Unconventional Wisdom

A special anniversary report challenging the world's most dangerous thinking.

JANUARY/FEBRUARY 2011

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In Foreign Policy's first issue, published at the height of American exhaustion with the war in Vietnam, founders Samuel P. Huntington and Warren D. Manshel promised to challenge the prevailing orthodoxy in Washington. And with provocative essays from the likes of John Kenneth Galbraith -- who famously coined the term "conventional wisdom" and spent a career fighting against it -- and Richard Holbrooke -- who as a serving Foreign Service officer ripped the State Department as "the machine that fails" -- an insurgency was born. Forty years later, upending assumptions is embedded in FP's DNA. In that spirit, we offer this, our 40th Anniversary package tackling the world's most dangerous conventional wisdoms.

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Thomas Homer-Dixon
ECONOMIES CAN'T JUST KEEP ON GROWING

Humanity has made great strides over the past 2,000 years, and we often assume that our path, notwithstanding a few bumps along the way, goes ever upward. But we are wrong: Within this century, environmental and resource constraints will likely bring global economic growth to a halt.

Limits on available resources already restrict economic activity in many sectors, though their impact usually goes unacknowledged. Take rare-earth elements -- minerals and oxides essential to the manufacture of many technologies. When China recently stopped exporting them, sudden shortages threatened to crimp a wide range of industries. Most commentators believed that the supply crunch would ease once new (or mothballed) rare-earth mines are opened. But such optimism overlooks a fundamental physical reality. As the best bodies of ore are exhausted, miners move on to less concentrated deposits in more difficult natural circumstances. These mines cause more pollution and require more energy. In other words, opening new rare-earth mines outside China will result in staggering environmental impact.

Or consider petroleum, which provides about 40 percent of the world's commercial energy and more than 95 percent of its transportation energy. Oil companies generally have to work harder to get each new barrel of oil. The amount of energy they receive for each unit of energy they invest in drilling has dropped from 100 to 1 in Texas in the 1930s to about 15 to 1 in the continental United States today. The oil sands in Alberta, Canada, yield a return of only 4 to 1.

Coal and natural gas still have high energy yields. So, as oil becomes harder to get in coming decades, these energy sources will become increasingly vital to the global economy. But they're fossil fuels, and burning them generates climate-changing carbon dioxide. If the World Bank's projected rates for global economic growth hold steady, global output will have risen almost tenfold by 2100, to more than $600 trillion in today's dollars. So even if countries make dramatic reductions in carbon emissions per dollar of GDP, global carbon dioxide emissions will triple from today's level to more than 90 billion metric tons a year. Scientists tell us that tripling carbon emissions would cause such extreme heat waves, droughts, and storms that farmers would likely find they couldn't produce the food needed for the world's projected population of 9 billion people. Indeed, the economic damage caused by such climate change would probably, by itself, halt growth.

Humankind is in a box. For the 2.7 billion people now living on less than $2 a day, economic growth is essential to satisfying the most basic requirements of human dignity. And in much wealthier societies, people need growth to pay off their debts, support liberty, and maintain civil peace. To produce and sustain this growth, they must expend vast amounts of energy. Yet our best energy source -- fossil fuel -- is the main thing contributing to climate change, and climate change, if unchecked, will halt growth.

We can't live with growth, and we can't live without it. This contradiction is humankind's biggest challenge this century, but as long as conventional wisdom holds that growth can continue forever, it's a challenge we can't possibly address.

Thomas Homer-Dixon is the CIGI chair of global systems at the Balsillie School of International Affairs in Waterloo, Canada.

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Anne Applebaum 
HOMELAND SECURITY HASN'T MADE US SAFER

Hardly anyone has seriously scrutinized either the priorities or the spending patterns of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its junior partner, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), since their hurried creation in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. Sure, they get criticized plenty. But year in, year out, they continue to grow faster and cost more -- presumably because Americans think they are being protected from terrorism by all that spending. Yet there is no evidence whatsoever that the agencies are making Americans any safer.

DHS serves only one clear purpose: to provide unimaginable bonanzas for favored congressional districts around the United States, most of which face no statistically significant security threat at all. One thinks of the $436,504 that the Blackfeet Nation of Montana received in fiscal 2010 "to help strengthen the nation against risks associated with potential terrorist attacks"; the $1,000,000 that the village of Poynette, Wisconsin (pop. 2,266) received in fiscal 2009 for an "emergency operations center"; or the $67,000 worth of surveillance equipment purchased by Marin County, California, and discovered, still in its original packaging, four years later. And indeed, every U.S. state, no matter how landlocked or underpopulated, receives, by law, a fixed percentage of homeland security spending every year.

As for the TSA, I am not aware of a single bomber or bomb plot stopped by its time-wasting procedures. In fact, TSA screeners consistently fail to spot the majority of fake "bombs" and bomb parts the agency periodically plants to test their skills. In Los Angeles, whose airport was targeted by the "millennium plot" on New Year's 2000, screeners failed some 75 percent of these tests.

Terrorists have been stopped since 2001 and plots prevented, but always by other means. After the Nigerian "underwear bomber" of Christmas Day 2009 was foiled, DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano claimed "the system worked" -- but the bomber was caught by a passenger, not the feds. Richard Reid, the 2001 shoe bomber, was undone by an alert stewardess who smelled something funny. The 2006 Heathrow Airport plot was uncovered by an intelligence tip. Al Qaeda's recent attempt to explode cargo planes was caught by a human intelligence source, not an X-ray machine. Yet the TSA responds to these events by placing restrictions on shoes, liquids, and now perhaps printer cartridges.

