Whoa There, Rising Powers!

Brazil and Turkey's diplomatic forays may be annoying, but they also signal a huge shift in the way the world works. Is Obama paying attention?

BY JAMES TRAUB | MAY 25, 2010

Nor has Obama's proposed nuclear grand bargain inspired these states to reconsider their own policies. The U.S. administration is hoping to use the ongoing U.N. conference on the 1970 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty to gain widespread agreement to the so-called additional protocols, which mandate more intrusive inspections of nuclear facilities. Brazil and Argentina are the only signatories with nuclear enrichment plants who have not accepted the additional protocols (and Argentina has said it will agree as soon as Brazil does). During a discussion at the conference last week, the Brazilian delegate reiterated that adopting the additional protocols should be wholly voluntary, as Iran has insisted; he added that in any case non-nuclear-weapons states should not have to accept such restraints until those who have weapons agree to fully disarm.

It's tempting to dismiss much of this as mere histrionics, to be put aside when, for example, it comes times to vote on Security Council resolutions. There's no question that Brazil's interests, or Turkey's, overlap in many places with those of the U.S. and Europe; Turkey seeks nothing more ardently than full EU membership, for instance. But in many other places, interests diverge, and the middle powers are inclined to view the current world order as an instrument to advance Western designs, not theirs. Why should they have to accept a system that permits India, Israel, and Pakistan -- non-signatories of the NPT who happen to be American allies -- to have nuclear weapons while they have bound themselves not to? Why, for that matter, should they have to accept an American running the World Bank, and a Frenchman running the IMF?

The international system, which looked impregnable a decade ago, now seems increasingly ineffective and weak. "Both countries look at the global order and see the failings of the West," says Matias Spektor, a Brazil expert at the Council on Foreign Relations. "The West has been expanding the reach of its norms and its rules. But at the same time you've got Iraq, the financial crisis,  North Korea going nuclear, Iran, the EU imploding -- all while these emerging states have proved to be relatively steady." The perceived failure and injustice of the existing system didn't matter so much when those on the outside felt powerless. Now they feel, if anything, overly empowered, and are prepared for rhythmic diplomacy.

All this raises a fundamental question about President Obama's engagement policy. For all his efforts to improve America's international standing and to treat states, cultures, religions, international institutions, and everything else with due regard, Obama has found the world only slightly more tractable than George W. Bush did. Bush thought Turkey was a good friend until the Turks refused to let American troops pass through on the way to Iraq. Brazil was just the kind of country Obama had in mind when he argued that the U.S. could make real progress on nonproliferation by showing commitment on disarmament -- the bargain at the heart of the NPT. Obama has done the best he could, or feels he can, given the restraints imposed by a hawkish Congress and a skeptical public. And Brazil hasn't budged an inch.

Engagement, it turns out, is a weaker currency than Obama had thought. His diplomatic investments have been too modest to win compliance even from the major democratic states in the developing world that would seem to have the most in common with the United States. And the reason is that price of compliance has gone way up as those nations have grown in self-confidence. U.S. presidents will have to learn to expect less.

Or perhaps they'll need to spend more. For Obama, the really important question is whether he should reconcile himself to an unavoidable clash of interests with rising powers, or try to win them over by offering a deeper and more substantive kind of engagement -- for example, by pushing for a greater democratization of the institutions from which those states now feel excluded. It may be that the only chance to get Brazil to act more like a global citizen is to treat it like one.

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James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

ALARMRAGE

10:46 PM ET

May 25, 2010

Why

would two powers which

“tend to view coercive measures of any kind imposed by the West as a violation of state sovereignty.“

get involved in a coercive diplomatic effort to complicate a sovereign state's nuclear programme by asking it to go through the hassle of shipping uranium abroad etc? It doesn't sound much like non-interference to me, it sounds like a (albeit somewhat limited) concession that Iran deserves interference, and indeed it looks like complicity in said interference.

 

