Israel Punks Itself

With Benjamin Netanyahu's ridiculous new global PR campaign, Israel just tells itself lies.

BY DMITRY REIDER | MARCH 10, 2010

If you use Facebook or Twitter in Canada, you probably caught this viral advertisement, subtly titled "Size Doesn't Matter," last month.

Girl [peering down the camera's frame]: Uhhh...

Boy: What?

Girl: Don't be mad. But it's small.

Boy: It's small?!

Girl: I just ... I don't know if I can go there.

Boy: I consider this a spot of worship. It may be small, but it's brought the driest places to life. Baby, this is paradise!

The camera then pans out to show the young couple, peering at a map of Israel and tourist guidebooks sitting in the boy's lap.

Girl: OK. But, if I go down there for you, you have to promise you'll go down south for me next winter.

The video, sponsored by the Canadian Federation of Jewish Students and the Canadian Council for Israel and Jewish Advocacy (CIJA), was met with ridicule -- both in Israel and abroad. Bloggers went wild, and the bemused Israeli Foreign Ministry and CIJA were reduced to pointing fingers at each other, trying to shift the blame. (Though it is unclear whether the Israeli government funded this ad, overseas advocacy organizations generally take their cues from the homeland.)

The past year has brought many public-diplomacy own-goals for Israel -- refusing to cooperate with a U.N. commission, deliberately humiliating the ambassador of a major ally, and snubbing a U.S. congressional delegation, for instance. But rather than addressing the problems underlying Israel's lack of popularity abroad -- the stagnated conflict with the Palestinians, and especially the brutal war waged on Gaza last winter -- the government has gone for diversion, with a series of flashy (and, in the case above, idiotic) global ad campaigns.

Such ads have a lot more to say about Israel's insecurities -- e.g., its small size -- than the world's concerns. Another advertisement shows a camel ambling across a sandy vista, with a narrator deadpanning in English, "The camel is a typical Israeli animal, used by the Israelis to travel from place to place in the desert where they live." Don't quite get the joke? It sends up Israelis' concern that foreigners perceive them to be backward and Oriental.

There's hardly an argument that the ads are falling flat with international audiences. It increasingly seems Israel is trying to persuade not foreigners, but itself. In March 2009, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu created a ministry of public diplomacy (in Hebrew, hasbara). Last week, it launched a website called "Masbirim," or "Explainers," offering Israelis talking points to chat up foreigners when traveling overseas. (The information on the website is also available in booklet form.)

The Masbirim project does not just offer up harmless trivia about Israeli agriculture and inventions -- for instance, "Israel invented the solar water-heater" and, crucially, "An Israeli electric hair remover makes women happy the world over." It also provides hard-line political arguments. We're told the West Bank (described as "Judea and Samaria") settlements are "restored" ancient Jewish villages, not impositions on Palestinian villages or lands. The conflict is not about territorial disputes, but about Israel's very existence as a state, it says. And the Golan is not only a strategic stronghold for Israel, but a place stuffed with Jewish heritage sites. The materials, unsurprisingly, do not mention the illegality of annexing occupied territory.

The campaign then marches into right-wing wilderness roamed only by the likes of the long-debunked 1984 book From Time Immemorial. It advises Israelis to tell new foreign friends that "there has never been a state called Palestine" and that most Palestinians are "immigrants from other Arab states" -- many of whom were drawn to the economic prosperity created by Zionist Jewish immigration. Just in case the foreign folks had heard many Israelis' central argument for a two-state solution -- that discrepancies between Jewish and Palestinian birthrates mean Jews will soon be outnumbered in the territories currently under Israeli control -- the Masbirim project's materials explain that the Palestinian birthrate has actually dropped and the Jewish one is "underestimated."

 

Dmitry Reider is an Israeli journalist whose work has appeared in the Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, and the Guardian. He co-authors the foreign-affairs blog Kav Hutz and also blogs in English here.

ISRAELDEFENDER

5:17 AM ET

March 11, 2010

Another anti-Israel article on FP - (ho hum)

"Rather than changing the policies that are rapidly turning it into an international pariah..."

Israel is one of the most unpopular countries in the world. So clearly, Israel must be one of the most brutal and inhumane countries in the world, right? Wrong.

Saudi Arabia executes homosexuals and brutally represses its women, not even allowing them out of the house without permission. Do I even need to bother comparing Israel's behavior to North Korea or Iran? Sudan? China?

The Pew Research Center recently found that 90 percent of the Middle East views Jews (Jews, not Israelis!) unfavorably:

"In the predominantly Muslim nations surveyed, views of Jews were overwhelmingly unfavorable. Nearly all in Jordan (97 percent), the Palestinian territories (97%) and Egypt (95%) held an unfavorable view. Similarly, 98% of Lebanese expressed an unfavorable opinion of Jews, including 98% among both Sunni and Shi’ite Muslims, as well as 97% of Lebanese Christians."

Hmmmm...it's almost as if Muslim dictators around the world (not just in the ME) are brainwashing their subjects to hate Jews, in order to divert attention from their own brutal regimes. They have been joined by deluded liberals like Reider. He singles out Israel repeatedly, but does not explain why the Palestinians remain popular, despite having voted Hamas into power. Hamas is of course a fundamentalist terror org. whose official charter calls for the murder of Jews (again, Jews, not Israelis) and they openly state they will never allow infidels (aka Jews) to keep even a small portion of land in the ME.

I guess Reider is too worried about Israel to write about these small inconveniences. When will FP hire a single writer who isn't anti-Israel?

 

R.HOWE

3:51 PM ET

March 11, 2010

DISAGREE

I'd love to discuss all this with you, but you'd just accuse me of anti-Semitism. Ho hum.

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

4:44 PM ET

March 11, 2010

R. Howe

R.Howe pulls the common tactic of screaming out, "All criticism of Israel is deemed anti-Semitic!" I feel so bad for you...

 

SALAM

4:45 PM ET

March 11, 2010

The Fox's Lamb Mask....

Whenever there is a just criticism of Israel, the label of 'anti-Israel' or 'anti-Semitism' is foolishly brandished. To whoever sees Israel as an eden of human rights and justice, I'd say please, you can try to promote this innocent image in a world of idiots, but the world today is increasingly aware of the Myths Israel and Zionists, including US NeoCons, have been trying to inculcate in the world's poplation's minds.

Israel is a colony on Palestinian lands, however the notion may seem 'gross' to Zionists and supporters of Israel. We cannot change history and say, as Zion's elders said to legitimize the creation of Israel, that the land was an empty land, "a land without a people for a people without a land". To me, that's utter and sheer ignorance. Palestinians, Christians and Muslims, are more Semitic than Israel's Rosenbergs and blond Eastern European Jews. Please revise neutral history!

I have been to the Jewish-Canadian website and couldn't help laughing at Israel's despondancy. Israel realizes now that the world (too late maybe!) has recently started to see it as it has always been: a symbol of colonization, barbarity and racism. Who has been violating human rights constantly? Who has been massacring civilians and children and sending showers of bombs on Palestinians' houses? It's not Iran, Saudia or Afghanistan. It's the unlawful State of Israel, a state that's encroaching on a daily basis on Palestinians' crops and lands! Excuse me Israel worshipers, but I have to say what I think! This ad is stupid, and so is the Israeli aforementioned website, for it tries to polish up Israel's image by creating 'facts' that do not exist at all: even non-White Jews are mis-treated inside Israel, and the misery doubles for poor Palestinians who hold an Israeli citizenship, let alone Palestinians outside the never-satisfactory (for Israel) borders.

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

5:06 PM ET

March 11, 2010

Salaam

Yes, and the Palestinians never killed a single innocent person. They never blew up buses filled with school children. They never hijacked planes (pre Al-Qaida). They never launched mortars and rockets against civilians. They are innocent angels, and the Israeli Jews are infidels and devils who all true believers must kill for wanting a tiny strip of land the size of New Jersey in the midst of a sea of Muslims...

