Who's Afraid of a One-State Solution?

As Israeli-Palestian peace talks remain at an impasse, a radical solution gains steam.

BY DMITRY REIDER | MARCH 31, 2010

In light of the ongoing deadlock in Israeli-Palestinian peace talks, leaders such as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Israeli opposition leader Tzipi Livni have raised the specter of a one-state solution. Their intention, of course, is to scare some sense into Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his intransigent coalition partners. But, as this once-taboo idea becomes a legitimate part of political discussion in the region, some Israeli intellectuals are making the case that this is not something to fear, but a path toward a viable resolution to the region's long-running crisis.

The two-state solution has presented no shortage of obstacles: Negotiations are mired in talks about talks; the settlement policy is splintering what little territory was envisaged for the Palestinian state; and Israelis are becoming increasingly aware that the conflict doesn't stop at the Green Line, but emerges in varying shapes, including unprecedented racism and sectarian rioting within Israel proper. It's little wonder, then, that an increasing number of Israeli voices are beginning to inquire whether the one-state idea is more than just a bogeyman.

The one-state solution has long had advocates among the Palestinian diaspora, from Edward Said to Ghada Karmi and Ali Abunimah. However, there has recently been an exponential rise in mainstream Israeli media of articles that seriously consider the one-state arrangement. Trawling through the online archives of mainstream media, I found just three such articles from 2004 to 2007, but 16 pieces from 2008 to 2010. A 5,000-word essay by former Jerusalem Deputy Mayor Meron Benvenisti, arguing that the binational state is all but inevitable at this stage, was published in January and still sits atop Haaretz's most read and most emailed articles. Now comes the latest installment: sociologist Yehouda Shenhav's book The Time of the Green Line (or, in its Hebrew title, Trapped by the Green Line), released in February by the impeccably mainstream Am Oved publishing house.

Shenhav's book re-examines the very premises on which Israel and its allies perceive the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He suggests that the dispute's fundamental problem is that most Israelis and Palestinians are using two different timelines, with conflicting conceptions of the conflict's "year zero." For centrist or left-wing Israelis, it is 1967: the year when the West Bank and Gaza were occupied and the hitherto small, democratic, idealistic Israel turned sour. "All that I'm trying to do is allow my grandchildren to live in this country as I lived in it during the quietest, most beautiful decade of its life -- 1957 to 1967," Shenhav quotes Yossi Beilin, an architect of the Oslo Accords and the Geneva Initiative, a private follow-up plan, as saying. For the Palestinians, Shenhav says, year zero remains 1948: the year of the mass expulsion of Arabs and the creation of a regime that systematically excluded them from meaningful participation in political and social life.

Shenhav deconstructs the nostalgic view of a supposedly pure pre-1967 Israel -- highlighting its military administration of the Galilee region and of Arab cities, and its rampant discrimination against Arab ("Oriental") Jews. Moreover, he suggests the elite-oriented left fetishizes this era not due to its objections to Israeli incursion into Arab space, but because of the influx of Arabness, and the religious nationalism it elicited from Jews, into "civilized," Westernized Israel. For Shenhav, "the 'new nostalgia' longs for an Israel ruled by a secular, Jewish Ashkenazi regime," before the influx of Arabic-speaking Jews into the Israeli political space and that of Palestinian Arabs into Israelis' day-to-day lives. The fear of growing non-European influence in Israel, Shenhav argues, also motivates centrist, segregationist Israeli political trends, which support the separation wall and even unilateral Israeli withdrawal from the Palestinian territories exclusively to defuse Israel's "demographic time bomb."

Shenhav suggests that the Israeli consensus over the two-state solution stems from the hope to go back to 1967, without revisiting the original sins of the expulsions and expropriations of 1948. Moreover, he that argues the two-state solution as propagated today will cause lasting damage not just to settlers -- most of whom, including the second and third generations, would lose their homes -- but to the Palestinian refugees, who will be sidelined, as they were by the Oslo process. The group set to suffer the worst political consequences of this two-state solution are Israeli Arabs, who will be pressured to seek redress for their demands from the new Palestinian state or even, if the views of Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman are heeded, have their Israeli citizenship forcibly withdrawn and replaced with a Palestinian one.

