I'm surprised these are "the worst immigrations laws," in the world. Are you sure? I read yesterday about some Palestinians getting killed trying to go from Gaza to Egypt.

Or there are no more harsher laws in Africa? or Burma, Asia, etc.?

As an Irish-American who lives in Arizona (since identifying your race seems part of comments) -- I expect my nation to control the Border; that's not the case.

As an Irish-American who has also lived overseas, I also expected that I was required to have proper visas and/or passports and that my ability to work in foreign countries was regulated.

If we dealt with those two issues: control the border and enforce our labor laws, 70% of this problem would be resolved -- but these laws are broken thousands of times a day, day after day.

As an Irish-American, btw, I also know there is often prejudice against immigrants --- there are quotas -- there is also ways to become a citizen.

My Irish father became a citizen by serving in the Army/Air Force in WW2. That made sense to me.

what we have here is the problem wherein capital is allowed free (or virtually free) access to markets whereas labor - people like you and me - are not. where capital flows - and it's flowing all the time; billions a day - labor has to follow: to work it, to turn it into cars and electronics, to count it, and to count the people counting it.

but, you know, labor can't follow. or it is strictly controlled. then, you've got a bit of a problem.

Draw a picture of your country.

What did you just draw? The borders.

Now erase the borders. You just erased your country.

A country without secure borders is not going to be a country for very long.

Do you find it too difficult to think about or discuss immigration policy?

Remember: Not to decide is to decide.

Your country is something very special and worth the effort of difficult discussion and difficult choices.

thats just insane

Great! So, we live in a country who is nothing like that, we don't send them to jail, we just build a wall...wtf?

My grandma just to say "Problem of many, consolation for fools".

I was born and raised in Miami. Having done so, I saw first hand the destruction that ruinous immigration policies can bring. Most of my childhood was spent attending schools that were bankrupt, overcrowded, asbestos laden, and devoid of any teachers who could get a job elsewhere. I lived through the Mariel Boatlift, the cocaine cowboys, and the Haitian gang drive-bys. I was driven from my hometown, like so many others, long ago.

Before you call me racist, listen to this. My stepfather was Venezuelan, and I loved him dearly. He was very proud to have migrated to America, legally, and had nothing but contempt for the illegals. He was also very ashamed that he did not speak English as well as he would have liked, and tried very hard to improve.

He knew, as do I, about the new breed of immigrant. Those seeking only to enrich themselves, without regard for the host countries, or their residents. Many years ago it was different. Immigrants strived to become like us, to fit in to our society and contribute. Now they don't care to assimilate our culture or customs, and demand that we accommodate them. These are NOT the immigrants of old. No wonder they march in the streets shouting and waving banners. We have given, and given and given more. Don't we dare stop now.

How foolish are our leaders, that they have given away the most valuable asset that we have, like some door prize to be discarded. Our government has failed us terribly, sadly, and completely. How stupid are the ideologues who cry 'bigot' at the most innocuous attempts to preserve our own society. Thank you Arizona, for shoving our faces towards the light. I know you will be trod upon for doing so. I only hope that it's not too late to open our eyes.

Undoubtedly America z the powerful nation in the world forever. At least next 100+yrs.Isn't it because of the American Ancestors idea of bringing industrious immigrants.

in simple, the peoples inability who can't compete with the citizens of world making them to cry and covering with illegal/race/immigrants issues.

Nothing can stop(not your fake crys/one Arizona racial feeling) if ur smart enough to live.

Looking at this, it's hard to believe that there was a time when Japan really was thought to be about to replace the U.S economically. You would think that these people would realize they have a longterm demographic problem and a system that encourages women to not work.

It's hard to read this fool. How can he seriously write a sentence that contradicts its premise so thoroughly?

"Although the country's aging population necessitates the importing of cheap labor, recently the Japanese government has sought to curtail immigration in an effort to shore up its unprecedentedly high unemployment figures."

So we need labor, but we have unprecedentedly high unemployment?

