Zardari's Katrina

Why is Pakistan’s president junketing while his people drown?

BY FATIMA BHUTTO | AUGUST 4, 2010

View a slide show of Pakistan's great flood.

This week, Pakistan's president, Asif Ali Zardari, boarded a private Gulfstream jet along with his family and his hundreds-large entourage to visit the European countries included on the president's grand tour. Yesterday, Zardari -- who was married to my aunt, the late Benazir Bhutto, before her 2007 murder -- landed in London. As soon as the plane touched down, the president and his Very Important coterie were chauffeured in a dozen luxury vehicles to a five-star hotel where the president will be staying in a £7,000 ($11,160) per night Royal Suite.

His welcome, however, was less than royal. On the drive to the hotel, protesters held placards reading "Zardari King of Thieves," "Zardari 100% Pure Corruption," and "GO Zardari GO." While Zardari was schmoozing with his cronies in luxe London hotels, Pakistan was reeling from the deadliest floods to hit the country in 80 years. In short, it looks like Zardari's Katrina.

More than 3 million people in the northwestern region of Pakistan have now been affected by the floods. Parts of the north are facing terminal food shortages even as they are inaccessible to relief workers. The U.N. World Food Program says that 1.8 million will urgently need something to eat in coming weeks. The death toll has risen steadily in recent days to more than 1,400 people. About another million have lost their homes.

The news is also unlikely to get any better: Officials now say that the waters are expected to hit Punjab and Sindh provinces, Pakistan's food-producing regions. New flood warnings are still being issued, and the country is bracing for further monsoon downpours.

Zardari takes a lot of overseas trips -- so many that one local TV pundit estimated somewhat anecdotally last year that Richard Holbrooke, U.S. President Barack Obama's special envoy to the "AfPak" region, had spent more time in Pakistan than Zardari had recently. But the timing of this particular visit has angered not only his subjects but also his hosts. Two prominent Asian Britons refused to meet the visiting head of state. Khalid Mahmood, a member of Parliament, vigorously condemned Zardari's decision to visit London. "A lot of people are dying," he told the press. "He should be [in Pakistan] to try to support the people, not swanning around in the UK and France." Lord Ahmed, a labor MP, continued that Zardari had a responsibility to be "looking after people, not [be] over here."

Yet the protests seem to have fallen on deaf ears -- which really shouldn't surprise anyone who has watched the Zardari government in action. The floods are just the latest, most tragic example of how inept the Pakistani state truly is. The inundation was predictable; Pakistan suffers monsoon rains every year at exactly the same time. But in a country -- and with a president -- so endemically corrupt, dealing with the entirely preventable, whether terrorism or natural disasters, has become impossible. There is simply no will, and more importantly no money, to spend on the Pakistani people. The country's coffers are constantly being diverted to more pressing programs -- or pockets, for that matter. Before he came to office, Zardari was facing corruption charges in Switzerland, Spain, and Britain. (As president, he withdrew Pakistan's cooperation with the latter two countries' courts; his presidential immunity prevented a Swiss case from reopening.)

And thus the tragedy unfolds: There are no emergency evacuation plans for natural disasters, nor is there money for institutions that could help victims of such crises. What there is money for -- almost $600,000 -- are such programs as the Martyr Benazir Bhutto Income Support Scheme, a cult-of-personality initiative named after the president's late wife. Those who sign up receive meager cash handouts and find themselves on the president's ruling party's election rolls -- which themselves received more government funds than two whole federal departments of Pakistan put together.

Meanwhile, if rumors in the Pakistani press are right, Zardari's European tour is even more cynical than it already seems. The trip is meant to kick-start the president's young son's political career. That launch has to take place overseas to avoid the inevitably hostile reactions such a dynastic coronation would draw back in Pakistan. Speculation has it that Zardari's son Bilawal, a recent college graduate who is already co-chairman along with Zardari of their political party, will proclaim himself the future leader of Pakistan to a select audience in Birmingham on August 7.

Pakistan's The News newspaper summed up popular sentiment in a laundry list of questions posed to the country's High Commission in London. "Who is paying for the buses and coaches being booked to bring people to the Birmingham rally?" the paper asks. "Why will the president not cancel his visit?" And the most crucial question: Shouldn't the money for the trip be better spent on the flood victims? In response, the Pakistani High Commission issued a one-line blanket response: "This is an official visit and procedures for official visits are being followed."

Pakistan can ill afford a president who prioritizes his personal political future over the lives of millions of his citizens. We have always known in Pakistan that the rest of the world's attention comes at a tremendously high cost. Yet we seem to keep paying.

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Fatima Bhutto writes for the New Statesman and the Daily Beast. Her book Songs of Blood and Sword will be published by Nation Books in September. She is a niece of Benazir Bhutto, who was married to Asif Ali Zardari.

ALI

6:06 PM ET

August 4, 2010

what difference he would have made staying home?

Fatima I don’t understand why you and other analysts are so obsessed about his tour while Pakistan is flooded, do you reckon would it made a difference if your uncle Mr. cent percent were in Pakistan? Do you think he would have been in field at all? Or do you think he would have been disbursing money from his personal treasure to its poor country men? And what are you on about £7k a night he is spending on luxurious suite of course thats peanuts for Mr. cent percent (he robbed his country big time...). I would be obliged if you could explain why your grand chose him for his dear pinky and why your aunt stuck with him... come on dare to let us know!

 

ZIAUL

3:41 PM ET

August 5, 2010

social responsibility

Said easy from a million miles away... with all due respect when was the last time Ms Fatima Bhutto came down to see in real life whats happening in our Godforsaken country. Its good to get a liberal arts degree, write a book with misrepresented facts sitting away from a land she has no idea about and commenting with the thoroughbred linguistic skills n trying to create a niche for herself by cashing in on her late aunts name when her father went to thn air by her own family.

I m surprised why misrepresentation is given any space in media and publications and why a person like H.E Ms. Fatima Bhutto is allowed to represent peoples thoughts who re affected by floods.

I can swear upon my dead father she cant even tell which parts of Pakistan the floods actually hit!
I m ashamed of being a national of the same country she claims to represent so honestly in the international media

 

IMPROPERBOSTONIAN

11:01 PM ET

August 6, 2010

oh, fatima, you could have been great....

For all the hate Fatima spews against Benazir, she needed only 3 lines in this article to bring up her relationship with her as if the last name didnt give it away...tsk tsk... bad girl...

Zardari has relinquished his presidential powers, has successfully kept Pakistan afloat through the war and the recession, and well...done enough to appease the army and the ISI and everyone else who has been on his case since the early 1990s....

He is the product of the worst case of character assasination since well, Satan, i guess. And yet, Fatima Bhutto still ends up looking so bad with her incoherent, contradictory, and fiery rhetoric.

Its a waste of a pretty face...

 

AMNA

1:12 PM ET

August 7, 2010

Quick to judge?