Rather than pinning his hopes for an equitable solution on the Israeli left, Shenhav actually looks to a coalition of Palestinians, non-Zionist leftists, and, most surprisingly, a few dissident settlers for a solution to the dispute. Unlike the Israeli left -- bogged down in nostalgia for a mythically pure pre-1967 Israel -- he argues that an increasing number of settlers are more in sync with the Palestinian timeline of 1948 and are opting to share sovereignty rather than give up their homes. Moreover, some appear to be more aware than "mainland" Israelis of the realities of occupation; Shenhav quotes a settler journal slamming the checkpoints and curfews, as well as a prominent settler educator saying that the military regime's ongoing wrongs are "like Sabra and Shatila multiplied by a million," in reference to the infamous 1982 massacre of Palestinians in the Lebanese refugee camps, perpetrated by a Christian militia allied with Israel. Shenhav also quotes poet Eliaz Cohen, resident of Gush Etzion, as saying: "Just as I have a right of return to Kfar Etzion, there's no reason that Palestinians from Nablus shouldn't have a right of return to Jaffa."

Shenhav claims that the transition to one-state thinking will redraw the Israeli political map, currently defined by the right's and the left's positions toward Israel's future role in the Palestinian territories. Although it's far too early to speak of a movement, both left and right have begun realigning themselves: Leftists are beginning to use the racist jargon of demographics, while a new settler group calls for a one-state solution -- with the right of return to boot. Quite apart from them, firebrand Likud Knesset member Tzipi Hotovely calls for the phased admission of West Bank Palestinians as Israeli citizens.

Curiously for a decidedly left-wing manifesto, Shenhav rejects out of hand the "one man, one vote," "state of all its citizens" model as an alternative to a two-state solution.

This model, he says, "presumes the existence of a homogenous population motivated by individual interests and ignores the fact that most people in the contested space are religious nationalists with tremendous differences within both the Israeli and Palestinian communities." He opts instead for a consociational democracy: a system in which religious, cultural, national, and economic considerations will be balanced by mutual agreement, within a power-sharing government.

But Shenhav acknowledges it would be folly to accompany such a fundamental shift in conceptualizing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict with full-fledged political programs. His book is a conversation starter; it asks many more questions than it gives answers. Its primary contribution is to suggest that recalibrating our understanding of the conflict's creation to 1948, in time and space, could provide more opportunities to address Israeli and Palestinian ills than the 1967 paradigm. The hesitance to offer concrete programs, common to most one-state articles, underscores that it's far too early to speak of a school of thought or a movement; but their very appearance already indicates that, as attempts to reach a two-state solution are dying down, more inclusive, far-reaching alternatives are taking shape.

MUSA AL-SHAER/AFP/Getty Images

 

Dmitry Reider is an Israeli journalist whose work has appeared in the Jerusalem Post, Haaretz, and the Guardian. He co-authors the foreign-affairs blog Kav Hutz and also blogs in English here.

MARCOSPAULO

4:31 PM ET

March 31, 2010

I wonder when we will see

I wonder when we will see peace finally? It's amazing how these people just vivme in conflict and many of them caused by an extremely backward and outdated mentality.

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GRANT

8:06 PM ET

March 31, 2010

I'll support anything that

I'll support anything that works, but as long as the elites of Jewish Israel are primarily committed to the idea of a 'Jewish' Israel then they're doomed to failure. If they want a Jewish Israel they'll need to give up a large amount of land that they're unwilling to or they need to somehow dramatically increase Jewish demographics*.

*Why am I reminded of the British argument that women must marry and have children 'For the Empire!'?

 

SABABA03

8:39 PM ET

March 31, 2010

This solution have been tried and falied

The author needs to look at the tumultuous Judea-Islam relationship for past 1400 years, where Jews had lived throughout Arab & Islamic countries on the same "bi-national" format, where they were the minorities. Subjugated to discriminations, dhimmi and unfair taxes.

It was tried not only in one state, but 57 states. As mentioned above, not 62 years, but 1375 years. All had failed. So why this author thinks, knowing full well that, in 10 years, Jews will (again) be the minority in their own country, and certain to go back to same failed conditions, will agree to so called "bi National" crap

No Jew in his right mind will accept such paradigm

Best solution is 3 state solution.
State of Palestine - West Bank
State Gaza - Gaza
Israel

 

BUDAHH

8:04 AM ET

April 1, 2010

THe solution

If you ask me we need to seperate the populations completly, the palestinians should not be in Friction with settlers or the IDF, that is the first step.

