The FP Survey: Terrorism

What is the state of global terrorism today, nearly a decade after the Sept. 11 attacks? Foreign Policy asked the top terrorism experts in the field. Here's what they told us:

JANUARY/FEBRUARY 2011

By Peter Bergen

As we approach the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, FP asked top terrorism experts to take stock of the threat posed by al Qaeda and its allies. And while the majority of respondents believe that al Qaeda is no stronger today than it was a decade ago, they also worry that we are only slightly safer from terrorist attack than we were the day the Twin Towers fell.

The headline finding is surprising: Experts credit nine years of the war on terror with making U.S. soil only marginally more secure -- despite the fact that only 14 Americans have died in jihadist terrorist attacks in the United States since Sept 11. Why the disconnect? Respondents were likely quite cognizant of the numerous serious "near-miss" terrorist operations targeting the homeland, from the Christmas Day 2009 plot to bring down a passenger jet over Detroit to the botched Times Square car bomb attack in May 2010. These plans were devised by al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and the Pakistani Taliban, respectively, and were a powerful reminder that the threat from terrorism is still real.



Read this Slide Show for the full survey results.

A strong majority also predicted that there will be another terror attack in the United States or Europe in the next year. Given that a botched terrorist attack took place in Stockholm, a plot was averted to mount a "Mumbai-style" attack in Copenhagen, and a dozen suspected terrorists were arrested in the United Kingdom -- all since the survey was completed -- the experts were, unfortunately, probably right about this. Still, 78 percent of respondents disagreed with the idea that al Qaeda is stronger today than it was on 9/11.

There is a great deal of bad news for Pakistan in the survey. Overwhelmingly, the experts selected Pakistan as the country that posed the greatest threat to the West today, and a majority also picked it as the country most likely to have its nukes end up in the hands of terrorists. Interestingly, only two experts named Iran as the West's greatest threat or as a nuke proliferator to terror groups. Does this signify the end of the neoconservative notion that state sponsors of terrorism like Iran are more dangerous than groups without state sponsorship such as al Qaeda?

There was widespread agreement that "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding are not effective, although there was something of an even split on whether closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay would improve U.S. security.

Some of the most interesting insights came in the experts' on-the-record responses. Roger Cressey, a National Security Council official under Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton, characterized the CIA's drone program in Pakistan as "the most successful counterterrorism program since 9/11," while retired French counterterrorism prosecutor Jean Louis Brugière elegantly termed the drone strikes "efficient, but not sufficient."

The exponential increase in drone strikes during the Barack Obama administration is one reason why former George W. Bush White House official Richard Falkenrath can say with justification that the Obama administration is "rhetorically dissimilar but substantively almost indistinguishable" from the administration that launched the drone program when it come to its policies on terrorism.

Asked to name the world's most dangerous terrorist, counterinsurgency expert Andrew Exum wisely named not one of the obvious suspects like Osama bin Laden but "the terrorist whose actions precipitate a war between India and Pakistan." Indeed, a "Mumbai II" is one of the most predictable challenges that Obama can reasonably expect to confront in the next two years. And just this past week, Mumbai went on high alert for a possible terrorist attack. Bizarrely, former CIA director James Woolsey named Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as the globe's most dangerous terrorist, a confirmation that, at least in some quarters, neoconservatism is not entirely dead.

Finally, a number of experts had similar views about the biggest mistake by the U.S. government since 9/11: Several cited invading Iraq -- and the resulting failure to get the job done in Afghanistan. Variations of this view were expressed by Cressey, Brugière, diplomatic heavyweight Thomas Pickering, and CIA veteran Bruce Riedel. If this is the first draft of a historical verdict on the war in Iraq, perhaps neoconservativism is, in fact, entering its terminal stage.