 

WHODRSWNS

6:34 PM ET

March 11, 2010

israeldefender

The problem with israel and jews is the fact that if you ask a jew whether or not there loyalties lie with there (birth country) or with israel they will choose israel , but they allways play the antisemite card. I remember having a argument with an american born jew about why he was going to israel to join the IDA instead of the u.s armed forces when we went to iraq, after all , there were alot of American citizens of German heritage that answered Hitlers call and moved to the fatherland and joined the german army.
How do you feel about that israel defender? Also , Did you ever wonder or stop to ask yourselves why everyone hates you? Maybe because you don't care about anyone else besides other jews ( regardless of where they were born). How much aid has Israel sent to Haiti? or Chili? How much money do you suck from the American taxpayer so you can torment the palestineans that you have walled up in a modern day Warsaw ghetto? If being an anti semite means not liking someone who is a greedy narcisist who doesn;t have any compassion for someone who is not a jew then sign me up , call me an anti semite. I'll wear that badge with honor. Remember , Hitler wouldn't have had a leg to stand on ,and wouldn't have been able to recruit too many followers if after ww1 the jews(the only ones with any money) would have helped get germany and there starving millions back on there feet instead of scoffing at them . If you get thrown out of one bar then maybe you can blame the bouncer, but if you get thrown out of every bar since the dawn of time then maybe the problem lies with you. You even have a holiday celebrating God coming down and killing everyone but yourselves, it's called passover (how arrogant can you get.

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

12:16 AM ET

March 12, 2010

WHODRSWNS

"The problem with israel and jews is the fact that if you ask a jew whether or not there loyalties lie with there (birth country) or with israel they will choose israel ,"

Really? That is what every single Jew will do? Interesting, considering that of these "super-loyal" Jews living in America, 50 percent of them are currently marrying non-Jews, and 80 percent of them have never never visited Israel a single time. Your massive stereotyping of what "all Jews" do and your gross generalizations regarding everyone hating Jews for all time are perfect examples of the "quality" of the arguments of anti-Semites and Israel haters. Thank you very much for that illustration into an inferior mind. I'm sure Reider enjoyed your comment, though. It very much fits into FP, a periodical that constantly scrutinizes Jews and Israel in a negative fashion.

 

INDIAN

12:44 AM ET

March 12, 2010

WE STAND BY YOU

i being a hindu from india and completely neutral on this agenda think one thing ...... what israel is doing is the right thing, in india we have the same problems of ISLAMIC fundamentalism and over controlling of the system by them, but unluckily our politicians are not as strong as Israel's to take action. for eg,
1. jihad wasnt banned by the major muslim groups till november 08 blasts happened
2. saudi arabia has been indirectly funding the radical muslim groups in india and pakistan for decades now to wage a war against the so called infidel HINDUS
3. kashmir which has been historically been an INDIAN state where the government of india holds regular elections has been called a disputed territory by pakistan along with the sympathies of OIC (organisation of islamic countries)
4. islam world over shows their image as a minority religion, creating a false state of belief among others that they have always been the victims and that JEWS AND HINDUS are always out there to get them , but they forget they have killed more hindus during the moghul rule than anyone ....and nowadays wow to kill JEWS for no reason.

for all this and a million more reasons , I STAND BY ISRAEL FOR WHATEVER ACTIONS THEY MAY TAKE , because it is after all ISRAEL is the only land in this world that JEWS can call their own and these rocket throwing maniacs want to take it over when they are just immigrants supported by arab crooks. they have the entire arab world to go to then why bother about a land the size of new jersey. IF MUSLIMS REALLY WANT TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE A PEACE LOVING RELIGION THEN THEY SHOULD STOP BELIEVING THAT ALL NON BELIEVERS SHOULD BE KILLED AND LET THE OTHERS FOLLOW WHAT THEY WANT !!

 

JOANOFARCH

1:11 AM ET

March 14, 2010

I am not anti Isreal

First of all how did the state of Israel become a state. And who is helping the state of Israel be a supper power in the middle east?. I say stop supporting Israel and lets see how they stand on their own.
I believe in peace not war and human rights for all is important to me.
The Palestinian people have been displaced and now they are losing the rest of their country.
This is not right and I dont think the USA should support the take over mentality.
We need to cut the apron strings and let the chips fall where they may!!
We are hated in the middle east and I do believe this started in 1946.

 

AVID READER

10:39 AM ET

March 14, 2010

Answer for my dear Indian

I am your neighbor on your Eastern border. Your comments about Kashmir are incorrect. Kashmir's fate is to be determined between India and Pakistan according to UN resolutions which have asked for a plebiscite. Nowhere does it say that holding internal, Indian elections, is the solution. It is India which is not ready to offer the people of Kashmir their right of self-determination as envisaged by the UN as she very well knows the result is not going to be in her favor.
If people of Kashmir were so satisfied with the Indian govt. then how come there have been a constant upheaval in Kashmir since so many years. Ask any Kashmiri on the street and he or she will clearly be against being part of India.
As far as your saying that Muslims believe that all non-believers should be killed that is absolutely absurd thinking on your part. Islam has clearly told that killing of human beings is forbidden and the punishment is to burn in hell. Now it is true that some crazy guys out there are doing things in the name of this religion but then rest assured that they are killing more Muslims than non-Muslims because by now the world is also aware of this fact as there are suicide bombings happening in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan on regular basis.
All religions have fringe groups which distort that religion's teaching to assimilate it with their myopic world view and Islam is no exception. Also remember Gandhi was also killed by a Hindu fundamentalist.
I am an optimist and I see a future where both India and Pakistan can live peacefully. I hope the same for Israel and Palestine. After all England and France had been at war with each other for about 100 years but look at them now. It is the peace which has paid them rich dividends.

 

MJ

5:02 PM ET

March 14, 2010

To The Hindu "We Stand by You"

The Hindu supporter of Israel (from India) is only speaking for the right-wing Hindutva fundamentalists who are not only against the Muslim, Christian, 'low-caste' minorities but also have over the last one century sought to define themselves as belonging to the Aryan race. Their main "thinkers" have praised Hitler in their speeches and writings, their salute is still the Nazi "hail" and their main symbol is 'Swastika.' I wonder if this is the kind of support Jewish people need.

These hindu right-wingers have massacred thousands of muslims and attacked christians as well. Since their appeal only is limited to the upper caste Hindus they are are raising the bogey of Islamic terrorism to consolidate their hold over power by scapegoating muslims, who constitute 15 percent of the Indian population. In fact India has the second largest muslim population in the world (160 Million, larger than the entire Arab world). But Hindutva ideologues are trying to present India as a Hindu country, which reasonably speaking they can't have even after another 200 million were separated into Pakistan and Bangladesh. In India the historically oppressed "lower caste" and "untouchables" are waging a war against their upper caste Hindu oppressors. Very soon, these subalterns along with minorities (who are actually majorities) and tribal people (who have started a revolt in the forests against caste Hindus) will overwhelm the Indian state and effectively take it over. In Kashmir, the dynamics of national liberation struggle have changed. Kashmiris are no longer dependent on armed struggle. It has matured into a non-violent movement, and has in the last three rattled the Indian control. Iindia's 1 million strong army based in Kashmir is unable to change or stop the Kashmiri movement for independence. The anti-Muslim polemic by some caste Hindu Indians is just an expression of frustration at their losing control over power in India. So Israelis should know that these caste Hindus are insincere when they talk about support to Israel. Seriously they are going down. (But I know, to Israel it doesn't matter much, as long as retiring Israeli soldiers can go to hill stations in India and smoke pot!)

Indian government knows all this. They might give lip service to Israel, but they are actually seeking membership in Organization of Islamic Countries. Isn't this what Indian PM said in Saudi Arabia recently. At the same time, India's concern is not the same as Israel's. India cannot afford to ignore relationship with the Muslim countries, for Israel's sake. That is impossible, and it may temporarily not support Iran's nuclear ambitions, but in long term India needs Iran so badly for its oil, gas and strategic depth.

In the long run, Israel needs to stop its roguish behaviour toward Palestinians etc, and learn to live in peace with its neighbors. Otherwise Israelis will always live from their suitcases.

