The Slow Death of Palestinian Democracy

The cancellation of municipal elections in the West Bank marks another setback for democratic institutions. That's bad for Palestinians, and it's bad for peace.

BY MUSTAFA BARGHOUTHI | JULY 21, 2010

Palestinian municipal elections were supposed to be held last week. Instead, they were canceled. A statement released by the Palestinian Authority claimed the cancellation was "in order to pave the way for a successful end to the siege on Gaza and for continued efforts at unity" between Hamas, which governs the Gaza Strip, and the government in the West Bank.

The cancellation of this election was an unjustified, unlawful, and unacceptable act. It damages democratic rights and makes a mockery of the interests of the Palestinian people.

But this is far more than an internal Palestinian issue. The only lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians will be based on a settlement negotiated between two democracies -- this was the case in Europe, and it will be the case in the Middle East.

The Palestinian struggle for democracy has been long and painstaking. Against long odds, we succeeded in constructing a remarkable civil society in order to survive the oppression of the Israeli occupation and to fill the void left by the lack of a central government. We developed parallel nongovernmental health and educational systems, built 17 universities, and established thousands of local community organizations. We even developed grassroots, community-based rehabilitation programs for disabled citizens, which received worldwide recognition.

The Israeli government has long paid lip service to Palestinian democracy while simultaneously crushing initiatives that produced results it didn't like. In 1976, then Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres offered the illusion of local leadership by launching municipal elections, which were meant to dilute the authority of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).

To Peres's great surprise, 90 percent of Palestinians voted for pro-PLO, pro-independence electoral lists. Within two years, the Israeli government -- that self-proclaimed paragon of democracy -- deported the election's victors and dismissed the councils.

With the creation of the Palestinian Authority in the 1990s, we hoped to have a true democracy. However, we were forced to endure wild swings between successful popular elections and efforts -- both self-inflicted and foreign -- to crush our fragile democratic institutions. Palestinians waited until 1996 to cast their votes in Palestine's first-ever parliamentary election for seats in the newly created Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC). I still remember the smile of one woman, a septuagenarian named Fatema, when she told me, "This is the first time in my life I can vote."

But that joy did not last. We had to wait 10 years, until 2006, to hold parliamentary elections again. Although these elections were praised by the world -- former U.S. President Jimmy Carter termed them "honest, fair, and safe" -- the results were never accepted by Israel or most Western governments because they did not like the outcome: Hamas emerged with a plurality of the seats.  

Even when Palestinians managed to create a national unity government, which represented 96 percent of the Palestinian electorate, we were kept under siege and embargo. This fact contributed to the protracted conflict between Fatah and Hamas, which led to the internal division between the West Bank and Gaza in 2007. It also resulted in the cancellation of the PLC elections that were supposed to take place in January.

This is the context in which one must consider the Palestinian Authority's decision to cancel the West Bank municipal elections that were scheduled for July 17 -- and the willing participation of the United States and European governments in the abrogation of the democratic process.

Most Palestinians accept the impossibility of holding presidential and parliamentary elections without first healing the division between the West Bank and Gaza. It is precisely because of this fact that all Palestinian political parties and civil society organizations, excluding Hamas, agreed on the vital importance of holding municipal elections on time. The only alternative would have been the appointment of new local councils by an executive authority, which itself is not approved by the PLC, thereby further depriving the people of the right to choose their representatives.

We saw local elections as a way of keeping the seeds of democratic principles and systems alive despite vicious internal disputes. Properly contested municipal elections would have been a means to remind each and every authority that they are accountable to the people. It was also intended to promote nonviolent means for resolving internal differences, by giving Palestinians an opportunity to express their interests through democratic means rather than the use of force.

The Hamas government prevented voter registration in Gaza, thus stopping elections from taking place there. At first, Palestinian Authority officials correctly decided to go forward with the elections in the West Bank, providing lengthy explanations for why they would not contradict reconciliation efforts. Many gave speeches lauding the role of local elections in building the state. However, it soon became clear that, though Hamas would boycott the election, Fatah would still face tough competition from unaligned, democratic parties. This was evident in all major cities, including Hebron, Ramallah, and Tulkarm.