Participants (65): Zachary Abuza, John Arquilla, Henri Barkey, Mohamad Bazzi, Peter Bergen, Ilan Berman, Richard Betts, Stephen Biddle, Mia Bloom, Randy Borum, Christopher Boucek, Lianne Kennedy-Boudali, Jarret Brachman, William Braniff, Jean-Louis Bruguière, Daniel Byman, Vincent Cannistraro, Roger Cressey, Gilles Dorronsoro, Clark Ervin, John Esposito, Andrew Exum, Richard Falkenrath, C. Christine Fair, Douglas Farah, Jean-Pierre Filiu, Bernard Finel, Brian Fishman, James Forest, Benjamin Friedman, Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, Fawaz Gerges, Karen Greenberg, Imtiaz Gul, Shadi Hamid, Thomas Hegghammer, John Horgan, Jo Husbands, Michael Innes, Gregory Johnsen, Bruce Jones, Patrick Lang, Matthew Levitt, Scott Malcomson, Daniel Markey, Barry McManus, John Mueller, Shuja Nawaz, Thomas Pickering, Paul Pillar, Daniel Pipes, Magnus Ranstorp, Bruce Riedel, Paul Salem, Reid Sawyer, Steven Simon, Michael Singh, Jessica Stern, Praveen Swami, Camille Tawil, Joas Wagemakers, Andrew Wilder, Paul Wilkinson, R. James Woolsey, Juan Zarate.


ASIF HASSAN/AFP/Getty Images

 SUBJECTS:
 

Peter Bergen, co-editor of the AfPak Channel, directs the National Security Studies Program at the New America Foundation. His most recent book is The Longest War: The Enduring Conflict between America and Al-Qaeda.

CEOUNICOM

11:57 PM ET

January 4, 2011

Good job...

... Confirming almost everything I already think :)

Unfortunately, like most surveys, the top-line always buries a lot of good subtle info. This does more to reinforce status-quo views than offer a whole lot of really interesting insight. Too bad there wasn't a question of "what would either complement or replace drone strikes as a viable means of attacking terrorist safe-havens?" Tough question, but these are supposed to be 'experts', right? :)

Either way, good read.

 

ALI ZAFAR

11:53 AM ET

January 5, 2011

have any of these experts had drone attack at their home?

if anyone of you people sitting in europe have experienced drone attack....then only he is eligible of judging which country is no 1 threat to terror... terror is there on the innocent tribal people of north pakistan who every now and then experience drone passing over their head.....and who knows who die in those attacks.....is it necessary that all 2000 people died in these attacks were millitants....actually terror creating country is 1 who just drop a missile every now and then.

 

MAJA007

1:01 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Our compatriots didn't help a

Our compatriots didn't help a bunch of terrorists to crash planes into buildings either. Nor does our army support terrorists to infiltrate our neighbors and carry out terrorist attacks.

It is an illusion that "only a small people in pakistan are terrorists, and majority of people are peace loving". Majority might not carry out terrorist attacks, but they don't oppose them either (in contrary, majority support terrorists indirectly).

To the author:
"Does this signify the end of the neoconservative notion that state sponsors of terrorism like Iran are more dangerous than groups without state sponsorship such as al Qaeda? "

Al queda is supported by the government of pakistan. Some politicians pretend otherwise only to get some aid money which they can use to build nukes to destroy India.

 

ESOUL

6:09 AM ET

January 6, 2011

To MAJA007

It is so easy to distort the facts. No Pakistani was responsible for 9/11. Pakistan offered all out support to US and had US forces done a good job of cleaning out Tora Bora, we in Pakistan would not have been in the trouble that we are in. We are victims of terrorism perpetrated by those who cross AfPak border with impunity, but is it only Pakistan's responsibility to stop them? What are the US and NATO forces doing on the other side? From where these terrorists are getting weapons, when everyone knows they don't have any supply route through Pakistan?

US and NATO troops in Afghanistan have no control on any activity outside their garrisons. Had they established some control over Afghan soil, few Taliban crossing from Pakistan could not have done much harm. Now, the prolonged US occupation is radicalizing Pashtuns on both sides of borders and drone attacks on Pakistani soil are fueling anti-US sentiment all over Pakistan. The week central government is loosing its legitimacy in the eyes of common man because of its tacit support for such attacks.

Continued US drone attacks and anti-Pakistan western media will further weaken the hands of those who support US operations. The end result could be such destabilization of Pakistan that threats mentioned in this survey become self-fulfilling prophesies.

The survey should have asked these expert about what changes need to be brought in counter-terrorism strategy to achieve the original objective of making US more safe from terrorist threats.

 

ALI ZAFAR

11:45 AM ET

January 5, 2011

assets which europe want to take away from us

My country Pakistan :2nd largest salt mine;5th largest gold mine;5th largest coal reserves;7th largest copper mine;7th largest rice producer;8th largest wheat producer;2nd largest dam;3 nuclear reactors;5 rivers;6th largest army;7th nuclear power;one of the strongest army in the World..........