Given this reality -- and given that 9/11 was, above all, a massive intelligence failure -- wouldn't we be safer if the vast budgets of TSA and its partners around the world were diverted away from confiscating nail scissors and toward creating better information systems and better intelligence? Imagine if security officers in Amsterdam had been made aware of the warnings the underwear bomber's father gave to the U.S. Embassy in Abuja. Or, for that matter, if consular officers had prevented him from receiving a visa in the first place.

Better still, DHS could be broken up into its component parts, with special funding and planning carried out at the federal level only for cities and buildings that are actually at risk of terrorist attack. Here is the truth: New York City requires a lot more homeland security spending, per capita, than Poynette. Here is the even starker truth: Poynette needs no homeland security spending at all. The events of 9/11 did not prove that the United States needs to spend more on local police forces and fire brigades; they proved that Americans need to learn how to make better use of the information they have and apply it with speed and efficiency.

Anne Applebaum is a columnist for the Washington Post and Slate.

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Joseph S. Nye Jr. 
CHINA'S RISE DOESN'T MEAN WAR…

Thucydides famously attributed the Peloponnesian War to the rise in power of Athens and the fear it created in Sparta. A century ago, Germany's rise and the fear it created in Britain helped cause World War I. Now, it's become a new conventional wisdom in some circles that China's rise and the fear it is creating in the United States -- where recent polls show 60 percent believe the country is in decline -- could doom the 21st century to a similar fate. As scholar John Mearsheimer has put it, China's rise cannot be peaceful.

One should be skeptical about such dire projections. Americans go through cycles of declinism every decade or so, but that tells us more about America's psychology than its power resources. Not only is the United States likely to remain the most powerful country in the first half of this century, but China still has a long way to go to catch up in military, economic, and soft power.

In contrast, Germany had already surpassed Britain in industrial power by 1900, and the kaiser was pursuing an adventurous, globally oriented foreign and military policy that was bound to bring about a clash. But China today has focused its policies primarily on its region and its own economic development. China's "market-Leninist" economic model is attractive in authoritarian countries, but this so-called Beijing Consensus has the opposite effect in most democracies.

And even if China's GDP passes U.S. GDP around 2027 (as Goldman Sachs now projects), the two economies would be equivalent in size, not equal in composition. China would still face massive rural poverty and enormous inequality, and it will begin to encounter demographic problems from the delayed effects of its one-child policy. Moreover, as countries develop, there is a natural tendency for growth rates to slow. By my calculations, if China's annual growth goes down to 6 percent and the U.S. economy grows at 2 percent per year after 2030, China will not equal the United States in per capita income until decades later. So China is a long way from posing the kind of challenge to America that the kaiser's Germany posed to Britain in 1900.

None of this means the dangers of conflict can be completely ruled out in Asia, as China's recent disputes over various contested island chains remind us. But given shared global challenges like financial stability, cybercrime, nuclear proliferation, and climate change, China and the United States also have much to gain from working together. Unfortunately, faulty projections that create hubris among some Chinese and unnecessary fear of decline among some Americans could make it difficult to ensure this future.

Not every power's rise leads to war -- witness America's peaceful overtaking of Britain at the end of the 19th century. So remembering Thucydides's advice, it is important to prevent exaggerated fears from leading to a self-fulfilling prophecy. Or, to paraphrase Franklin D. Roosevelt, we can make ourselves safer by being wary of fear itself.

Joseph S. Nye Jr. is University Distinguished Service Professor at Harvard University and author of The Future of Power.

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Daniel W. Drezner 
…AND CHINA ISN'T BEATING THE U.S.

China is a great power in every sense of the word. It is the most populous country in the world. The Middle Kingdom has weathered the Great Recession better than the West. It is developing a blue-water navy to rival the United States in the Pacific. In 2010, China surpassed Japan as the world's second-largest economy. For many Americans, however, this is not enough. Politicians, commentators, and the public believe China has already supplanted the United States to achieve primacy in world politics. This is not only wrong -- it is dangerously wrong.

According to a November 2009 Pew Research Center survey, 44 percent of Americans believe that China is "the world's leading economic power," compared with 27 percent who name the United States. Elites have fed this mass perception. After a midterm election cycle that featured anti-China ad after anti-China ad, President Barack Obama warned, "Other countries like China aren't standing still, so we can't stand still either." With public perception and political rhetoric like this, it is little wonder that Forbes magazine recently named Chinese President Hu Jintao the world's most powerful individual.

It's time to make a few things clear. If one measures power strictly according to GDP at market exchange rates, then the United States is roughly 250 percent more powerful than China. If one uses a combination of metrics -- as does, for example, the U.S. National Intelligence Council's 2025 project -- then China possesses a little less than half of America's relative power. Even on the financial side, the U.S. still reigns, and, hype notwithstanding, the dollar is not going anywhere as the world's reserve currency. The renminbi could be an alternative in the far future -- but after the 2008 financial crisis, China is loath to open up its capital markets. Even by the less tangible metrics of soft power, the United States still outperforms China handily in new public opinion surveys from the Pacific Rim by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.

Right now, the United States is vastly more powerful than the People's Republic of China. Anyone telling you otherwise is selling you something.

Why the massive misperception? In part, people are looking at the wrong measures. China has the world's largest currency reserves, leading many to conclude that Beijing now has the ability to dictate terms to the United States and everyone else. But that just ain't so. The "balance of financial terror" constrains China as well as the United States because China needs American consumers at least as much as the United States needs China to buy its debt.

No doubt, China amassed more power while American might ebbed over the last decade, and Beijing is now throwing its weight around. But the United States still has a huge lead. As for China's recent bout of belligerence, it has yielded Beijing little beyond Japan releasing a fishing-boat captain -- while pushing South Asia and the Pacific Rim closer to the United States.

