Rethinking Objectives in Afghanistan

The United States invaded Afghanistan to defeat al Qaeda. It should stay that way.

BY PHILIP MUDD | NOVEMBER 17, 2010

The sense of unknown was pervasive during the CIA's nightly al Qaeda threat briefings in the first years after 9/11. Was a second catastrophe in progress? Were its perpetrators deployed? Might they use chemical, biological, or nuclear material? Our knowledge of al Qaeda grew quickly in 2002 and afterward, but we knew that our window into the group was nowhere near good enough to assure policymakers, legislators, and the American people that we in the agency, where I served from as deputy director of the Counterterrorist Center from 2003 to 2005, could prevent another strike.

The United States entered Afghanistan to resolve this threat, to hunt those who had orchestrated the 9/11 murders, and to disrupt, then dismantle, the network that would organize future plots. The Bonn diplomatic process that resulted in the creation of Hamid Karzai's government in Kabul supported this goal of uprooting and eviscerating al Qaeda. We would help Afghanistan choose legitimate, competent leaders who would not allow terrorist safe havens on Afghan soil. But there was not going to be any nation-building effort, and certainly not on the scale of the Marshall Plan in postwar Europe. U.S. troops weren't fighting in the hills of Tora Bora as a result of civil unrest and Taliban atrocities: After all, we chose not to intervene in Afghanistan before the attacks, despite rampant human rights abuses and seemingly interminable chaos. We simply wanted to stop attacks at home.

Now, nine years later, the link between terrorism and the war is obscure. Americans now wonder why their sons are still fighting and dying for the Karzai government, with its periodic criticism of coalition operations and reputation for corruption, including during elections this year. Yet we are still there, perhaps because we have incurred such a cost by intervening in Afghanistan that we cannot bear to consider disinvesting. Perhaps because our national reputation is at stake: Cut out now and we will be perceived as shortsighted (remember the Somalia and Lebanon withdrawals during the 1990s), not a characteristic of great powers. This is not to say we should be cautious about setting withdrawal timetables; instead, our question might be how we maintain a counterterrorism capability rather than whether we have the capability to oversee a return to some sort of Afghan normalcy.

We shouldn't delink these problems, though, for brutal but inescapable national security reasons: If our initial intervention stemmed from the attacks, should not follow-on decisions, such as whether to speak to the Taliban about reconciliation, relate directly to the al Qaeda fight? If we want to destroy al Qaeda, does our current strategy of isolating the Taliban -- which has a far greater penetration of Afghan society and provincial life that we or the Kabul government ever will -- make sense? It does if we want to build a civil society; it doesn't if we want local Taliban leaders to limit an al Qaeda presence because it might interfere with their goal of creating an Afghan emirate.

RORY MULHOLLAND/AFP/Getty Images

 

Philip Mudd is a senior global advisor at Oxford Analytica. He served as deputy director of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center from 2002 to 2005 and then the first-ever deputy director of the FBI's National Security Branch. Mudd resigned from government service in early 2010 from his position as the bureau's senior intelligence advisor.

DRACARYS

4:35 AM ET

November 18, 2010

Europe

Some great points, that need to be restated again and again. Having 150000 NATO soldiers and tens of thousands private contractors in Afghanistan is disproportionate and actually harmful for US national security. All the more so for Europe. The Madrid bombings were plotted in Morocco, the London bombings inside of Britain. No links with Afghanistan whatsoever. Europe needs to rethink carefully its antiterrorism policy, because the enemy is not thousands of miles away in the Hindu Kush. It´s right on our borders and cities. Did the disruption of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan prevent the attacks? No. Continuing the war will prevent new strikes? I dont see how. End this pointless war as soon as possible.