 

MICHAEL CAIN

12:32 PM ET

January 5, 2011

pakastan

when you aspire to compliment Pakastan as having the largest and most effecient army then it must be true that they also have the largest protection for the Terrorist.Why ??? is it because they are sympatic to their causes ???perhaps wish they could do the same???It would behove Pakastan to persue those criminals and put an end to world wars that are typically cowardly .The ability of the cowards of the entire world to place fear into the hearts of billions of people are not justified.In the end it will be the meek and the kind and loving that will strike out and destroy all terrorists.No matter what name trhey choose to use.So some one tell them so.

 

ARYABHAT

6:03 AM ET

January 6, 2011

Assets you are spending on!

Lets see each of the indicator you have mentioned.

Salt, well, do you even have a world renowned brand of Salt? No. What you are doing is toiling away in Salt fields, which developed world has no interest in. Else, there is enough salt in the Oceans. And with Salt, what exactly you would do? Stop selling it to world? Try it and wonder yourself as no one would flutter an eye lid!

Gold and Copper are RESERVES. So has a lot of other countries. Ever guessed WHY Pakistan is targetted? Does all attacks on West (or even Mumbai) being linked to Pakistan register on your radar as reason?

Wheat and Rice, you are one of the biggest CONSUMER too! So you are doing no favour to the world. In terms of Policy, you are actually giving away your fertile land to Arabs on contract farming for 25-100 years. That is called Mortgaging family silver. If you are so worked up about Europe taking away your assets, first try stopping Arabs, as they would surely take away food produced in Pakistani fields to Arabia while Millions of poor Pakistanis starve.

3 Nuclear reactors. Well, that is actually a source of concern when the Governor of the biggest province and an ex-PM are killed within 3 years of each others, in the most "Liberal" city of Paksitan. May be one day the list may include Army Chief, PM and/or President. So do you really deserve to keep Nukes?

6th Largest Army that OWN a country called Pakistan! Ahh, and 6th largest Army that can not stop LARGEST human fatalities in 2010 by terror attacks. WHY? Because it is made of TERRORISTS! Again, your "asset" is a liability for civilised world Mr Zafar!

Most importantly, lets see you are spending your assets on what. As per your budget of this year, 560bn Pak Rs. is defence spending v/s 1.1bn Pak Rs on Eduction. Does this bit seem important to you? I don't think so.

That is why Pakistan need to be stripped of some of your "assets" like Nukes - which is a liability to civilised world.

And your Salt, well, you may keep it and eat is as much as you like!

 

ALI ZAFAR

12:37 PM ET

January 6, 2011

especially for arybahat

remember Pakistan is not fighting war for itself...it's for america and entire World..and this army is protecting entire world from afghan taliban....and when we talk about pakistan taliban...u have to first read the history....when pakistan became independent it was decided pak would leave this tribal area independently but it was america who moved in afghan and now started drone attacks on these villagers who were not even involove in any world affairs...secondly if pakistan army is supportin den y wud it loose 2100 of it's soldiers dead...pak was a peaceful country before 9.11.and this all could end if we close our border with afghanistan...and if pak will do so....this would become world's major concern.....and also pakistan's ports are used for refuelling by d entire europe and are a cheaper way for your products to reach central asia.....

 

RDWHAH

2:21 PM ET

January 5, 2011

This Article

"Bizarrely, former CIA director James Woolsey named Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as the globe's most dangerous terrorist, a confirmation that, at least in some quarters, neoconservatism is not entirely dead."

This is one of the stupider things I've ever read. I guess the author has such an overwhelming left-wing bias that this sort of propaganda needs to be inserted into the article. It doesn't say much for the editor, either.

Iran, under Ahmadinejad, produces the rockets that Hizbollah fires into Israel to terrify the population. They aren't fired at military targets, they are purely a terror weapon.
Iran is also active in Iraq. One interesting revelation of Wikileaks is that they are believed to have successfully murdered over 100 former Iraqi air force pilots who flew over Iran in their war. They are also active helping AlSadr terrorize his fellow citizens (as well as helping attack US troops).
In terms of effectiveness, as measured by number of people actually killed and weapons actually used to terrorize, Ahmadinejad is possibly the worlds most dangerous terrorist. Iranians get the job done, as opposed to shoe bombers, underwear bombers, Times Square bombers, etc. who try hard but ultimately fail. Obviously, the Mumbai murderers and their handlers are
also up there too. In both cases, the professionalism of government support seems to aid effictiveness.