Exaggerating Chinese power has consequences. Inside the Beltway, attitudes about American hegemony have shifted from complacency to panic. Fearful politicians representing scared voters have an incentive to scapegoat or lash out against a rising power -- to the detriment of all. Hysteria about Chinese power also provokes confusion and anger in China as Beijing is being asked to accept a burden it is not yet prepared to shoulder. China, after all, ranks 89th in the 2010 U.N. Human Development Index, just behind Turkmenistan and the Dominican Republic (the United States is fourth). Treating Beijing as more powerful than it is feeds Chinese bravado and insecurity at the same time. That is almost as dangerous a political cocktail as fear and panic.

Daniel W. Drezner, professor of international politics at Tufts University's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy, blogs at ForeignPolicy.com.

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Aluf Benn
UNDERSTANDING HISTORY WON'T HELP US MAKE PEACE

We're often told that understanding history will help us better understand the present. But the past can be a very dangerous place. Just look at the world's longest-lasting conflicts -- between Palestinians and Israelis, Indians and Pakistanis, the peoples of the Balkans. All involve long, and unhealthy, glances in the rearview mirror.

Where I come from, the political culture has been shaped by incessant digging in history, aimed at supporting the dueling narratives in the Palestine conflict. My inbox often collapses under the weight of contradicting evidence that either the Jews or the Arabs lived in the Holy Land before the other. There is hardly a scientific discipline that has not been invoked to support conflicting claims about the past, from archaeology and philology to biology and genetics.

Resolving the mystery of who was here first has become an obsession because it seems to offer a final judgment on who is right and who is wrong, on who were the indigenous people of Palestine and who were the usurpers. Alas, whenever one side boasts about the ultimate proof, its adversary produces another, better one. A 2003 Israeli textbook aimed at teaching the conflicting narratives side by side shows how pointless our debates have become: The Jewish narrative relies on the Bible to link today's Israelis to the ancient Israelites while the Palestinian counternarrative reaches back to the Jebusites, who ruled Jerusalem before King David's occupation, as the forefathers of contemporary Palestinians.

Unfortunately, this pseudo-historical dispute lies at the heart of the current political debate. At the most crucial moment of the 2000 Camp David summit, for example, Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat argued with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and U.S. President Bill Clinton about whether a Jewish temple preceded the Muslim shrines on the Jerusalem site known as the Temple Mount or Haram al-Sharif. Having failed to resolve the present-day conflict, the leaders retreated to a pointless debate about history. Their failure led to the bloodbath of the Second Intifada.

The current Israeli and Palestinian leaders are similarly obsessed. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, son of an eminent historian, demands Palestinian recognition of Israel as "the state of the Jewish people," arguing that only such recognition could end the conflict. Recently, he declared Rachel's Tomb in Bethlehem and the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron as "national heritage sites." When UNESCO argued that these sites reside in occupied Palestinian territory, Netanyahu blamed it for trying to "detach the people of Israel from its heritage." For his part, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas focuses on his people's victimhood and seeks "justice" for past abuses, the 1948 exile foremost among them.

Because accepting the other side's narrative amounts to destroying your own, there can be no compromise.

This has not always been so. When Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin and Egyptian President Anwar Sadat negotiated their peace deal in the late 1970s, they put the past aside and constructed a new relationship rather than fruitlessly debate who had been the aggressor and who had been the victim. When Arafat and Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin signed the 1993 Oslo Accords, they wasted little time on history lessons and focused instead on building a future. But Rabin's 1995 assassination and the ensuing collapse of Oslo brought the ghosts back to the negotiating table, where they have stayed ever since.

In Europe, the belligerent past is visible everywhere, but contemporary European politicians wisely ignore it and look forward. Would that our squabbling leaders in the Middle East could do the same.

Aluf Benn is editor at large of the Israeli daily Haaretz.

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Leslie H. Gelb
AMERICA PRESSURES ISRAEL PLENTY

Scholars, pundits, propagandists, and journalists have created two dangerous pieces of conventional wisdom about the Middle East: that Israelis, not Palestinians, have been the main stumbling block to peace, and that the United States has failed to use its influence to pressure Israel for serious compromises. Both propositions are largely untrue. If uncorrected, these myths could make both Palestinians and Israelis feel irretrievably wronged and unwilling ever to negotiate in good faith.

Israel has a long and compelling history of making major concessions to Arabs. Egyptian President Anwar Sadat went to Jerusalem in 1977, and less than two years later, Israel agreed to return the entire Sinai Peninsula, booty of a war it did not start and an act of territorial generosity unprecedented in modern history. Israelis negotiated with Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat, whom they rightly considered a terrorist. At the end of U.S. President Bill Clinton's administration, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered the Palestinians several key concessions, including more than 90 percent of the West Bank. After the Annapolis initiative put forward by George W. Bush's administration, one of Barak's successors, Ehud Olmert, upped the offerings considerably: more of the West Bank, a sliver of Arab East Jerusalem for a Palestinian capital, and a land swap to give the new Palestinian state a land link to Gaza. Olmert even privately accepted "the right of return" to Israel for a certain number of Palestinian refugees. To both generous proposals, the Palestinians said either no or nothing.

In return, the Israelis received little, and the Palestinians insisted on more of everything. Their rationale was that they needed further concessions to compensate for Israeli demands limiting the size and capability of Palestinian security forces. These restrictions, they said, would undermine the very feasibility of a sovereign Palestinian state. The Israelis argued that they needed these added protections because Israel could not count on Arabs to accept Israel's existence. They cited the Palestinians' rejection of a Jewish history in Israel and even any Jewish connection to the Temple Mount in the heart of Jerusalem. For good measure, the Palestinians still refuse to recognize Israel as a "Jewish state." Nor do the Palestinians acknowledge that when Israel departed Gaza in 2005, it uprooted 9,000 Israeli settlers. In return, Israel got rockets and a terrorist enclave run by Hamas.