 

JAMMER6463

8:16 PM ET

March 14, 2010

@Salam

@SALAM

You do realize that Israel did not start the wars in 48, 56 or 67 don’t you?

Before Israel existed there never were Palestinians. This is a name that was invented to describe the Arabs who lived in the area taken by the Israelis after they were attacked by the Arab nations in numerous wars. The Israelis won the wars and thus the land.

Do you know that the land that is now called the West Bank was part of Jordan prior to 67? That Israel took this land after defeating a combined Arab force that outnumbered the Jews 10 to 1. Israel never started any of these wars they just won them.

The people that you defend; the Palestinians, were complicit in trying to destroy Israel many times. The Jews must defend themselves.

In the first war in 48 the Arabs in the area of Israel were told by the Arab powers (Syria, Egypt, Jordan, and Iraq) to leave those areas for their own safety. They were told that the Arab armies would push the Jews into the sea and destroy the nascent Jewish state. They were told that when it was over they could have the Jewish lands and possessions. Well they failed to destroy the Israelis and the Jews kept the lands of the Arabs that had left when the war started. They kept them because they survived and won against all odds.

You must quit with this revisionist history that your people keep perpetrating on the world. The Jews were guaranteed a homeland after the fall of the Ottoman Empire in WWI. They were guaranteed the area of their ancient homeland in the Belfour declaration when the Ottoman Empire was split up after its demise in 1918. The Jews didn’t just come and take land from the Arabs. They were guaranteed this land way before the Holocaust took place. It was then the natural progression of things that the British setup the Jewish homeland after the German atrocities. Then the Arabs tried to perpetrate their own atrocities on the Israeli state. The Israelis won’t allow this to happen again. Never again is their belief and I am standing with them.

It is true that the despotic governments of the Arab nations teach hatred of the Jewish state. They do this to deflect criticism from their own horrible human rights records and the way they keep their people poor and illiterate (with the exception of memorizing the Koran). Let them kill the Jews so they don’t rise against their governments. That is the mantra of the Arabs and the Muslims as a whole.

The Israelis fight back against the terrorism of the Palestinians. The terrorism you speak of from the Jewish state is retaliation for the atrocities that have been hurled at them from the Arabs in the West Bank and Gaza.

Your people are great at revising history. The Crusades you point out as barbarous and they were. You never discuss the fact that Islam was spread by the sword and that the Levant and most of the Middle East including Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon was Christian land. Then, the Muslim armies of Muhammad came. They struck down the local religions and forced the people in those areas to become Muslims. These armies invaded North Africa (Christian at the time), Sicily and Spain where they were finally stopped by Charles Martel and Charlemagne’s armies.

You see Islam drew first blood long before the Christian Crusades. Islam invaded the Jewish lands which were part of the Byzantine (Christian) Empire. The Jews have their land back that was stolen from them by the murderous armies of Islam in the 700’s. Ah but only the Crusaders caused the rift between Islam and the West. Look at your true history and you will see a religion spread by violence to the Jews and Christians who inhabited most of the Middle East and what became the Levant.

Know your history before spewing lies, about Israel and West

 

INDIAN

12:58 AM ET

March 16, 2010

reply to MJ

1. The fact that you mention that upper caste hindus have been denying the rights of lower caste hindus is pure humbuk because they are the ones who have ensured quotas and reservations for the lower castes in the educational system , public companies , as well as parliament.

2. the swastika has been a sign of hindus for thousands of years whereas the hitler deal was just 50 years ago, and also the NAZI sign is not the swastika its the opposite. please ibserve if you havent observed it carefully.

3. YES WE HINDUS DO WANT A HINDU STATE AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN THAT BECAUSE WHEN MUSLIM COUNTRIES LIKE SAUDI HAVE THE RIGHT TO ESTABLISH ONLY MUSLIM ENTITIES THAN A 80% HINDU STATE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT FOR ITS OWN..... even if the muslims contribute 15% of the population they create the most havoc in india , with india born muslim fundamentalists like IM. the muslims in india should self analyse themselves before blaming the hindus or their caste system. the muslims have their own law in india (nowhere in the world there are such provisions for the minority as in india), whereby they can marry upto 4 wives among other totally illogical things. if muslims want to be truly part of india they should follow one law the INDIAN LAW rather than press for things favorable only to them. MUSLIM WOMEN ARE THE WORSTED TREATED out of any religion on the planet , they haev the least rate of women literacy among other religions, they are the most incapable of any family planning ideas because of no say in their households, muslims in india have the lower per capita income than the average for india ....these and many other signs show that muslims have to self correct themselves rather than blame the majority for all their troubles

4. if they say that upper castes hindus kill muslims than they should look at their own history in this region where the mughal rulers cut off the hands of hindu artisans after they built the taj mahal , where the mughal rulers had a rule where all hindus to in order to remain hindus would have to pay taxes or else convert to islam !! ..... muslims have been the most brutal of all religions in the world and they are continuing to do so where all religions have come to accept modernity only islam goes back to its medieval thinking beliefs.

5. COMING TO THE POINT OF THIS TOPIC ..... ISRAEL IS LIKE INDIA EMBEDDED IN THE MIDDLE OF FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAMICS TRYING TO OVERTAKE THEIR COUNTRIES AND SPREAD THEIR IMMORAL AND UNJUST RELIGION ON OTHERS!! ......israel will and alwasy have the indian goverments support because the trend set in israel will have great repercussions in this part of the world and thats why israel has to be strong and lead an example in resistance against these arab maniacs!!

 

ROMNEY

11:53 AM ET

March 16, 2010

I agree with you, but then

I agree with you, but then the answer comes back to the fact that Israel put itself in those situations in the first place. For those times, you couldn't expect natives to wait by while foreigners are pouring in and claiming what little livable land there is in. Granted, maybe the early founders of Israel didn't intend to make such a statement, but one could see where they're coming from.

For the record, I do disagree with any violence coming from any side. Regardless of the nobility of one's cause, attacking civilians is never right. Period.

 

HISTORY REPEATS ITESELF SO LISTEN UP...

2:34 PM ET

March 16, 2010

Dmitry Reider posts Israeli Hate Articles to Compensate (size)

The fool who wrote this article has a "Google" list a mile long where he has been obviously searching and finding such articles and posting them on the web for no reason anyone can come up with... But to be a thorn in the side of the Jewish people.

And perhaps to compensate for his lack of size in the area of his deepest insecurity....

I would imagine he himself cannot tell you what force controls him and causes him to devote his career to this void and empty endeavor...
It’s crazy to me, just a Georgia born and raised redneck, that even after we (The US) wiped out the Nazi's... That spirit tends to rest in the hearts of fools like this.... Why?
If I had 5 minutes to have a debate (public or private) with Mr. Dmitry, I would verbally pick apart his case until he either had to start lying to himself or just give up his hopeless cause.... This guy even had the cowardice, spineless nerve to post a story about one of the wealthiest men in Israel who bought a very expensive home in London... He presented it as if it were wrong to purchase a tax shelter real-estate... That’s not the worst... The most gut wrenching and undeniably pathetic thing about that article was how he slipped in there that this man was living there with his wife and 2 small children... Am I the only one who feels like that was just too much information for this fool to post in a public forum? Why was that information necessary to get the point across?? It wasn’t.. He was exposing vulnerability to leverage it as intimidation... Sometimes, I can’t believe these people actually exist... I have always watched movies who show these evil villains but you just think that’s only in Hollywood...

 

HISTORY REPEATS ITESELF SO LISTEN UP...

2:45 PM ET

March 16, 2010

You would be wrong to even attempt to explain this article...

If you dont see this as being slander then you are blinded by stupidity if in your mind it is not some sort of predjudice... But I am sure you and I both know you are not really without a biased opinion... Stop tryting to play this rediculous game of "I am enlightened to the truth and somehow you Jews are missing it"... You people make me sick...

 

HISTORY REPEATS ITESELF SO LISTEN UP...