 

FORALL

2:53 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Left wing propaganda? You're

Left wing propaganda?

You're obviously too blind to realise all the inherent contradictions in your post:

In regards to Iranians producing missiles, the biggest arms seller in the world is the United States of America. They sell weapons to anyone and everyone regardless of whether they kill civilian or military targets. Might be time to wake up brother.

In regards to Iran being active in its 'NEIGHBOUR' (often forgotten extremely relevant fact) Iraq, what the hell is the United States doing there? Being un-active??? The world really is in a pitiful state when the US in Iraq can point the finger at Iran and somehow claim their presence is unjust, or illegal. A comment as simple as the one you made goes a long way in showing how indoctrinated you really are... Lets put Iranians in Mexico and see how long it takes for the US to react. Or even better, why doesn't the US pull out all of its interests from Canada and Mexico, and let Iran take care of them instead?

In regards to efficient murder and state sponsorship for calculated terror, there is only one number 1: the US of A. In Iran, which you seem to be very interested in, the US openly supports the Jundullah, and arms them to murder Iranian civilians in mosques. Lets not even get into the MEK, as that is a whole different clusterfk altogether. Suffices to say, you're a complete hypocrite if you like to parrot the usual Hezbollah and Hamas chants but are clueless when somebody mentions US funded Islamist Marxists murdering innocent children.

As for Israel, the biggest user of American weapons to terrorise civilians, best not get into that either..... Might make your head spin.

 

TCH

3:40 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Forall?

Your argument has some relevant points however that does not excuse Iran or Pakistan's actions.

 

ANTIMKO

9:48 AM ET

January 7, 2011

IDF propaganda strikes again

well done cheif!

 

U_FAROOQ

4:49 PM ET

January 5, 2011

credibility

Are these the same 8 experts who thought IRAQ had WMDs?

 

BASHY QURAISHY

6:26 PM ET

January 5, 2011

The FP Survey: Terrorism

Dear FP
Although, I am no fan of the armchair western intellectuals and so-called experts, this article on terrorism by Peter Bergen is the most ignorant piece of journalistic analysis, I have read in a long time.
As a media consultant and human rights activist, I am time and again amazed at the large numbers of doomsday predictions about Pakistan and other Muslim countries, which not only never come true but confirm my suspicion that West is overwhelmingly anti-Islam. This article is a good example. It has so many false assumptions and outright lies that I need to point out to you, for your own credibility.
Peter Bergen gives two recent examples of supposed terrorist plot, both in Scandinavia, where I live calling these; “A botched terrorist attack took place in Stockholm;
There was no terrorist plot in Stockholm but a stupid violent effort by an Iraqi young man who was pissed off at USA’s killing of his countrymen. One should condemn such individual actions in the strongest but please do not call it a plot, which requires the involvement of many people and a planning. Both of these elements were not there.
Then he calls the Copenhagen arrests: A plot was averted to mount a "Mumbai-style" attack in Copenhagen. I live in Copenhagen. No one, not even the Secret Service in Denmark – PET has called these arrests in such stupid terms. Why FR insists on making up stories to scare people, is best known to the editorial staff but it does not bear well with neutral journalism. Has it occurred to you that majority of these arrests are on bogus grounds and often people who are accused of plotting terrorism are quietly released?
Now I come to the worst supposition of all, namely your statement that:
“Overwhelmingly, the experts selected Pakistan as the country that posed the greatest threat to the West today, and a majority also picked it as the country most likely to have its nukes end up in the hands of terrorists”.
These so-called western experts must be basing their prejudicial assumptions on some facts. Let me ask;
What empirical scientific data, do you have that proves that Pakistan is the greatest threat to the West? How can a single developing country can threaten west - an area of the world with most atom bombs, missiles, economic muscle and political blackmailing power? Does it make any sense to make such ridiculous claim? To any thinking person, it does not.
As far as the nukes falling in the hands of terrorist’s Pakistani nukes are not a basket of bananas sitting on a super market shelf. Pakistani nukes are protected by the thousands of elite commandos of Pakistan army, which is the 7 largest outfit in the world, with a very professional setup, chain of command system, checks and controls and second to none in protecting the country.
So please do criticise Pakistan, but use logic, common sense and honesty. From your coverage of Pakistan, I am forced to deduce that the only reason, you and other Western thinkers are so anti-Pakistan is because it is the only Muslim country with nukes, and that does not fit well with your global geo-political agenda. Am I right?
Kind regards

"the terrorist whose actions precipitate a war between India and Pakistan."