 

GLOBALVIC

4:50 PM ET

November 25, 2010

CT/COIN

Shaping the future of Afghanistan is clearly less than 100% predictable! Who is doing the shaping? Obviously, not just the US! Mr. Mudd is arguing for more limited and--he thinks--realistic objectives in the AFPAK campaign but make no mistake about it, Mr. Mudd is for the recession of the AFPAK campaign!
A 'Hutchinsonian'--long-term geopolitical framework--and a more nuanced but field-based (rather than top-down) approach (re: the ambitions and capabilities of ethnic groups) is more applicable before we draw our final conclusions! Let me give an example, US involvement in WWI helped break among other things .. the Ottoman empire! President Wilson did not have it all his own way and the ensuing League of Nations--without America--handed the former Ottoman provinces, under its own mandate, to the European nations! This resulted in a number of Arab states gaining their independence between the wars! US involvement in WWII and the ensuing UN agreement with its anti-imperial clauses--at the insistence of the US!--gradually broke up all the European empires and of course ushered the independence of all the ME & NA countries (OK .. with the help of nationalism .. I'm broad-sweeping guys!). Another example is the Cold War and NATO and the policy of Soviet containment which linked with Soviet misgovernment and oppression brought about the SU's collapse and the emergence of "dormant" (e.g. Latvia) and new states. Russian power and instability, the Balkan wars and the Afghan war have reshaped NATO. The US is still in the driver's seat though the Afghan war in 2001 and Iraq invasion in 2003 and the surge in 2010 have merely exposed the strengths but also the weaknesses and limitations of US power projection and leadership.
The US must not be blind-sided by its commitment to democracy! A lot of Americans were disenfranchised until quite recently! Democracy is a system of government with strengths and weaknesses! There are many varieties! It is not always beneficial! The US and the EU plus the media welcomed Erdogan and the AKP. I wonder how it will all end when Turkey’s SP & FP becomes more aligned to its new identity and ambitions! Israel is clearly in its cross-hairs so it has said!
So what are the shapers (you are probably more used to 'drivers') of the emerging landscape?
The US economy
Bush was blind-sided (see Decision Points) by the economic whirlwind because America has gotten too used to mishandling and to some extent malhandling its economy as well as the global economy. Just remember how long ago has the US BP been in surplus? Increasing global liquidity has resulted in huge US debts to the rest of the world! The dollar became the lynchpin of the global financial system--it used to be as good as gold--because the US was truly a healthy country, economically, militarily, culturally, etc ... a truly great nation that dwarfed most other nations. A lot depends on whether the US will win over the current recession and recover its health!
US intel, military and security services

I also agree with others who have emphasized the value of the US military ... but US president Obama and the Congress have attacked the CIA and its practices and common sense, according to the majority of the American public and US servicemen! Obama’s view is unsustainable! Inaction or inadequate action in the face of evil is itself evil: The US public will hold Obama responsible and guilty. Not to act is to act because you are allowing evil to prevail. I wonder how the US will respond when the next 9/11—may it never happen--hits America (?). The recent debates on torture have brought to the limelight the fact that there are no scientific studies proving the president's case! Then there is the attempt to emasculate the US military by overturning DADT. Then there was Bradley and wikileaks and general Mullen's divergence from the other Joint Chiefs DADT position. I think that Mullen did not take into account the delegit impact of his statement on Near Eastern friendly as well as hostile militaries and propagandists. Should Mullen not have considered the fact that over 100,000 non-radicalized Americans have switched to alternative oversight because of ECUSA's official position on practicing gays!! What will religious people do in the ME? AFPAK and the Mideast are religious and general Mullen has shown weak judgment. Of course US cultural shifts cannot be delinked from the US military but should the US military have to cope with culture war tensions with foreign militaries? I doubt it general Mullen!
There's no question that a new multi-polar world is emerging but the following should be considered before going CT:
1. If the AFPAK is winded down which regional or global powers will wind up?
2. Will Western-type democracy work in an environment of tribal rivalries and ethnolinguistic diversity? Will a confederal system work e.g. Iraq? Afghanistan? A PC position may be untenable and I think that Mr. Madd does bring in fresh air by stirring up the debate. What will work?
3. Does the US want a security and economic footprint in Afghanistan and how can it be secured in the face of Iranian, Pakistani, and Turkish rivalry? Or the three of them together against the US? Do we want another coup d’ etat of the type perpetrated by the Americans—unwittingly (who was the guy in State when it was discussed?)—on behalf of Shiite Iran?
4. Given that the US needs HUMINT in AFPAK and Iraq how should it nurture its assets? Will it allow another Bradley or wikileak and the imperiling of its assets? Did Bradley commit his treason because of considerations related to his «orientation»? The bottom-line is no loyalty no trust plus leaks and peril make for no assets! Not sane ones!!
5. Will the interests of the US and its allies be better served through an unworkable Western-type democracy or President Karzai’s government?
6. Is there room in our thinking for failed states and nations and how do we deal with them?
7. Which worldviews, geopolitical and resource governance considerations apply to AFPAK in the 21st century?
8. Will Turkey emerge as the leader or pivot of Turkic or regional or Islamic countries and what shall be its stance towards the US, the West and Israel be?