Politically correct streetcred is built up by blandly stating utter untruths. Doing this really well demands one shuts down the brain. Peter, here is a question for you: Why does the Japanese government want to "shore up" unemployment? What else do they want to shore up, Peter? Crime, poverty, and disease figures? I read what you write, but do you read what you write?

Nationalism has no historical basis.

Nationalism is Tribalism.

Nationalism is Fatherhood gone wild; Think of a father trying to “protect” his “family”.

Some simpletons may love Arizona; but Arizona does not love its simpletons back. Arizona is not a human being, Arizona does not have a human face, its sands, artificial cities and it’s collection of Simpletons and fathers gone wild.

Same applies to New White Jews (the East European Russian, Polak, American variety) who love Israel at the expense of stealing the homes, villages, water and the very life of the Palestinians who own these.

1. "New White Jews (the East European Russian, Polak, American variety) who love Israel at the expense of stealing the homes, villages, water and the very life of the Palestinians "

Aged Palestinians with their house keys whilst the thugs and thieves of Eastern Europe sit in their houses illegally and very very immorally:

http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr&q=palestine%20house%20keys&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

2. "you are happy when Muslims justify a 1000 years of theft by legitimizing their harebrained claims to Jerusalem"

Nonsense; Old Jews were defeated and killed by the Romans 2000 years ago, driven off the land or committed mass suicide (remember your Masada), or converted to Islam in the sweetness of time.

The New White Jews (the East European Russian, Polak, American variety) are NOT Semites, but East European Khazar converts to Judaism. Their claim to even an inch of Palestine complete nonsense and certainly harebrained.

Now to some facts:

I have to say there are a lot of inaccurate remarks. To say that illegal immigrants cause an increase in unemployment is not completely accurate. Most of the jobs performed by illegal immigrants are low skill jobs that most Americans would not do. But we do have illegal aliens that are high skill workers from Africa, Europe, Middle East, China, and India that do take jobs away from people that are in this country legally.

There are only three races White, Black and Indigenous this has been reclassified through history and they continue to debate this question of how many races excist. The determination of race classification comes down to if they use a historic, scientific and what type of scientific classification. The classification continues to evolve and many people continue to confuse Race and Ethnicity. Who ever said Jews can’t be White should take the time and do some research. I expect this classification to change again to another number.

Affirmative action was first established in Executive Order 10925, and was signed into law on March 6, 1961 directly it has nothing to do with illegal immigration but Illegal aliens do get protection under affirmative action.

Is their truth to the following?
Illegal aliens do get access to State and Federal aid. Even though illegal immigrants are not eligible to enroll in North Carolina’s Medicaid program, federal law requires treatment for anyone who needs emergency care. As a result, many illegals use Emergency Medicaid as their primary source of healthcare. Between 2001 and 2004 total spending on Emergency Medicaid services for illegal immigrants in North Carolina increased by 28 percent. State Medicaid spending for illegals more than doubled between 2000 and 2005, going from $25.8 million to $52.8 million.As much as two-thirds of total operating costs in some hospitals are for uncompensated care for illegal immigrants. North Carolina hospitals had more than $1.4 billion in unreimbursed costs in 2003. That is just in North Carolina.

One thing is for sure I find many people liberal and conservative making comments about the new Immigration law of Arizona. Interesting is they have not even read the law this in my view is not smart so here is the link. And Read it

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/2r/adopted/h.1070-se-maps.doc.htm

What is fascinating about these comments is how little the majority of them have to do with the actual article; the scarcity in logic is also jarring. This is about ILLEGAL immigration, not just immigration. Since I'm already here let me say this: "Jew" does not equate to "White". Judaism is a religion not a race. ANYONE can be Jewish. And indeed there are Jews of many races and ethnicities.

It is because when people talk about illegal immigration the focus is exclusively on "brown and black" people that the issue of racism comes up. It's as if there were no White illegal immigrants. The reality is that three are many. I don't hear anybody talking about closing the borders to illegal Swiss or Italian people. Or even Asians for that matter. Since "browns and blacks" are perceived as not belonging anyway - inferior - they are always the convenient pawns.