At each step in this tortuous negotiating process, the United States has pushed and pulled Israel toward concessions, but received little or no credit from the Arab side. Sometimes this pressure has been public, as in President Barack Obama's recent scolding of Israel over its West Bank settlements, but more often it has been private. Yet Arabs have not wanted to credit Washington's role as a peacemaker because they think the United States is capable of exerting even more pressure on Israel. Nonetheless, the American role has been real and substantial.

Israel has only made this world of misperceptions worse. It has explained its concessions badly, if at all. Consider, for example, how Israeli governments refuse to tout their history of concessions on the West Bank for fear these would be taken as starting points in ongoing negotiations. Apparently, Israelis would rather look guilty than weak.

Israelis certainly deserve criticism for continuing their West Bank settlements. But they deserve credit for their concrete efforts to make peace. And so does the United States. Yet the myths prevail, and dangerously so.

Leslie H. Gelb is president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, a former senior U.S. government official, and a former columnist for the New York Times.

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James K. Galbraith
ACTUALLY, THE RETIREMENT AGE IS TOO HIGH

The most dangerous conventional wisdom in the world today is the idea that with an older population, people must work longer and retire with less.

This idea is being used to rationalize cuts in old-age benefits in numerous advanced countries -- most recently in France, and soon in the United States. The cuts are disguised as increases in the minimum retirement age or as increases in the age at which full pensions will be paid.

Such cuts have a perversely powerful logic: "We" are living longer. There are fewer workers to support each elderly person. Therefore "we" should work longer.

But in the first place, "we" are not living longer. Wealthier elderly are; the non-wealthy not so much. Raising the retirement age cuts benefits for those who can't wait to retire and who often won't live long. Meanwhile, richer people with soft jobs work on: For them, it's an easy call.

Second, many workers retire because they can't find jobs. They're unemployed -- or expect to become so. Extending the retirement age for them just means a longer job search, a futile waste of time and effort.

Third, we don't need the workers. Productivity gains and cheap imports mean that we can and do enjoy far more farm and factory goods than our forebears, with much less effort. Only a small fraction of today's workers make things. Our problem is finding worthwhile work for people to do, not finding workers to produce the goods we consume.

In the United States, the financial crisis has left the country with 11 million fewer jobs than Americans need now. No matter how aggressive the policy, we are not going to find 11 million new jobs soon. So common sense suggests we should make some decisions about who should have the first crack: older people, who have already worked three or four decades at hard jobs? Or younger people, many just out of school, with fresh skills and ambitions?

The answer is obvious. Older people who would like to retire and would do so if they could afford it should get some help. The right step is to reduce, not increase, the full-benefits retirement age. As a rough cut, why not enact a three-year window during which the age for receiving full Social Security benefits would drop to 62 -- providing a voluntary, one-time, grab-it-now bonus for leaving work? Let them go home! With a secure pension and medical care, they will be happier. Young people who need work will be happier. And there will also be more jobs. With pension security, older people will consume services until the end of their lives. They will become, each and every one, an employer.

A proposal like this could transform a miserable jobs picture into a tolerable one, at a single stroke.

James K. Galbraith is author of The Predator State: How Conservatives Abandoned the Free Market and Why Liberals Should Too.

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Carl Pope
THE RICH REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE POOR

We spend far too much time and energy worrying about the supposed global divide between north and south, rich country and poor country. It doesn't actually exist. The planet's real fault line is between elites and the middle class in some countries, and the bottom of the pyramid, everywhere.

The world's four richest citizens -- Carlos Slim, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Mukesh Ambani -- have more in common with each other than they do with the bottom strata of their respective countries. Yes, they do handle their wealth differently. Gates and Buffett are giving most of it away, Ambani just built the world's most expensive house, and Slim is somewhere in the middle. But all four can count on their home governments to take care of their needs first. Preserving that kind of social hierarchy is an unwritten assumption in deciding which solutions to the world's problems arrive on the table and which do not.

Many have observed that countries whose boundaries happen to include large deposits of oil, diamonds, tropical timber, or some other valuable commodity tend to have miserable populations that suffer from poverty and violence -- the "resource curse." But we politely overlook the reality that for every resource-cursed country, there is a resource-blessed kleptocracy. With rare exceptions like Sudan, those who pillage their countries' wealth are accepted into the top ends of global society. They come to Davos, stay at the Four Seasons, bank in Switzerland. The oil oligarchs of the Persian Gulf are welcomed as investors in News Corporation and American banks, even when they hold views that might otherwise put them on a U.S. terrorism watch list.

India, justifiably, comes to global climate negotiations to argue that it has hundreds of thousands of villages with no access at all to electricity and that the United States and Europe cannot reasonably say, "Well, given the climate crisis, those villages are just going to remain in the dark." That reality gets a lot of attention. But the other reality is that India devotes very little of its energy investment to getting light for those villages, while it invests considerably more in keeping Ambani's streetlights on. India is not exceptional. In fact, the poor pay 20 percent of the world's lighting bill -- and get only 0.1 percent of the world's lighting services in exchange. Seventy-five years after Franklin D. Roosevelt demonstrated that reliable access to credit was the key to electrifying rural households, the United States still has a shameful number of off-grid communities on Native American reservations.