The victor gets the spoils! General Petreaus says the war can be won! You remember Iraq before the surge! I assume Petreaus knows when he flips the COIN whether it will be heads or tails! It’s as simple as that: the US shall either head or tail. You know the saying: when the going gets tough ... well if you are not tough then pray to become one!

 

XTIANGODLOKI

9:46 AM ET

November 18, 2010

Keeping the war going was the objective

If you assign an actual achievable goal to this war, then it may actually end someday. When that happens the defense industry would need to create another excuse to keep themselves in existence and justify all that spending (they are working on China and Iran now, but it's hard to actually these countries).

 

FREETRADER

9:21 AM ET

November 21, 2010

Another brilliant post...

Xtiangodloki. Yes, I'm sure that it is the "defense industry" that is keeping the war going. Thanks for the insight.

Actually, if the US was as focused on containing China as your paranoid rants would us believe, the US probably wouldn't be in Afghanistan at all. Kind of a contradiction of your brilliant theory though, I'm afraid...

 

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JAYDEE001

11:11 AM ET

November 18, 2010

Great article, Mr Mudd!

It is so refreshing to have someone say it so well. Yes --- peace with the Taliban would allow us to focus on dealing with al Qaeda, the real enemy. if Afghanistan needs to have a civil war to determine what its future political, religious and social structure may be, that is hardly our concern, as long as all parties understand there will be a price to be paid for harboring or giving aid to international terrorists. We can punish those who aid al Qaeda without committing billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of troops; for all that we have done, have we actually eliminated or even seriously harmed al Qaeda? No, they have metastasized into many-celled force with the ability to project violence in many different places. Their leadership may be restricted in its movement, but it is no less effective at employing diverse and widely dispersed forces on a global scale. They can be where we are not ready for them, especially as long as we prosecute large scale military actions far from our own shores. We require surgical precision, not massive military shows that only benefit the MIC.

The Karzai government may indeed be our creation, but it has become an ugly stepchild, less and less worth defending. We have a habit of backing losers (Iran, Vietnam, Panama, etc), and what has that gotten us? Al Qaeda's leadership is in Pakisatn anyway, and has been there since 2002. If the Pakistani government won't give them up, and does not mind Taliban control of Afghanistan, then why do we continue to treat with them? They may consider us unreliable allies; we could certainly say the same about them. They shelter our enemies and encourage the very insurgents who cross into Afghanistan to kill our soldiers and those of our allies.

Let's back away from further mission creep, and get back to the important task of actually defending our homeland. We can deal with al Qaeda without investing further money and lives in the tragic mess that Afghanistan is, and will continue to be with or without our involvement. The notion that we might build a government there that promotes democracy and respect for human rights is ridiculous.