 

ARYABHAT

6:46 AM ET

January 6, 2011

Human rights for inhumans!

In name of Human rights activism you are trying to justifyl the unjustifyable.

1) Firstly, "There was no terrorist plot in Stockholm but a stupid violent effort by an Iraqi young man who was pissed off at USA’s killing of his countrymen. " Well, well, Why are you hiding the fact that this pissed of Iraqi could have stayed back in Iraq and fought bravely with US forces? Why civilian Swedes as target when it was Sweden that gave Asylum to this "Pissed off" Iraqi in first place and Swedish civilians paid for his up keep through their Taxes? And if you believe that it was just a stupid act, may be you should visit Luton when this "Pissed off" Iraqi lived, as I have lived in Luton. The place breeds Islamic intolarance, to put it mildly. Ahhh, and yes, it is full of Pakistanis!

2) Secondly, responding to your comments "Pakistani nukes are protected by the thousands of elite commandos of Pakistan army, which is the 7 largest outfit in the world, ......." Well, look at the evidence of penetration in security set-up itself, with the involvement of army and Air Force officers in the two unsuccessful attempts to kill Gen. Pervez Musharraf in Rawalpindi in December 2003, and in the assassination of 19 officers of the US-trained Special Services Group (SSG) by a Pashtun Army officer belonging to the SSG.

The Pashtun officer blew himself up during dinner at the headquarters mess of the SSG at Tarbela Ghazi, 100 kms south of Islamabad, on the night of September 13, 2007. An army soldier Naik Arshad Mahmood was among those sentenced to death in the case relating to the attempts to kill Musharraf. He was executed. The investigation brought out that some of the plotting against Musharraf was carried out in Air Force barracks in the Islamabad-Rawalpindi area.

Then came the murder of ex-PM Ms Bhutto and now Salman Taseer, Governor of the biggest province of Pakistan in the most "moderate" city. Last event is even more worrisome than the brutal assassination of Benazir Bhutto at Rawalpindi on December 27, 2007, because of the mixed reactions that it has evoked. Benazir's assassination evoked widespread shock and grief all over Pakistan. There were no reported incidents of people welcoming her assassination. The assassination of Taseer has been condemned by some and welcomed by others. Many---not necessarily confined to the clergy--- have welcomed it as a well-deserved punishment by God because of his criticism of the blasphemy law.

So how long before Chief of Army and President or PM are killed by radicals who are part of security set-up of Pakistan and then blackmail the civilised world with Nukes? This is NO prejudice. This is a simple case of Capability and Intention coming together.

3) West has never targetted Pakistan because it is Islamic. Rather Pakistan keeps flaunting its Nukes as Islamic Nukes. With the violant history of Islam spreading it on sword, loot and rapes, and recent revival of radical Islam, civilised world has reason to be concerned with Pakistan (that calls itself citadel of Islam and nurtures ambition of making whole world Islamic) having Nukes.

 

DMOLONEY

10:47 AM ET

January 7, 2011

There was no terrorist plot

There was no terrorist plot in Stockholm but a stupid violent effort by an Iraqi young man who was pissed off at USA’s killing of his countrymen.

Actually he was pissed off about a catoonist, also he was angry that western troops got involved in afghanistan even though most afghans see the invasion as right.

Also one person can be behind a plot.

What empirical scientific data, do you have that proves that Pakistan is the greatest threat to the West?

Its reasonable, terrorists with strong anti western feelings have come from that region, also just because they are not as strong as the west doesnt mean that it is not a threat.

Youre entire argument that there is some sort of anti-islamic bias here is wrong, the analysis is reasonable

 

SREEKANTH

6:43 PM ET

January 7, 2011

a little fact checking ...

Bashir, you write

"
Then he calls the Copenhagen arrests: A plot was averted to mount a "Mumbai-style" attack in Copenhagen. I live in Copenhagen. No one, not even the Secret Service in Denmark – PET has called these arrests in such stupid terms
"

A simple google search yields a BBC news item

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12093617

"
On Wednesday, the head of PET, Jackob Scharf said the men were part of "a militant Islamic group with links to international terrorist networks" and that they aimed to "carry out a Mumbai-style attack".
"

The internet is a wonderful thing for fact checking.