3:08 PM ET

March 16, 2010

Dear Joan Of Arc

I couldn’t let your comment pass by without fueling my jets for one more healthy dose of reality... I was just about to calm down but the apparent lack of knowledge and history from the majority of these comments leaves me realizing that I am going to start a Nation Wide movement on behalf of Israel... I mean the more hatred you people have the more Americans like myself are going to rise up and make sure our voice rings all the way to Capital Frick'n Hill...
Joan... hun... Did you know that when the US did not really support Israel as much, the small minded Middle Eastern crew who surrounded them had a breathtaking idea... They decided that they might join forces and in bully like fashion they would storm into Israel, on their Holy day no doubt, while they were fasting and attack them. They did this long before any of this Palestinian sniffling started...
What they set out to do was destroy them totally (backed by Russia of course who was a super power as well in that day)... But now that the dust settled and we can all recount history, we see that Russia didnt do so well with their support against Israel, in fact they are no longer with us "God rest their souls". The other fact is that the nations surrounding Israel didnt do so well either... In fact, not only did Israel defeat all of their enemies, they took a little piece of property as a token and something to cause their unfriendly neighbors to remember not to do that again...
So please remember Joan, dont be so foolish to say things like you said because most of us read our history books and we are not "Kool-Aid drinkers" (as in Jim Jones), we actually dont fall to the ridiculous uneducated sheep voices who follow the propaganda of the media which has become an embarrassment in my mind to our nation... Israel will have the United States support forever as long as I have a voice, I will see to it... For every one Southern Redneck like me, there are 1,000 just like us that you dont see or hear....

 

MOROCCAN PATRIOT

9:50 PM ET

March 17, 2010

Supporting Apartheid Israel is against US security Interests

People who support Apartheid Israel offend me. They offend me because they are traitors to the United States of America. If you want to give Israel Billions in Welfare, be my guest, donate all the money you want to them, but do not be suprised when you get charged with contributing to a terrorist organization, because that is what Israel really is, just one big terrorist organization.

Judiasm is a great religion. Judiasm teaches respect for the Law. Israel is a terrorist sponsering apartheid theocracy engaged in one criminal act after another. Zionism is a racist ideology that ranks the virtue of Jews based upon their ethnic subset origins.

The Old you are an anti semite or you are a self hating jew ploy will not work with me, because I know what Judiasm, real Judiasm is all about. Real Judiasm is Islam. Just like real Christianity is Islam too.

Americans are learning the truth about Israel, and the get out of jail card that NutandYahoo thinks he has, is the same card that will cut Apartheid Israel off forever. Hubiris is what will finally do Apartheid Israel in.

As for traitors like you and your ilk who dare to call yourself Americans while putting the interests of another state ahead of Americas, I forgive you, because that is what a real Jew, Christian and Muslim would do.

 

SQUEEDLE

1:16 PM ET

March 18, 2010

These claims are easy to disprove

Words like "always" and "never" when applied to groups are "always" wrong and "never" right, and can "never" be taken seriously. Claims like yours are disproved with a single example.

I'm a Jew, I don't throw down the anti-Semite card whenever somebody disagrees with me, and I don't unconditionally support Israel, I condemn the Gaza war, and I don't even support the government of Israel as it exists today for a whole bunch of reasons not just having to do with the Palestinian situation.

I also condemn the increasingly encroaching settlements for what they are - land grabbing a la Chinese in Tibet. The Chinese government sponsors Han Chinese to settle in Tibet to overwhelm the population there, to bolster their claim on the land and make it very difficult or impossible for the Tibetan people to ever have their own country, or even have any level of self-governance.

However I don't demonize either side, and I don't think any one of the many sides to this has the moral high ground. Everyone is wrong to some degree, including and especially you.

Because of people like you on both sides, I'm nearly at the point where I don't care any more, but I force myself to care because not caring would mean a worse human rights disaster than there is now. I care for the sake of kids who have no say, for people on both sides who just want to live.

 

AIRBORNERANGER

3:30 PM ET

March 19, 2010

IsraelDefender.

It seems the truth is a hard bill to swallow for you. Good friends should be the ones you want straightening you out when you mess up. Netanyahu isn't too big on that as well. He called Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod self-hating jews because they dared to be critical of Israel.

 

KURTIS PILLUPS

11:19 AM ET

April 6, 2010

kill em all

I say we bomb all the foreign scum and use thier skulls as coffee mugs

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

5:31 AM ET

March 11, 2010

NO??????

My favorite line of the piece:

"We're told the West Bank (described as 'Judea and Samaria') settlements are 'restored' ancient Jewish villages, not impositions on Palestinian villages or lands."

How dare those wicked Israelis actually refer to biblical lands by their biblical names? The horror, the horror!

How dare Israel claim that Hebron, which is mentioned repeatedly in the Torah and other holy sources, and is universally recognized among Jews as the second holiest place after Jerusalem, is a restored ancient Jewish village? Clearly no Jews ever lived in Hebron before '48, it's all just Zionist propaganda composed by the Council of Elders....the chutzpah!

Thankfully the Palestinians don't refer to any cities or villages in Arabic (for instance, they don't call Jerusalem "Al-Quds"), and they certainly don't educate their people to believe that all of Israel is actually Palestinian land. They would NEVER produce maps that don't officially recognize Israel :

http://www.palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=433

Oh wait, I forgot; people come to FP to criticize Israel, not examine things objectively. My bad...

 

WHODRSWNS

6:42 PM ET

March 11, 2010

no????/???

Then Judea and Samaria my friend, belongs to the Romans not the jews!
Go get a history lesson!

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

12:18 AM ET

March 12, 2010

WHODRSWNS

Wrong again. I can't keep giving you history lessons. The Jews pre-date the ancient Romans in this area, but thank you for playing and we have some lovely parting gifts (not to mention the fact that the ancient Romans have disappeared as a people).

 

ROMNEY

7:02 PM ET

March 16, 2010

Zionism was originally

Zionism was originally conceived as a secular, pragmatic movement. Invoking evidence from holy books only feeds the increasingly popular notion that Israel's foundation is driven by religious extremism. Secular history a more universally acceptable job of confirming Israel's history in the region. But history has shown that many different people used to live where others now do. If Native peoples from the Western Hemisphere were to follow that example, or (hypothetically speaking) the Caanites that once lived before the ancient Hebrews, it'd be considered illegitimate.

 

SQUEEDLE

1:52 PM ET

March 18, 2010

This attachment everyone has

This attachment everyone has to those holy sites causes a lot of suffering. I don't believe God wants us to fight over a bunch of old dead bricks and burial sites that may not even be the ones we think they are. I think God far prefers that we treat the living with love and compassion over clinging to cold stone and sand because of words in ancient books. These sites aren't just holy to Jews; they are recognized as holy sites by Christians and Muslims, too. People are fighting over them like children fight over toys; when we grow up we realize how stupid it is to fight over an object, and how much more important it is to treasure life, and to love each other.

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

5:44 AM ET

March 11, 2010

What determines international pariah status?

China brutalizes Tibet, refuses to recognize its existence and censors and represses its own people. Yet China is not an international pariah. Russia brutalized Chechnya and continues to repress its people. Russia is also not a global pariah.

It's not actually Israel's policies that make it a pariah - many other countries have much worse policies, and several of them are only a few blocks away from Israel.

The real factors (which have nothing to do with ad campaigns coming out of Israel):

- There are billions of Muslims, and 13 million Jews in the world
- Anti-Semitism is the world's oldest hatred. Israel has become the Jew among the nations. It's not longer fashionable to call someone a dirty Jew, but you can say Israel is an apartheid regime.
- Most of the world's oil comes from Muslim countries. Other countries need to maintain good relations with oil producers.
- Muslim dictators need to distract their subjects from their own misery. A bogeyman needs to be created. A scape goat...
- Liberals like Reider see everything through the paradigm of "big vs. small, natives vs. oppressors, etc." They do this while minimizing the threat of Islamic terrorists and their goals.

 

ASHIKCHRIS

11:09 AM ET

March 11, 2010

With All Due Respect...

Both China and Russia *ARE* pariahs, and in both cases uneasy relations with them exist because of their respective military and economic clouts in spite of their dismal human rights records. But we also have Iran, Syria, and Sudan, which have worse associations in the minds of Westerners than Israel.