 

KASEMAN

12:05 PM ET

November 18, 2010

muddy's misinformation

At peak before 9/11, Al Quaeda did not number more than 800. Yes 800! The American elite turned it's coup de main into a coup d'etat, so achieving for AQ the most outstanding success; witness the expense and damage the US has done to itself in all sectors. Economic costs alone to date exceed $10 trillion and of course the diplomatic cost is obvious. So no need for another 9/11. Why should there be? A few hundred terrorists aren't that mad to do a favor of a repeat when the US is shooting itself ad nauseaum.

AQ left/was pushed out of Afghanistan by end of 2001. US arrogance and stupidity got itself suckered into taking sides in the Pushtoon civil war. The Pushtoon are a nation straddling Afghhanistan where they number 15 million, and Pakistan, where they number 30+ million. The land they occupy is Pushtoonistan and the latter do not see themselvest as Pakistanis.

Given the appalling 9 year record of the 150,000 US military and its 100,000 mercenaries the Pentagon has shown that it is the worst military in history. The brass have shown they are the stupidest white men in uniform in history who have given their soldiers and especially mercenaries licence to behave like the Nazi waffen SS = waffen uSSa. Even now soldiers going to A'stan are told they are there to avenge 9/11, even though no Afghan had ever hurt an American. In fact it was the Afghans who at huge cost defeated the Soviet military and thereby liberated the Christians of Eastern Europe. And the West's reward? Not a peep. Reagan destroyed the USSR. Reality br damned

The solution re Taliban is what the Moghuls and the the British did: pay them of. Each US soldier cost at leat $1 million/y and the mercenaries and the civilians even more = at least $200 billion/y in personnel costs alone. Give each clan a stipend per capita payable for good behavior each year (guarantee intra clan fighting , as with the Scottish clans!) and ditto to the Tajiks, Hazara and Uzbeks. $ 10 billion/y over 10 years should do it. Of course the US military-industrial security parasites will fight this tooth and nail, so it will never happen. Which should please the Chinese, watching the US bleed away on the mountains of the Hindu Kush. Paid with borrowed money;. no prizes who will be the lender.,

 

GUNNEROIF2003

12:43 PM ET

November 18, 2010

No Surpries

I had made this post under a different article but most of it still applies, and it provide some background on both wars, insert 'Afghanistan' in the appropriate places......

"Iraq is a Tribal culture that goes back around 6,000 years; it’s all they know and they will go back to that way of life once we’re able to extract ourselves from this mess because one is more comfortable with what they know and it’s worked for over 6,000 years. There were no reasons to invade Iraq; President Bush was being manipulated by his staff, CIA, NSA, and possibly others. He was not smart enough to know that he wasn’t in charge of this country, his staff was. I saw the daily reports on WMD during all of 2003 while I was there and nothing of significance or of use to any terrorist group was found.

To compound things, after the Gulf war in the 90’s our government (Executive Branch, NSA, CIA, etc.) basically reneged on our promises to the HUMINT agents we had in place throughout Iraq. We basically abandoned them and left them to try and survive the wrath of Saddam on their own.

While we were spinning up for the war in 2002/2003, we weren’t chasing Al Qaeda; we were chasing ghosts from Presidents pass. Because we screw over every HUMINT asset in Iraq and none remained, it was very easy for the facts that were presented to the American People which got us in this mess to be skewed.

We had virtually no HUMINT assets on the ground when this war started (2003); when we abandoned them in the 90’s, word got out quickly throughout the middle east that the United States could not be trusted so it was very difficult to recruit spies to help us in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now, through our leadership we’ve created new training areas for terrorists (Iraq), and have pissed off every Arab in the Middle East and have put Iran on alert because we have them surrounded. On top of this we have made the entire world a more dangerous place for Americans.

We won’t win in Afghanistan because after we leave, like Iraq, they will go back to what they know and with what they are comfortable; a Tribal culture.