Nevertheless, until the elections were canceled on June 10, it appeared that voting would go forward as scheduled. Voter registration took place, electoral lists were formed, observers were chosen -- and then, a few minutes before the candidate registration lists were to be closed, the government in the West Bank announced that it was postponing the election until further notice.

So, while the government in Gaza prevented local elections, the government in the West Bank canceled them. This has caused great dismay among the people, who never believed the Palestinian Authority's argument that the election was canceled for the sake of intra-Palestinian reconciliation.

And, of course, it raises a fundamental question about the meaning of "state-building." Doesn't this term mean more than new construction projects, big government buildings, and a larger security apparatus?

Isn't the lesson from numerous failed states throughout the world that what matters most is the establishment of legitimate, representative democratic institutions? Surely this is a significant part of the reason why India and Brazil succeeded while Somalia, Afghanistan, and others have failed.

Our democratic shortcomings should not, however, be used by Israel as an excuse for the continued subjugation of the Palestinians in the occupied territories. This cruel Israeli practice is designed to provide an excuse for Israel's complicity in undermining our democracy, while whitewashing the greater crimes of its occupation.

Palestinians do not want a state in name only, with a flag and an anthem. We want a sovereign nation -- not clusters of Bantustans. And we want a democratic state where we can choose our leaders and our government. We do not want them appointed by foreign powers, who claim to act in our name. A real state requires that people live in freedom and prosperity, with dignity and full rights -- and not with constant machinations from one party or another that subverts this process. Such maneuvering only squelches Palestinians' democratic rights and sets back the cause of peace.

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Mustafa Barghouthi is secretary-general of the Palestinian National Initiative and a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council. He was a candidate for the Palestinian presidency in 2005.

DEPETRIS@WORDPRESS.COM

7:33 PM ET

July 21, 2010

Afraid about rejection

It's a sad thing to see people shooting themselves in the foot, especially when the goal they are trying to reach is a legitimate, independent, and democratic state with strong civilian institutions and demarcated borders. But this is exactly what is happening: the Palestinian population has been subjected to a type of "martial law" since 2006. The P.A. parliament is essentially powerless to the executive branch, and President Mahmoud Abbas has essentially remained in his post despite any form of elections.

It all comes down to the 2006 parliamentary elections. If the United States and Western Europe applauded Palestinian democracy after the elections took place- even if the U.S. didn't necessarily like the results- then this may have served as a precedent for further elections into the future (although who knows what Hamas would do if they were in power).

Unfortunately, Bush took the exact opposite approach. The same democracy that Washington trumpted beforehand quickly turned into an embarrassment. Due to Hamas' place on Washington's terrorist list, the United States refused to declare the contest legitimate. Bush dug himself into the hole further by not engaging Hamas at the deputy level, which would have demonstrated that the U.S. was still serious about the strength of Palestinian democracy.

In many ways, we are still suffering from the 2006 election. The U.S. and the P.A. are afraid what is really on the minds of Palestinian voters. Canceling the elections gives them more time to delay the inevitable.

http://www.depetris.wordpress.com

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

9:48 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Arvay

You claim that Netanyahu is a war hawk, yet what about Mahmoud Abbas and Fatah. Fatah and their armed wing have killed more Israelis then Hamas since 2000. And they are the ones considered moderates!

and i wont even comment on the ridiculousness of the rest of your comments. They are too absurd.

 

JAYDEE001

11:13 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Right again Depetris

The US has a habit of calling for 'democratic' elections and then rejecting the results we do not like - something that has happened many other times in our history - examples include the recent elections in Iran, Afghanistan, and Iraq, which have not turned out exactly the way we would like them. We really don't seem to like the current government in Pakistan, but it's better than a number of alternatives that might have been possible, and besides we need their assistance to combat al Qaeda and the Taliban.