While everyone here is so quick to judge Fatima Bhutto, the question I am forced to ask is which one of you is out there aiding the flood victims and their families? Taking shots at the bhutto family, their intellectual capabilities, and their financial background shows nothing but ignorance. Fatima Bhutto may not be in her country, but in reference to her article it is evident that she is concerned - she chose to express her concerns through a forum she knows best. But ofcourse few, if not all find a qualm in that.
I'm baffled by the comments posted here only because how can one say with any certainty that she is not helping those in need in Pakistan? Oh wait, I get it now - she can only redeem herself if she parades herself as a philanthropist? I am sickened and amazed at the ignorance I see. The problem lies in the mentality you all share. To think that a few of you are hating on her education is beyond disgusting.
Lets be a little realistic, the issue at hand is NOT - I repeat, NOT what she is doing or not doing, it is the trauma Pakistan is facing while their President is on his 'official' visit. So I would suggest quit hating on who is saying/doing what, even though that comes naturally to most of you, but focus on how you can aid your country.

 

AZAROBI

2:52 PM ET

August 7, 2010

????

Obsessed with Zardaris tour !??? are you for real ? so you think its ok that he tours foreign countries while this floods wreaks hvok across Pakistan. would it make any difference if he were in Pakistan...probably not. Should he have stayed here during this turmoil...hell yes. this is not some rocket science brother..he is the president of this country. We are talking about "common etiquette's" at a very higher level. Just look into your heart and tell me if it feels right to you. probably not. because, pardon me but, i think you are just another 'pithuu' of Zardari here to counter truth against him.

 

AMNA

5:32 PM ET

August 7, 2010

Correction

I am in NO way defending Zardari's visit, infact I find it downright insulting. Zardari, like any other responsible president, should've been in his country at this time of need. However, he isn't. As appalling as that is, I don't find solace in spewing hate on him. You may ask why, to which I would like to state that there isn't much we can do about it - he's there, so now what? Sure, he should've used all that vacation money in helping his people as any lay man would know that it is much needed here, but he does not possess a humane personality. That is no secret.
Please don't mistake my sentiments to be in favor of Zardari and his government. I, like any other Pakistani, am disappointed and angered.
However, I just find it trivial to judge Fatima Bhutto on her education and her location at this given time. She voiced her opinion, sure using the ladder of her Aunt's being for fame - but is that what we should be debating right now, or at any time?
In any case, the bigger picture here is not who we can hate on, but how we can aid the victims. I just wish everyone would focus their energy on them.

 

AZAROBI

2:41 AM ET

August 8, 2010

Sanity at last

Thank you Amna Good to see someone else is baffled as well. i was myself bewildered over the comments given above. Its amazing to see people sidestepping the issue and badgering Fatima over the facts as being not in Pakistan and god knows what. to be honest i reall y think they are all zardaris people. Here to counter the truth. Because no sane Pakistani national would come up with these kind of comments considering whats going on in the country imho. my one question to all of them (Ali, Ziaul, improperbostonia etc) is, What if this Article was not written by Fatima...what would you have to say then ??? one simple question ! anyone ?

 

KHALIDMAHIDA

7:11 AM ET

August 8, 2010

zardari,s katrina

I agree with you in every aspect
For the last 40 years Bhutto s and now in laws and grand daughter are bluffing Pakistan in the name of Poverty , Injustice etc etc..............etc.
Ask her the geography, history of Pakistan ?
Get rid of them , Pakistan will be a better place

 

ZEESHAN

12:27 PM ET

August 8, 2010

Well we don't have an answer

Well we don't have an answer from her lets tell her what I think about the question, 'why your grand chose him for his dear pinky and why your aunt stuck with him... ', you asked Mr. Ali.

Grandpa, aunt and uncle they all eat from the same plate.

"Different faces but same game"

 

ZEESHAN

12:45 PM ET

August 8, 2010

Well I am trying hard to save

Well I am trying hard to save Pakistan from another Bhutto by discouraging this lady to step into politics.

 

HASSAN RIZVI

6:38 AM ET

August 9, 2010

Useless Visit

AOA...

i would like to say something that our politicians have completed a bullshitte story.
i think we are wasting our thinking and our politicians are not political they are just business mans and they know only one thing how to increase their bank balance.

Youth needs to take decision and then our country will appears with resolution.
The Useless visits can't change the nation's direction. we really need a leader like Hazrat Khomeini.

People are in flood and they are doing chill pill...OMG May ALLAH please blessing on us...

 

S M

10:32 AM ET

August 9, 2010

Read what Isloo diplomats say on this

an interesting article in this regard

DIPLOMATIC BUBBLES: Cameron’s rush makes Qureshi blush —By Saeed Minhas

ISLAMABAD: There was a lot of furor about the confrontational remarks from British Prime Minister David Cameron regarding Pakistan’s role in export of terrorism throughout the political as well as diplomatic circles in the federal capital.

Coming on the heels of the WikiLeaks revelations, and that too in the Indian city of Bangalore, it was sure to create political ripples in a country, which currently is passing through lots of natural and man-made disasters.

By indulging in a blame game, Cameron might have been trying to lure some golden bucks for his turbulent home economy but lots of seasoned diplomats considered it a show of inexperience by the British prime minister, who has hardly settled in national let alone international politics.

Understandably so, because Cameron’s Conservative Party has come to power after spending more than a decade on opposition benches and on top of that they are walking on a tight rope with their coalition partners – Liberal-Democrats – to avoid another political spin to their fortunes because of the financial woes Brits are finding themselves in these days.

Meanwhile, after a couple of days of lull, our Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi, who by virtue of his breaking-news sort of attitude during the Indian foreign minister’s visit is already nursing his dented image, had to summon British envoy Adam Thomson to seek clarification.

Noted by all the diplomats here was that Thomson was supposedly summoned to give clarification, but as per some insiders, it ended up being a meeting to clarify to the British envoy about Pakistan’s sacrifices, as if they were living in Mars and were clueless about how much Pakistan has suffered so far in this game of terror, commented a senior FO representative, seeking anonymity. There was hardly any mention of Thomson saying anything and what was reported everywhere was the clarification of Qureshi as if asking the main-stay of American-sponsored war on terrorism to have mercy on him and his perpetual state of uncertainty since the Indian saga, commented another Arab diplomat.

As a shaky Foreign Minister Qureshi continue to bungle up things, President Asif Zardari finally visited Britain without him perhaps to prove his role as a statesman and top negotiator in the current set up of government but also to show his confidence in Mr Gilani that he can handle his job well while he is away to see his ailing father in their family-owned French Chalet, to attend his son’s graduation and re-link with Cameron on terror issue.

Whether Mr Zardari managed it or not, is something on which our Arab friends in the diplomatic community have reservations about, while the European friends were happy that Pakistan did not make yet another attack on their bruised ego a big issue.

“WikiLeaks or Cameron, it does not matter because the whole world is aware of the fact that what the ISI has been doing and how both political and military leadership of Pakistan is interacting with the Western world now,” commented a Spanish friend.

Adding to this, he said instead of isolating itself, President Zardari has done a wise thing to go and see Cameron, because eventually Pakistan has no option but to cooperate with the Western world to not only get itself out of the current mess but also to help the world stave off terrorist threats.