And by the way the argument to invade Iraq, that Saddam was a vicious ruler to his own people doesn’t fly because history shows there are a lot of countries even today that have notorious Dictators and our Government picks and chooses who their want to help and who are left to their own demise.

I and four siblings all served in Iraq and three of us were medically evacuated out so we are not arm chair quarterbacking our opinions; we lived through it.

And finally this begs the question which I sure would love to get a decent answer to; why are we not focusing on the ones who hurt us the most? Al Qaeda, the other extremist terrorist groups, and the governments that quietly fund their activities. Democracy is not the answer to every country and culture, if our leadership believes I’m wrong then they are very arrogant and need some history lessons."

And a comment to "DR. KUCHBHI";

The only one who has done a disservice to our men and women who have given their all is our own government (wasteful usage) and the American people (most could care less which is demonstrated through their actions..

Our Military is a National Treasure and should be treated as such because they allow us to live the way we want and do. Our government needs to understand this concept and stop wasting these lives on futile gains. And Americans need to understand that this is a National Treasure and hold our Leadership accountable for the misuse.

I have 29 years in the military service of this country and one of the most interesting things I see almost daily are the number of business that say they support our troops. I intentionally go in and ask for a military discount which is denied 9 out of 10 times.

I then pose the question how are you as a business actually supporting the troops especially those 100% disabled like myself, my brother, and my son.

None of these businesses can explain how they are supporting the war efforts or the people actually engaged in battle; it’s the same with most Americans. Actions speak louder than words……

 

FREETRADER

9:29 AM ET

November 21, 2010

@Gunner...

First of all, thank you for your service, and, it appears, your great sacrifice in defense of our country, and also, in defense of the values of the civilized worls.

Secondly, I agree with you that the US military is a treasure that needs to be carefully nurtured and maintained.

Thirdly, all the businesses who say they support the military actually DO support the military, as all Americans do, through the taxes they pay. Whether or not a business wants to give a discount to service personnel is purely voluntary (although, of course, I think it would be a good idea).

Finally, you have touched upon an issue (disabled veterans benefits) that is very important and I hope that you keep fighting for the benefits needed to support disabled heroes such as you. I do think there are a growing number of people in Washington, such as Senator James Webb, for whom this is a very important issue.

 

FREETRADER

9:31 AM ET

November 21, 2010

Sorry...

for the typos above.

 

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MILANOCHIL

8:13 PM ET

November 18, 2010

Definitions of victory

We were chasing ghosts from Presidents pass. Because we screw over every HUMINT asset in Iraq and none remained, it was very easy for the facts that were presented to the American People dis beyazlatma which got us in this mess to be skewed.

 

MARTY MARTEL

8:40 PM ET

November 18, 2010

A war without end

The Afghan war became a war without end the day Bush administration allowed Musharraf to relocate Taliban cadres from Kunduz in November, 2001 where they were trapped against advancing Northern Alliance forces. Musharraf relocated Haqqani’s HQN group to North Waziristan and Mullah Omar’s QST group to Quetta. Haqqani and Mullah Omar from their Pakistani hideouts have been controlling and conducting Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan ever since, killing US/NATO troops in the process while US pours billions in aid to Pakistan.

Obama’s mistake was to pick Bush team of Gates, Mullen and Petraeus who have continued Bush policy of mollycoddling Pakistan.

US military deliberately ignored Taliban’s Pakistan connections in fueling and sustaining Afghan insurgency as reported by Matt Waldman in ‘The sun in the sky‘ on 6/13/2010, corroborated by WikiLeaks leaks on 7/25/2010 and then further corroborated by Chris Alexander, Canadian ambassador to Afghanistan from 2003 to 2005 and Deputy Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General for Afghanistan from 2005 until 2009 in his article on 7/30/2010 titled ‘The huge scale of Pakistan‘s complicity‘.