We write and talk glibly about the increasing emphasis in our economies on "knowledge," but rarely focus on the reality that a knowledge-based society makes it far easier for much of the workforce to be left behind. Ugandan coffee farmers receive only 2.5 percent of the British retail price and 4.5 percent of the U.S. retail price for their coffee. A few cents added to a cup of coffee or a basket of strawberries would cover the costs of doubling or tripling the wages of peasant farmers. But if we raised prices in today's world economy, the increases would be absorbed not by the farmers but by marketing, wholesaling, and retailing markups.

The knowledge workers and investors who benefit from this global supply chain have far more in common with each other than they do with the peasant coffee growers who supply their corner Starbucks. Enriching them would mean lowering the status and wealth of bankers, distributors, and advertisers -- and they've got all the leverage.

Together, Slim, Gates, Buffett, and Ambani control more wealth than the world's poorest 57 countries. The danger is that while we have a global economy that knows how to concentrate money and power in an ever smaller set of hands, we have no robust mechanism to alert us to the injustice, dangers, and instability that come along with this package. Someday, to our peril, the poor will find their own way to remind us.

Carl Pope is chairman of the Sierra Club.

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Immanuel Wallerstein
THE GLOBAL ECONOMY WON'T RECOVER, NOW OR EVER

Virtually everyone everywhere-economists, politicians, pundits -- agrees that the world has been in some kind of economic trouble since at least 2008. And virtually everyone seems to believe that in the next few years the world will somehow "recover" from these difficulties. After all, upturns always occur after downturns. The remedies recommended vary considerably, but the idea that the system shall continue in its essential features is a deeply rooted faith.

But it is wrong. All systems have lives. When their processes move too far from equilibrium, they fluctuate chaotically and bifurcate. Our existing system, what I call a capitalist world-economy, has been in existence for some 500 years and has for at least a century encompassed the entire globe. It has functioned remarkably well. But like all systems, it has moved steadily further and further from equilibrium. For a while now, it has moved too far from equilibrium, such that it is today in structural crisis.

The problem is that the basic costs of all production have risen remarkably. There are the personnel expenses of all kinds -- for unskilled workers, for cadres, for top-level management. There are the costs incurred as producers pass on the costs of their production to the rest of us -- for detoxification, for renewal of resources, for infrastructure. And the democratization of the world has led to demands for more and more education, more and more health provisions, and more and more guarantees of lifetime income. To meet these demands, there has been a significant increase in taxation of all kinds. Together, these costs have risen beyond the point that permits serious capital accumulation. Why not then simply raise prices? Because there are limits beyond which one cannot push their level. It is called the elasticity of demand. The result is a growing profit squeeze, which is reaching a point where the game is not worth the candle.

What we are witnessing as a result is chaotic fluctuations of all kinds -- economic, political, sociocultural. These fluctuations cannot easily be controlled by public policy. The result is ever greater uncertainty about all kinds of short-term decision-making, as well as frantic realignments of every variety. Doubt feeds on itself as we search for ways out of the menacing uncertainty posed by terrorism, climate change, pandemics, and nuclear proliferation.

The only sure thing is that the present system cannot continue. The fundamental political struggle is over what kind of system will replace capitalism, not whether it should survive. The choice is between a new system that replicates some of the present system's essential features of hierarchy and polarization and one that is relatively democratic and egalitarian.

The extraordinary expansion of the world-economy in the postwar years (more or less 1945 to 1970) has been followed by a long period of economic stagnation in which the basic source of gain has been rank speculation sustained by successive indebtednesses. The latest financial crisis didn't bring down this system; it merely exposed it as hollow. Our recent "difficulties" are merely the next-to-last bubble in a process of boom and bust the world-system has been undergoing since around 1970. The last bubble will be state indebtednesses, including in the so-called emerging economies, leading to bankruptcies.

Most people do not recognize -- or refuse to recognize -- these realities. It is wrenching to accept that the historical system in which we are living is in structural crisis and will not survive.

Meanwhile, the system proceeds by its accepted rules. We meet at G-20 sessions and seek a futile consensus. We speculate on the markets. We "develop" our economies in whatever way we can. All this activity simply accentuates the structural crisis. The real action, the struggle over what new system will be created, is elsewhere.

Immanuel Wallerstein is a senior research scholar at Yale University.

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Nina Hachigian
SOVEREIGNTY IS FAR FROM DEAD

In his latest book, How Barack Obama Is Endangering Our National Sovereignty, John Bolton lays out what has become a consensus view on the American right. Those who argue that the United States must engage with international organizations to address global problems, he argues, are really saying we should "cede some of our sovereignty to institutions that other nations will also influence." And that, warns this U.N.-bashing former Bush administration ambassador to the United Nations, "is unquestionably a formula for reducing U.S. autonomy and reducing our control over government."

One wonders just where Ambassador Bolton has been for the past 362 years. Here's the truth: The United States regularly contravenes the 17th-century view of countries as autonomous entities, free of outside interference, and instead works with other countries to bring opportunity and greater safety to Americans. Asserting independence remains a preoccupation of some U.S. politicians-not to mention authoritarian leaders around the world. But their brittle interpretation of sovereignty is an old-fashioned, and even dangerous, notion in world affairs.

Stephen D. Krasner, a former top State Department official, argues that from the very beginning, this absolutist definition of sovereignty, which dates back to the 1648 Peace of Westphalia, has been, at best, "organized hypocrisy." After all, simply mailing a letter abroad requires countries to follow a common set of postal rules that no single one of them controls.

But globalization has increased the pace of sovereignty's erosion. Today, the United States lets external actors affect its internal decisions all the time; there are simply too many benefits to be gained in return for agreeing to a common set of trade rules so that, for example, Americans can profit from exporting farm machinery and eat bananas year-round. To settle disputes that could flare into costly trade wars, the United States submits to arbitration under the World Trade Organization. The likelihood of a nuclear accident or terrorist incident has gone down thanks to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which requires the United States and the other 188 signatories to allow inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency at their nuclear facilities.