We are forced to live with a government we don't like in Afghanistan, where more than 100,000 US personnel are engaged in a war on behalf of our puppet; we can only wait and hope in Iraq, where we are trying to extricate ourselves from the mess of our own creation; and our government has been totally flummoxed by the situation in Iran, where our opposition to the ruling elite actually helps the incumbents hold onto power. Of course, we did finally recognize the results of the controversial elections (coup d'etat?) in Honduras, despite the fact that most of South American and Mexico declined to do so. Must have been in our interest to ignore the constitutional issue there.

As for the Palestinians, I doubt Israel is going to accede to any unified, let alone democratically elected, government for them. They really do not care if the Palestinians are split into any number of factions, because that keeps the international attention away from what they are doing to prevent the formulation of any Palestinian state, while it weakens the cause of Palestinian statehood.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

9:20 AM ET

July 23, 2010

I never said Egypt was

I never said Egypt was democratic so do not put words in my mouth.

Yet, Israel as a government has not killed people as terrorists. They act in self defense and responsibly.

 

OPEMILY

4:04 PM ET

July 24, 2010

wait- what about civilian

wait- what about civilian casualties????? You know, the people who really don't care about politics but had their house blown up because they lived on the same block as someone the Israelis suspected of being a member of Hamas.

If they don't want to get bombed, will the Israeli government give them a nice villa in Tel Aviv so they can catch "the real terrorists"

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

9:37 PM ET

July 25, 2010

and what of Israeli

and what of Israeli civilians? Will Hamas and Fatah give them land in Jerusalem and Rammallah so they can hunt down the "Israeli" criminials?

What an absurd statement.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN II

10:42 PM ET

July 21, 2010

Mr. Barghouthi I believe in Palestine and the Palestinian people

They will triumph over adversity. I am sure of that. Look they have survived despite the very bestial ways of the invading Jew migrants.

The well wishes of the world are with the Palestinians. The Jew, American and European machinations do not work very well anymore.

There is a new dawn. Palestine will be free from the cluches of the foreign occupier.

Lets not allow anybody to quench the fires of the Freedom Struggle.

Long Live Palestine.

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

2:03 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Mr. Barghouthi I believe in Palestine and freedom and hope

I wish palestine was free and free from bigotry so that we could carry out our homosexual relationship together in the open. Until then we must hide it.

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

DODACANADA

8:57 AM ET

July 22, 2010

Democracy and Elections

When the people of Palestine, tired of the corruption of the PLO and Fatah, elected Hamas to govern in an election determined to be Free, Fair and Democratic by all outside International monitoring groups, the results were repudiated by Israel and the US.

Not only did they disallow the results, they turned the screws on the Palestinian people by immediately stopping all financial aid to the Occupied territories, instigating the split between Fatah and Hamas.

Perhaps the elections were canceled for fear Hamas might win again?

 

ABLITZ

2:32 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Academic definition of Democracy

Elections are one of many required criteria for democracy: it is not the only one. This is where every argument for Hamas as a "democracy" in Gaza falls flat. The means to obtain democracy in Gaza were fulfilled, but the end were not. Democracy requires opposition, which Hamas has eliminated. Free expression and speech are also required for democracy. Hamas does not allow these things. Therefore Gaza (even pre-blockade so don't argue that this is the reason) is not a Democracy. End of Thread.

 

JACOB BLUES

2:46 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Doda Canada, I remember the Louisianna Gubanatorial elections

Back in the 1990's when David Duke (former leader in the Klu Klux Klan) ran for office. His opponent, was a then incumbent who was underinvestigation for various financial shennanigans.
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Near voting time, bumper stickers could be seen on the cars in Louisianna that said "Vote for the Crook, it Matters!"
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The Palestinians decided that rather than voting for the 'crooks' of Fatah, that it would rather choose the extremists and rejectionists of HAMAS.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

9:28 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Well first of all you have

Well first of all you have this quote without a source. Look what I can do without sources : "Palestine has never been an individual country" Only problem is that mine is historically accurate.