For some diabolical reason, Gates, Mullen, Petraeus & Company has split the Taliban into the Afghan and Pakistani parts even though those two are two peas of the same pod. The US military is going after the Pakistani Taliban, while it encourages the Pakistani intelligence to continue to shelter the entire top Afghan Taliban leadership in Baluchistan province. Mullah Muhammad Omar and other members of the Taliban's inner shura (council) have been ensconced for years in the Quetta area.

As General McChrystal reported in his assessment of August, 2009 to the President: ‘The Quetta Shura Taliban (QST) based in Quetta, the provincial capital of Baluchistan, is the No. 1 threat to US/NATO mission in Afghanistan. At the operational level, the Quetta Shura conducts a formal campaign review each winter, after which Mullah Mohammed Omar (Afghan Taliban Chief) announces his guidance and intent for the coming year‘.

However US drones have targeted militants in Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), but not the Afghan Taliban leadership operating with impunity from Baluchistan. US ground-commando raids also have spared the Afghan Taliban's command-and-control network in Baluchistan.

Thus US military gave a free hand to Mullah Omar’s Taliban to mount successful insurgency from Quetta against US/NATO forces by not conducting drone attacks on QST in Baluchistan.

 

GUNNEROIF2003

2:35 AM ET

November 19, 2010

The Question Still Remains

Why did we invade Iraq in 2003 when we should have been focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan? We have wasted countless lives on both sides in an area that didn't really threaten USA security. I took an oath like hundreds of thousands of others to protect our rights, our country, our way of life.

I honestly thought we would go after al Qaeda after 9/11 instead of wasting billions of dollars, lives, and time engaging in a war that we didn’t need to fight because it had nothing to do with terrorists, 9/11, or the safety of our country.

Do the research; I kept a copy of the May2003 issue of Time magazine with President Bush in a flight suit on the cover in San Francisco bay on one of our aircraft carriers saying the war was over. In that month as a Senior Leader I was ORDERED to have my teams start turning in crew served ammo, grenades, AT4’s, etc. while we were still conduct combat operations.

Guess what, almost 8 years later we are still conducting combat operations in Iraq. I’ve seen privates busted over being late to duty, loose rank and pay a fine. I just don’t get it, I’ve lost soldiers, my friends in this stupid war that has done nothing but endangered more American lives and there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY with the Senior Officers, the past President, his staff and our politicians.

I’ve seen OFFICERS given BRONZE STARS in 2003 and they never left Kuwait; no combat, nice quarters, good food, air conditioning, while the TIP of the SPEAR continued to fight, living day by day in conditions that most Americans can’t even imagine. And this happened while my friends were being zipped up in body bags.

My god how many people in this country live in a bubble? If you had a son or daughter envolved in Iraq you should be demanding justice. Are we not trying to protect Americans, our way of life, our country?

Who do think has paid for this war that we still are fighting in Iraq? YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

Get the hell out of Iraq, call it a loss and screwup by our leadership, and focus on what is really threatening our country. And again, I say those who ordered us to invade Iraq should be brought up on criminal charges. They should be held accountable for the dead, injured and the families wreck by a senseless war.

If you’ve seen my other posts then you know I and my 4 siblings fought this war and 3 are 100% disabled. As Americans you can write your Senators, State Representatives, and the President to try and get answers and let them know what you want them to do.

Our next election is less than 2 year from now and by voting we can continue to send a message and that message should be that WE THE PEOPLE RUN THIS COUNTRY and if our elected officials don’t represent the people then they need to be replaced.

Americans are empowered to run this country via elections and you have to be engaged in the issues to make an intelligent choice as well as send a message.

 

RANIAGUSTIN

3:22 AM ET

November 19, 2010

Aa Qaeda is not just in Afghanistan

Poor Afghans. Their motherland is turned out into a battlefield without the assurance that once the war (invasion) is won, Al Qaeda will not exist any longer.

UK is also a lair of Al Qaeda. Elites of Al Qaeda are bred and groomed in London prior to their training in Pakistan. Why not start the war (invasion) in UK?