Nevertheless, Bolton and others continue to make hay of "permission slips," pillory the international organizations that carry America's water far more often than not, and warn of dire consequences from just about any treaty that requires U.S. compliance, such as the New start nuclear-arms deal between the United States and Russia or the Law of the Sea Treaty. They imply, absurdly, that a little sovereignty offered up here and there, and soon the French will be drafting U.S. zoning regulations.

The real problem is not that norms of sovereignty are changing in the United States, but that they are not changing fast enough elsewhere. China, for example, clings to a very traditional, absolutist view that the U.S. right might appreciate. While Beijing has been the No. 1 beneficiary of globalization's international rules and treaties, it often demands at the same time that the world mind its own business. Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to jailed dissident Liu Xiaobo, a Chinese Foreign Ministry official insisted, was "a violation of China's judicial sovereignty." A major sticking point in climate-change negotiations has been China's refusal to allow international inspectors to verify reductions in its carbon dioxide emissions, and the head of its delegation at the 2009 Copenhagen climate-change summit explicitly invoked sovereignty to explain that stance. Chinese leaders have said the value of the yuan is a sovereign issue for Beijing-even though other countries, notably the United States, suffer from its artificially low level.

Despite the need for countries to be more flexible with their sovereignty, the nation-state is alive and well. Its authority to make decisions for the benefit of its people is unassailable. National governments retain the right to control their borders and govern as they wish-so long as they don't commit mass atrocities. States are still the main actors in international affairs, albeit under guidelines that they do not fully control individually.

And that's OK. The United States has to be the role model for a pragmatic, progressive view of sovereignty. If Americans cling to outmoded notions of national autonomy, they will be leading themselves, and the world, down a path of emboldened threats, stifled cooperation, and missed opportunities.

Nina Hachigian is a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress and co-author of The Next American Century: How the U.S. Can Thrive as Other Powers Rise.

Morton H. Halperin
DEMOCRACY IS STILL WORTH FIGHTING FOR

As the United States struggles to wind down two wars and recover from a humbling financial crisis, realism is enjoying a renaissance. Afghanistan and Iraq bear scant resemblance to the democracies we were promised. The Treasury is broke. And America has a president, Barack Obama, who once compared his foreign-policy philosophy to the realism of theologian Reinhold Niebuhr: "There's serious evil in the world, and hardship and pain," Obama said during his 2008 campaign. "And we should be humble and modest in our belief we can eliminate those things."

But one can take such words of wisdom to the extreme-as realists like former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and writer Robert Kaplan sometimes do, arguing that the United States can't afford the risks inherent in supporting democracy and human rights around the world. Others, such as cultural historian Jacques Barzun, go even further, saying that America can't export democracy at all, "because it is not an ideology but a wayward historical development." Taken too far, such realist absolutism can be just as dangerous, and wrong, as neoconservative hubris.

For there is one thing the neocons get right: As I argue in The Democracy Advantage, democratic governments are more likely than autocratic regimes to engage in conduct that advances U.S. interests and avoids situations that pose a threat to peace and security. Democratic states are more likely to develop and to avoid famines and economic collapse. They are also less likely to become failed states or suffer a civil war. Democratic states are also more likely to cooperate in dealing with security issues, such as terrorism and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

As the bloody aftermath of the Iraq invasion painfully shows, democracy cannot be imposed from the outside by force or coercion. It must come from the people of a nation working to get on the path of democracy and then adopting the policies necessary to remain on that path. But we should be careful about overlearning the lessons of Iraq. In fact, the outside world can make an enormous difference in whether such efforts succeed. There are numerous examples-starting with Spain and Portugal and spreading to Eastern Europe, Latin America, and Asia-in which the struggle to establish democracy and advance human rights received critical support from multilateral bodies, including the United Nations, as well as from regional organizations, democratic governments, and private groups. It is very much in America's interest to provide such assistance now to new democracies, such as Indonesia, Liberia, and Nepal, and to stand with those advocating democracy in countries such as Belarus, Burma, and China.

It will still be true that the United States will sometimes need to work with a nondemocratic regime to secure an immediate objective, such as use of a military base to support the U.S. mission in Afghanistan, or in the case of Russia, to sign an arms-control treaty. None of that, however, should come at the expense of speaking out in support of those struggling for their rights. Nor should we doubt that America would be more secure if they succeed.

Morton H. Halperin is senior advisor to the Open Society Institute and co-author of The Democracy Advantage.

Stephen Sestanovich
SOMETIMES, THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM IS RIGHT

The old battle between "conventional wisdom" and its debunkers isn't what it used to be. When liberal economist John Kenneth Galbraith started using the term in the 1950s, his targets were not just any widely held wrong opinions, but those that were the product of inertia and convenience. Conventional wisdom, Galbraith thought, reinforced complacency. It enabled us to "avoid awkward effort or unwelcome dislocation of life," he wrote in The Affluent Society.

Since then, of course, we've all become debunkers. (Just google the term "conventional wisdom watch" -- virtually everyone is on alert for the stuff.) But something has happened to the mainstream ideas that need to be shaken up. Today's conventional wisdom isn't complacent. Its hair is on fire. It wants us to see that climate change threatens all humanity, that the United States is in decline, that we're all going to have to work harder and longer in the future, that China is going to rule the world -- unless perhaps a nuclear-armed Iran gets there first.