Amidst all these discourses of discontent, what surpassed this tug of war between UK and Pakistan was the ensuing politics of disaster where donors seem ready to help but are finding it hard to channel their cash and goods to help the flood victims. Therefore, US has decided to bring its boots on the ground, as 83 of their servicemen are helping people in flood-hit areas, especially in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where catastrophic floods claimed more lives and marooned even more people. Not only that like many UN agencies and other Western countries, they have also decided to spend its announced $35 million USAID package through its trusted allies in the civil society reminding all the organisations like NDMA, and perhaps Gen (r) Nadeem might take note of it as well, that where Pakistan stands in Transparency International and Corruption Index. As per the Transparency International’s last index of 2009, Pakistan is ranked 139 out of 180 countries. Even UK is utilising the DFID, its development organisation, Japanese using, JICA and similarly all other major donors are funneling their goods, services and even cash through their own trusted arms.

Though the National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA) is considered to be the focal point in this entire process of disaster management, but other than managing the tours of political heavy-weights like Prime Minister Gilani, or chief ministers of the respective provinces, they have not been able to concentrate more on rescue and relief because they are kept busy in protocols and presentations based on reported facts and figures of the media.

Discussing this at one of the diplomatic receptions at the residence of our Jordanian friend Dr Saleh, many Arab diplomats expressed dismay that lots of philanthropists in Arab world want to send in cash and goods but after getting ill-prepared responses from the concerned consulates in their respective countries, they end up doing nothing. Therefore, they urged the government to not only develop a coordinated effort to manage this huge disaster in the country but also prepare its staff in all foreign consulates to properly and purposefully direct the individual as well as organisations towards rescue and relief efforts.

 

MAY

11:39 PM ET

August 9, 2010

The difference he could have made staying at home

Did you see what President Obama did during the oil spill and this when Govt did not have experience oil companies did. He turned up at the site. President Bush turned up where the storm took its toll as well.
President Zardari can create an Emergency management Agency. He can get it trained by other such agencies. Extreme weather events are the new normal.
He cam announce he will pay from own pocket for his trip and that of his entourage. As you said he is rich enough so why be cheap and put it on govt bill? This was mostly a personal trip.
He could restore the local government system.
What went wrong in Katrina was that in an area where local govt has been weak, neither the state nor the federal Govt stepped into the breach quickly enough. All 3 levels of govt failed.
In Pakistan's case, no local government. Only provincial governments and national government who seem to not be doing much leaving work to the army.

 

ARBI

12:50 AM ET

August 11, 2010

Sarcastic, Revengeful

The lady Amna seems to be hysteric: Well we know very well the critics of Fatima Bhutto are not real these are merely revenge of Fatima Bhutto for her aunt and uncle. They did not give her any small penny from the power they have now and in past. I can easily smell the biasness and sarcastic attitude out of rage in her writing. Her writings are not at all intellectual, simply revengeful.

 

BEANIE

5:56 AM ET

August 11, 2010

Actions speak louder than words

Well Ms Amna,

I guess you are loyal to the Bhutto family, who someone so correctly said reminds them of corruption. Well this rings a bell.......

All I have to say is that Actions Speak Louder than Words. I am picturing Ms Bhutto sitting on a very lush and comfy sofa sipping on tea and writing this article. While her uncle was also doing the same …. both outside of the country that they so love.

And by the way what is it that each one us who have commented here have done to help people in Pakistan?

 

DKG

12:19 PM ET

August 11, 2010

Politics is about perception

Politics is always about perception. The reason we are using the term Katrina is because in our minds it symbolizes George W. Bush's ineptness or even callous disregard for the situation. Whether it is true or not, that is the perception. Did Nero actually fiddle as Rome was burning? Who knows. The picture only symbolizes a perception of a public figure and becomes part of political lexicon. In that sense, Zardari was clearly on the wrong side of perception. As for Fatima, she is not an elected official. As a private citizen, she is under no obligation to go back to Pakistan and wade through the flood waters to help people, admirable as it might have been considering the heavy burden of her family name. It is truly unfortunate that in the six decades long history of Pakistan, people have danced on the streets whenever a government - democratic or not - has been toppled. I suspect that when Zardari ends his presidency, the reaction will be the same. We should all cry for Pakistan.

 

JAWAD TAHIR

1:05 PM ET

August 11, 2010

About BB's deciding to stay

About BB's deciding to stay with Z. Well that is a mystery that shall forever remain unanswered

 

NAUMAAN

9:33 PM ET

August 13, 2010

@Ziaul, Why are u so ashamed

@Ziaul,
Why are u so ashamed of this country. Did you ever try to build or rebuild Pakistan. India still is not an ideal country (except economic reforms), as there lot of ethnic movements but still they are proud of their country. out side India, they are well known as NRI. I never observe them in criticizing India rather they try to serve India even they are out of India. If you concern with Pakistan then try to do something for it. I have seen and observed many Pakistanis who are so passionate and working for Pakistan anonymously.

@Ali,
Its our bad luck that we have person like Zardari. But please dont criticize FB. Like Imran Khan, we have another hope of honest and sincere leadership in her. While choosing Zardari proved also fatal for Bhutto family. Bhutto clan very well knows that he is behind the murder of both BB and MB. Even UN commission for BB murder case was asked not to take interviews from Babar Awan and Malik Sb.

Good Luck Pakistan
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MUNIB

3:35 AM ET

August 16, 2010

wahi mummy daddy lot

like the Mowlana sahib says in movie KHUDA ke liye . . Farm-House generation of the elites. Wahi typical thaki hui mari hui Oxford-Cambridge-LSE ki laffazian or word-play. Bhutto VIRUS hasnt died yet. These burger-KFC-kids can only sit and... give their "INTELLECTUAL" wisdom to the bhuka nunga mara hua gareeb through BROAD BAND wi-fi lines via Status-gap exchange Larkana/Raiwind etc.

Interior Sindh needs to wake up and kick on their ****

"Martyr Benazir" ??. . . Only in PAKISTAN one can call a chor-compliance a "Matyr"

do do ropey mei bik rahey hain PAKISTAN ke har gali mei Matyr Certificates . . . if anyone is interested in buying
I am sure by next decade there will be Matyr Lands and Matyr Farm houses and Matyr Banks and Matyr Telecoms etc. too

No vision, no wisdom, no direction . . . aik chor se jan chutti hy toh dusra ajata hy dusrey se jan chutti hy wo Pindi waley badmash ajatey hain . .

PAKISTAN is in deep ****

 

MAJA007

6:26 PM ET

August 4, 2010

Just saying

if you are that concerned about your country go back and try to improve situation. I know its tough living in a country that treats women and minorities like shit, give it a try.

And for the love of jinnah, stop making allegories to tragedies that happened in western countries. No. Mumbai attacks were not India's "9/11" and this is not zardari's "Katrina".

 

ZIAUL

3:50 PM ET

August 5, 2010

voila!

thank you!
I might be naive about alot of things but it is really lame to try to cash in your countrys domestic or regional calamities and trying to cash in on 'em.
I hate such hypocrisy n so would you.
I actually feel sorry for people like Fatima get educated at prestigious institutions n then go on to criticize the one identity that they have.
Please comment on the US n lifestyles over there, your interactions with george clooneys n n all cos commenting on a specialty area requires a resume. And commenting on a country requires that atleast you visit it in order to get a feel. Do not ASSUME... ASS-U-ME...

You guys come for a dozen a dime!

 

AHSON HASAN

8:36 PM ET

August 4, 2010

Zardari's Katrina

I have little sympathy or respect for Pakistani elite and that includes this article's author.

Whereas I understand, recognize and acknowledge her comments in this piece, I'm acutely aware of the fact that folks like Ms. Bhutto with rich backgrounds and vain and pompous families always have some axe to grind.