The "historically Jewish" biblical lands were (according to the Bible) invaded by the Jewish people upon their exodus from Egypt. Previously, they had been populated by local Canaanite tribes, such as the "Philistines" (filistiniyya - Palestinians). I mean, if you want to treat the Bible as a literal historical document, which does not make much sense.

Israel is considered by most countries as a part of the community of liberal democracies. She is a prosperous nation with a strong democratic commitment. Because of this, the putative "international community" is more willing to hold Israel to a higher standard than otherwise. So when she effectively cuts off an entire region - Gaza - from aid assistance in order to punish militants contained therein at the expense of the local population (who may or may not support Hamas), the international community is rightly concerned and angered.

Finally, Jews and Israelis have suffered for thousands of years. My concern, as a Muslim married to a Jew, is that Israelis have been acting toward Palestinians in the same manner that those who persecuted Jews have done. Nazis placed Jews in ghettos and surrounded them by walls. Nazi Germany claimed the need for "liebensraum" in order to annex territories that, while historically German, were under the political control of other nations.

Israel has a right to exist; but so do the Palestinians. And the Palestinians have a right to self-determination, whether it is as Palestine or as legal citizens of Israel (in which case they shall probably take issue with the "Jewish character" of the state). Keeping Palestinians in a limbo where they have access neither to independent sovereignty nor political representation as a part of Israel is the very definition of "apartheid."

When neither party can accept that the other should have equal rights under law, then both should be ashamed.

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

4:51 PM ET

March 11, 2010

ASHIKCHRIS

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

There was zero connection between the Philistines and the Palestinians:

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_early_palestine_name_origin.php

The Philistines were not Arabs nor even Semites, they were most closely related to the Greeks originating from Asia Minor and Greek localities. They did not speak Arabic. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs.

Quoting Golda Meir:

* The British chose to call the land they mandated Palestine, and the Arabs picked it up as their nation's supposed ancient name, though they couldn't even pronounce it correctly and turned it into Falastin - a fictional entity.

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

4:52 PM ET

March 11, 2010

China is a Pariah?

China is a Pariah?

I guess I missed that. I was too busy watching them host the Olympics in 2008...

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

4:58 PM ET

March 11, 2010

peace?

"Israel has a right to exist; but so do the Palestinians."

That must be why Israel accepted the U.N. partition plan in the late 1940s. The Palestinians rejected it, and Israel was attacked by 5 Arab armies.

That must be why Israel has elected Prime Ministers who run on platforms of peace (Yitzhak Rabin, Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert), and it must be why Israel made peace with Egypt and Jordan. It must be why Israel signed the Oslo accords.

It must be why Ehud Barak accepted Clinton's peace plan in 2000, while Arafat rejected it and didn't counter-offer. Polls consistently show that the majority of Israelis want peace and a two-state solution.

You probably know none of this, because anyone who did wouldn't make moronic Nazi comparisons (I don't remember Hitler accepting any plan to grant German Jews sovereignty, nor do I remember German Jews teaming with enemies of Germany in an attempt to destroy it, a la Hamas)...

 

WHODRSWNS

6:45 PM ET

March 11, 2010

projecting

Stop doing the time honored Israeli thing of trying to point fingers at everyone else . We are not on a comment section about china or anyone else but Israel!

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

12:19 AM ET

March 12, 2010

WHODRSWNS

Yes, the key to being an Israel hater is to keep the spotlight always on Israel, and to excoriate Israel for things that other countries do with regularity. FP is very good at making this play...

Let's not look at the Palestinians and things they have done to exacerbate this conflict. Nope, blame the Jew among the Nations, Israel.

 

JOANOFARCH

1:25 AM ET

March 14, 2010

Power

Who has the power in that area right now. Not the Palestinians.
The lack of human rights is unbelievable. You think a people who have been thru so much would have more compassion for others.
It is all about controlling an area. And Power!!!

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

5:46 AM ET

March 11, 2010

excellent linkage

"(Though it is unclear whether the Israeli government funded this ad, overseas advocacy organizations generally take their cues from the homeland.)"

So your main example to prove that Netanyahu and Israel are terrible at PR is an ad you can't even conclusively link to Israel? Wow, Reider, you are an impressive writer. Your "talent' is wasted at FP. Keep up that objective journalistic standard that your editors must be so proud of...

 

NAZIA

7:58 AM ET

March 11, 2010

Life outside from mentioned Paradise

Oh yes enter in this paradise which is surrounded by hell like situation where mortars and gunfire are thrown to unarmed civilians of Palestinians.Just on the door step of this paradise standing lot of revengeful victims of war willing to explode these residence of so called paradise by blowing them off in second.

 

NSC LONDON

10:33 AM ET

March 11, 2010

OMG that ad is retarded!

OMG that ad is retarded! I've become accustomed to the Pro-Islamofascism and Anti-Israel bent of this site so I was expecting more Jew-hating propaganda (there is a bit of that as well) but this ad actually is unbelievably stupid.

Israel, love you love your show, call me I'll help you sort your image out. You obviously need the services of a professional ad-man because my friend, that was weak sauce.

 

NSC LONDON

10:34 AM ET

March 11, 2010

Israel Defender

Yes and yes. Liked your posts a lot, well said.

 

NSC LONDON

10:35 AM ET

March 11, 2010

This in particular...

Is completely true:

Liberals like Reider see everything through the paradigm of "big vs. small, natives vs. oppressors, etc." They do this while minimizing the threat of Islamic terrorists and their goals.

 

RHODESCOLOSSUS

12:30 PM ET

March 11, 2010

Yup.

Sam from Cal and Chris have it right. Somehow, FP is an anti-Semitic site because it FREELY allows individuals to make comments pertaining to their take on an event. I think the hysteria that usually follows posts critical of Israel are indicative of the deep insecurities a few readers of this blog may have concerning Israel's FP. Sure this piece wasn't amazing journalism, but the ad, nevertheless, was lame as hell. Judging by the usual suspects that follow the "minor" flow of reports done on Israel, it appears to me they would prefer to have any criticism of Israel silenced. How would this blog look if that were the case? It would lose all its integrity. Emotional diatribes do not make up for a lack of skills in constructive and critical debate.

 

NSC LONDON

12:43 PM ET

March 11, 2010

Nope

Rhodes - FP isn't anti-Semitic, it is anti-Israel, and this has nothing to with the site permitting pro-Palestine comments (seriously, we have to tell you these things?), it has to do with the frequency with which anti-Israel stories are featured on the site.

Sam - are you suggesting that AllanG's comment about the Arab world being a "backward medieval slum" is somehow "racism" or "anti-Arab" bigotry? To most right-thinking people a civilisation that endorses child marriage, strips women of their rights and whose mainstream news publications freely describe Jews as "pigs," that's exactly what the Arab world is - a backward (child brides), medieval (no women's rights) slum.

 

ASHIKCHRIS

3:10 PM ET

March 11, 2010

Actually...

... it *IS* racist and anti-Arab bigotry.

First of all, "Arab" and "Muslim" are not synonymous. I'm Muslim, and not an Arab. Second, "Islam" does not endorse child marriage, idiots within Islam do. To do so would be like saying that all Jews deny the Holocaust because that one fringe Jew went to the Holocaust denial conference in Tehran. Third, taking a fact (more African-Americans are in prison than their white counterparts) and then generalizing it (all African-Americans are in prison, have gone to prison, or will go to prison) is the simple way to turn an observable fact into prejudicial (that is, pre-judging) supposition.

Are your comments "racist" and "anti-Arab"? No. But they are offensive to Muslims, who are of all races and are not all Arab (actually, there are more non-Arab Muslims than Arab ones).

 

ISRAELDEFENDER

5:03 PM ET

March 11, 2010

ASHIKCHRIS

Funny. People on this board keep accusing Israel defenders of playing the victim card. Seems that it is actually the defenders of the Palestinians who are doing it...

 

JACOB BLUES

2:00 PM ET

March 11, 2010

So now FP is a maven on advertisments?!?

Honestly, as an ad, I've seen better / worse / more risque on You Tube.