 

BEELZEBUB

5:56 PM ET

November 19, 2010

al Qaida, the new bogeyman

People seem to forget that the ISI was the architect behind the Taliban and Al Qaida joining hands in their holy war against the Northern Alliance. The Taliban are no longer taking orders from the ISI nor are they embedded with elements of Al Qaida; the past nine years have shown the Taliban that the ISI cannot be trusted and foreign fighters have their own agendas and are just using Afghanistan as a sprinboard to further their own causes. The vast majority of fighters in Afghanistan are not taking orders from the Taliban or the ISI they are fighting because they are getting the shaft from all ends and they are fed up with all the corruption from all sides. The Pashtuns are the rightful heirs of Afghanistan and they will eventually take back Afghanistan and put their man in Kabul and rid the country of corrupt warlords supported by the US.

 

THUGSCHEN

8:26 AM ET

November 20, 2010

Leaving With Tail Between Legs

Let's all understand one thing: the U.S. and its NATO allies are looking for an endgame that saves face. They can't win this war, a fact that should have been obvious from the beginning, and of which some of us right at the start warned would be the case. The British and the Russians couldn't tame the Afghans, and neither can the current crop of would-be conquerors.

The way out is to hand the war over to the impossibly inept Afghan army. The hope is that the Afghans will be able to hold off the Taleban long enough to make it seem that NATO handed over a secure Afghanistan to the Afghans. Then when the Afghan army collapses, the alliance leaders will blame Karzai and his corrupt government for mishandling the mess. The current demonization of Karzai is clearly laying a path for this part of the exit strategy.

For its part, the Taleban is merely waiting for the day. It is consolidating its hold on its vast areas of control and is chomping at the bit to swoop down and get its hands on all of the hardware that will be left behind. Talk of a deal with the Taleban is just that -- talk. There is no way that the alliance will do a deal with the Taleban. Everyone should know what the Taleban already knows: that it has the upper hand and it needs only to wait until NATO leaves.

 

THEIDESOFMARCH

9:00 PM ET

November 20, 2010

Enlightenment Arrives- But Slowly

The Mudd effort has encouraged many excellent comments - even to invitations like buying puma slippers - for almost free.
It's nice to commence a 'treatise' with an opening sentence - like the one above, especially when it suggests that the puma is female - that of course catches immediate attention.

Well ! Please read on.

There's much in those comments that tends to indicate how perilously out of date our Foreign Policy - and the trillions upon trillions it costs us - has become. Note.... XTIANGODLOKI's succinct paragraph of Nov 18th, 9:45 AM

Our American approach to Today's World at large needs realistic analysis. The resultant will, dollar-wise, be a far better straightening out of the domestic chaos into which we've far too long blindly allowed ourselves to sink !

Let's start with the Twin Towers.
Our erstwhile ally and friend Osama bin Laden - who we'd helped scalp the god-less Russian invader out from god-oriented Afghanistan - has sworn that he was not the one responsible ! Soon enough out of the enormous rubble emerges a passport of the Saudi Mohammad Atta 'proving' he was the leader. The naive American people are appalled and terribly angry.

George W Bush can only accomplish what he has been selected to ensure - internationally and nationally - IF...... he can somehow assume the lofty position of a " War-President ". He loses no time in proclaiming that America has now been forced to embark on revenge by launching a war - "A War on Terror ". He gets away with a 'cow-boy' notion that "War on an IDEA" is best conducted with immediate military force !
Was there then alive an 'impoverished' international military-industrial complex that would get a 'little richer' by adherence to a concept of such a well-deserved WAR - a war that would never ever end ? Can someone deny or support this query ?

While the rest of the nation is firmly prohibited air travel, air-crafts-full of SAUDIs are officially allowed to leave the USA - for Saudi Arabia.
Safety of these 'innocents' (and of course specially ensuring the oil-magnates' continuous health?) is verily such a human laudable factor influencing this transportation ! So be it.

