can take all sorts of pictures without context and read things into them that are way off the mark, for actions that were appropriate, entirely understandable, or totally innocuous.

 

BOREDWELL

4:06 PM ET

December 12, 2009

Blimp

Generally when bowing in close proximity, as necessitated when combining bowing and shaking hands, people turn slightly to one side (usually the left) to avoid bumping heads. Also, bows that deep usually require the other to reciprocate, acknowledging the bow with another bow. The president, taller than his counterpart, more than likely assessed the logistics and reconnoitered with this rendition.The emperor, who is smiling broadly, is, too, in fact guilty of not maintaining Japanese style etiquette. His un-Japanese smile is more typical of a hale and hardy American! The correct response, though he is the emperor, should have been to remain inscrutably tight-lipped.

 

BLUE13326

2:48 PM ET

December 20, 2009

Wow. Somebody pays you to do

Wow. Somebody pays you to do this...