That a tourism ad campaign is considered grist for FP's political views seems somewhat off base, kind of like going to People magazine for one's domestic political opinions of the White House.

When articles include commentary such as "the government has gone for diversion, with a series of flashy (and, in the case above, idiotic) global ad campaigns" shows an abscence of analysis on the part of the author, not Israeli ad campaigns and does more to highlight the ignorance of Mr. Reider than anything else.

Meanwhile, the idea that Israel is snubbing the world when it rejects the Goldstone report, highlights a view that the only acceptable Jew is one that is kowtowing to the powers that be. Pause for a moment and realize that when Israel has been "reprimanded" magnitudes of times more often than either North Korea and Sudan, by the UN's Human Rights committee, shows that Israelis have a real concern when it comes to trusting the global political body. Combined with the other issues (Turkey, Congressional delegations on tour with J-Street), is more of the line of 'ticky-tack' fouls, than compared to seriously egregious conditions.

But in a world where people believe that Jews drink blood, were behind the 9/11 attacks, and hold some secret cabal to control the US government, well, yes, you're going to see PR campaigns to provide another source of information.

 

THOM

11:31 PM ET

March 15, 2010

Agreed!!!

"Though it is unclear whether the Israeli government funded this ad, overseas advocacy organizations generally take their cues from the homeland."

I started reading FP a month or two ago when a friend forwarded an article. I thought, hey, here's a site that believes in journalistic integrity. Then I read this article barely worthy of a movie review blog that somehow connects Israeli policy to an ad some Canadian put together to counter the boycott Israel week.

This article isn't anti-semitism, it isn't even anti-Israel, it's simply idiotic. It angers me because it tries to connect by some vague parenthetical assertion that any viral video made for Israel is somehow dictated by official Israeli policy.

Netanyahu called some shmuck with a video camera that lives in Toronto and said, "the homeland needs you, here's some gold from my club pocket, make an ad to sink the Muslims on campus!"??? Look closely and you'll see Lieberman's shadowed figure behind the curtain at 1:18!!! Holy crap batman is that Herzl's ghost floating about at 2:13?!?!?!

This article is cheap. It cheapens FP. It's baseless and moronic.

THERE IS AN ARTICLE ON FP THAT CRITICIZES ISRAELI POLICY BECAUSE SOME PRO-ISRAELI STUDENT WANTED TO FIGHT THE "BOYCOTT ISRAEL WEEK" with youtube video!!!!!!! LAME! LAME! LAME! WANT TO CRITICIZE A MOVIE...TRY AVATAR IT SUCKED JUST AS BADLY!

 

JACOB BLUES

2:15 PM ET

March 11, 2010

If Israeli commercials are going to be judged, then at least

use a wider (and better selection)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzcpVhrqKU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad4fagTyaM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfDZsM7tqxU

 

NSC LONDON

4:40 AM ET

March 12, 2010

AshikChris

Regarding the distinction between Arabs and Muslims - you are right and I stand corrected.

Regarding this comment - "Islam" does not endorse child marriage, idiots within Islam do. You are sorely mistaken sir. Need I remind you of a few things? The Prophet married Aisha when she was only 6 (raped her at 9), and Islam commands all Muslims to aspire to and emulate the Prophet in all that they do. This is why even "moderate" Muslim countries such as Malaysia and Morocco permit filthy old men to marry children.

You are welcome to attempt to lay Islam's backwardness at the door of "culture" as many apologists do, but it takes relatively little investigation to discover that the vile behaviours associated are encoded in the faith itself, not the result of "misunderstanding" the religion or of specific cultural differences.

 

ROMNEY

9:28 AM ET

March 17, 2010

NSC London

You're taking the Prophet's marriage of Aisha out of context. For one thing, back then child marriage was common among many civilizations. So while it's repulsive by our standards, it was the norm back then.

Secondly, marriage at that time was more contractual than what we understand it to be today. Many wives and daughters were left widowed and orphaned by the endemic conflict of the region, so to take many of them in marriage was more foe taking them under your protection than for sexual purposes. Mohammed scarcely had any sexual relations with most of his wives, and those that are reported are still disputed. Solomon's taking of 700 wives, many believed to be underage, is never scrutinized, so why should Mohammed's?

Regardless, this debate is being taken out of context. Too many people in the pro-Israeli camp seem to justify Israel's actions in the region by invoking it's 'higher' culture and civilization when compared to the Arabs. That is a dangerous practice that dilutes that humanity - and therefore legitimacy - of the other side.

Besides, it ignores the barbarity of some in the Israeli camp as well. Orthodox settlers who train their children with guns to fight Arabs, who have taken many wives themselves, or who even give prostitutes to boys reaching bar mitzvahs. Granted, this doesn't describe all Jews, far from it. But these are among the minority that is pushing for ever more encroachment into Palestinian land.

Centuries of pogroms against Jews were backed by the belief that there were a barbaric people. Similar motivations were behind the mass slaughter and subjugation of indigenous people the world over. Today we learn that these actions were wrong, period. That is regardless of the nature of the victims. For the record, Arab attempts to paint the Jews in an uncivilized light is just as despicable. I hold both sides into account for this.

 

HIJINX

9:15 AM ET

March 12, 2010

Learn history

If you want to know what the future of Israel might look like without the security barrier, just observe what is happening in Nigeria. It's a good example of what has been happening over the last 1500 years. Muslim nomads invade an area and begin massacring and brutalizing the local population until they are all either dead, have fled, or have converted to Islam. Look for Nigeria to soon become the next member of the Organization of Islamic Countries. This will happen a short time before the United Kingdom joins.

 

MJ

7:22 PM ET

March 14, 2010

HIJINXED

Except HIJINX, in this case it was Jews from Europe and elsewhere who invaded and drove out Palestinians from their land and are now stealing the last bits left with Palestinians.

 

NSC LONDON

9:24 AM ET

March 12, 2010

^Amen brother!

So true, particularly that last little crack about the UK :)

 

ROMNEY

9:32 AM ET

March 17, 2010

Muslims only constitute 3% of

Muslims only constitute 3% of the UK's population, a number not expected to get any higher than 5 or 6 percent by 2030. Such fear mongering of a Muslim takeover is unjustified, especially when most of the Muslims in the UK come from former colonies that were subjugated by British imperialism.

Taking in some of the people it once ruled is the least the UK can do.

 

ROMNEY

8:53 AM ET

March 17, 2010

It's one thing to be so disagreeable...

But it's another to be so disrespectful and petty with one another. If there's one thing that jeopardizes the learning experience that comes with any good debate, it's everyone letting their emotions and visceral dislike of the opposition get in the way. Why can't any discourse into this issue go on without cries of antisemitism or Arab prejudice? Why can't we just take the criticism, so long as it's not blatantly explicit?

 

DIEGO

6:31 PM ET

March 17, 2010

counterfeit Israel's paid "defenders"

ISRAELI HIRES INTERNET SOLDIERS
Saturday, July 18th, 2009
http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israeli-hires-internet-soldiers/6148/

The Foreign Ministry presents: talkbackers in the service of the State?
By: Dora Kishinevski?Calcalist 5 July 2009
http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3319543,00.html

 

DIEGO

6:34 PM ET

March 17, 2010

genocide committed by "the victims"

July 2, 1946: The Bombing of the King David Hotel masterminded by Menachem Begin, 91 dead

April 9, 1948: Irgun and Stern Gang massacre 260 Arab civilians in Deir Yassin

Sept 17, 1948: Yitzhak Shamir's Stern Gang assassinate Swedish peace mediator, Count Folke Bernadotte

October 14-15, 1953: Ariel Sharon commands attack on Qibya, 42 homes destroyed, 60 civilians killed

Holy Week 1954 Israelis desecrate Christian cemeteries in Haifa

July 14, 1954: Israeli Army intelligence, Modin, firebombs civilian post office in Egypt

1956 terrorist atrocity in Kafr Qasim, 47 cold-blooded murders

1966, village of Sammu attacked, 18 dead, 100 wounded

1967 USS Liberty attacked 34 sailors dead, 170 wounded -- not civilians, but non-participants

June 5, 1967, "In danger of being attacked" Israel launches war, 759 Israelis and 15,000 Arabs dead