We seperated from gaza and look what happened, they had a chance to show the world how they can make a state and bring a better life and future to the region, but they chose to buy missiles and weapons and attack Israel for no reason.
Ironiacally the only reason the hamas didn't take over in the west bank is because of IDC presence.

Israel should do this(withdraw nad seperate itself) unilatterally with or without an agreement. Then we need to show good will on both sides, there should be massive investment into building institutions and schools in the west bank and gaza, ones that teach tolerance and not praisal of the Shahid and struggle, this will all be done under the supervision of the international community. If there will be no terror Israel will be willing to make concessions in accordance with camp david maybe even more for real peace, the refugees will get money and the right of return to palestine not israel.

I think after a generation or so of being seperated and raising the quality of life for both people we can start talking about real peace, first coexistance than peace.

The palestinians must stop all terror from gaza and the fatach and hamas must be united, all palestinians must be united otherwise there will be three states not two, and unfortunately that seems to be the case.
Jerusalem is a problem because of the proximity of the neighborhoods but we will find a creative solution.

we need brave leaders on both sides who are willing to take risks with the backing of the international community and the arab world should take a big part of making peace for the palestinians.

This is all nice in theory and I think that we should seperate as a first step before anything and if israel will be attacked after it withdraws there will be harsh consequences for the attackers, this is a process which will take 20 years and not 2 year slike obama wants and we have to make the conflice smaller and smaller untill we can reach peace, but who knows, hopefully the palestinians will realize that violence will not get them anywhere and Israelis for the most part know and are willing to give up a lot for real peace

 

CITYZEN

9:31 AM ET

April 1, 2010

Yes, look at Gaza

The Israelis withdrew, but maintained a blockade of Gaza, with the collusion of Mubarak (Cooties Be Unto Him). Denied access to the world, the Gazans were expected to die quietly? If Jews were in a similar situation anywhere in the world, can you imagine the outcry?

The question is, "If Israel intends to ever live in peace with its neighbors, would it be doing now?"

Peace, Shalom, Salam, Paix, M61P....

 

BUDAHH

10:25 AM ET

April 1, 2010

Cityzen

For your information there was no blockade on Gaza whatsoever while there were no attacks on the passages, once they started attcking the passages we closed them for any goods besides humanatarian needs such as food medicine and basic supplies, why should we give more than that to those who attck us and want us dead, we disengaged from gaza unilaterally to the full international boarder, why would they attck us why, 8000 missiles, And suppose we give gaza anything they want, they are smuggeling weapons and are arming to go to war against us, we will not blockade or fie anything back if they do not attck us.

they had the chance for a fresh start make a better future and show the world they can rule themselves and move forword instead they chose to buy weapons and be sponsored by Iran, the blame is on them

 

MR.GERRY D

11:33 AM ET

April 1, 2010

Sami...You have it right...

...not much I can add...there will be no peace...like every people(governments) there are rogues who gain control..I don't think the Jews are the problem any more that the Palestinians are the problem...the situation is simply greed, controlled by a rogue government (Israel) and rogue entities in the Palestinian Organization. These people will never go away, there is too much at stake...MONEY and POWER are the drug(s) of dictators...

I have met, and have friends form both Israel and Palestine. I find both warm and open people...the real problem is the rogue elements on both sides...I think if the "people" take control of their affairs the violence will stop...and a vague hope of peace may prevail...but the destruction of the governments of both entities need to be dismantles and rebuild with the idea that people are people and there are no "chosen" people anywhere...the very idea of being "chosen" is in itself a basis for a great deal of the violence and unwillingness to think clearly without the insane attitude of "I'm special, and everyone else is less..."

 

MR.GERRY D

11:33 AM ET

April 1, 2010

Sami...You have it right...

...not much I can add...there will be no peace...like every people(governments) there are rogues who gain control..I don't think the Jews are the problem any more that the Palestinians are the problem...the situation is simply greed, controlled by a rogue government (Israel) and rogue entities in the Palestinian Organization. These people will never go away, there is too much at stake...MONEY and POWER are the drug(s) of dictators...

I have met, and have friends form both Israel and Palestine. I find both warm and open people...the real problem is the rogue elements on both sides...I think if the "people" take control of their affairs the violence will stop...and a vague hope of peace may prevail...but the destruction of the governments of both entities need to be dismantles and rebuild with the idea that people are people and there are no "chosen" people anywhere...the very idea of being "chosen" is in itself a basis for a great deal of the violence and unwillingness to think clearly without the insane attitude of "I'm special, and everyone else is less..."