Having said that, I will not express skepticism about Ms. Bhutto and will reserve it from some other time and place. In the meantime, while Mr. Zardari stays occupied looting and plundering the public exchequer, there is little hope for the people of Pakistan to stabilize or steady themselves in any sphere of life.

The recent flooding is a sad but true depiction of modern-day Pakistan - it is a sinking ship, a truly failed state.

Mr. Zardari's election as president was by itself a slap on face of the people of Pakistan. A nation that elects a total creep, a true disaster such as this man has to be ashamed of itself. The guy has no scruples - he's an absolute ass.

The money spent on maintaining these imbeciles and the wretched of the earth like Mr. Zardari is perhaps the American taxpayer's hard earned effort. Funds directed to Islamabad from Washington are not being used for the tasks they are meant to accomplish.

While President Obama and Secretary Clinton have emphasized on the encouragement of human development projects, Pakistan remains pathetically backward and a broken entity. It resembles a glorified tribal area.

Notwithstanding British prime minister, David Cameron's recent remarks about Pakistan, one cannot but agree with him. Pakistan is playing a double-game and trying to fool around with the rest of the world. It is considered to be a front-line ally in the war again terrorism - this is certainly NOT true. Pakistan itself is a terrorist state.

Those who call the shots in Pakistan have been/are involved with the Taliban. Folks like Mr. Zardari and General Kayani are part and parcel of the deal. The Western world has been clearly warned in the recent years not to place undue trust on the devious Paki leadership.

Pakistan has broken all rules and have tried to test the patience of its allies and well wishers beyond reasonable and prudent limits. Their over-ambitious foreign policy goals have ended up killing any prospects of betterment of its teeming millions.

Mr. Zardari is a murderer, a scoundrel of the first order. Needless to say, Pakistanis are used to having such 'brilliant bastards' at the helm of affairs. With the exception of the country's founder, M. A. Jinnah, all those who have steered the destiny of Pakistan have been top class robbers, tragically in love with themselves but not the people over which they rule.

I came across a report in the media according to which former Paki prime minister, now in the opposition, Mr. Sharif criticizing Mr. Zardari for his absence in this time of need. Mr. Sharif, let me remind all concerned, was no less than anyone else when it came to wiping off funds from the state treasury.

Would Mr. Zardari's presence have mattered? Yes, it would have. The nation of Pakistan today finds itself literally on its knees, thanks to religious fanaticism and now this natural disaster of flooding. People needed moral support from their head of state; they are emotionally downtrodden at this time. Being that he is after all the president and because his party claims to represent the people, this was perhaps the best time to cement ties with the public-at-large.

Long story short, Pakistan is a failed state - it has lost its way big time. 'Leaders' like Mr. Zardari are the leeches that are busy sucking the last drops of blood from this rather lifeless body. They are 'allured' to stay in Pakistan because they know that cannot survive elsewhere - they are simply not good enough.

Whatever happens in the coming few months and years in Pakistan is something no one can predict. One thing, however, is easy to say - Pakistan is a total disaster and will probably never be able to stand on its own two feet.

It's good to discuss issues and Ms. Bhutto's piece is worth reading. However, losers like Mr. Zardari are think-skinned and hardened criminals. While he’s not only answerable to Ms. Bhutto for her father’s murder, he is responsible for mass-looting of the Pakistani nation.

 

SAIZY

4:37 AM ET

August 25, 2010

The fault is within us

Dear Mr. Ahson Hasan,

Pakistan is not a failed state. We have been conditioned over time to think it is a failed state. Nobody teaches patriotism in classrooms here. When I was 8, my father got posted to the States for six months in 1991. I joined school as per law there. I very vividly remember my new teacher asking us to draw "our" flag. Needless to say, I drew the Pakistani flag. When she saw my drawing she came over and said "Forget Pakistan. You are in America now. You can’t be a Pakistani any more". And she made me say "I love America" over and over.

I feel that this is the subconscious message all of us have grown up with. (Like you said, When donors give money, when IMF lends, there are conditions to be met on their own terms and not the recipient terms). Nobody is proud to be a Pakistani. We are ashamed of who we are because we have been trained to be ashamed. We are ashamed to speak Urdu and wear our national dress. We can all find faults with Pakistan but has anyone gotten up and said "Let’s fix this mess"? The ship will sink because we want it to sink. We are deliberately boring a hole.

Think about it. When nobody can find anything good in Pakistan, it will not attract any good. Just like when you read every night to a plant that you have planted, look at it with love every day, it will nourish and grow better then an unattended plant, Pakistan needs to be loved. If we all find it in our hearts to love our country, pay attention to it, all the negative forces (including corruption and dirty politics) will wash away. If we declare it as a failed state, it will fail. The choice is ours.

Dear Ms. Fatima Bhutto,

Thank you for thinking about Pakistan at such a time and voicing your concern. I may not agree with everything you say and I may question your motive, but, whatever your intentions, I would like to salute you for starting a debate that will get people to ask a lot of questions, argue about what is right and what is wrong, and in the process, may be, discover themselves, their identity and the roles that they can play for the betterment of Pakistan.

So from the bottom of my heart: Thank you.

Regards,
Sanna Aizad

 

ADNAN QURESHI

5:22 AM ET

August 5, 2010

here we go again !

Couldnt agree more with MAJA007, if Ms Bhutto is so concerned about the fate of Pakistan, she should head back and try to reign in matters. She ofcourse is in the enviable position of actually being able to do something, coming from a most elitist and influential family. Her false depiction of her father, who need I remind setup a terrorist organisation and hijacked a passenger plane as nothing less than a saint leads one to believe that even the current Bhutto generation has little to offer.
And what can I say about Mr Ahson Hasan. You remind me of a baby that has just popped out of the womb, completely oblivious to World affairs especially those pertaining to South Asia. Its true Pakistan finds itself in a perilous position but to blatantly blame Pakistan as the seed of all problems in the region is being highly ignorant. This is not the time or place for me to lecture you on the Soviet-Afghan War and its remnants and how Pakistan has sufferred thereafter. Bottom line being Western (read American) interference in the region over the years along with a tussle amongst the World powers for regional dominance has led to the current state of affairs. I am not completely absolving Pakistan of its actions and do believe that had we been fortunate enough to have intelligent visionaries who truly held a deep sense of attachment with the Country and its people, things would have been different. The current clown brigade that is doing rounds in London these days aptly sums up the misfortune that the friendly and peace loving people of Pakistan have had to put up with, yet their resolve remains strong and God willing the tide will turn.

Long live Pakistan.

 

AHSON HASAN

8:13 PM ET

August 5, 2010

Stop pointing fingers at others please...

Mr. Qureshi, I'm not sure if your acute sense of awareness of 'world affairs' is sharp enough to teach you a lesson or two about history. Being a student of international affairs, I understand that nations that do not have the will or the power to stand up and be counted eventually perish.

Blaming the Soviet-Afghan War does not exonerate Pakistan and Pakistanis from the responsibility of killing their own people and selling their morals on the street. Nor does pointing fingers at the Western world for interference in your affairs will ever make you successful.