1969 Israeli bombing of school Bahdr al Baker, 75 children dead, 100 wounded

March 1, 1970, Israel invades Lebanon, civilian death toll unknown

Sept 8, 1972 Israeli bombing of Syrian and Lebanese civilians, "hundreds dead"

1974: Israeli terrorists attack civilian aircraft; desecrate Christian shrines including Church of the Holy Sepulcher, stealing the diamond crown of the statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary

1975-1980: numerous Mossad assassinations of Palestinian scientists, journalists, and others

August 1982: 20,000 civilians dead from Israeli bombing of Beirut on the orders of Ariel Sharon

September 1982 massacres of the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps, 800 women, children, and elderly killed

October 1982: Israeli terrorists bombed houses, cars, and offices of three elected mayors of the West Bank cities, Nablus, Ramallah, and Al Beireh

1984 kidnapping of Palestinians on the high seas off merchant vessels

1986 Palestinian cartoonist, Naj Al Ali, assassinated

April 1988 Israeli commandos invade the home of Khalil Al Wazir, a Palestinian leader, and shoot him in bed

February-March 1989 Israeli jets bomb Beka Valley, 15 children killed, more adults

April 14, 1989 Israeli police and armed Jewish settlers attack disarmed Palestinian village, Nahalin, 8 killed, 50 wounded

February 25, 1994 Kach Party terrorist Baruch Goldstein uses assault rifle to murder 39 Palestinians worshipping at Cave of the Patriarchs mosque in Hebron, rabbis praise his actions and then Prime Minister Yitshak Rabin gives permission for a memorial to honor Goldstein

Here's a picture of the shrine to the mass murderer:

February 27, 1994 Israeli Mossad bombs Our Lady of Deliverance Maronite Catholic Church at Jounieh, Lebanon, 11 killed.

1996 Israeli massacre of civilians at Qana, Lebanon

April 14, 2000, homes of civilians bulldozed (actions admitted by Ha'aretz and praised by the canonized "Holocaust survivor" Elie Wiesel)

Dec. 10, 2001. “Palestinian activist Muhammad Sidir, 24, had his face maimed and burned and his eyes blinded by a U.S. made Israeli helicopter firing missiles in a crowded intersection during an assassination attempt on Sidir. Two Palestinian children died in the attacks and two other children were injured. Israeli helicopter gunships hovered over the carnage for five minutes, preventing immediate medical attention from being administered to the wounded and dying.”

December 17, 2001 Israeli troops murder Palestinian activist Yacoub Aidkadik

January 14, 2002 assassination of Palestinian resistance leader Raed al-Karmi

January 24, 2002 assassination of Elie Hobeika who was preparing to testify at a war crimes trial in Belgium against his former ally Ariel Sharon regarding Sharon’s masterminding of the Sabra and Chatila massacres

March 6-16, 2002. 200 Palestinian civilians slaughtered in Jabalya refugee camp in the Gaza ghetto

March 30, 2002, 5 Palestinian bank guards summarily executed in Ramallah

April 8, 2002 et seq., bombardment of the Church of the Nativity, Bethlehem, the only major church in the Holy Land that had survived intact from the early Christian period

April 9, 2002 (ironically on Yom Has Shoa, "Holocaust Remembrance Day"): Israeli massacre of 52 Palestinian civilians in Jenin

May 20, 2002 Mossad car bombing of Mohammed Jibril, Palestinian leader

March 16, 2003 Rachel Corrie, 23, was crushed to death by an Israeli army bulldozer in Rafah, Gaza, as she protested against house demolitions

April 11, 2003 Tom Hurndall, 21, from London shot in the head by an Israeli soldier as he tried to help a Palestinian woman and her children.

November 24, 2004 “Captain R” murdered a 13-year old Palestinian girl, Iman Alhamas, by pulverising her little body with some 20 bullets as she lay on the ground. ‘We should kill even three year old children, too, he said to his soldiers.’ A military court actually gave him some $20,000 as an encouragement bonus, and he was promoted to the rank of major. He enjoyed coming back to Gaza, he told Maariv newspaper.

August 4, 2005 timed precisely to interfere with Gaza withdrawal, an Israeli Army “deserter” (or operative?) and Kach Party member Eden Natan-Zada, using an assault rifle, attacked a bus killing 4, wounding 12 Palestinians

July-August 2006 Israelis bomb Lebanon for 33 days, preliminary death toll 1,300; Lebanon’s infrastructure destroyed, termed “bombed into the stone age.”
The photographic evidence:

November 18, 2006 Swedish human rights worker beaten, 5 Palestinians (including a 3-year-old child) beaten and stoned while the assailants chanted, “We killed Jesus and we’ll kill you too!”

February 6, 2007 Foul mouthed drunken Talmudist harasses Palestinians on their land, “You and your f@#king Jesus can kiss my a$%....We killed Jesus and we’re proud of it...”

2005-2007 Israelis kill 1,290, including 222 children in Gaza

2007 Amnesty International Report "Increased violence between Israelis and Palestinians resulted in a threefold increase in killings of Palestinians by Israeli forces. The number of Israelis killed by Palestinian armed groups diminished by half. More than 650 Palestinians, including some 120 children, and 27 Israelis were killed. Israeli forces carried out air and artillery bombardments in the Gaza Strip, and Israel continued to expand illegal settlements and to build a 700-km fence/wall on Palestinian land in the Occupied Territories. Military blockades and increased restrictions imposed by Israel on the movement of Palestinians and the confiscation by Israel of Palestinian customs duties caused a significant deterioration in living conditions for Palestinian inhabitants in the Occupied Territories, with poverty, food aid dependency, health problems and unemployment reaching crisis levels. Israeli soldiers and settlers committed serious human rights abuses, including unlawful killings, against Palestinians, mostly with impunity. Thousands of Palestinians were arrested by Israeli forces throughout the Occupied Territories on suspicion of security offences and hundreds were held in administrative detention. Israeli conscientious objectors continued to be imprisoned for refusing to serve in the army. In a 34-day war against Hizbullah in Lebanon in July-August, Israeli forces committed serious violations of international humanitarian law, including war crimes. Israeli bombardments killed nearly 1,200 people, and destroyed or damaged tens of thousands of homes and other civilian infrastructure. Israeli forces also littered south Lebanon with around a million unexploded cluster bombs which continued to kill and maim civilians after the conflict.”

May 30, 2007 Former Sephardi Chief Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu announces “absolutely no moral prohibition against the indiscriminate killing of civilians.” His son, Chief Rabbi of Safed Schmuel Eliyahu added, "If they don't stop after we kill 100, then we must kill a thousand," said Shmuel Eliyahu. "And if they do not stop after 1,000 then we must kill 10,000. If they still don't stop we must kill 100,000, even a million. Whatever it takes to make them stop."

June 1, 2007 "Israeli troops shot and killed two 13-year-old Palestinians [Ahmed Abu Zbeida and Zaher al-Majdalawi] near the Gaza-Israel border fence Friday, saying they were crawling toward the barrier in a ``suspicious manner.'' The boys had told their families they were going to the beach. (Guardian, June 1, 2007)"

July 5, 2007 Slouching Towards a Palestinian Holocaust by Richard Falk

November 2007 The International Committee of the Red Cross issues a report on Israel’s inhuman treatment of Palestinians

January 20, 2008 Israelis admit to assassinations

March 20, 2008 16 year old son of Protestant pastor injured by bomb in a Purim gift basket

May 20, 2008 Orthodox Jewish youths burn New Testaments

June 5, 2008 (the evening of “Holocaust Remembrance Day) two teenagers stabbed and beaten by dozens of Israelis. Perpetrators released.

June 6, 2008 Four Israelis beat elderly couple with baseball bats, captured on video.

August 2008 Israelis train, instigate, and assist Georgia in attacking South Ossetia
See also: Matthew Raphael Johnson, “Israel, Oil and Death: The War for Ossetia,” Culture Wars, October 2008, 6-11 & 25.