Also anyone can say it appears to me. It just means the person had no facts and was assuming. President Bush did the same in Iraq. He assumed there were WMD's. And you know what happens when you assume. You make an ass out of u and me.

 

DODACANADA

9:31 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Source

An excellent link to the Vanity Fair Article, FREEDA2. Loads of information that that Western news media do not cover.

In 2008, Hamas and Israel, even though they did not recognize each other formally, established a 6 month Truce that was working. Even the IDF admits Hamas did it´s best to stop even more violent splinter groups not under the control of Hamas from firing rockets into Israel from Gaza.

On November 5, 2008, in it´s policy of targeted assassinations, and in violation of the Truce, Israel attacked in Gaza, killing 6 people. This act of war by Israel set off a new round of retaliation, and crude, home made rockets having no guidance system were again fired into Israel.

Then on 23 December, Hamas offered to renew the ceasefire, but Israel´s charade was such that its all-out assault on Gaza had been planned six months earlier, according to the Israeli daily Ha´aretz.

Even though Israel started it, this retaliation from within Gaza gave Israel the trigger it was looking for and started the murderous bombardment of Gaza in Operation Cast Lead.

If Israel didn´t have Hamas as it´s bogyman, would the Americans continue to provide over $3 billion annually in military hardware for Israel´s self-defense?

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

10:34 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Freeda the palestinians do not need democracy

they just need the Koran. Stop trying to be more Palestinian than the actual Palestinians.

 

LYN17

1:35 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Truth is partisan

"Well first of all you have this quote without a source. Look what I can do without sources : "Palestine has never been an individual country" Only problem is that mine is historically accurate."

Straight from the hasbara (Israeli propaganda) talking points. Reveals an extreme partisan position. This one is a longstanding and oft-repeated by Zionist/Israeli propagandists.

I guess the reason it matters to Zionists that Palestine was never a "country" is that in some perverted logic it means that it never had citizens, therefore (I guess) it was fine for Israel to expel the non-Jewish residents, massacre them, and so forth.

In fact Palestine did have citizens, the majority of whom were Arabs, the majority of people in what became Israel would have been Palestinian Arabs had Israelis/Zionists not conducted a campaign of terror and slaughter to force them out. Historically accurate. Historically accurate, also, that Israel has continued to expel and terrorize the inhabitants of the lands now considered occupied Palestinian territories.

As far as the elections, I think Barghouti only touches on the real issue. The very definition of democracy is "rule by the people." That is rule by free consent, without force, and with participation of everyone. Typically, through elected representatives but not necessarily. There isn't, of course, any completely idealized society where there isn't at least some coercion to get members to agree to the rules, we have policemen to get people to agree to speed limits and respect property rights. But we generally agree on the rules, and we participate in making them.

Under occupation, Israel makes the rules without participation of the citizens, and enforces them without their consent - and often with the intent of getting rid of the citizens to replace them with Jews (its a Jewish state). On a scale of democracies (10 being most democratic), that's just about 0. Most autocratic Arab rulers at least listen to and respond in some manner to "the street," the opinions of the masses - the rulers don't totally ignore their people. Elections are fine, but its an illusion when it comes to democracy under Israeli occupation.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

1:48 PM ET

July 23, 2010

The Jews make such good impostors

This me, and the post above is from a deceptive Jew poster, just as their Mossad's motto "by way of deception thou shalt do war".

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

1:44 PM ET

July 23, 2010

And you would know because you have been there? Unlike me right?

Most autocratic Arab rulers at least listen to and respond in some manner to "the street,"

Yeah, they listen to the street and respond to it with indiscriminate shooting, mass arrests, executions, and if you are lucky, like in Iran, the guards will rape you and then kill you.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

1:47 PM ET

July 23, 2010

This is the real Khan, some Joo is impostering me

as Aurangzeb Khan III. This is just a Joo trick. It is like how mossad tricks the world.

