Drone Wars

The Obama administration won't tell the truth about America's new favorite weapon -- but that doesn't mean its critics are right.

BY C. CHRISTINE FAIR | MAY 28, 2010

It's been a bad week for drones. On Friday, U.N. official Philip Alston announced he would be asking the United States to move the controversial, Central Intelligence Agency-run program under the aegis of the military, and international law. He joins a growing chorus of people opposed to the use of drone airstrikes to target militants ensconced in Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), on legal, humanitarian, and operational grounds. (Alston is at least more informed than most drone foes in that he recognizes that the drone strikes in Pakistan's FATA are CIA-led covert operations rather than "military strikes.")

The anti-drone argument goes like this: Because drone attacks kill innocent civilians and violate Pakistan's sovereignty, they are deeply and universally despised by Pakistanis, and contribute to deepening anti-U.S. sentiment in the country -- enmity that could boost terrorist organizations' recruitment and eventually force Pakistan's military and civilian leaders to abandon their cooperation with the United States.

During his testimony before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee in May 2009, David Kilcullen, a former counterinsurgency advisor to Centcom commander Gen. David Petraeus, said it was time for the United States to "call off the drones." Later that month, Kilcullen and Andrew M. Exum, who served as an Army Ranger in Iraq and Afghanistan from 2002 to 2004, published a provocative editorial in the New York Times, titled "Death From Above: Outrage from Below," in which they estimated that over the "past three years" drones had killed just 14 "terrorist leaders" at the price of some 700 civilian lives. "This is 50 civilians for every militant killed," they wrote, "a hit rate of 2 percent." Their conclusion? Drone strikes produce more terrorists than they eliminate-an assertion that has become an article of faith among drone-strike opponents.

It would be a damning argument -- if the data weren't simply bogus. The only publicly available civilian casualty figures for drone strikes in Pakistan come from their targets: the Pakistani Taliban, which report the alleged numbers to the Pakistani press, which dutifully publishes the fiction. No one has independently verified the Taliban's reports -- journalists cannot travel to FATA to confirm the deaths, and the CIA will not even acknowledge the drone program exists, much less discuss its results. But high-level Pakistani officials have conceded to me that very few civilians have been killed by drones and their innocence is often debatable. U.S. officials who are knowledgeable of the program report similar findings. In fact, since January 1 there has not been one confirmed civilian casualty from drone strikes in FATA.

Not only do drone opponents rely upon these fictitious reports of civilian casualties, they also tend to conflate drone strikes in Pakistan with air strikes in Afghanistan, lumping the two related but very different battlefields together as one contiguous theater. They also conflate different kinds of air strikes within Afghanistan.

These distinctions matter, a lot. In Afghanistan, it is an ignominious truth that hundreds of civilians are killed in NATO airstrikes every year. But most of the civilian casualties in Afghanistan have not stemmed from pre-planned, intelligence-led attacks; rather, civilians are most likely to die when troops come into contact with the enemy and subsequently request air support. This is because when it comes to air strikes, NATO forces in Afghanistan have a limited range of air assets at their disposal. As a result, when troops come into contact with insurgents and call for  air support, they get the ordinance that is available, not the firepower that would be best suited to their needs. Sometimes large bombs are dropped when smaller ones would have been better, and the risk of civilian casualties increases accordingly.

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C. Christine Fair is an assistant professor in the Security Studies Program at Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service.

RETEP

4:16 PM ET

May 29, 2010

Drone Wars

“It would be a damning argument -- if the data weren't simply bogus”

Whose data, the US military or the Pakistani military?

One presumes that while the data on civilian deaths is disputed, it is acceptable to debate the morality of targeted assassination. Is it also acceptable to debate the legitimacy of the argument that the undisputed secrecy surrounding this subject, doesn't give much credibility to an argument that because there is next to no such information, then its credible to argue that the policy is just fine. That argument is just a little bit to bizzare for me to get my head around

And regarding the “fictitious reports of civilian casualties” I wont embarrass the writer, by providing examples of the US military being caught out having issued “fictitious reports of civilian casualties” its almost become a tradition in the US military.

And regarding Pakistans apparent compliance in the strikes, I understood that this wasnt an equal partnership and the pressure both financial and outright threats by the US hardly make this a credible argument. I dont recall the US media giving much credibility to hostages in video releases that may make a series of claims, I think this is referred to a coercion.

Anyway as the whole policy is just fine and dandy we all wait with baited breath for the US military sponsored independent research on just how many civilians have been evaporated, which will placate everyones concerns, because after all there is nothing to hide, and this will finally expunge the view, that the secrecy and its use that lack of evidence in itself, is sufficient argument, for everyone to rest easy on this topic. Then again could one presume that as civilian casualties are not a priority of the US military nor the administration, then this will all remain conveniently clouded in secrecy....

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MOHAMMAD MILAD SEKANDASRY

1:36 AM ET

May 30, 2010

New Terrorist

Have people ever thought that among them are innocent people also living that will die in drone war, a person who loses his son - mother - father - family, will continue their life like this and will forget what ever happen???? No never he will take weapon and the person who made him terrorist from innocent person will be you people......