October 2008 Israelis terrorize Palestinian olive harvesters, including beating 65-year-old man.

December 2008 Israelis use white phosphorus against civilians in Gaza.

December 31, 2008 – January 4, 2009 Israeli attacks on civilians:
Among the dead are civilians gunned down while fleeing their homes under orders from the IDF, and clutching little white flags:

December 31, 2008 – January 4, 2009 Physicians for Human Rights reports numerous Israeli attacks on medical personnel:

January 5, 2009 Israelis attack a United Nations school, 43 dead. UNRWA chief John Ging emphasized that the school was a purely civilian target: “I can tell you categorically that there was no militant activity in that school at the time of that tragedy … We have established beyond any doubt that the school was not being used by any militants.”

January 7, 2009 Israeli “Defense” Force targets ambulances and medical teams.

January 8, 2009 International Red Cross accused Israel of violating international law after witnessing “shocking” scenes in which aid workers found four children, too weak to stand, lying next to their dead mothers in a house containing at least 12 corpses:

January 8, 2009 Amnesty International has accused Israel, as well as Hamas, of using civilians as human shields:

January 8, 2009 Eyewitnesses report, the Israeli “Defense” Force ordered 100 members of an extended family to gather in a single house, then repeatedly shelled that house, killing 60-70 people, and then prevented ambulances and aid workers from attending to the injured by shooting at them and refusing to coordinate safe passage.

April 27, 2009 Jewish Financial Aggression, Worldwide Economic Nakba
http://tinyurl.com/cha6ug

July 29, 2009 “Far-rightists urge IDF draftees to cover up abuse of Palestinians” by Anshel Pfeffer, Haaretz

August 19, 2009 “Top Sweden newspaper says IDF kills Palestinians for their organs” Morten Berthelsen and Barack Ravid, Haaretz - Israel News
http://www.counterpunch.org/weir08282009.html

September 11, 2009 Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv publishes The Complete Guide to Killing Non-Jews by Roi Sharon
An English translation is here:

September 25, 2009 The Goldstone Report

November 24, 2009 Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro publishes book funded by the Israeli government endorsing the killing of children and infants

December 12, 2009 “Death to Christians”: Hebrew graffiti next to Upper Room in Jerusalem

December 14, 2009 Russian cathedral in Jerusalem vandalized"

December 16, 2009 More anti-Christian death threats and almost daily urinations at the Cenacle, sacred site of the Last Supper

December 27, 2009 Before Christmas Israelis steal sacred Mary’s Gate from the Church of the Holy Sepulchre.

December 30, 2009 Christian convert repeatedly attacked in Jerusalem, police do nothing

December 30, 2009 Christians in Jerusalem want Jews to stop spitting on them by Amiram Barkat

January 19, 2010 assassination of Palestinian leader, Mahmoud al Mabhouh by 18 member death squad of Israel’s international secret police, the Mossad
Mossad’s Murderous Reach: The Larger Political Issues by Prof. James Petras

February 13, 2010 Under cover of helping Haiti, Caribbean "Elder Brothers in the Faith" Under Investigation for Child Trafficking, Sex Slavery

February 22, 2010 At Israel’s Herzliya Conference Jewish Professor from Harvard called for "the West" to take measures to curb the births of Palestinians, a proposal that appears to meet the international legal definition of a call for genocide.
Superfluous young men by Martin Kramer
February 7, 2010

 

DIEGO

6:35 PM ET

March 17, 2010

Polish proverb

"The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."

 

MOROCCAN PATRIOT

9:57 PM ET

March 17, 2010

Zionist Proverbs

When you get Americans giving you money to steal more money from them you call them Useful idiots.

You spit on them and tell them it is raining and serve the Matza balls as you make fun of their redicilous religious beliefs - what hutzpa!!!

Zionists hate black people. They view them all as putzes and schmucks.

 

JAMES M DELANEY

2:04 AM ET

March 19, 2010

No actual shortage of Holocaust survivors

It's now official - there's no actual shortage of Holocaust survivors:

Extracts from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso in 2000:

'The Israeli Prime Minister's office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million.' (page 83)

'If 135,000 former Jewish slave laborers are still alive today, some 600,000 must have survived the war. That's at least a half-million more than standard estimates.. If Jews only constituted 20% of the surviving camp population and, as the Holocaust industry implies, 600,000 Jewish inmates survived the war, then fully 3 million inmates in total must have survived. By the Holocaust industry's reckoning, concentration camp conditions couldn't have been that harsh at all; in fact, one must suppose a remarkably high fertility and remarkably low mortality rate.. If, as the Holocaust industry suggests, many hundreds of thousands of Jews survived, the Final Solution couldn't have been so efficient after all ­ exactly what Holocaust deniers argue.' (pp127-8).

'Both my father and my mother were survivors of the Warsaw ghetto and the Nazi concentration camps.. One of my father's lifelong friends was a former inmate with him in Auschwitz, a seemingly incorruptible left-wing idealist who on principle refused German compensation after the war. Eventually he became a director of the Israeli Holocaust museum, Yad Vashem. Reluctantly and with genuine disappointment, my father finally admitted that even this man had been corrupted by the Holocaust industry, tailoring his beliefs for power and profit. As the rendering of the Holocaust assumed ever more absurd forms, my mother liked to quote (with intentional irony) Henry Ford: "History is bunk." (p7).

'The Holocaust proved to be the perfect weapon for deflecting criticism of Israel' (p30).

'Much of the literature on Hitler's Final Solution is worthless as scholarship. Indeed, the field of Holocaust studies is replete with nonsense, if not sheer fraud.' (p 55).

'Given the nonsense that is turned out daily by the Holocaust industry, the wonder is that there are so few skeptics'. (p 68).

'Annual Days of Remembrance of the Holocaust are a national event. All 50 states sponsor commemorations, often in state legislative chambers.. Seven major Holocaust museums dot the American landscape. The centerpiece of this memorialization is the United States Holocaust museum in Washington.. (This) museum's annual budget is $50 million, of which $30 million is federally subsidized.' (p72). (This is in spite of the fact that, as he points out on page 32, per capita Jewish income in the US is almost double that of non-Jews). 'With a reelection campaign looming, Jimmy Carter initiated the (US Holocaust Museum) project to placate Jewish contributors and voters, galled by the president's recognition of the "legitimate rights" of Palestinians.' (p 73).

To conclude:

'The Holocaust may yet turn out to be the "greatest robbery in the history of mankind".. The Holocaust industry has clearly gone berserk.'(p 138-9).
'Through its deployment, one of the world's most formidable military powers, with a horrendous human rights record, has cast itself as a 'victim' state, and the most successful ethnic group in the United States has likewise acquired victim status. Considerable benefits accrue to this specious victimhood ­ in particular, immunity to criticism, however justified. " (p3).

 

JAMES M DELANEY

2:06 AM ET

March 19, 2010

The interesting arithmetic of the Holocaust

Interesting arithmetic - the incredible numbers

Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).

According to Lengyel, ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]

This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months). Notice the bald precision of the figures without any explanation, the utter confidence in the reader's credulity.

The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: "Passionate, tormenting". Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering "You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten speak."

Could this claim be a misprint?

Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures:

‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz - paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).

According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.

'Sir' Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah:

In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states

‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26). [This statement, first noticed by Professor Robert Faurisson, was then deleted (not corrected) from the next edition - no simple typo, no simple error with omission or spelling or grammar, just a case of being caught red-handed in blatant chutzpah deluxe.]

If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the admittedly awe-inspiring claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.

 

JAMES M DELANEY

2:08 AM ET

March 19, 2010

Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia

Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica

Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesman for the very sizeable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. [According to Norman Finkelstein of the City University of New York in his book The Holocaust Industry published in the year 2000, ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million’ (p.83)]. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize..

Time Magazine, March 18 1985:

‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? "I will never know" he says. "I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?"

Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:

"In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions."

 

JAMES M DELANEY

2:10 AM ET

March 19, 2010

Churchill the 'denialist'

I've checked out the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War (final volume published in 1959) and the statement is quite correct - not a single mention of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.

Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill's Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.

In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.