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

XTIANGODLOKI

12:07 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Democracy is not as important as national interests

That's the bottom line. The US, or any nation for that matter, would rather support a brutal dictatorship over a popular elected leader any day, if the former can cater to the US' interests better than the later. That's how diplomacy has been working before, and will likely to continue in the future.

 

NORBOOSE

11:09 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Yes

Im glad you see that. By the moral standards which we use to judge individuals, all large entities are evil. In that sense, there are no "good" countries, just "more evil" and "less evil." Thats why you really need a different set of ethical criteria for large bodies than you do for individuals.

 

BUDAHH

3:26 PM ET

July 22, 2010

Is this true,his quote? and people who teach incitment to kids

cannot be Serious about democracy I am sorry it just doen't add up, you cant teach hate and martyrdom to kids and claim to be democratic.

"Even when Palestinians managed to create a national unity government, which represented 96 percent of the Palestinian electorate, we were kept under siege and embargo. This fact contributed to the protracted conflict between Fatah and Hamas, which led to the internal division between the West Bank and Gaza in 2007. It also resulted in the cancellation of the PLC elections that were supposed to take place in January"

Was there siege and embargo or did it start after the hamas started shooting at the passages. There was no siege untill than. Why would Israel or the U.s accept hamas as a legitamate power untill they renounce violence and accept past agreements. It is like shooting yourself in the foot against all logic. Terrorists cannot represent a democracy sorry.

 

BUDAHH

12:58 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Freeda you are as ignorant as your comments are tasteless

Why Jews, what did the Jews alll over the world do to you today?
There was no blockade untill the hamas took over and started shooting at the passages, why is it that you pro palestinians can't keep the facts straight, if someone doesn't know any better he will think you are speaking the truth.
And than you claim it is self defense to shoot and target civilian populations inside of Israel, it might only add up in an arab's mind that shelling civilians equals self defense, which madrasa has taght you that?
By your logic Israel should go and bomb everything civilian in gaza for self defense everytime there is a suicide bomber, what about Egypt you guys don't use self defense against your "brothers" who love ya ha.

 

YOUR FACT

10:34 AM ET

July 23, 2010

AMOSYARKONI, please play nice

AMOSYARKONI, I completely agree that Freeda2 is giving a one-sided, factually incorrect, biased, and bigoted account of the conflict, but that is no excuse for ad-hominem attack, especially ones for which you have no sound proof.

Freeda2, may I remind you that much of the information that you are presenting as historical gospel is coming from Vanity Fair. Further, you too should refrain from ad-hominem attacks against Jews. It is rude, disgusting, offensive, and doesn't even do your arguments any service; quite the contrary, it leads to people discounting anything and everything you say out of hand, because you have shown tendency to say racist and baseless things such as those that you have said about Jews.

Hamas has, for a long time, been sworn to destroy Israel. Take, for example, their charter. http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm The fact that Israel is willing to deal at all with an organization founded for and bent on Israel's destruction shows a remarkable devotion to peace.

 

DAVE123

5:04 PM ET

July 22, 2010

There has never been a

There has never been a Palestinian democracy. There have been two elections which led to autocracy is the West Bank and theocracy in Gaza. There are no democratic institutions or traditions to end.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

10:10 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Israel is the greatest country in the world.

On to my fourth account, I have to admit that I have just been jealous. I come from Pakistan where it's dangerous, corrupt, violent, and lawless. In a matter of less than 60 years Israel has out done every Muslim country in terms of scientific, cultural, educational, and economic progress. They did this all while being constantly under attack from my Muslim brothers.

I am sorry for all the hatred I have spewed over the years.