Pakistan allowed all this to happen - it opened its borders to the Afghans. Zia was hungry for pocketing US dollars, for gaining incentives for his 'boys', the generals who surrounded him, for spreading Wahabism to appease the Saudis.

Who opened doors for Western 'interference'? Pakistanis needed a joint, coherent effort to become self-sufficient after Independence. Instead, they started to export consumer items, military hardware and stuff that India, across the border, was manufacturing right there in India.

Who accepted tons foreign aid? When donors give money, when IMF lends, there are conditions to be met on their own terms and not the recipient terms. Pakistan has always and always been in a 'subordinate' position and never in a 'superior' situation.

Mr. Qureshi, I suggest that the Pakistanis should rise above themselves and learn lessons from countries like India - a grand success story of modern times. Open up your hearts and your minds, accept that you need to improve and work on the betterment of your nation.

 

FAROOQ AHMED

4:00 PM ET

August 6, 2010

The Buttos and Pakistan

I totally agree with Adnan. While whatever Fatima has written about Zardari is correct, I would ask her what is the difference between Zardari and herself. Both are belong to feudal (not sure on the spellings here, but then who cares). While Zardari is a dacoit of Pakistan's wealth Mir Murtaza Buttoo himself was a known terrorist himself. He established and ran Al-Zulfiqar, hijacked planes, killed politicians and judges in the country, carried out a long list of terrorist activities. He was only assassinated because of the tussle between him and his sister Benazir as to who would have control over the family property, both legitimate and other wise and also of the Pakistan Peoples Party.

Unfortunately, good or bad, right or wrong, the people of Pakistan have elected Zardari and the Peoples Party to the Parliament and the President House. And so, we have to accept it that we are only getting what we voted to get.

 

ZEESHAN

6:05 AM ET

August 5, 2010

Zardari's Katrina

Whenever I hear the word Bhutto, corruption comes to my mind.
Its a pity that the middle class (mostly educated people of Pakistan) have never stood up to these corrupted elites (mostly feudal lords). Its a mistake more on part of the poor majority of Pakistan that worship these feudal lords. Ms. Bhutto, who writes this article, is not an angel who descends from skies to solve the problems of Pakistan. Infact, her family is among the families of feudal lords whose has been ruling Pakistan for ever since. Be it Shareefs, Chaudaries, Bhutto, Soomros, Bugtis, Khans and so so these are some families name to mention that have spoiled and plundered Pakistan for ever since.
Ms. Fatima Bhutto has no means of defending her grandfather, her aunt of the corruption they did in their own time as leaders of Pakistan and she has done nothing to prove she is different from what her family is. She has all but words as all politicians here in Pakistan have.
Your criticism of Mr.Zardari is a well known family feud and nothing else. If its truly different than it seems you have to prove yourself first. Otherwise, you can rest because Mr.Zardari already has thousands of critics writing about him in Pakistan and abroad. You are a tiny drop in this ocean.

 

MR FRONIX

6:44 AM ET

August 5, 2010

Well said Zeeshan and Adnan

Ms Bhutto, after reading your article and the following comments by these boys, I have concluded that your only highlighting the luxurious life of your uncle :The 10 Percent. Your family's past history is very well known to our countrymen. If you are any different from them, please show it by doing something for this drowning country, not just some healthy insight to the situation we are already aware of. This way you might save the word "Bhutto" from the curses of the poor people of Pakistan.

As for Ahson Hasan: If you are one of us, I am ashamed to call you a fellow countryman because its people like you who had already given up on their country and blurring the future for those who have little hope left for this country. If you are not one of us, then you have no right to judge us because you have not witnesses the disasters we went through in these past 10 years. The aftermath of Soviet - Afghan war is the reason we are suffering from these accusations of being Terrorist. All we need is to get rid of all the corrupt and uneducated politicians. The young generation of Pakistan is eagerly waiting for the real REVOLUTION and Inshallah it will come sooner than you think.

 

AHSON HASAN

8:27 PM ET

August 5, 2010

Revolution?

Mr. Fronix: Would you mind defining REAL REVOLUTION? Haven't we heard this from each successive Pakistani generation?

I suggest that Pakistanis should get their basics right. Has anyone ever talked about the true, human needs of the people there - education, human rights, health?

How awful it is that every 5 to 10 years, there is this talk of real revolution. When the dialogue gains momentum, the cries of change spread, eventually the military takes over.

How many times has this circus already been repeated? How many more generations will yearn for this real revolution?

Work on putting your house in order and then look elsewhere. History may have been treated Pakistan unfairly but nations make their respective histories themselves. Work for the welfare of your people, create solid systems, establish enlightened citizenship, create responsible leadership - you'll soon experience the positive results.

Do not believe in shortcuts, do not think too much about the past; learn from the experience of successful nations and move on. Acknowledge that you have lost too much of ground and work on cutting your losses.

As far as judging Pakistan is concerned, my friend, having keenly studied, experienced and observed South Asia, I reserve the right to express my opinion, just like any concerned citizen of this beautiful world we live in.

 

CEOUNICOM

10:23 PM ET

August 5, 2010

re:

""Work on putting your house in order and then look elsewhere. History may have been treated Pakistan unfairly but nations make their respective histories themselves. ""

Well put.

Victimhood is no basis for a national identity. Which too often seems to be the case with Pakistan. It also deviates people from realistic objectives - like infrastructure, education, health, economic growth - and instead into ridiculous obsessions over ethnicity, religion, political party affiliation, 'national greatness', etc.

Reading comments on this site from people like Lal Qila/A.Khan/Hindutva have been extremely depressing, because of the prevalence of this sort of mindset. But it is nice to hear occasionally from more rational Pakistanis, which are like a breath of fresh air compared to their rhetoric. It does make one wonder though, what the actual consensus in Pakistan is like. I get the impression sometimes the rationalists are well in the minority.

 

MUSTNOTSLEEP14

8:19 AM ET

August 5, 2010

The idiotic Pakistani voting

The idiotic Pakistani voting population put this obviously inept man in office simply because of who he was married to. Blame the Pakistani people for creating this dynasty, they deserve more blame than Zardari's unsurprising corruption. Pakistan is a lost cause. The US should cut off aid and India should close its border and play a proxy war in Afghanistan vs Pakistan's Taliban allies. The world needs to contain Pakistan, and let them deal with their natural disasters by themselves. Perhaps the North Koreans can help them out, they seem to actually have similar values.

 

AHMED CHOUDHARY

8:26 AM ET

August 5, 2010

pseudo-intellectual or intellectual gold digger, Still lets hear

first i will like to agree with Mr Fronix Remark regarding people deserting their country and country man. and also impress by their stubborn attitude to dictate people opinion of country which they have abandoned.
secondly i will like to know Ms Bhutto stand on "dynastic coronation ", is is based on principle of democracy within political party or just because she is left out. As if her stand is of principle then i will say Ghinwa Bhutto( her step mother) chairman ship of PPP-SB is also an example of "dynastic coronation "
People were really looking forward to a new plate form for old ppp worker, if only they had let the PPP founding personalities gather and run the party. But to no surprise this was only struggle for family property.
i do think if Miss Bhutto come and gather old people and let the party be run democratically. she could earn name for her self instead for being niece or grand daughter of some one

 

A U R A N G Z E B K H A N

8:54 AM ET

August 5, 2010

Ms. Fatima Bhutto, thank you for speaking up

Ms. Fatima Bhutto, thank you for speaking up and thank you for continuing to speak up.

