The Russians Return

Russia's back in Afghanistan, this time in cooperation with the West -- but do objectives really align?

BY JAMES KIRCHICK | NOVEMBER 10, 2010

At the annual NATO summit in Lisbon later this month, Russia plans to make a surprising announcement: It will assist the Western military alliance's war effort in Afghanistan, the land from which it was forced to make a humiliating withdrawal two decades ago after failing to defeat a U.S.-backed insurgency that dealt a decisive blow to an already crumbling Soviet Union.

NATO is portraying the announced cooperation with its International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) as the fruit of a broader rapprochement between Russia and the West, which both Washington and its European allies are eager to cultivate. "The meeting in Lisbon is a real opportunity to turn a new page, to bury the ghosts of the past," Anders Fogh Rasmussen, NATO's secretary-general, said last week during a pre-summit visit to Moscow. (Rasmussen presented a similar request last year, which the Russians spurned.)

NATO could certainly use more help in Afghanistan (though it would be preferable if its own members, some of which have been hesitant to send more forces and have bound those already in the field under overly stringent rules of engagement, picked up the slack). But it should be clear-eyed about Moscow's motives. The initial appeal of Russia's assistance -- that the country has knowledge of Afghanistan thanks to its own, decade-long engagement -- is belied by its brutal record. Afghans do not have fond memories of their former invaders, and it's not hard to understand why. Possibly 1 million Afghan civilians died in the Soviet war, which was waged with typical Russian carelessness and a complete lack of regard for winning hearts and minds. Russia carpet-bombed huge swaths of territory, laid mines that still maim and kill Afghan civilians, and wiped out entire villages suspected of sheltering mujahideen militants. By contrast, ISAF, though it has been criticized for civilian casualties incurred via drone strikes, is at least cognizant of how such deaths negatively affect its mission and has invested billions of dollars in reconstruction projects. The United Nations estimates that civilian casualties in the latest war, which has lasted nearly as long as the Soviet one, number somewhere between 12,000 and 30,000.

Moreover, the actual Russian commitment is small. Russia will not be contributing troops, the most badly needed resource in a counterinsurgency effort where success depends on dispersing soldiers throughout remote areas. Initial reports peg the promised assistance at a few helicopters and military trainers. The newfound Russian support for the NATO mission in Afghanistan (supposedly predicated on opposition to Islamist militants gaining a foothold in its neighborhood and distress at rising heroin addiction fueled by Afghan opium) does not exactly square with the attempts it has made to undermine the war. When, shortly after 9/11, the United States asked Tajikistan whether it could use the former Soviet republic's territory as a staging ground for the initial attack into Afghanistan (with which Tajikistan shares a 700-mile-long border), the Tajiks resisted due to vigorous Russian arm-twisting. When the United States convinced Kyrgyzstan, another poor, landlocked, former Soviet Central Asian republic, to allow the erection of a transit center that has proved crucial in transporting soldiers and equipment to Afghanistan, Russia immediately complained and began pressuring its government to evict the base. Last year, Russia persuaded Kyrgyzstan's then president, Kurmanbek Bakiyev, to expel the Americans in exchange for a $2 billion loan package. Only when the United States offered to triple the rent it was paying to the Kyrgyz government did Bakiyev back down. This year, Bakiyev was violently ousted in an uprising that Moscow helped instigate, and Russia has been quietly pressuring the new Kyrgyz government to evict the Americans yet again.

NATALIA KOLESNIKOVA/AFP/Getty Images

 

James Kirchick is writer at large with Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty based in Prague and a contributing editor to the New Republic.

ENLISTENZ

3:10 AM ET

November 11, 2010

Oh, hell, no!

Nobody should be occupied by the Russian military and nobody's military needs to be trained by them , even more critically. Do you think that Bosnian Serbs wanted to admit to the American likes of me that the Russians stole everything that even was bolted down where they occupied? They feel a helpless loyaly to Orthodox Slav unity that won't let them decry the Russians, but they were very relieved when they went away. To invite them back into Afghnistan , where they did far worse, would be pure madness,

 

OTUS

7:06 AM ET

November 11, 2010

Hey, why do you think

you, yankees, were called in Yugoslavia Pindoses even by the Brits (of course, unofficially; officially one of the top British officers politely asked Russians "not to call Pindoses "Pindoses"" - everyone smiled)?

Mate, you are cheap.