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

BUDAHH

10:22 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Does that just mean that Arabs are not very bright or Jews

are genious, seriously tired of this accusation. Jews value education so naturally they will be a little better off than most in America, and they are smart so they get to some influencial positions, the distance between that and controlling congress and government is ridiculous.
Why do the American poeple support Israel? Did we buy them off as well? They must like us because we share the same values and believe in true freedoms, rights, etc. Unlike the arab world which does the oppsite oppresses almost everyone(women,gays, speech) and supports terror, like I said before you are surprised the American poeple don't like you well I am not.
When you lost that war you go blaming the Lobby and Jewish money, I wonder how much income do the Gulf states have every year from Oil and Natural gas?
I assure you it is more than all Jews in the world put together have every year, so why instead of crying you guys don't get a lobby group. Paly fair and don't go whining making up conspiracy theories every time you lose. Stop supporting terror and oppressing freedoms and Americans might like you a little better.
America supports Israel beacuse of values not money the people and congress, you guys have so much money that you are just dumb if you cuoldn't buy congress yet.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

10:31 AM ET

July 23, 2010

Silly Jooo we do not start our own lobbying group

with the hundreds of billions of dollars we get from oil money because we are lazy. All our labor we import from the Philippines, India, Pakistan, and Sri Lanka. We let them do the work and tax them for it. It's like a pyramid scheme (no pun intended). Setting up a lobbying group is too hard when we can just pay people off. I am a lot more happy pretending I follow the Koran while I drink my Crystal and have sex with the Russian prostitutes I import into the kingdom.

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

12:29 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Welcome to the wrath of Khan!

You must stop stealing land Joos because I will buttfuck you!

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

12:24 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Welcome to the wrath of Khan!

You must stop stealing land Joos because I will buttfuck you!

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

1:48 PM ET

July 23, 2010

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

1:53 PM ET

July 23, 2010

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

1:55 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Khan III - by way of deception thou shalt do war

Why are you trying to slander me? You want to ruin my relationship with Sami Jadallah? You are just mad that we did not let you in for a threesome.

 

DODACANADA

2:08 PM ET

July 23, 2010

The Letter and the Spirit

In my view, this letter was written for the Spirit of these times. It applies not only to Israel, but the Palestinians, and the people of ALL Nations.

Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD has spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me.
The ox knows his owner, and the ass his master's crib: but Israel does not know, my people do not consider.
Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.
Why should you be stricken any more? you will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.
From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and purifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment.
Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.
Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.
Hear the word of the LORD, you rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, you people of Gomorrah.
To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? says the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
When you come to appear before me, who has required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hates: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.
And when you spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when you make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.
Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil;
Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Come now, and let us reason together, says the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
If you be willing and obedient, you shall eat the good of the land:
But if you refuse and rebel, you shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD has spoken it.
How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
Your silver is become dross, your wine mixed with water:
Your princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loves gifts, and follows after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither does the cause of the widow come unto them.
Therefore says the Lord, the LORD of hosts, the mighty One of Israel, Ah, I will ease me of mine adversaries, and avenge me of mine enemies:
And I will turn my hand upon you, and purely purge away your dross, and take away all your tin:

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. (In Judaism, Christianity and Islam)
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth (politicians & the rich) and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

2:38 PM ET

July 23, 2010

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

3:19 PM ET

July 23, 2010

I truely did light a fuse. I am the best antisemite on this

board. Just look at how AK III over-reacts. This IMPOSTER pretends he is me. He does not even know how to finger his own butthole as I do. Mossad: by way of deception! Israel Donkey Forces! This is the Joo tactics and deception. They think they are so much smarter than me because their people do not blow themselves up for allah. Well, that is wrong, we get all the women in heaven, or in my case a lot of sexy men.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

3:41 PM ET

July 23, 2010

The whole world talks about the Ugly Americans

Perhaps they should concentrate on the wild eyed, gun toting, obnoxious, Neanderthal Ugly Americans who hail from Eastern Europe.