Pakistan needs a thoughtful, educated, liberal voice and you are one of the few of this very small minority. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Zardari is wrong to be swanning around in Europe whilst Pakistan is drowning. Of course he should be in Pakistan to do whatever he can during this flood emergency.

I am not a civil engineer, but I suspect the rivers of Pakistan have not been dredged, raising the river beds and thus making them more prone to flooding. This is just a symptom of many many problems that beset Pakistan.

Pakistan has a very tiny educated leadership, my calculations suggest its only 1%. The implication is that 99% of Pakistan is being run by the 1%. Imagine any system, from a systems engineering point of view, where 99% of it was rather dysfunctional.

In my opinion, lack of education of the masses is the curse. That is the reason for massive corruption, over population, too much imbibing in religion and too little attention paid to education, rational thinking and actual hard work.

Pakistan has to find very creative ways to leapfrog into 21st century and the first step should be to improve the retention rates in primary schools in villages from 20% to 90% even if we have to provide token scholarships to every child. This is obviously a generational project.

Indian machinations on both sides of Pakistan and American unthinking and stubborn pressures are not helpful. They distract and defocus Pakistan.

Perhaps, Pakistan should cut-off all supplies to the American Occupier in Afghanistan and then at least one of Pakistan's monsters will wither away.

Pakistan is certainly in choppy waters and a firm hand of a skipper is needed on the tiller.

Where is that firm hand?

While I am all for democracy, but I don't think there is such a thing as a democracy without education or democracy for the blind or democracy whilst the ship is adrift in a storm.

What say ye?

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

CEOUNICOM

10:30 PM ET

August 5, 2010

What say ye?

Dude, at least we know now that the other version of you (Babur? I can't remember) is at least identified now. The "what say ye" is now about as obvious as Suresh's 'Mollycoddling'.

By the way, this almost sounded like the most rational thing you've ever written. If you excluded the conspiratorial elements at least. Your 'distracted and disfocused-ness' is your own mindset; not the product of outsiders. Get your act together and you will likely stop obsessing over perceived enemies. Step one is the most important.

 

TRYINGTOBERATIONAL

9:09 AM ET

August 5, 2010

government of the elite, by the elite, for the elite

So why single out Zardari? His Pops in law was an elite so was his wife. Mr. Sharif is an elite so is Chaudhry.
Only exception to this rule may be Mr. Musharraf!

I am sorry if I ruffle any feathers here but frankly Pakistan was conceived by the elites it has been run by the elites mostly to the benefit of the elites.

Even though Mr. Ahson absolves Mr. Jinnah of eliteness. He was a quintessential elite. Aloof, suave, polished. A complete anti-thesis to Gandhi.
"An Often told indecent about Jinnah claims that during one of his most important speeches, he asked where the foreign press was and remarked that he was not here to speak to all these illiterate Muslims!"
(I am quoting this from memory so no reference to support the above)

The whole founding of the nation was based on the thinking of the Muslim elites acutely nostalgic of the Muslim rule on an overwhelming part of India.
The average Muslim Yusuf frankly cared more about his Roji Roti than the grand dream of Pak.

After her founding the elitism continued unabated and unabashed. The feudal system was never broken down.
In India, while there were elites ( Nehru for one) elitism was frowned upon. Gandhi made it fashionable to be common. Patel was common and so were many many regional and national leaders.
So many Indian elites in fact have to masquerade as common people to get elected ( Remember Shashi Tharoor?)

Fatima Bhutto is no different from Zardari. Just another face of the same coin. She has an ax to grind and grind she will wherever she finds print space.

Many Pakistanis love to present India as a cesspool of cast-ridden Hindu ( Oops Hindoo, their preferred spelling) mess where people at the lower rung have no opportunity of advancement. But A careful examination will reveal otherwise. Albeit at a glacial pace, the lower rugs of the society are moving up. Politics is where they have risen the quickest, followed by business, bureaucracy and they are slowly doing it in education and other knowledge industry. ( Grand success ? No Work in progress? yes)

A casual survey of professional Pakistani and Indian immigrants to the US will confirm my point. An overwhelming percentage of expat Pakistanis are elites as compared to a much lower percentage of Indians.
A great percentage of Alumni of Agha Khan Medical college from Pakistan tend to be ultra super elites and almost entire graduating class immigrates to the US wherewas you do not see that trend with IIT or AIMS graduates from India.

Wherever you go, the fact is that elites will come out ahead.. Money and power are wonderful force multipliers... but the key is to not block the non-elites. The game is rigged but rig it less is what I say

 

LEILA KHAN

10:36 AM ET

August 5, 2010

Another criticism and no effort !

For the victims to blame and criticize Zardari for not being in the country is totally understandable. But for those who only complain and write about their opinions and views, pin pointing at others mistakes and about what they are not doing is so much more baseless and foolish.
The only question that raises in my head while reading this article is...even if the President is not in the country while millions suffer..where is your contribution? You can sit in another country and cry about how unreasonable and selfish the President is but you certainly cannot seem to do your part in the first place.
Do something yourself, prove to the people in need that you have done as much as you could - then you complain, it's totally reasonable.

 

NAUMAAN

9:07 PM ET

August 13, 2010

Leila, Please read "Economic

Leila,
Please read "Economic collapse" by Cyril Almeida in Daily Dawn

Every single Pakistani is trying to help through various means, but this is more serious disaster than Tsunami, while President is the symbol of national unity, and PM is the Chief Executive (according to 18th Amendment passed by newly democratic govt). Cabinet is chosen by PM and not by President. Why President went with most of the cabinet members? Did you observe any leader went to overseas trip when Tsunami happened in Indonesia, Malaysia and other countries?
Its their duty to lead the nation by standing and supporitng day n night. Its an emegency. But Zardari dont cares because he knows that supporters like you are with him. So he is now going to Moscow. Cheers

 

BEN-PK

1:49 PM ET

August 5, 2010

Let us condemn Fatima Bhutto....

I think we should all condemn Fatima Bhutto for maligning the person of Pakistan's most popular, loved, honest and sincere President. If you don't believe me, ask PPP's die-hard workers like Babar Awan, Rehman Malik, Fauzia Wahab who gave their blood and sweat for the PPP. Fatima should also have commented on the eligibility of Bilawal Bhutto to lead Pakistan. By the way, why Bhutto's treat Pakistan as their personal fiefdom and consider it their birth right to rule Pakistanis? Their party has only produced these mujahideen and is protecting them. You can read about them in: http://fmeducation.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/the-whole-nation-should-salute-these-mujahideen/

 

NAUMAAN

9:16 PM ET

August 13, 2010

what a joke !!!

Ben-PK,
Are you kidding or serious !!!
Babar Awan & Rehman Malik did not gave blood for PPP, but for Zardari. Rather they take blood of BB. UN commission for BB murder probe was asked not take interviews of both these persons especially by Zardari :)
Bhutto clan knows very well about the reality behind the murders of Murtaza Bhutto and BB (the real blood of Zulfiqar Ali bhutto).

 

MJABBASI

3:24 PM ET

August 5, 2010

Jumping to Conclusions.