As regards Afghanistan – no one could not do worse than the US in Vietnam (5 million dead, hundreds of thousands of children with genetic disorders), right? … Oh, wrong – you are probably just the third “best” after Nazi Germany and Japan...

Oh, I suppose I should add 100 - 200,000 Iraqis and gosh knows how many Afghanis... and the fact that the civil war in Afghanistan was sponsored and to a major degree plotted by CIA and the Pakistan’s secret services... and that Taliban is a dear US / Pakistan baby who suddenly turned to be infant terrible and started biting not only those who he was told to bite but also his daddy and mummy… so sad…

 

NICOLAS19

4:16 AM ET

November 11, 2010

one dictator for another

"Careless" Russian occupation contrasted to the "careful" US occupation. Bullshit. I'm sorry, I just fail to believe the statistics cited in this article. The US decade-long occupation resulting in 12-30.000 civilian casualties? That is 2x-5x the number of UN combatant casualties, counting with numbers from the same, edited UN source. Well, the Soviet Union did the same job in cheating with casualty statistics. It would be a welcome change to see some local statistics instead of US (UN, the same) ones. Ooops, I forgot: there's a military occupation there. There's no such thing as independent opinion.

Point is: it would mean no change for Afghanistan if one occupier welcomed another with open arms. Why the superpowers wouldn't let that poor region's people in peace for once?

 

DENYS_911

4:38 AM ET

November 11, 2010

Caspian oil to India, duh!!

Caspian oil to India, duh!! They are not leaving until they have the oil.

 

MUSUK

7:22 AM ET

November 11, 2010

rus

At Vietnam not the warmest memoirs on former aggressors, and it is easy to understand why. During war STAFFS have destroyed about 2 million Vietnamese citizens, and this war was conducted with carelessness typical of Americans and full ignoring of an indispensability to gain confidence and hearts of local population.
The USA spent carpet bombing on huge sites of territory, established mines which till now kill and will cripple peace VIETNAMESE residents, as well as exterminated the whole villages on suspicion in shelter of NORTHERNERS.

 

SMART_ANDREW

7:02 AM ET

November 11, 2010

JAMES KIRCHICK is loser

Russians have won afghanians 20 years ago. Pro-Russian government lasted 3 years, and the Yankees Karzai would not last a month without the corpses of americans

 

MUSUK

7:23 AM ET

November 11, 2010

rus

At Vietnam not the warmest memoirs on former aggressors, and it is easy to understand why. During war STAFFS have destroyed about 2 million Vietnamese citizens, and this war was conducted with carelessness typical of Americans and full ignoring of an indispensability to gain confidence and hearts of local population.
The USA spent carpet bombing on huge sites of territory, established mines which till now kill and will cripple peace VIETNAMESE residents, as well as exterminated the whole villages on suspicion in shelter of NORTHERNERS.

 

MOFFAKA

8:08 AM ET

November 22, 2010

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At Vietnam not the warmest memoirs on former aggressors, and it is easy to understand why. During war STAFFS have destroyed about 2 million Vietnamese citizens, and this war was conducted with carelessness typical of Americans and full ignoring of an indispensability to gain confidence and hearts of local population.
The USA spent carpet bombing on huge sites of territory, established mines which till now kill and will cripple peace VIETNAMESE residents, as well as exterminated the whole villages on suspicion in shelter of NORTHERNERS.
Great, basur see you later.

 

MUSUK

7:27 AM ET

November 11, 2010

rus

Has started to read, not looking addressed to the author and has soon caught itself on an idea, that article was unequivocally written by the cretin from the East Europe. Has looked addressed to - precisely. The Pole any stupid, or chezh

 

OTUS

7:36 AM ET

November 11, 2010

Lots of lies in a small article

To name just a few:

1. Russians did invest in the Afghanistan infrastructure very heavily - and started doing so well before they moved there the troops.

The investments included building factories, mining facilities, hospitals, schools, residential houses and were substantially higher than those made so far by the US. The author, if he has a smallest understanding of the issue he is writing about, could not be unaware of this. So, he lies intentionally.

2. The main problem of the Soviet war in Afghanistan was the massive foreign help, impossibility to root out training camps and supply bases in Pakistan and even direct involvement of some Pakistani troops. Bzhezinsky now openly admits that the US started supplying arms to the Afghan opposition well before the Soviet Army moved in - and this was made in order to "make a Vietnam for the USSR". Without such US / British / Pakistani / Chinese etc. "help" the civil war may have been won by the central government without need of the Soviet troops - and certainly with some their help. It, of course, would never be so bloody.