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

11:44 AM ET

April 1, 2010

RIGHT ON! -- The two-state solution has become impossible

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0914/p09s01-coop.html

Palestine: democracy not Zionism

A decent two-state solution to the 'Palestinian problem' has become impossible.

By John V. Whitbeck / September 14, 2007
Jeddah, saudi arabia

With some sort of "meeting" or "conference" to kick start the peace process now being touted by the Bush administration, there is at least the appearance of an understanding in Washington of the importance for the region and the world of solving the "Palestinian problem."

However, if this problem is ever to be solved, it must be redefined. Those who truly seek justice and peace in the Middle East must dare to speak openly and honestly of the "Zionism problem" – and then to draw the moral, ethical, and practical conclusions that follow.

When South Africa was under a racial-supremacist, settler-colonial regime, the world recognized that the problem was the ideology and political system of the state. Anyone outside the country who referred to the "black problem" or the "native problem" (or, for that matter, to the "white problem") would instantly have been branded a racist.

The world also recognized that the solution to that problem could not be found either in "separation" (apartheid in Afrikaans) and scattered native reservations (called "independent states" by the South African regime and Bantustans by the rest of the world) or in driving the settler-colonial group in power into the sea. Rather, the solution had to be found – and to almost universal satisfaction was found – in democracy, in white South Africans growing out of their racial-supremacist ideology and political system and accepting that their interests and their children's futures would be best served in a democratic, non-racist state with equal rights for all who live there.

The solution for the land which, until it was literally wiped off the map in 1948, was called Palestine is the same. It can only be democracy.

The ever-receding "political horizon" for a decent two-state solution, which, on the ground, becomes less practical with each passing year of expanding settlements, bypass roads, and walls, is weighed down by a multitude of excruciatingly difficult "final status" issues. Israeli governments have consistently refused to discuss these final-status issues seriously, preferring to postpone them to the end of a road which is never reached – and which, almost certainly, is intended never to be reached.

Just as marriage is vastly less complicated than divorce, democracy is vastly less complicated than partition. A democratic post-Zionist solution would not require any borders to be agreed, any division of Jerusalem, anyone to move from his current home, or any assets to be evaluated and apportioned. Full rights of citizenship would simply be extended to all the surviving natives still living in the country, as happened in the United States in the early 20th century and in South Africa in the late 20th century.

The obstacle to such a simple – and morally unimpeachable – solution is, of course, intellectual and psychological. Traumatized by the Holocaust and perceived insecurity as a Jewish island in an Arab sea, Israelis have immense psychological problems in coming to grips with the practical impossibility of sustaining forever what most of mankind views as a racial-supremacist, settler-colonial regime founded upon the ethnic cleansing of an indigenous population.

Indeed, Israelis have placed themselves in a virtually impossible situation. To taste its bitter essence, Americans might try to imagine what life in their country would be like if the European settlers had not virtually exterminated the indigenous population and if almost half of today's American population were Indians, without basic human rights, impoverished, smoldering with resentment, and visible every day as the inescapable living evidence of the injustice inflicted on their ancestors.

This would not be a pleasant society in which to live. Both colonizers and colonized would be progressively degraded and dehumanized. The colonizers could, rationally, conclude that they could never be forgiven by those they had dispossessed and that no "solution" was imaginable. So it has been, and continues to be, in the lands under Israeli rule.

Perhaps the coming "meeting" or "conference" will be the last gasp of the fruitless pursuit of a separation-based solution. Perhaps those who care about justice and peace and believe in democracy can then find ways to stimulate Israelis to move beyond Zionist ideology toward a more humane, hopeful, and democratic view of present realities and future possibilities.

No one would suggest that the moral, ethical, and intellectual transformation necessary to achieve a decent one-state solution will be easy. However, more and more people now recognize that a decent two-state solution has become impossible.

It is surely time for concerned people everywhere – and particularly for Americans – to imagine a better way, to encourage Israelis to imagine a better way, and to help both Israelis and Palestinians to achieve it. It is surely time to seriously consider democracy and to give it a chance.

• John V. Whitbeck, an international lawyer who has advised the Palestinian negotiating team in negotiations with Israel, is author of "The World According to Whitbeck."

 

OPEMILY

3:57 PM ET

April 11, 2010

In that case

If the thought process is correct- in 3000 years the Palestinians can come in and throw out Jews or whoever else is living there, claiming it was there land that was taken away from them and they have been thinking about for centuries.

