An Unnecessary War

Afghanistan used to be the central front in the war against terrorism. Now it's a distraction from it.

BY JAMES TRAUB | OCTOBER 29, 2010

Bergen also takes issue with the claim that the Taliban wouldn't be as foolish as to let al Qaeda tag along if and when they re-occupy much of southern and eastern Afghanistan. The Taliban are not "rational actors," he says. "Housing al Qaeda was not a rational act. And there's no reason to believe they would behave any differently from the way they did before." Nor, says Bergen, is it correct to say that the Taliban have no goals beyond overthrowing the governments of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Some sub-groups do; others don't.

How can one predict whether or not Taliban leaders will do what Westerners would deem the rational thing? Patrick Cronin, a national security specialist with the Center for a New American Security and a signatory of "A New Way Forward," is candid enough to say, "We don't know." The Taliban might well put out a welcome mat for al Qaeda-style groups. The Haqqanis, who have carried out many of the suicide attacks against NATO forces and have worked closely with al Qaeda, are "the nub of the problem," Cronin says, because a Haqqani presence in eastern Afghanistan would offer a new platform for international jihadists. But Cronin notes that Pakistani security forces, which have long sponsored the Haqqanis, do not want to see an al Qaeda connection and have been trying to "rein them in." The Haqqanis may have to be included in any final settlement -- Pakistan will insist on it -- but NATO forces will continue pounding the frontier areas.

But "can the effort succeed?" and "how bad would failure be?" are not quite the same question. On the first, much evidence has piled up; and most, though not all, of it points to "No." Counterinsurgency strategy doesn't work with a corrupt and illegitimate government, and an insurgency that can take shelter beyond the Pakistani border. But experience to date tells us almost nothing about the second question. Paul Pillar, another veteran CIA officer and signatory of "A New Way Forward," argues that the Haqqani-al Qaeda link "is not immutable." That may be; but there's no more evidence on that subject than on the rationality, or irrationality, of the Taliban. The Council on Foreign Relations' Leslie Gelb has consistently argued that a troop reduction in Afghanistan, like the withdrawal from Vietnam, would provoke apocalyptic fears but prove to be an anti-climax. I find that notion appealing, though not necessarily persuasive.

But all costs are relative. And against the uncertain benefits of maintaining a very large military presence in Afghanistan over the next three to four years are the very large costs of staying in such large numbers. The $100 billion a year or so in resources may be the least of it. Whether or not Pape is right that foreign military presence itself is the cause of terrorism, it is surely a provocation in the eyes of millions of Muslims, some tiny fraction of whom will be moved to attack the West. And whether or not Sageman is right that al Qaeda-centric terrorism has given way to leaderless jihad, the focus on Afghanistan absorbs assets needed for criminal justice and surveillance efforts in all the other places where terrorism now germinates. The war is a terrible drain on Washington's attention, and on U.S. soft power and prestige. "It's hard to be taken seriously in Asia when we are still bogged down in Afghanistan," as Cronin says.

There are very few true wars of necessity. The Civil War was one; World War II was another. When Mullah Omar refused to give up Osama bin Laden, a war in Afghanistan became necessary. But then the war changed character, and the nature of the adversary changed as well. A war against Islamic terrorism, in some form, remains necessary. But the war in Afghanistan does not.

MASSOUD HOSSAINI/AFP/Getty Images

 

James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

JHON

6:18 PM ET

October 29, 2010

Magento Themes

Hi

This is a very important article from political point of view.As in this article the Afghan war has been targeted thats why this article is of great concern.I Like this article coz this article is very informative.
Thanks for sharing great article.
Magento Themes

 

MARTY MARTEL

10:55 AM ET

October 30, 2010

What will happen after US troop withdrawal & retalibanization?

Can the ‘spent force’ and ‘leaderless jihad’ of Al Qaeda make a come back with just another successful attack like the one on 9/11 on American homeland or European cities? Afterall that is what it took for Al Qaeda to become a menace to American security and a reason for America to wage its own ‘jihad‘ against the jihadists.

Let us remember how the first jihad came in to being.

As propagated by Pakistan and repeated by American pundits ad-inifinitum, it was the US walk-away from the Afghan theater after Soviet troop withdrawal that culminated in 9/11 attacks.