The unusually higher Neanderthal gene pool mixing with homo sapien's in Eastern Europe may explain the historic savage ways of Russians, Vikings, Germans and the Serbs.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

9:06 PM ET

July 25, 2010

Yes, the purest race is that of the arabs and pakistanis

we make sure we stay pure by only fucking our brothers and sisters. We then marry them in our islamic ceremonies. The Imam recites the magic words: dirka dirka mohamed jihad. Then we are not just brother and sister anymore, but also man and wife.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

3:44 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Vilksweden its you the impostor

Are you having a coronary heart attack?

Please let me know I will call 911 for you.

 

RICHDOG

4:25 PM ET

July 23, 2010

freeda2

I just accidentally started reading this whole blog thing and had to read the whole thing because I wanted to see who won. I learned all kinds of stuff, especially that people who are siding with a group of people that murders and oppresses always say they are doing so in defense. They say their oppression is okay because they are defending themselves. That makes everybody that kills justified doesn't it? Okay, so since killing is wrong in the first place I had to decide who I believed most after reading everything. The truth not partisan guy sounds like a total complete idiot because even by watching filtered and biased news coverage scantily portrayed on american television it is easy to see that Israel has slaughtered massively more innocent people than Palestine people, so that person is a screaming piece of crap that calls anybody that call isreal a criminal state is antijewish. Whats wrong with being anti criminal or antisociopath? Speaking of which why haven't Bush and Cheney been indicted for war crimes yet. As long as people like you guys get away with it with no consequences, this lopsided "killing in self defense" will always go on. The difference between you guys and the other guys? You're oppressing them, they're not oppressing you, so even though you're both "killing in self defense" you are more wrong for the oppression part than they are. So, your position has no merit. You have no truth. You are 100% wrongly) partisan. You suck. I really liked everything that freeda2 said and I wish I knew her because I don't care what she looks like, her soul is beautiful and therefor lovable. As far as the AKiii guy and th AK iV guy, the AK IV overplayed his hand early on and just made the AK III guy look very smart, very learned and totally worth listening too. Thanks for the blog. And thanks for letting me write stuff however I want. That is the best thing about America, I hope we never lose that freedom. And you guys that are full of bologna like "truth without partisan" and AK IV, keep writing your crap, you're easy to dispel and your crap identifies you and shows what kind of filth still corrupts the world---but still you must be heard so that good knows what kind of evil it is up against.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

7:33 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Thanks

:)

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

8:56 PM ET

July 25, 2010

Richdog, you are deserving of a beating

like I do my 3rd wife. You are totally fucking stupid. So, whoever kills more civilians is the party in the wrong? Yeah, that makes sense.

The US killed millions of Japanese in WWII. We dropped the A-bomb on two towns. That means we were totally wrong.

The US also kills way more civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq than they do of US civilians. Again, the US must be wrong.

Sorry asshat, but collateral damage in war does not make someone the bad guy. Especially if it is what it says, "collateral damage." Counter that with groups like Hamas and Hizbollah that INTENTIONALLY target civilians. They are not collateral, but the main goal. There is a huge difference in warfare.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

8:15 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Hasbara agents are followers of Joseph Goebbels

Hasbara agents are followers of Joseph Goebbels:

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie.

It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State - Joseph Goebbels

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

8:20 PM ET

July 23, 2010

so says the man that has been

so says the man that has been banned 3 times for simply copying and pasting his rants.

 

AURANGZEB KHAN III

9:32 PM ET

July 23, 2010

Philip Smucker’s: My Brother, My Enemy

See this video and understand why the Israeli occupation is the prime mover of all Muslim resistance against America:

Video here:

lalqila.wordpress.com/?s=philip+smucker

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

8:57 PM ET

July 25, 2010

Yes, watch Smuckers, the man who invented Smuckers Jelly

for he is a true source of all that is right in the middle east. I have to go back to watching little boys race camels in the Abu Dhabi. Go camel number 3.

 

DMITRY

8:27 AM ET

July 24, 2010

The same disease permeates the writer and his subject...