In fact- Palestinians should start saying "Next Year in Jerusalem" just to further highlight the hypocrisy of the whole thing.

 

ROGER TUCKER

11:57 AM ET

April 1, 2010

The time for a one state solution is now, before it's too late

Dmitry, you didn't do a very thorough search for One State articles. Here are two collections that might interest you and your readers.

http://sites.google.com/site/onedemocraticstatesite/archives/articles-advocating-one-state

[There are large gaps, including recent articles, because there were getting to be so many that I stopped posting the links. However, the trend is obvious and exponential.]

http://oss.internetactivist.org/PUOSA.html

Roger Tucker
http://onestate.info

 

D.REIDER

12:17 PM ET

April 1, 2010

Thanks for that, I'll

Thanks for that, I'll definitely add both links on my blog. About my list - I probably should've specified I was talking about Israeli mainstream media, but it's a pretty rough sample. Like you said, though, the trend remains the same - a steep rise, especially as physical violence subsided but the political predicament grew worse.

 

ROGER TUCKER

12:50 PM ET

April 1, 2010

Re: consociational

I meant to say something about the notion of a "consociational" democracy. The word says it all. I challenge anyone to pronounce it. The same could be said of any tortuous attempt to hedge about the constitutional basis of the inevitable new state - if it isn't kept simple then it will just introduce unnecessary and divisive complexity.

I'm sure that when de Clerk and the ANC were negotiating post-Apartheid South Africa various "binational" proposals were bruited about. Fortunately they decided to just go for the gold standard - a secular democracy based on the principle of one citizen-one vote. It's the variation of Occam's Razor known as KISS. And obviously there would have to be some variation of the So. African innovation called Truth and Reconciliation proceedings.

Give it another try - say the word "consociational" aloud.

Roger Tucker
http://onestate.info

 

D.REIDER

5:49 AM ET

April 2, 2010

One man one vote

I respectfully disagree. In a situation where you have two nearly same-sized group with strong collective identities and collective fears, it's absolutely imperative to allow these identities secured and expressed through state institutions; not to mention the extreme inequality in financial well-being and in public service / key professions representation will need some sort of group-based action, whether you call it "consociational" or not. Plus, the word for "consociational" doesn't sound half as weird in Hebrew (or Arabic, to my knowledge) ;)

 

ISRAFEL

12:01 PM ET

April 1, 2010

Interesting indeed

Definitely a kind of thinking on the issue that I don't come across very often. Perhaps my own fault, perhaps not, but the notion that a good deal of resistance comes from completely different perceptions of the time frame of the conflict is intriguing.

Personally I suspect that a federalised one state solution will end up being the only way to go, but I'm very aware that I could learn a lot more about the Israel-Palestine conflict than I currently know.

 

CHINSHIHTANG

12:27 AM ET

April 6, 2010

Federalized one-state

I think you're exactly right, but is the federal solution to be based on geography or on ethnic/religious identity? On this one, I'd look to the "Israeli Arabs" to show us the moral high ground. How would they want to participate?

 

SMCI60652

1:14 PM ET

April 1, 2010

As long as compromise is a Sin...

against your God and/or your People, this conflict isn't going anywhere.

If one side sees you as a Munafiq, or the other side as a Boged you can't get anything meaningful accomplished.

Everything else is irrelevant and empty talk, unless this most central understanding is addressed.

 

DAVE123

4:11 PM ET

April 1, 2010

This article must be an April

This article must be an April Fools joke.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

7:46 PM ET

April 1, 2010

Those who truly seek justice

Those who truly seek justice and peace in the Middle East must dare to speak openly and honestly of the "Zionism problem" – and then to draw the moral, ethical, and practical conclusions that follow.

When South Africa was under a racial-supremacist, settler-colonial regime, the world recognized that the problem was the ideology and political system of the state. Anyone outside the country who referred to the "black problem" or the "native problem" (or, for that matter, to the "white problem") would instantly have been branded a racist.

The world also recognized that the solution to that problem could not be found either in "separation" (apartheid in Afrikaans) and scattered native reservations (called "independent states" by the South African regime and Bantustans by the rest of the world) or in driving the settler-colonial group in power into the sea. Rather, the solution had to be found – and to almost universal satisfaction was found – in democracy, in white South Africans growing out of their racial-supremacist ideology and political system and accepting that their interests and their children's futures would be best served in a democratic, non-racist state with equal rights for all who live there.