People emigrate illegally out of sheer desperation...you know, like the PILGRIMS did. And that desperation is often caused by capitalism and Western politics. If illegal commercial fishing is killing fishing industries in communities around the world - Nigeria's a great example, hell even Somalia - and local fishermen can no longer feed their families, what else are they supposed to do?? Furthermore, the browns and blacks typically emigrate illegally to nations they have a cultural connection with anyway! Remember colonialism??

It's always weird to see White guys shaking in their boots over the "browning" of the population. 1. White people were never a majority in the grand scheme of things. There was, is now, and will always be, far more colored folks in the world than white. 2. Higher demographics doesn't automatically translate into power. Clearly. So relax.

This is a nation of immigrants. It always will be.

I have a question for everybody that is on this website. What makes any immigration law good or bad?

Specifically with regard to the author and the examples provided what makes some immigration law good immigration law as suppose to bad immigration law.
I may not agree with the way some societies handle their own internal affairs. The question that should be asked is does any society have the right to impose strict laws based on any criteria established by the majority rule. If the answer to that question is yes then why have any issue with regard to any of the immigration laws passed by the majority.

If the answer is no then we have a dilemma, and must then ask ourselves the justification of Majority rule. Does any law that is past by the Majority rule need to be fully understood and scrutinized to determine it’s basis for legality. Should we then begin a careful analysis of all our laws?

In the grand scheme of things I really don’t think this is a White man vs. Brown/Black man thing. Economic times are tuff terrorism is on the rise and crime is up. People are frustrated and something needs to be done.

I for one must say. Let everybody in this country but let them in legally. I defiantly think creating a law that we will never enforce is not smart. Then I have to ask? Why create any law at all? Do we really have any immigration problem?

It's quite astonishing that a country like Italy with huge communities abroad - South America, USA, Australia to name a few- is now so harsh with immigration (to be honest it's mainly a smoke screen for political purposes)
Even more incredible is the vocal opinion of some self proclaimed Jew who should know better that Israel is mostly made of immigrants, arrived in recent years.
USA is 99% immigrants. I doubt all of them came because they where invited. And no, I don't believe that today's immigration is different than yesteryear's, as some commenter seem to suggest. Together with boatfulls of law abiding citizens, trying to build a better future for themselves and for the host nation, there were bad apples. And there will always be.
Now, as westerners, what do we expect? That people living in impoverished countries just sit there, and build our LCDs and sew our clothes for a coup of rice, forever? What would YOU do if you were in their shoes? Some says that they are taking jobs from legal citizens. True. But most part of the jobs we lost has been willingly "exported" to those countries.
Do you really believe that decades/centuries of exploitations would have had no consequences in the long run?

"Suffice it to say..."

Really? You're a journalist and this is how well you write? It's "sufficeth to say" or, in less archaic speak, "it suffices to say". Do you write "must of", too? Yeesh. When you can't write well, you lose credibility as a writer.

Nate 1129/Wow.just.. Why the heck do you bother... if Allangreen and the others choose to remain ignoramuses then so be it! Let them wallow in it. Cardensa you seem to have a problem with hiring immigrants even if they're who you are looking for because they are immigrants...You'd rather hire less qualified 'Americans'? Pity...
In any case who are the real Americans. Except for the American Indians who were exterminated at a horrific pace its still a wonder they still remain here and there, everyone else in America is an immigrant! The policy makers know better any way. What the heck do you think the whole green card lottery was for? To entice trained, skilled citizens of the world to America so that America will still maintain what started it in the first place: Immigrants. Get some education people.

I may not agree with the way some societies handle their own internal affairs. The question that should be asked is does any society have the right to impose strict laws based on any criteria established by the majority rule. If the answer to that question is yes then why have any issue with regard to any of the immigration laws passed by the majority.Sazkove kancelareIf the answer is no then we have a dilemma, and must then ask ourselves the justification of Majority rule. Does any law that is past by the Majority rule need to be fully understood and scrutinized to determine it’s basis for legality. Should we then begin a careful analysis of all our laws?