 

DARKPUS

10:19 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Father Zakarias Boutros

Father Zakarias Boutros is #1 in my book, he will spread the Muslims and Christians in the Middle East and get them to bleed each other, all in the name of religion:

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/14763

Father Zakaria, as he is known to millions, has won his enormous following not by borrowing from the toolbox of the televangelist. For someone whose ecclesiastical tradition began in a.d. 100, his tools are decidedly 21st century: satellite uplinks, Wi-Fi connectivity, a late-edition Vaio laptop that is with him at all times, and a trusted reference tool he refers to as “St. Google.” He can spend 14-hour days on research for each show, and for this episode emailed the final script to producers at 4:30 a.m.

The result is less a preaching ministry and more like battlefield strategy. It’s the late-in-life culmination of a conscious decision, Botros says, to move away from apologetics and toward what he calls polemics: “My program is to attack Islam, not to attack Muslims but to save them because they are deceived. As I love Muslims, I hate Islam.”

Such conviction earns Botros a heady following—and serious enemies. Jihadist groups have reportedly posted a death threat worth $60 million against him. This year his name and photo appeared on an al-Qaeda website, seeking retribution for his teachings, which often depict Muhammad as less of a prophet and more of a womanizer. For his fearless determination in the face of his enemies, for his willingness to label Islam a false religion in a year when many Christian leaders have overreached in their quest for common ground with its worshippers, Zakaria Botros is WORLD’s 2008 Daniel of the Year.

 

DARKPUS

10:24 PM ET

January 5, 2011

American Evangelical Support

Father Zakarias Boutros will do this all by, with, through American evangelical support. It's not the Middle East you need to worry about, not even the Near East, it's the Mid-West Bible Belt inserting money into the pants of the likes of Father Zakarias Boutros to foment this soon to be bloodier divide. God help you all.

 

DARKPUS

10:25 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Exum's Wife

Andrew Exum is not only smart, he has a cute wife.

 

ESOUL

6:22 AM ET

January 6, 2011

Do these Experts work on Facts or Whims?

The survey from these experts shows their deep prejudices, which have no relevance to facts.

It is so easy to distort the facts. No Pakistani was responsible for 9/11. Pakistan offered all out support to US and had US forces done a good job of cleaning out Tora Bora, we in Pakistan would not have been in the trouble that we are in. We are victims of terrorism perpetrated by those who cross AfPak border with impunity, but is it only Pakistan's responsibility to stop them? What are the US and NATO forces doing on the other side? From where these terrorists are getting weapons, when everyone knows they don't have any supply route through Pakistan?

US and NATO troops in Afghanistan have no control on any activity outside their garrisons. Had they established some control over Afghan soil, few Taliban crossing from Pakistan could not have done much harm. Now, the prolonged US occupation is radicalizing Pashtuns on both sides of borders and drone attacks on Pakistani soil are fueling anti-US sentiment all over Pakistan. The week central government is loosing its legitimacy in the eyes of common man because of its tacit support for such attacks.

Continued US drone attacks and anti-Pakistan western media will further weaken the hands of those who support US operations. The end result could be such destabilization of Pakistan that threats mentioned in this survey become self-fulfilling prophesies.

The survey should have asked these expert about what changes need to be brought in counter-terrorism strategy to achieve the original objective of making US more safe from terrorist threats.

 

ANTIMKO

9:49 AM ET

January 7, 2011

those who think iran is the greatest threat

"Interestingly, only two experts named Iran as the West's greatest threat or as a nuke proliferator to terror groups."

Let me guess, they also think Israel is the bastion of freedom and democracy and that Arabs deserve all that is coming to them!

 