After reading Ms. Bhutto's article and the following comments, I cannot help but agree with alot of what she says and express surprise at many of the comments. Is most of what Ms. Bhutto has said untrue?? I don't think so, and she is not alone in criticizing this foreign trip of Mr. Z. There are plenty more doing that this very minute. Its all over the news. So she's a Bhutto and related to the family? Is that her fault? She didn't ask to be born a Bhutto and frankly I think she has a good head screwed on her shoulders and I hope she has the good sense not to ever venture into Pakistani politics. In that country, its better to be an observer than a participant.

 

INDRAVEER

9:18 PM ET

August 5, 2010

All Criminals

I wonder what Ms Fatima Bhutto thinks of her gangster grandfather who killed his opponents while PM and was hanged for it. Also what are her thoughts about her terrorist father and uncle. The only reason she is not indulging in crimes is because she is a woman! Pakistan's tragedy: it's criminal politicians. Pakistan the most dangerous place on earth because of it's politicians.

 

SSIDDIQUI

9:24 PM ET

August 5, 2010

To those who are Pakistani,

To those who are Pakistani, yet have given up on your nation, I condemn you for abandoning your homeland. You now have a blemish upon your reputation. One that may not be visible to the naked eye, but is visible to your brothers and sisters still in your native Pakistan. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

Rather than concede defeat so easily, you should be standing up and helping your country. If not with your time and money, at least with your words and a little bit of confidence. You are cowards of the lowest stock.

As for Mr. Zardari, he is nothing but an uneducated, illiterate oaf. He is a thief who should be run out of office. He deserves nothing but a jail cell. In fact, he is most probably responsible for the death of his wife, a woman as corrupt as he. His son will be no better in office.

As for those who judge Pakistan for having supported the Taliban, remember that the Americans too supported them. In fact it is the Americans who were responsible for creating the Taliban. Now it is Pakistan that is suffering from the actions of America.

As for India, their situation is no better than Pakistan. Their politics are as corrupt and filled with the elite. Their government is most likely supporting some kind of terrorist cell for their own purpose as well. Don't be so blind to your own country's sins.

The Pakistan I know and love is not dead yet, nor will it be until it's citizens stop raising their voice in support of their motherland. Pakistan is a developing nation fraught with difficulty and a lack of support. It needs time to develop a system that works for it. This is not something one can expect to occur overnight.

 

TRYINGTOBERATIONAL

8:33 AM ET

August 6, 2010

This is an intellectual discourse not a place to wave flag

Siddiqui
Your passion filled post more or less asks all "rational Pakistani" posters to stop analyzing and become flag waving Pakistanis. That is not the point of this message board.
Bile and hate filled posts aside, there are some sincere folks here, (AHsan, IZ among them) who are posting things as they see those.

as to America supporting Taliban, the point has been made ad-nauseum. The point "here and now" is; what is best for Pakistan and how can they do what they need to do.

Hiding behind "America does this" and "India does that" does no good to Pakistan.

If Pakistan sincerely thinks that her and America's interests do not align, she ought to resign from this coalition and stand on her own. ( Like Iran does) America will then find an alternate way. The problem is, the Pakistani establishment wants to be a beggar and yet a chooser too. That is a tough thing to accomplish.

Your natural instinct in taking solace in India's misery is very typical of Pakistani mindset too.
If India sucks, it is bad for India and it is bad for Pakistan ( just like a sucky Pakistan is bad for India too). If you see Indian boards you will see hefty doses of " we suck" postings.

Nobody is saying that Pakistan is dead. A dead Pakistan will stink up the whole world not just the neighborhood. Even people who do not love it ( ie; America) do not want it dead.
Unfortunately it will not be kept alive; let alone nursed to strength; by flag waving. Right now it is being nursed on begged nourishment, scrapes thrown by western nations for it to stop being trouble. It can change only when people who you plea to, will actually create and industrial economy, a paranoia free populace and a rule of law.

 

SKKHAN

12:00 AM ET

August 6, 2010

Discord - Pakistani style

I am not surprised the amount of bile being spewed by the comments on this page. It would have been truly surprising that, for once, Pakistanis would actually stop making ad hominem attacks and instead focused on her message. One can only take responsibility for one's own actions - at least give her credit for speaking out against the legacy of her own family. In a country where everything runs on 'biradari' she has done more than most by taking a stand, and a public one at that.

 

SUNDBOELL

12:25 AM ET

August 6, 2010

Finger pointing

What I find curious is that of the combined volume of comments on this article, ALL concern themselves with finger pointing; who should stay home, whose fault it is and whether Pakistan would be better off with or without these people.

Ms Fatima - for the right or the wrong reasons - brings up a horrible situation in your home country and not one comments on WHAT can be done, HOW you will help or what YOU will do to help your beloved country.

Knowledge of foreign policy, history and the intimate lives of your political elite are great coffee shop conversations - or good to show off your knowledge in a prestigious magazine. But I dare you - including Ms Fatima - to show me examples of efforts you are doing, initiatives you are starting, fund raising you are doing - or how you yourselves are on the ground with those poor people.

Anyone ?

 

USMAN80

2:09 PM ET

August 6, 2010

Zaradari , the ten percent and thanks to Fatima for speaking

It is great that some body is openly expressing the inner stories of Zaradari and it coorruption and adempness and stuborn attitude of Zaradari when the whole country in in trouble and he is enjoying the luxuary in the expensive hotels in the world at the cost of national exchecker.

Fatima did a breave thing and i condemn all the criticism which most of the people did in the favour of corrupt Zaradari , Mr ten percent.

First of all i make it clear to all that Zaradri is a cunning person and the reson for the fall of the both the Govt of BB was the corruption by Zaradri.

Zaradri held BB in a very crook way and the money starving Zardari married BB in the result of black mailing.
Had ZA Bhutto been alive till then , He would have killed suich a cunning person and eliminate all the Zaradari family. But the time did not let this happen and the tricks of Zardari did a timely job for him a great success.

Even Zardari was such a cruel person that he often used to beat BB.

In the last stage of BB life , there was no interaction bewteen the two. there was a separation between these two.

BB in her last years of life , kept this Parasie Zaradari away from her.

It was her murder that let Zaradri to creep in and start doing what he used to do under the Prmie M

 

I ARE ME

2:21 PM ET

August 6, 2010

lmao

LMAO @ the comments. Itz just an article. read and move on!

 

I ARE ME

2:42 PM ET

August 6, 2010

green & white

P.S. : Long live crescent and the star!

 

ZAFFARH

5:12 AM ET

August 7, 2010

Pakistanis to the core

The insensitivity is nowhere better illustrated than by some of the comments and the decision of President Asif Ali Zardari to carry on with a visit to Britain, despite the crises in our homeland. The poor families made destitute by the floods are in no mood to worry about our opinions. They need help and that’s what we should all be focused on.

 

SALLAMADALLAMA

9:11 AM ET

August 7, 2010

zardari

nice share, good article, very usefull for me…thanks gizli cekim

 

AZAROBI

2:44 PM ET

August 7, 2010

Baffled

amazed to see so many posts badgering at Fatima. Shes speaking the truth ..period. Keep it up girl.

 

PANTHERCAT

5:19 PM ET

August 7, 2010

Governmental behavior

When Condi Rice first learned of Hurricane Katrina, her first instinct was to go shopping for expensive shoes and I believe the first thing Bush wanted to do was play a round of golf. There doesn't appear to be a lot of difference between our two governments. The words to a song once went "we asked for leaders and got gamblers instead."