The debunking impulse has also changed. Far from trying to rouse us from slumber, its role is now to offer us a cup of warm milk before bed. If you doubt this, just dip into the debate about some important element of contemporary conventional wisdom, like the idea that America's global dominance is eroding. This may seem so obvious as barely to require discussion. Yet some of our best, most independent-minded commentators on international politics, scholars and practitioners alike, are saying that your eyes deceive you: America's decline is definitely not inevitable, and might not be happening at all.

These commentators acknowledge, of course, that preventing decline will oblige Americans to put their economic house in order and repair the damage done to their country's image worldwide -- all while preserving its global military edge and managing its alliances better than any president has done in the last 20 years. (And that's just for starters!) But too often these little details are in the fine print. The heart of the debunking message -- and what most readers carry away from it -- is reassurance. America will be No. 1 for decades to come.

You see the same pattern in debates on other issues, and it doesn't matter whether the left or the right holds the high ground. The earlier consensus on Afghanistan has begun to break up, for example. But it's still probably conventional wisdom, at least in Washington, to favor continuing the war, given the damage that retreat would do to U.S. interests across the Middle East and South Asia. The debunkers, by contrast, reassure us that withdrawal won't be so bad. If, as they now seem to have decided, defeat in Vietnam was no big deal, why should Afghanistan be any different?

Conventional wisdom is rarely good at explaining itself, least of all when its message is that the United States faces one big challenge after another and that they can't be successfully addressed without "unwelcome dislocation of life." The debunkers may well be right that America can avoid decline, but only by dint of gigantic effort. They might also be right that President Barack Obama or his successor can find ways to limit the damage of withdrawal from Afghanistan, but doing so will surely require more resources, focus, and commitment than the debunkers foresee. And that holds for other issues, whether it's coping with a nuclear Iran, the economic crisis, or climate change.

The most dangerous idea Americans face these days is that they can do less (or do nothing) and still get by. On this question, the conventional wisdom -- in all its hair-on-fire banality -- is absolutely right.

Stephen Sestanovich is a professor at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs and a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.

 

JOHN MILTON XIV

9:16 AM ET

January 3, 2011

Thank you FP

Not that I expect anyone to have noticed, but I have been "pushing" people towards the work of Immanuel Wallerstein on these pages for a little while now. I and others have also been doing this in other spheres, forums and walks of life.

(I am an Australian and a member of the ALP)

I consider his work to contain a series of warnings of very great urgency.

His work also contains within it the seeds of a very great Hope and vision for the post-capitalist world that we are all (consciously or otherwise) engaged in the construction of, now and into the foreseeable future.

Thank you FP for publishing his essay.

 

MOM IN OMAHA

11:59 AM ET

January 3, 2011

US Press seems reluctant

Thanks for giving us Assange. Sadly, the US press is not going mainstream with much of the news we should know. For instance, Obama admin. telling Spain not to charge Bush cronies with torture. Our presidency is imperial now and not subject to the laws. and the growing TSA is a constant concern for those who are awake to govt power gone astray

 

JBHIKER

1:18 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Absurd is the Word

It is interesting that there are literally thousands of these re-hashed gotcha-articles on "(un)conventional wisdom" yet not a single attempt at describing the real cost of this reactive maintenance of Americanism. Just once I would like to see some real journalism. Can you do some research? Can't you lay out the real costs in a way that demonstrates the absolute absurdity of it all? I'm not holding my breath awaiting it! The more of these skimmed & copied articles I see, the more convinced I am that the press is simply hoping for the next disaster.

 

ONCEPROUDAMERICAN

9:14 PM ET

January 13, 2011

The press is now only an echo chamber for government rhetoric

I agree with your assessment.

The US no longer has a free or impartial press, they are now simply mouthpieces for the government and the oligarchy that owns it.

THAT'S WHY THE US fEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO TAKE CONTROL OVER THE INTERNET & CABLE TV!

Soon, if the American people don't WAKE-UP, we will elect our own 'Hitler' if this trend continues.

 

MOM IN OMAHA

11:53 AM ET

January 3, 2011

Security on Airlines

El Al is recognized for security. If the carriers, United, Delta, Swiss Air, controlled security regarding their fliers, we would pay attention to which airlines were safest which means they would all be competing to maintain the best record.
Tiffany's does not expect NYC cops to protect their merchandise and has very subtle security.
Airlines would hire the best in background validation before the flier got to the airport. Only last minute or unconfirmed fliers would be subject to search. Most airlines would set up iris scan or other devices for frequent fliers or pilots & crew. The carriers stand to lose not only an aircraft and crew, but also the trust of the public if one of theirs goes down.
Govt seems always to be preparing for the LAST attack not the next one.
The TSA has all the budding future of a federal police force much as the Gestapo in Germany did. Not a promising future. there is a reason our founders left law enforcement out of the Constitution. Federal police never works out well for citizens.

 

TWALL10107

1:10 PM ET

January 7, 2011

Privatization, RIP

Mom, your fantasy about the efficacy of privatization died in Iraq. That's where Paul Bremer led the army of fundamentalist True Believers in their short-lived, disastrous crusade to privatize Iraqi resources, the Iraqi economy and Iraqi security. The result of that campaign (near-civil war in Iraq and the flight of millions of Iraqis from the terror of their newly "liberated" land) should have been George Bush's "greatest regret"; instead, he has written that his greatest regret is his failure to sell privatization of Social Security to the American people. You advocate privatization of our national security based on the model of a jewelry store? Thanks for the laugh.
Oh, and by the way it was the management of the various private US airlines which opposed such El Al-style security measures as reinforced cockpit doors (think of the expense!) and the presence of undercover air marshalls before 9/11. Focused on profit and revenue they lobbied Congress and conducted a PR campaign of smears against the Federal air marshall program depicting the air marshalls as freeloaders guzzling First Class champagne and gorging on First Class steaks up in the front of the cabin (where the cockpit is, you know?)