GEORGEKZ

11:10 PM ET

May 25, 2010

Who on earth said that

Who on earth said that diplomacy is a no-brainer? It is surprising to hear that the Obama administration has been discovering with slight astonishment that Turkey is not as compliant as it was supposed to be, and Brazil is trying to promote its own interests starkly different from the American perception of such interests. America's fixation on Iran has become a commonplace joke and is the best way to make out of the US a toy easy to manipulate. The US CANNOT and WILL NOT BE ABLE at any time in the future to impose its will on the others. Or will it be forced to play a game of concessions, so that the final round will not be worth powder and stuff, and the victory will be clearly Pyrrhic. Mr Traub's own perception of this highly appreciated public debate over Iran is rather ambiguous: he has started to scold the restive Brazil and Turkey for their disobediance, and then moved on to the pathetic conclusion: why not treating Brazil like a full-fledged global citizen? I am not sure America and its brightest minds have a clear idea of what they want from and for Iran. Non-proliferation is a noble cause, but it cannot boil down to just simply dragging Iran kicking and screaming to the negotiating table and making it allow IAEA into its territory. Diplomacy should be multi-facetted, otherwise it is no more diplomacy, but a stupid game practiced by those who think they are almighty unless they finally discover that the momentum has been irreversibly lost. It's too early to speak of a possible 'alliance' between America and Iran, but some step of reconciliation should be made in any case. Radicalism is just one of the political ideologies, in the same row as liberalism, and will be discarded as soon as it serves no longer a certain goal. Fighting radicalism is not declaring it 'the universal evil', 'the ideology of the axe of evil' or something like that. It is only about encouraging its further spread. Deeds speak louder than words, and in the Iranian affair we have had only words so far.

 

DIODORUS

8:37 AM ET

May 26, 2010

Re:

Very good comment, George.

I must say, however, that we are very far from a national consensus regarding coming closer to Iran here in Brazil. We have but a few commercial interests there, and Iran´s political scenario is very shifty, to say the least.

I have been seeing many US journalistic pieces portraiting Brazil almost as an anti-Western country, or as a dwarf believing that he is a mighty giant, but what ultimately guides our diplomacy is, I believe, the will to expand the rule of international laws to the world arena. It´s a kind of behaviour like "I want for them what I want for myself". I also think that´s the cause why we succeeded in this particular matter, because it tends, as some people say, to improve "moral power" - I particularly prefer considering that acting like this is trying to put some reason into a vastly macchiavellian conundrum.

It´s not a matter of ideological filiation: we are definitively not like Venezuela or Iran. We are finally consolidating a full-fledged democracy and some macroeconomic conditions to sustain growth for a little while longer. US is a partner we cannot afford to disregard, but, as equal international law subjects, we will eventually disagree in some matters. Well, if that fact surprises so much some US analysts, that´s because they have been looking exclusively to Europe for way too much time. And choosing to side unconditionally with a number of troublesome nations.

In Brazil, we hail the new international order in formation, or so I think. We hope the result of this process will be better international politics, based less on brute force and more on common understanding. It´s idealistic, but... well, aren´t US dearest values too?

 

DECONSTRUCTOR

4:47 AM ET

May 26, 2010

correction

"The Obama administration repudiated the deal, and the U.N. Security Council went ahead and passed a new round of sanctions." Is it a correct statement? Did the UN SC pass a new resolution on Iran yet?

 

ROZBAT

7:08 AM ET

May 26, 2010

our Relations with ?ran and Russia

hi from Turkey . i think our foreign relations of Russia and ?ran should be the important with E.U . also this is our goal the E.U. because our relations of the E.U are so messy. since 1996 we are the member of E.U's trade union but we are not a member of the E.U. E.U have to say truts YES or NO. if some big Euripion powers doesn't wanna see the Turkey of member of E.U in the future should be say clearly. . our Economic capacity better than the Bulgarian and Romanian's economic capacity but that states member of the E.U since early 2007 . i respect our goverment(Recep Tayyip Erdo?an and staff) that policy. also that policy sending clear message the E.U especially (fra- germany empire). we are saying that we are big nations there are so many options in the table alternative the E.U.

 

JKOLAK

12:21 PM ET

May 26, 2010

Most solidly founded democracies in the developing world?

I'd think Turkey's ruling party is dangerously experimenting with Islamic fundamentalism which doesn't put them that far from Iran in terms of future possibilities.

 

SIR_MIXXALOT

4:58 PM ET

May 26, 2010

former CIA official on the Turket Brazil deal

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Global-Viewpoint/2010/0524/Former-CIA-officer-on-Iran-Brazil-and-Turkey-are-vital-checks-and-balances

Former CIA officer on Iran: Brazil and Turkey are vital checks and balances

Shouldn’t the world welcome the actions of two significant, responsible, democratic, and rational states to intervene and help check the foolishnesses of decades of US policy on Iran?

By Graham E. Fuller
posted May 24, 2010 at 1:14 pm EDT
Washington —

If Washington thinks it now faces complications on getting United Nations Security Council sanctions against Iran, that’s not the half of it. A greater obstacle is the subtle change introduced into international power relationships by the actions of Brazil and Turkey that has accompanied it.

These two medium-size powers, Brazil and Turkey, have just challenged the guiding hand of Washington in determining nuclear strategy towards Iran. They undertook their own initiative to persuade Iran to accede to a deal on the handling of nuclear fuel issues. Not only was that initiative entirely independent, it moved ahead in the face of fairly crude American warnings to both states not to contemplate it – even though it closely paralleled one offered to Iran last year that fell through, mainly due to Iranian maneuvering and its fundamental distrust of Washington’s intent and blustering style.