 

MOHAMMAD MILAD SEKANDASRY

1:36 AM ET

May 30, 2010

New Terrorist

Have you people ever thought that among them are innocent people also living that will die in drone war, a person who loses his son - mother - father - family, will continue their life like this and will forget what ever happen???? No never he will take weapon and the person who made him terrorist from innocent person will be you people......

 

MOHAMMAD MILAD SEKANDASRY

1:36 AM ET

May 30, 2010

New Terrorist

Have you people ever thought that among them are innocent people also living that will die in drone war, a person who loses his son - mother - father - family, will continue their life like this and will forget what ever happen???? No never he will take weapon and the person who made him terrorist from innocent person will be you people......

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

2:09 AM ET

May 30, 2010

drone death

It is accepted http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2010/05/201053034934522302.html that there were 23 civilian drone deaths in February and personnel have been reprimanded.

 

MALICEIT

11:21 AM ET

May 30, 2010

RE:

How can you even possibly come up with the argument if your own government covers up any info available ? Whats better for US: to send a drone that will kill civilians and creates more terrorists OR send a marine ? "well marine can die" argument is good, but when instead of sending 1 marine you created 20 terrorists thats kind of defeats the purpose of whole drone attack and point of the war thing, now does it ?

 

MAXIM

6:19 PM ET

May 30, 2010

RE

What the difference drone or machine gun? Both are in killing man will.
This photo is real or photoshoped?

 

IAN

11:18 AM ET

May 31, 2010

Right and wrong?

You said that there has been not one reported kill by drones in Pakistan this year. I just looked up Nicholas Wibberley's article about 23 deaths. While this did occur, and it was from a drone strike, it was in Afghanistan, not Pakistan.

I think this gives a lot of credence to your statement that civilian deaths in Afghanistan often get lumped into the Pakistan drone strikes.

In the end, there is so much propaganda coming out from both sides that the real count will never be known. I would be inclined, for now, to agree with you that civilian deaths have been much overcounted in the FATA areas. On the other hand, the fact that it is secret, under CIA (automatic points against, no matter how effective/accurate/etc. they are because the CIA will never publicize) is hindering the project. Not to mention the loud condemnation provided by the Taliban there swaying Pakistani populace against it. If the CIA was able to come out with some sort of verifiable account of terrorists vs. civilian deaths, perhaps a lot of that would be quieted down. But, like I said, the CIA is secretive by nature and won't divulge its sources, so the Taliban win this propaganda war straight up.

 

RAY RIDLEY

4:02 AM ET

June 27, 2010

Micro-drones

Most people associate drones with the large unmanned aircraft carrying out airstrikes and surveillance missions over Afghanistan and Pakistan. But here at an industry conference for the U.S. military’s “secret warriors” — the special operations community — the increasing focus is on small, stealthy drones that can swoop in and spy on potential enemies. And perhaps even kill them. inkjet cartridges By 2015, the Air Force Research Laboratory wants to have a bird-inspired drone that can fly for up to one week. The idea is to use the drone, which masquerades as a bird, to spy on enemies or perform specific missions, like hunting down weapons of mass destruction. One problem: The wings don’t actually flap right now. The current bird drone comes with a pusher propeller on the back to propel it. The wings do fold up, however, so the bird can realistically — at least in theory — perch on a utility wire, where it will recharge. These sorts of drones don’t typically require specially trained operators or cumbersome ground control stations. lexmark remanufactured cartridges Nor, as is often the case with larger surveillance drones, do they require troops to wait hours to receive critical information transmitted from faraway intelligence centers. Rather, these unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, provide immediate imagery and intelligence to the people who need them most: soldiers on the ground.

 

SARK

8:58 AM ET

June 2, 2010

un-innocent civilians

What does this sentence mean?
"But high-level Pakistani officials have conceded to me that very few civilians have been killed by drones and their innocence is often debatable."
What exactly, is a non-innocent civilian? One who has the audacity to sympathize with your enemies? So killing them is... acceptable? I know someone who would agree with that logic; Usama bin Laden.

If that's not what un-innocent civilians means someone please tell me.

 

CJP1958

5:03 PM ET

June 2, 2010

small as opposed to large

So. "sometimes large bombs get dropped when smaller ones would be better". Naturally that explains everything... What kind of demented logic is that?? I almost fell onto the ground laughing at such a ridiculous and retarded statement. Where have your minds gone ??

Why don't we all ask the Afghans whether they would like to be killed by large bombs or would maybe prefer the smaller ones?

I believe that statment reaches a new low in common morality and decency.

 

ZORRO

1:32 PM ET

June 4, 2010

100% Civilian Casualties, 100% Murder

Pakistan and the United States are not at war.
The killings are committed by non-military forces.
The victims are non-military.
It's not a war crime, it is simply mass murder.

 

ARJUNA

8:49 PM ET

June 6, 2010

Re: drone wars

Thanks for sharing, this an interesting post for debate. One presumes that while the data on civilian deaths is disputed, it is acceptable to debate the morality of targeted assassination. Is it also acceptable to debate the legitimacy of the current political news argument that the undisputed secrecy surrounding this subject, doesn't give much credibility to an argument that because there is next to no such information, then its credible to argue that the policy is just fine.