Let us examine this reasoning - just what does Pakistan mean when it says that ‘it was US walk-away that brought 9/11 attacks‘? Was it because US stopped sending stinger missiles? Or was it because US stopped pouring billions after Soviet troop withdrawal? With Pakistan and Afghanistan both ranking high on corruption index, would any amount of money that US pours that after withdrawing troops suffice?

So is Mr. Traub, Robert Pape and company proposing that deficit-ridden US keep pouring billion after billion to both Afghanistan and Pakistan after US troop withdrawal to stop them from restarting terror campaign against America? How many years does US have to pay this ‘blackmail’ money to Afghanistan and Pakistan to be safe at home?

 

RKERG

1:32 PM ET

October 30, 2010

Cold War Military versus cultish insurgency

If only Al Quaeda would line up some tanks and planes and ships and fight like it was 1962. Then it would all be over soon. But, AQ, like the North Vietnam Army and the American Revolutionary army of George Washington's day, have learned not to fight the way that their adversary would choose and has prepared for. As much as some war enthusiasts would like the wars to go on forever, the bulk of America has grown weary of the futility and expense of trying to pull Afghanistan and Iraq into the 21st century.

 

PADDYP

12:37 PM ET

October 31, 2010

Cold war military versus.......

Americans will not determine how the Afghan war ends; Afghans will. RKERG is correct. The whole sorry 'war on terror' could be terminated by simply getting out of Muslim lands. Resistance to occupation is patriotism and patriots are better motivated than occupiers - they will eventually prevail. Then they will get on with their lives in their own way and in their own tradition. Whether they want to join the 21st century or not is up to them. It's called Freedom.

 

THAT BLACK GUY

5:56 AM ET

November 1, 2010

PaddyP

"he fades back, he shoots, he scores" - excellent points sir. You're a scholar and a gentleman.

 

THAT BLACK GUY

5:56 AM ET

November 1, 2010

PaddyP

"he fades back, he shoots, he scores" - excellent points sir. You're a scholar and a gentleman.

 

SAIF UR REHMAN

3:47 PM ET

October 30, 2010

A realistic approach after a long time.......

"Moreover, the Taliban "would likely not invite Al Qaeda to re-establish a significant presence" in a re-Talibanized Afghanistan"

AlQaeda was never given a free hand earlier even, Taliban had taken a religious oath from osama not to carry out terrorist attacks, which he violated and played into the hands of enemies of Islam.

Today the US is becoming a increasingly disliked in Muslim world due to its policies. And whos interest it serves? neither US nor Muslim but enemies of both..... really

how to tackle this increasing dissatisfaction and hatred among the western muslim citizens, Muslims all over the world, and the People of occupied countries should be the biggest concern of US.

Today in Afghanistan, US is not fighting with Alqaeda, it is fighting with Afghan people, US is seen as occupation forces by Afghanis, Iraq is more volatile than Saddam era,

Yamen, Nigeria, Somalia, are drifting away in the hands of fundamentalists against to US.... where this will end?

Still few people talk of Invading further countries.........

 

KMC2K9

11:06 AM ET

October 31, 2010

The fact we have lost so much

The fact we have lost so much can we afford to come out of the war? My cousin is fighting with the British Army and when he came back he said it is really bad out there and he was fighting with US forces side by side even with supplies like toothbrushes and Norelco Blades
for the men were at an all time low its a big issue withier we stay or leave eithier way its going to be bad

 

PADDYP

8:09 AM ET

November 1, 2010

That Black Guy

Quite peculiar? Care to share with this Irish grandad?

 

THAT BLACK GUY

9:07 AM ET

November 1, 2010

sure

Just how you spelled "colonisation" is all. with an "s" instead of a "z" which really only lead me to believe that either you learned British English, or that you are quite possibly not from the US. Neither of which are bad qualities. was really just curious.

 

PADDYP

9:19 AM ET

November 1, 2010

That Black Guy

Yes, British English (or Hiberno-English as we might say in Ireland), but modified over the years. The 'S' spelling is still the norm here though the 'Z' is common. Thanks for your earlier favo(u)rable comment - I would hate my criticisms of American policy to be construed as anti-Americanism. You probably have no greater a proportion of idiots there than we have here.