 

I ARE ME

9:24 AM ET

August 8, 2010

the saintz r coming - U2

that's a valid point.
however its the freaking insensitivity which hurts the most; cause our brethren are dying & our elected leaders' are least bothered by it.

 

MAHA

9:13 AM ET

August 8, 2010

the obvious truth

Fatima has portrayed the truth. Pakistani (nation + system) needs sincere and dedicated leaders; not Zardari & family and etc..

 

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August 8, 2010

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NIDA

5:57 AM ET

August 9, 2010

bus ker do bus

can't she write any thing different?? all the time same writings, same criticism.. how boring. it seems as if she keeps her eye all the time on Zardari family.. gaushhh what a waste of time.

 

RK24

6:51 AM ET

August 9, 2010

Presidents Visit

What can the president of Pakistan do being in Pakistan when at the end of the day you need huge amounts of money to save the people who are effected by the floods in our country. The people with whom he was was led by two ministers and he himself with the security personnels. The minister of info himself said he was living with his friend and not in the hotel. Media created this hype to show the people of unfortunate it is that our president is out of the country. Media is trying to fool people with what ever story they want to air. We need money to save the people as Pakistan has to pledge from different countries as they do not have any way out of it.

 

MEHDI RAZA

11:56 AM ET

August 9, 2010

shame what a shame

I am a war refugee from 1991 gulf war ... and a masters in International relations and a masters in historic studies ... with a contra view to politics ....

First off all all those who are constantly bashing Fatima Bhutto, get a grip of urselves some one even wrote ASS-U-ME tsk tsk .... after all she is a female a gentle behavior is expected towards a women in all rime n religion ....

and for those who say sacrificed they blood my friend the ones who actually worked for PPP with the gift of their blood are no where to be seen :)

For those who call Pakistan a failed state are the " MAHA JAHIL "

for those who say what would zardari do if he was here i am surprised at ur misdirection tell me if ur house was burning n you couldn’t do any thing to save it would you go out n party or would you stand by the rest of the members and try throw a bucket of water

for those who say the public chose zardari hahhaahhaah where do you get this from ... go get ur facts straight ....

well Fatima Bhutto has the resource most of you if had the money and the resource to leave this country ud be on the first flight out of here so that makes u no different

I witnessed just on one note we have so many disagreements no one paid attention to what she tried to state every one just jumped at her hidden motive n its a shame you mock ones family it shows reading n writing English doesn’t make a person literate it how you think is the problem

After reading all the disrespectful comments I believe its all of us why Pakistan suffers ..... Mr Z or not what have you done and what ever you did dint you have a hidden motive behind it ........

ok fine the Govt. messed up what has the so called private sector done but eat approx $800 million n send it abroad what of their social responsibilities

and pls don’t curse ZAB he was the only visionary n non sell out of the nation .... pls study history and them play ur words

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

7:06 PM ET

August 9, 2010

Not a well-wrtitten piece.

It attracts a lot of disparate reactions because it is a disparate effusion; the sort of thing one might expect from Sarah Palin had she stayed at school a few weeks longer.

 

KHAN SAHIB

10:24 PM ET

August 9, 2010

Please do not use Bhutto and Palin in the same sentence

One is a bright sunny summery day and the other is night, a cold, frigid, nightmarish night.

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

5:38 AM ET

August 10, 2010

My apologies

There is a style of thinking and writing that is essentially emotional rather than rational; it proceeds at a rattling pace picking up bits and pieces as they come to hand until it flops down exhausted. It is almost impossible to unravel since it is not susceptible to logic and is better suited to demagoguery than the written word. Palin is a champion at it; this piece is in a similar mould. I infer no other comparison between the ladies.

 

KHAN SAHIB

10:34 PM ET

August 9, 2010

I want to point the finger of blame on the West for floods

as these are the results of West's Global Warming. The West is fully responsible for the global warming and its consequences.

Let's sue the West, viz, Europe and America for trillions of dollars of damange to the envirionement.

What say ye?

lalqila.wordpress.com

 

REZAN

4:32 AM ET

August 10, 2010

Rezan

Fatima Bhutto is right in criticising Mr Zardari. Time and time again Zardari has proved to be a callous ,insensitive,greedy, opportunist person who took complete advantage of his departed wife's fame to don the mantle of the ruler of Pakistan.Ask yourselves this question. What did Zardari do to deserve the postion as president of Pakistan. ZA Bhutto may have used over handedness during his rule n Pakistan but he certainly was an astute politician and sent tremors in the world of political rivals by his courageous honest rhetoric. Bhutto was sincere with his people.He introduced lot of reforms. Moreover he was an educated politician juggling with socialist,religious and nationalistic ideas most remarkably. His foreign policy was probably the best in the world. He maintained a good relationship with the entire world .He forged a sound relationship with China and all countries of the Middle East. Zardari is just an irresponsible clown compared to ZA Bhutto.or Benazir Bhutto for that matter.
But the question remains why did the people of Pakistan vote in favour of Zardari in spite of knowing his unworthy background. The answer is that Pakistan has population of 65% illiterates. People do not understand what is right and what is not for their country. The superfluously greedy and exploitative politicians take advantage of this and fool them from time to time. Honest and decent people are pushed aside in Pakistan in the unfortunate name of narrow ethnic politics much to the detriment of Pakistan's progress. Pakistan can never never progress until and unless every Pakistani thinks of himself as a Pakistani first and not as a Punjabi,Sindhi, Pathan, Mohajir etc .
The example can be taken from India where the government is made of politicians who come from all parts of the country. North,south east and west. They speak totally different languages,look physically different,follow different cultures,have totally different kind of educational background according to their native areas. Yet they all proudly call themselves as Indians and not as Punjabis,Keralites,Kannadigans,Maharashtrians,Telegus,Tamilians etc. This is the probably the secret of India's remarkable hold on democracy. Tomorrow if the head of a state is either killed or removed a peaceful transfer of power takes place. In Pakistan it is like a civil war all the time. Having said this far right extremist parties do pose a problem for the country but are often reined in.
Pakistan needs responsible politicians thoroughly honest and committed to the development of pakistan. Pakistan needs a Fidel Castro or a Chavez. Not corrupted ignorant individuals.

 

KHAN SAHIB

11:20 AM ET

August 10, 2010

Pakistan needs massive education for its masses

Otherwise it will continue becomming a bigger and bigger basket case because of many reasons, including 60+ years of Hindoo Indian machinations, American-Russian Cold war and now America's foolish attempt to become an American Empire in the 21st century.

But, Pakistan's biggest failure is in lack of education for its masses. 80% of the population does not even have primary school education. The schools are there but the school masters are sleeping.

Here is another idea: Put all rural education in the hands of the Pakistan Army Education Corps or staff the Ministry of Education with retired officers and regular audits and presence in schools and villages.

An educated populace will not drink stale water or follow stale ideas, they will become critical thinkers and finally join the 21st century.

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JAWAD TAHIR

1:00 PM ET

August 11, 2010

Crisp yet brutal. In mexico Z

Crisp yet brutal.

In mexico Z meant Zorro. Here Z means ullu ka patha