Adding insult to injury, Brazilian President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan both had the temerity to actually succeed in their negotiations with Iran while Washington was publicly predicting their certain (and hoped for) failure.

Are the Iranians simply engaging in another con game, playing for time – a maneuver at which they excel? Or has something more profound taken place?

First, it is not only the terms of the deal that matter, but the messengers and atmospherics. Washington for decades has dealt with Iran – almost always indirectly – with considerable truculence and belligerence as the background music to “negotiations.” This is business as usual – the world’s sole superpower demanding others to agree to its strategy of the moment.

When Mr. Lula and Mr. Erdogan came to Tehran, the game was entirely different. It wasn’t the content so much as the negotiators, the venue, and the atmospherics. Tehran did not feel this time that it was acceding to superpower pressure, but to a reasoned and respectful request by two significant peer states in the world with no record of imperialism in Iran. In one sense, the deal was almost bound to succeed. What Iran wants as much as anything in this world is to blunt US dominance of the international order, and especially its ability to dictate terms in the Middle East.

If Iran is to yield at all on nuclear policy, what better device than to accede to two respected and successful states that were themselves defying Washington’s wishes in even attempting negotiations? If Tehran had refused that offer, it might have torpedoed the very concept of independent alternative, non-American efforts in international strategy. It made all the sense in the world for Iran to say “yes” this time to this combination of approach.

The same goes for China and Russia. After the Lula-Erdogan success, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton immediately proclaimed her own success at garnering Russian and Chinese support for enhanced sanctions against Iran – a stunningly insulting response to the remarkable accomplishment of Brazilian and Turkish negotiation. These states are, after all, immensely important to US regional and global interests. To blow them off like that was a major blunder, not just in terms of Iran, but in broader global strategy. The rest of the world has surely taken further negative note that Washington’s game remains depressingly familiar.

But do we really believe Clinton has in fact garnered Russian and Chinese support? Just as Tehran had every incentive to accept a proposal from “equals,” offered with respect instead of bluster and threats, so too Russia and China have every reason to welcome this initiative from Brazil and Turkey. Yes, the terms of the agreement do matter somewhat, but what is far more important for them is the slow but inexorable decay of US ability to deliver international diktats and to have its way. This is what Chinese and Russian foreign-policy strategy is all about. Neither of these countries will, in the end, permit the US hard-line approach to win out over the Brazilian-Turkish one in the Security Council, even if the Brazilian-Turkish deal requires a little tweaking. Russia and China champion the emergence of multiple sources of global power and influence that chip away at dying American unipolar power.

China and Russia, of course, represent the alternative polarity in the emerging struggle to end American hegemony in international affairs. But of greater moment, they now witness the political center in international politics shifting away from Washington as well. These two countries that defied American wishes are not just some Third World rabble-rousers scoring cheap points off the US. They are two major countries that are supposedly close friends of the US This makes the affront even crueler.

These events are profound signs of the times. The problem with unipolar power is that without checks and balances it invariably becomes subject to error and foolishness. On occasion, Americans actually believe in checks and balances when it comes to our own Constitution. Microsoft may be a great corporation, but nobody wants it to have a monopoly on IT.

Similarly in the world, international checks and balances are valuable safety valves. When Washington moves into its fourth decade of paralysis and incompetence in handling Iran, still unable even to speak to it – just as it cannot bring itself to talk to Cuba after 50 years – it has exacerbated the problem, strengthened Iran and the forces of radicalism in the Middle East, polarized emotions and, worst, failed in all respects. Shouldn’t the world welcome the actions of two significant, responsible, democratic, and rational states to intervene and help check the foolishnesses of decades of US policy? That is what checks and balances are all about and why the center is shifting.

And, who knows? “Rogue states” – a term beloved in Washington in reference to recalcitrant countries that don’t toe the Washington line – may more readily come to accede to new approaches free of the old imperial techniques of interventionism and ultimatums. Meanwhile, the US is rapidly running the risk of becoming its own “failed state” in terms of being able to exercise competent and effective international leadership since the fall of the Soviet Union.

Graham E. Fuller is the former vice chairman of the National Intelligence Council at the CIA and author of numerous books on international politics, including the forthcoming “A World Without Islam” (August 2010).

 

DEFANNIN

2:03 AM ET

May 27, 2010

Basic Question

If Iran gets the bomb, and it looks like it will, then what? Does the world end tomorrow? Will they nuke the US? Saudi Arabia? Israel? Iraq? We once went to war to prevent WMD's in Iraq, there were none. The US is once again saber rattling but why? What American interest are in jeopardy that we can't protect. Obama has already said all that needs to be said use a nuke and we will fry you.