 

THAT BLACK GUY

5:09 AM ET

November 2, 2010

dont mention it

It's just that after reading a lot of rants and little fact based rhetoric, it's nice to see evidence, at least in the pragmatic sense, that leads to a bit more parsimonious discussion and progressive discourse. However, this is just a forum, so to each their own right? haha. But i havent read anything you've said that lead me to believe you were being Anti-American. And so what if you were, you've got the right to your opinions. But to be Anti-American for the sake of being Anti-American is really just a waste of energy. Ireland eh? Oddly enough ill be in Dublin at the end of the month. Any suggestions as to what i "must" see, aside from the guiness factory. haha.

 

PADDYP

12:38 PM ET

November 2, 2010

Dublin

No suggestions, but enjoy. Beidh fáilte romhat.

 

DR.KISSINGER@YAHOO.COM

5:17 PM ET

November 1, 2010

afpak war cost reduction

Combining the two small Iraq/afghan wars into one big Iraq/Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan war would actually save us money. I think the tea party types would approve.
shalom
dr.k.

 

DEFANNIN

3:25 AM ET

November 2, 2010

Rational???

While I agree with the conclusion that the war was necessary, but that in 10 years it has changed, and is no longer necessary. I find two of the premises troubling.

1. The Taliban is not rational. I am amazed that every time we try a strategy and the enemy doesn't buy it, they are irrational. The fact is we may not understand their rationale. But they undoubtedly are acting rational as they see it. We are constantly basing policy on the fact that the other side is not rational, Korea and Iran, when in reality the only thing we should say is they did not react the way we thought they would or should or how we would have reacted in a similar situation.

2. That a foreign government is corrupt. The Idea that the government serves the people is a very recent western idea. Most leaders throughout history wanted to be in control for the benefits and profits it would bring them. Why do members of Congress enter as a pauper and come out a prince. If we are going to work with the leaders in Afghanistan or the government we have to realize that a certain amount of what we pay is just flat out bribes. Get Real.

 

BRIJD

11:25 AM ET

November 2, 2010

Pakistan's role

If the Taleban are left to reoccupy large parts of Afghanistan, there will again be a civil war between different factions of Taleban. The factions which are loyal to Pakistani agencies will receive a huge amount of financial, arms and intelligence aid from Pakistan, and they will wipe out the other factions. Afghanistan will become a surrogate of the Pakistani military. Sharia law will be imposed in order to create a sense of legitimacy to the brutal rulers.
But even more importantly, American retreat from Afghanistan will create a huge sense of euphoria among Islamists the world over. And Al Qaeda will become immortalized in tales by them.
America is now fighting an "old-world war" - such wars are endless and they are unreasonable. But the thing about "old-world wars" is that if you ever tire of fighting, you will suffer tremendously and may even lose your freedom. if you do not triumph emphatically, you will die a slow and agonizing death.
There are no easy choices.
To destroy the Al Qaeda, Talibans and other jihadi armies in the region, the right choice is to disarm Pakistan and impose a secular constitution on it.

 

BRIJD

8:53 PM ET

November 2, 2010

Pakistan's role

CIA can get tactical successes, but I do not recall it having achieved a strategic objective ever. CIA is meant for execution of plans for intelligence gathering or for gathering moles and killing "wanted" people. That is it. It is not good at strategic thought.
And like all organizations, most of the people in the CIA are idiots.
Pakistan needs to be disarmed for its own and the world's good future.
The Taleban are nothing but an advance warning of what is to happen in Pakistan and the whole Islamic world in the next few decades, unless the world acts to nip this evil in its Pakistani bud.
Al Qaeda will pale into insignificance once the nuclear armed state sponsor of terrorism entity called Pakistan becomes convinced that nobody will attack it out of fear. Then you will know the true meaning of terror after Islamist countries line up behind Pakistan to reestablish their dream theocracies by violent force.

 

KUMHO

12:02 PM ET

November 18, 2010

Kumho

I meant Marty Martelparça kontör

 

ALICE_HOWTOWN

12:22 AM ET

November 19, 2010

These are Counterproductive

Striking Pakistan is also likely to tatil irritate its ally China. On whom we depend for some kind of resolution to the North Korea problem. Which can retaliate economically. Without losing a fix it pro single soldier.

In the excellent thriller Clear and Present Danger. the Cuban intelligence abtronic x2 officer warns his drug lord boss to "stop thinking with your balls and I'd respectfully suggest American chest-thumpers do likewise.