BASHY QURAISHY

4:49 PM ET

January 7, 2011

The FP Survey: Terrorism

I just read two comments by ARYABHAT, one a response to my comment and one against a person, who was trying to tell the readers of FP, how important Pakistan is in resources and geo-political placing.
Anyhow, let me reply to Mr. ARYABHAT or Miss ARYABHAT. It is always difficult to address people who hide their true identity and dish out poison against other countries, ideas and religions.
The name ARYABHAT belongs to a remarkable mathematician who was born in Patna –the present India in 476 AD. He was a genius who continues to baffle many mathematicians of today. His works was ten later adopted by the Greeks and then the Arabs.
But unfortunately, now-a-days when people with Indian Hindu roots including this ARYABHAT comment blogs concerning Pakistan, Pakistanis, Islam and Muslim communities, they use a language full of hate, arrogance and out right hostility. It is a pity but so are the realities, one has to live by. The partition of British India has left deep scars of hurt and anger on the psyche of present day Indians or Bharatis.
ARYABHAT Says: “As the Arabs would surely take away food produced in Pakistani fields to Arabia while Millions of poor Pakistanis starve”.
I do not know, from where ARYABHAT has his information but one thing, the whole world knows that Pakistanis do not starve or live their lives on foot paths like millions upon millions do in major cities of India. Nearly 400 million Indians live under 2 dollars a day. I have seen with my own eyes, the misery, most Indian live in villages and towns.
ARYABHAT Says “That is why Pakistan need to be stripped of some of your "assets" like Nukes - which is a liability to civilized world”.
Even an elementary school child will tell ARYABHAT that the whole Pakistani nuclear program was in response to Indian efforts to build nukes to destroy Pakistan. It was India which test exploded nukes and Pakistan had to follow. Otherwise Pakistan has no need to. It has to protect itself against Extreme Hindu nationalism and anti-Pak forces in India, which still claim Pakistan. Pakistani nukes are a guarantee against India and not liability to anyone. Pakistan has asked India time and again to have a no war pact but it was rejected. I am sure that if India keeps to UN resolutions to hold elections in Kashmir, peace will come. Then, there will be no need to have large armies, nukes or other WMD. By the way, who is this civilized world, you are referring. I do not hope that you mean - USA, UK and India, the three countries, which has the blood of millions of innocent people on their hands. Look what USA did in Latin America, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen and many other places. UK’s history is full of shameful exterminations all across the globe. India has on a smaller scale killed 60000 innocent Kashmir’s, Nexalites, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians in various plundering. May I continue? So spare me of this civilization lecture.
“The place breeds Islamic intolerance, to put it mildly. Ahhh, and yes, it is full of Pakistanis!”
In UK, Luton included, there lives roughly 1 million Pakistanis. They live all over the place. Calling the presence of few thousand Pakistanis in Luton as breeding Islamic intolerance shows the accuser’s state of mind and Islamophobic nature of an ill-informed person than the reality on the ground. There are other nationalities in Luton too. To make it a religious issue is just not fair or even wise.
“Two unsuccessful attempts to kill Gen. Pervez Musharraf, the murder of ex-PM Ms Bhutto and now Salman Taseer
No one is saying that there is no militancy in Pakistan and since army soldiers are recruited from the wider public, it does have some low ranking people, who may have been influenced by extremists. Attempts on former President Musharaf were tackled by the authorities swiftly and correctly. From there to malign Pak army as weak and full of extremists is totally non-sense. Pak army is very well disciplined and professional and strong. That is why India dares not attack Pakistan again. Bhutto’s murder was carried out by the children of those evil forces, which were created by CIA to fight the Soviet Union and who are now being armed and financed by India and Russia to hit back. For Russia, it is the pay back time and for India, any action, which weakens Pakistan has divine benefit for them.
“With the violent history of Islam spreading it on sword, loot and rapes, and recent revival of radical Islam, civilized world has reason to be concerned with Pakistan (that calls itself citadel of Islam and nurtures ambition of making whole world Islamic”.
This above comment from A RYABHAT is self explanatory but full of hatred of Islam born from Hindu nationalism, which has not forgiven the Muslims who ruled Bharat or Hindustan for 1000 years, mostly graciously and with justice, but with few short bursts of oppression by individual emperors. But that is part of history. We can not remake it and the faster Indians come over their inferiority complex against Muslim conquests, the better for all of us.

Kind regards

Bashy Quraishy

 

OPSUDRANIA

2:08 PM ET

January 8, 2011

World in turmoil

Reading the comments interest me more than the post which a monotonous piece of news. Whereas the comments are more colourful. I have no doubt about it here too. The great country called Pak-Istan is being denigrated by these anti-islamists is really abhorent. They do not know the realities of Pakistan and good for them that do not know the realities. Because there is much to be known to safeguard yourself. Pakistan is fighting US war, people should know, how stupid of them? They have not known even this basic fact and they come here to comment. How silly of them?
God these anti-Pakistanis. I certainly pity for them. Islam is a pious religion. It is the rest of the world that has demonised it by killings, rapings in Kashmir, Israel, US and West and Russia too. China perhaps do not do it openly because it does not open it.

Let God bless and shower peace upon them
Dr. O. P. Sudrania