Spoiler Alert

The United States and Israel have long attempted to cut Hamas out of the diplomatic game. But as direct talks kick off in Washington, the party appears more than happy to sit on the sidelines.

BY AMJAD ATALLAH | SEPTEMBER 2, 2010

On Aug. 31, four Israeli settlers were killed by Palestinian gunmen near the West Bank city of Hebron. Abu Obeida, the spokesman for Hamas's military wing, the Qassam Brigades, said the group "announces its full responsibility for the heroic operation in Hebron."

The killings suggest that Hamas will overreach in trying to gain political capital from widespread Palestinian opposition to the negotiations hosted by U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington this week. This may weaken Hamas at the expense of secular parties opposed to the format of the talks, but not necessarily to the gain of Fatah, the flagging party headed by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.

The negotiations come on the heels of four months of failed "proximity talks," in which the Ramallah-based Palestinian leadership and U.S. special envoy George Mitchell were unable to productively engage the Israelis on any of the core issues of the dispute or even convince the Israelis to agree on an agenda for the talks. Abbas, like virtually all other Palestinian politicians, had insisted that Israel agree to basic parameters for negotiations and end continued settlement activity on occupied Palestinian territory. Having to climb down without any of his terms being met has emboldened other Palestinian leaders, parties, and organizations, which have united to denounce the talks.

As Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu head to the negotiating table, some observers are lamenting the Obama administration's failure to include Hamas in its diplomatic engagement efforts. But given the relative unanimity of so many groups opposing the talks in their current format, this complaint misses the point. Hamas leaders do not want to be part of negotiations because they are confident they will fail.

What defines "failed talks" for Hamas? On a practical level, Hamas would consider talks that entrench Fatah's authority over liberated territory at its expense as a failure. The concern over whether Palestine will have a pluralistic political system is one of great concern to Palestinians -- concern that has only been deepened by the continuing entrenchment of political power both in the Gaza Strip and in West Bank cities administered by the Palestinian Authority.

But when it comes to its views on a final settlement to the conflict, Hamas shares many of the same positions as other secular Palestinian parties, including Fatah. These groups similarly believe that any negotiations must end the occupation that Israel began in 1967 and ensure Palestinians' ability to exercise sovereignty over their state. Yes, Hamas has demanded the Palestinian right of return for millions of Palestinians and their descendants who were displaced before, during, and after Israel's creation in 1948, but the group has never suggested a practical means to obtain this goal. Hamas would certainly consider talks that "sign away" Palestinian rights as a failure. But again, this is a standard position of Fatah as well. This accordance of views suggests that, under the right conditions, Hamas's inclusion in a Palestinian national movement that endorses negotiations could potentially strengthen the chances for peace.

(True, Hamas, like the Israeli political parties on the right such as the governing Likud, have charters, party platforms, or constitutions that contradict their more reasonable publicly stated positions. However, waiting for ideological consistency in either case is probably counterproductive.)

Some in Hamas likely favor continuing its cease-fire with Israel and trying to reap political capital from the daily humiliations it expects Netanyahu to inflict on the Palestinian negotiators. Yet the Aug. 31 attack on settlers suggest that not everyone in the group believes the talks will fail on their own.

MAHMUD HAMS/AFP/Getty Images

 

Amjad Atallah is the co-director of the Middle East Task Force at the New America Foundation.

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BIFOCALPOINT

9:39 PM ET

September 2, 2010

It's a first: Netanyahu does not condemn a call for Genocide.

See my full analysis at http://bifocalpoint.blogspot.com/2010/08/its-first-netanyahu-does-not-condemn.html

 

AVNER STEIN

10:12 PM ET

September 2, 2010

Flotilla vs murder

Compare the international moral outrage when 9 homicidal Turks were gunned down in self-defense by Israeli seals while enforcing a legal blockade.

But when 4 Israeli CIVILIANS were MURDERED in their CARS as they drive down a road the world is silent. The UN is silent. Everyone doesn't give a shit.

You know how the 1st intifada started? A dozen Arabs were killed in a car accident and the Palestinians said it was an Israeli conspiracy.

And yet here is Israel, restraining itself and the military leadership even sent out a memo telling Israeli soldiers to maintain discrimination and do not enter Palestinian cities.

What would the reaction be if 4 American CIVILIANS were murdered by AL QAEDA in their own CARS driving down an interstate in AMERICA?

Fuck, it would be world-news. But Israel...no.

 

AVNER STEIN

2:08 AM ET

September 3, 2010

Derp Derp

Israel doesn't stop shit - it control its border with Gaza. Big deal? Hamas shoots hundreds of rockets at Israel per month, not to mention frequent attack on soldiers guarding the AID CROSSINGS.

Apparently the Palestinians have enough to build 5 star hotels, olympic size swimming pools, and shopping malls with 10ft water fountains and 30 fast food restaurants.

I won't debate the routine collective punishment Israel dishes out, but this war was started by Hamas. I bet if Mexico or Canada was shooting rockets at your neighborhood you would want to use the superior might of our military to END IT. I also bet US forces would never shoot to fight in positions like schools that would cause civilians just to take pictures to win the affection of the liberals and international press.

Palestinians are 100% wrong and they only get sympathy from liberals who always side with the underdog no matter how stupid.

Who collects the most casualties is a function of who is weaker, nothing to do with morality. The fact that Israeli soldiers did not die on the flotilla is a good thing. This blood-thirsty leftist craving is quite disturbing. In their mind only death matters. The fact that Israel values life bugs the shit out of them.

 

DAV305Z

8:04 AM ET

September 3, 2010

Lovely intellectual summersaults

So Hamas is killing civilians to force the end of these talks because it knows the talks will fail? Right.

 

NAUFALA

11:26 PM ET

September 25, 2010

Peace

I hope peace is imminent.
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YARINSIZ

12:48 PM ET

September 29, 2010

And yet here is Israel,

And yet here is Israel, restraining itself and the military leadership even sent out a memo telling Israeli soldiers to sesli chat maintain discrimination and do not enter Palestinian cities.

 

DANIELLA

10:02 AM ET

September 30, 2010

The "terror" is

The "terror" is self-inflicted. When you threaten to take the land and push the Jews into the sea and target and murder Israeli women and children, there is a natural response.
"ethnic cleansing"?
When there are more than SIX TIMES MORE people alive than at the start of the "cleansing", then the Israelis are doing a piss poor job at "cleansing"!?

 

LAURINE BACAK

8:09 AM ET

October 1, 2010

Spoiler Alert

The United States and Israel have long attempted to cut Hamas out of the diplomatic game. But as direct talks kick off in Washington, the party appears more than happy to sit on the sidelines. Israel doesn't stop shit - it control its border with Gaza. Big deal? Hamas shoots hundreds of rockets at Israel per month, not to mention frequent attack on soldiers guarding the AID CROSSINGS. Apparently the Palestinians have enough to build 5 star hotels, olympic size swimming pools, and shopping malls with 10ft water fountains and 30 fast food restaurants. "(True, Hamas, like the Israeli political parties on the right such as the governing Likud, have charters, party platforms, or constitutions that contradict their more reasonable publicly stated positions hp q2612a cartridge. However, waiting for ideological consistency in either case is probably counterproductive. )" Armed resistance is not a child play it is a strategic decision that requires considerable thought. Hamas does not have the political and strategic depth. Hamas reminds me of Yasser Arafat and Fatah in early days.