The solution for the land which, until it was literally wiped off the map in 1948, was called Palestine is the same. It can only be democracy.

The ever-receding "political horizon" for a decent two-state solution, which, on the ground, becomes less practical with each passing year of expanding settlements, bypass roads, and walls, is weighed down by a multitude of excruciatingly difficult "final status" issues. Israeli governments have consistently refused to discuss these final-status issues seriously, preferring to postpone them to the end of a road which is never reached – and which, almost certainly, is intended never to be reached.

Just as marriage is vastly less complicated than divorce, democracy is vastly less complicated than partition. A democratic post-Zionist solution would not require any borders to be agreed, any division of Jerusalem, anyone to move from his current home, or any assets to be evaluated and apportioned. Full rights of citizenship would simply be extended to all the surviving natives still living in the country, as happened in the United States in the early 20th century and in South Africa in the late 20th century.

The obstacle to such a simple – and morally unimpeachable – solution is, of course, intellectual and psychological. Traumatized by the Holocaust and perceived insecurity as a Jewish island in an Arab sea, Israelis have immense psychological problems in coming to grips with the practical impossibility of sustaining forever what most of mankind views as a racial-supremacist, settler-colonial regime founded upon the ethnic cleansing of an indigenous population.

Indeed, Israelis have placed themselves in a virtually impossible situation. To taste its bitter essence, Americans might try to imagine what life in their country would be like if the European settlers had not virtually exterminated the indigenous population and if almost half of today's American population were Indians, without basic human rights, impoverished, smoldering with resentment, and visible every day as the inescapable living evidence of the injustice inflicted on their ancestors.

This would not be a pleasant society in which to live. Both colonizers and colonized would be progressively degraded and dehumanized. The colonizers could, rationally, conclude that they could never be forgiven by those they had dispossessed and that no "solution" was imaginable. So it has been, and continues to be, in the lands under Israeli rule.

Perhaps the coming "meeting" or "conference" will be the last gasp of the fruitless pursuit of a separation-based solution. Perhaps those who care about justice and peace and believe in democracy can then find ways to stimulate Israelis to move beyond Zionist ideology toward a more humane, hopeful, and democratic view of present realities and future possibilities.

No one would suggest that the moral, ethical, and intellectual transformation necessary to achieve a decent one-state solution will be easy. However, more and more people now recognize that a decent two-state solution has become impossible.

It is surely time for concerned people everywhere – and particularly for Americans – to imagine a better way, to encourage Israelis to imagine a better way, and to help both Israelis and Palestinians to achieve it. It is surely time to seriously consider democracy and to give it a chance.

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

12:09 PM ET

April 2, 2010

What a life!

One state, two states; old people talking while children are deprived of their childhood and adolescence. Imagine you are a 15 year old Palestinian whose school was levelled fourteen months ago, what kind of existence have you endured since you took your first steps, and what lies before you today?

A space must be made for the Palestinians; they must have land, water and security, a space where the world can help them with more than blood donations and humanitarian aid. It should be a priority for the UN. The rest is fiddling and footering while a time bomb ticks away.

 

CHARLES MORGAN

4:27 PM ET

April 2, 2010

The Palestinians already have a country - Jordan

It's just like the illegal immigration of Mexicans to the U.S. The arabs want a better life for themselves and their families, which they can't get in their own countries. So they want to go to Israel for its paved roads, working government and judicial system, indoor plumbing, jobs.

But the arabs have 99.99% of the middle east. Isn't that enough for them?

Leave Israel alone.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

12:58 PM ET

April 5, 2010

J Thomas

"If Israel suddenly or gradually got a lot more arab citizens, wouldn't they naturally do the apartheid more intensely?"

Not if US taxpayers don't underwrite settlements and Israeli military to the tune of $4B per year or about 10 million US dollars per day.

If we cut off support to the Apartheid zionists, they will heel. We are the only reason they can run their Apartheid.

Right wing militant zionists are less than 1% of the US population but they sure have taken a lot of our $$$$$$$$ and sent them to Israel.

Plus a lot of US soldiers die becuase of the fact that we support these douchebags:

http://thehill.com/special-reports/homeland-security-january-2010/75531-when-troops-and-cia-officers-die-for-a-fantasy

 

SERVANTES

9:55 PM ET

April 29, 2010

I agree with you, Jordan is

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