The Northern Alliance (of Afghanistan) is chosen and supported by us to attack Saudi Arabia ! Oops I mean puny Afghanistan because the ruling Afghan Taliban government has failed to deliver the Yemeni/Saudi culprit Osama bin Laden unto us. When the triumphant Northern Alliance's assault on Tora Bora - where bin Laden's entire support group is hiding - is on the verge of being launched, the attack is abruptly called off - as the decision to NOW invade Iraq has been taken. Oops ! Osama and company escape un-scathed to the federally administered tribal areas of neighbouring Pakistan.
"Decision Points" affirms that years later George Bush can barely sleep when-ever the 'absurd' thought arises - in his mind - that there WERE no WMDs in Iraq at the time.
Oops ! How on earth can this be as HIS decision to invade Iraq had been made over the "slump dunk certainty " that they WERE - right there. How could Ambassador Jo (and agent Valerie) discover that the cursed Saddam had not been in a tight deal with Niger for succulent ' yellow-cakes ' ! I mean even Tony (and George and Colin) had already affirmed all that - over breakfast meetings and upon world stages !
The scenario above can well be denied but will "pendulum" between right and wrong for long.
Enough is contained in the Comments referred to . Hence repetition will merely be repetitive.
However a point of view to soothe the agony of what we're having to go through is worth a look Heroism and Valour aside
So.......To get back to the Taliban and to the Al-Qaeda.
The absurdity......that the thousands upon thousands of " tiny rural jirga-based democracies" - headed by tyrannically independent tribal chiefs whose word is "god's word on earth " - can be subdued to lead to the Afghan-Pakistan Taliban being defeated militarily in "god's own terrain'" terrain that itself vociferously denies success by organized warfare.......has been staring the world in the face for thousands of years.
No matter how hard and how "godly-ly " they try, the Afghan/Pakistan Pashtun Taliban can never impose their version of an Islamic sharia on any more than a small region - and that too not for too long. There-fore forget about military victory and get on to negotiating with the Taliban, not to lay down their arms which will be an impossibility there, but to see the benefits that can be afforded to their desperately poor villages by money and by technical assistance just as the British and Pakistan have been doing - fairly successfully too - and since long.
The ' modernization ' of that region will take generations of tactful handling assistance and education. Possibly some bright young sons of some of the not so die-hard tribal-chiefs being gotten over to be educated in the USA will pay dividends too. By the way - to continue to refer to these powerful chiefs pejoratively as "warlords" will hardly be wise for the future. They are the very ones we will have to negotiate with
Any military effort - where-by even to hope to try and stabilize the very nasty situation prevailing there within the confines of President Obama's remaining two years and maybe just another 4 for him if it so be - is un-realistic.
Now our effort should - diplomatically - commence to be converted to a realistically perceived " strategic success " whereby all parties to this needless blood-shedding there should emerge - as not victorious - but as NOT DEFEATED..
For this situation to emerge the - by now well-recognized chest-thumping - "hawks" will have to be firmly restrained.
Reinforcing "failure" - as evidenced by 9 years of armed conflict that's actually been steadily escalating - to our disadvantage - is not anything to be viewed as a matter of shallow national pride.

As for how to tackle Al Qaeda some suggestions will be made soon enough as now it's getting to be dinner time here.
Alors ! A la prochaine .............

 

SAIF UR REHMAN

2:23 PM ET

November 30, 2010

differentiate between Taliban and Alqaeda

The biggest flaw in US strategy in Afghanistan is that It deals Alqaeda and Taliban with same manner.
Taliban have roots in local pushtuns which can not be uprooted.
Taliban dont have international terrorism agenda, they are fighting to liberate their land from US occupation.
Taliban never attacked US or any country or not involved in 9/11
Talibans belong to majority of Afghan ethnic group, which have the right to rule in afghanistan.