It's all out in the open. The author blames Israel for the fact that the Abbas government canceled the municipal elections. The author surely blames Israel for the fact that Hamas simply prevented said elections from taking place in Gaza. As far as the Palestinian discourse is concerned, everything is Israel's fault, including what their own (elected?) leaders do to them. The fact that they have no economy and simply subsist on the donations from the rest of the world - including Israel - is Israel's fault. Never mind that those donations are essentially extorted at the barrel of a gun and a bomb vest - "feed us or we explode!"

The fact that the would-be-genocidal but polite West Bank faction can't convince the Gaza faction to at least PRETEND they won't kill all the Jews as soon as they have an opportunity - is Israel's fault. The fact that those poor Gaza families are living on UN food aid - while siring 7-10 children, and complain of a low standard of living - is Israel's fault. It's everywhere in the Palestinian society - the "autocrats",. the "democrats", the "unaligned" and the "factions", the "villagers" and the "intellectuals".

The arguments in the article - directed as they are at denouncing Israel and the West even for the most internal of Palestinian political decisions - speak for themselves. The fact is, the author can't even bring himself to outline in public the sorry fact that it was infighting INSIDE Fatah (competing lists of candidates submitted by Fatah subfactions) that caused the cancellation - that key omission speaks volumes. A classic case of trying to hide the truth in plain sight...

And so it goes - until the Palestinians speak the truth at least to themselves about themselves, they will not be a real society or a nation with a real country. Just a large collection of men with guns, extorting money for themselves and throwing crumbs to their "brothers" in the camps.

How's your cousin Marwan doing by the way, Mr Barghouti? I suppose if the Israelis let him out of jail (never mind the Greek priest he wasted, and all the others), he'll lead the Palestinian nation into the promised land of milk and honey. Oh, wait, that's someone else's analogy, invented by those Palestinians that were in the land before these Palestinians started to pretend they were never in Jerusalem to begin with (or is Al Quds?). Soo confusing...

 

AURANGZEB KHAN IV

9:02 PM ET

July 25, 2010

Yes Dmitry do you perhaps represent Stalin? For I am Khan

I am the offspring of my mom and brother fucking each other. For this is the Pakistani way. I am also a closeted homosexual like all muslims. This is our way of life. For, we wrap our women up in bed sheets. As a result of this sexual repression, our only outlet is to have sex with other smelly, hairy, lice infested pakistani and arab men. I still have my boyfriends "lovejuice" oozing out of my anus right now, as I type my rant against the JOOOOOOOOOOOOS! Mossad by way of deception. Israel donkey force (IDF). I love men.

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

DMITRY

11:14 AM ET

July 26, 2010

The truth

Aurangzeb Khan III/IV(NNN?) is a foolish poster, who attempts to insult strangers when he has nothing intelligent to say. Apparently, that's a common occurrence with this estimable contributor to the discussion...

Respectfully

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

2:09 AM ET

July 27, 2010

Khan IV is making fun of Khan

Khan IV is making fun of Khan III. Unfortunately Khan III has had posts like his for quite a while and believes himself to be intelligent.

 

AVNER STEIN

9:20 PM ET

July 30, 2010

MUSTAFA BARGHOUTHI - Murderer, shame on FP

Might as well publish an editorial by Osama Bin Laden.

MUSTAFA BARGHOUTHI is a terrorist scumbag living off the nobaility in Israel. If he was an enemy of the USA or Britain he would be written off as a high-value target and terminated by an Israeli-made predator drone.

The guy is a power whore posing as a victim to the undemocratic and corrupt Fatah.

This is how every Palestinian revolutionary has gotten into power - blame fellow Palestinians for collaborating with Israel, killing them, then sucking up to Israel when the time is right.

It's a vicious cycle. Palestinians have always been dependent on foreign benefactors. Today they need Israel to protect them from Hamas. Tomorrow they'll need European Union to protect them from Israel.

There has never been Palestinian democracy. The elections can be summarized by the south park episode, "douchebad and turd sandwich"