As already pointed out, the Afghan government was doing quite well – it fought for another 3 years, proclaimed (and pursued) the “national conciliation” policy inviting to share the power with a non-radical opposition and could win if not 2 things:
1) the US did not keep its word to stop supplying radical oppositions with arms and equipment;
2) Eltsin betrayed Kabul and stopped any supplies to it. Nadzhibulla kept until the last drops of fuel – then died. He was a brave man and knowing that Talibs would kill him he did not spare the fuel for his escape. Rest and peace and sorry for our bast..d Eltsin…

3. The Soviets did NOT do "carpet bombings" - and could not even do so technically due to the lack of planes suitable for this.

Pease, leave carpet bombings exclusively to the US (during WWII and in Vietnam): the US are allowed to drop "democratic" bombs on the non-combatants, flatten the cities, and murder hundreds of thousands of women and children. No one else can do this without being criticized by the US.

I could add another 10 or 12 points of utter lying... if I had more time.

 

BALTHAZAR

11:51 PM ET

November 11, 2010

Author simply got paid, how many chehks share blood in A?

Think if Russians won the war in Afganistan. Will it became part of Tajikistan? And end it up as simple and quite dictatorship without Talibs and all that ex-US trained terrorist?

 

JOHN SMITHERS

9:48 AM ET

November 11, 2010

Shame on you author.

This is how the western media works. Lies Lies Lies. I don't care who wrote it I care who published it. Very disappointing. This nonsense shouldn't be published end of story.

 

PADDYP

11:13 AM ET

November 11, 2010

The author writes for Radio

The author writes for Radio Free Europe/ Radio Liberty, the cold war anti-Russian entity.

Anyone remember the old saying, "What do you expect from a pig but a grunt?"

 

ANDOR_1

11:21 AM ET

November 11, 2010

a humiliating withdrawal

It was well organized and orderly withdrawal. Nobody was hanging from the helicopter chassis as it was during American escape in Saigon )))

ENLISTENZ, you lie. You have not a shred of evidence and your baseless accusations are what they are - baseless...

OTUS - Great post! Thanks!

 

KASEMAN

12:42 PM ET

November 11, 2010

ruski motives

1. Revenge for the smashing of the former unbeatable Red Army. Afghans, not Americas destroyed the RA and thus the aura of invincibility of the Soviet regime therby precipitated its collapse. Thus Afghans liberated Christian Eastern Europe, assisted by Gorby, not Reagan, who had the foresight to realize the RA was totally incapable of re-imposing Soviet rule. NATO and Reagan's arms build up had nothing to do with the collapase of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact. The gringo centric approach has led to the total misread of Afghan fighting abilties and shows the gross incompetence of the American war machine. Which only knows how to shoot and carpet bomb. As proved by its sinking into a deepening morass despite 9 years behaving like the waffen SS.

2. Spy on NATO's military capacities and beahvior. And laugh at them.

3. take back the drug trade that senior Red Army officers got into in 1980. The trade ex Tajikstan has been controlled by Interior Ministry troops since 1980.

3. plunder NATO equipment. Helped by the US paid contractors already in the racket

 

BADGES PERSONNALISéS

2:30 PM ET

November 11, 2010

Russia doesn't remember their mistakes...

It seems that Russia does not remeber the mistakes that she already did there in the past....

 

RSHEIKH

4:56 PM ET

November 11, 2010

What mistakes do you have in

What mistakes do you have in mind? Offering some help to the West?

 

NEVERWINTER

10:29 PM ET

November 11, 2010

American lies makes me sick.

American lies makes me sick

 

NEVERWINTER

12:32 AM ET

November 12, 2010

What smoking FP ?

What smoking FP ?

 

ENLISTENZ

7:17 AM ET

November 13, 2010

I lie?

Not intentionally. Maybe the locals who wanted to like the Russians really meant somebody else when they pointed out tthings like the abandoned factory that soldiers from somewhere had trucked all the equipment away from.

Call everyone liars. It won't change the reputation of the Russian military. People remember.

 

CANKATX2

5:36 PM ET

November 14, 2010

American lies makes me sick

I don't care who wrote it I care who tatil published it. Very disappointing. This nonsense shouldn't be published klip izle end of story.