 

GREGORY OF NAZIANZUS

4:55 AM ET

January 12, 2011

Someone has been watching too

Someone has been watching too many movies.

 

STERNBERG

9:48 PM ET

January 20, 2011

Mom in Omaha

Your opinion piece started out well until you descended into half truths, innuendo, finger pointing and intnetional deciet.
If you have a real issue, you can support it with the real truth.

 

ABUSTRYKER

5:48 PM ET

January 3, 2011

So... Gelb

Isn't Leslie Gelb's article THE definition of conventional wisdom in the U.S. (and in the beltway to be specific)? Of course, truth be told, conventional wisdom need neither be true nor wise... simply conventional

 

SAVANAROLA

8:40 PM ET

January 19, 2011

So....Gelb

You nailed it, ABUSTRYKER. Either the work of a supreme cynic, or someone thoroughly steeped in the twisted worldview that may only view Israelis as a victims.

 

JOHN MILTON XIV

6:15 PM ET

January 3, 2011

Dear FP, Please delete my

Dear FP,

Please delete my (mis)post of 11:05 AM ET

January 3, 2011. It was a very strange mistake on the part of my laptop.

Apologies for odd computer behavior....

 

ROBYNSTORER

8:00 AM ET

January 4, 2011

The man-made climate change - a Global Con Trick

I was disappointed not to see any ‘unconventional wisdom’ article addressing the global con of ‘man-made’ climate change. Why has man-made climate change become such ‘accepted dogma’. Is this, as Prof Ian Plimer claims, environmental fundamentalism? The religion that “the real problem with the world is your fault, but do not worry because we can ‘fix it’ ”, provided of course you pay additional taxes and divert huge resources to solve a problem which many scientists question the exists ? Is this the environmental fundamentalist equivalent of the irrefutable science of a ‘flat earth’ ? Or is ‘sound bite science’, propagated by the media, self–seeking politicians and a few Hollywood actors (lacking any sound or otherwise knowledge of earth sciences). When are we going to get past this period of poor science and misallocation of resources on a global scale, so that we can deal with some real problems / issues / challenges ? rather than tilting at wind mills and building yet more environmentally suspect wind farms?

 

DOUGALDER

4:10 PM ET

January 4, 2011

‘unconventional wisdom’

Your ‘unconventional wisdom’ is not wisdom but simple untruths. Amongst climatologists - the only ones in this debate that know wtf they are talking about - there is no dispute about whether global climate change is (1) happening, and (2) that it is entirely due to man made causes . Pilmer is a mining geologist not a climatologist and his arguments have been thoroughly debunked too many times to count. Hope Exxon etc are paying you well.

 

PABLO_NC

2:29 PM ET

January 4, 2011

Sweeping and uninformed commentary

Really Anne Applebaum? I'd expect more from someone in your position:

"DHS serves only one clear purpose: to provide unimaginable bonanzas for favored congressional districts around the United States.." What about the thousands and border patrol and customs agents working to keep Americans safe from everything from drugs to disease-ridden agricultural imports? What about the immigration agents who investigate drug trafficking organizations and transnational gangs, and unscrupulous employers who prey on immigrant workers? What about the Coast Guard that patrols our ports and coastlines, and responds to save the lives of Americans in trouble at sea? What about FEMA, yes FEMA, and the emergency support they provide during and after disasters? What about the Secret Service, or the US Fire Administration?

You cite homeland security grants, which account for a portion of FEMA's budget, which is a portion of the overall DHS budget. And while homeland security might not have been the most appropriate name to choose to capture the department's mission to protect Americans from ALL hazards, these hazards do touch all Americans - even those in Wisconsin.

Your commentary on TSA misconstrues where TSA fits into the antiterrorism picture. TSA is just one layer of the effort, and just because it's the one layer that the public confronts, people perceive it to be all that's going on to protect Americans. That's a false assumption, and perhaps the government should do a better job of informing the public of all the efforts that aren't as visable, but commentary like this just makes the misconception worse.

 

BILL HARSHAW

2:30 PM ET

January 4, 2011

China's Rising Power

Dan's article caused me to remember the memes of the 1950's, when Whittaker Chambers notoriously thought he had joined the losing side when he left the Communist Party, there were recurrent alarms over bomber gaps and missile gaps, the graphs of tons of steel and coal produced showed the USSR on a path to outproduce the U.S., and the West was on the wrong side of the anit-colonialism sweeping the world.

 

JOHN MILTON XIV

5:57 PM ET

January 4, 2011

Utopistics: Historical Choices for the 21st Century

I just noticed that Immanuel Wallerstein was possibly too modest (??) to mention the titles of any his books in his short bio. Or perhaps this evinces a later dissatisfaction with them. (??)

In any case, a much lesser mind and being -ie. me - highly recommends that all should read his remarkably erudite, elegant and visionary
"Utopistics: Historical Choices for the 21st Century"

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

12:15 PM ET

January 5, 2011

We Have Limits

The French settlers in Quebec did not expand in spite of the Canadian geographical vastness. The British pilgrims who arrived in New England had, in the vast expanse of American land, a chance for feeling justified in their religious faith.
When they came to the Pacific coast, they only had to cross the ocean to get to China. Would their descendants have any place to go when they come to the rim of the world? The world is not boundless; it has limits.
Economics is a dismal science because it deals with scarcity, but, as Prof. Paul Samuelson said, there is optimism in American economics as it refuses to see Malthusian limits. American liberalism with its attendant free trade theory would not bloomed as beautifully as it has but for the American God-blessed natural resourcefulness.
I am a Japanese but I am not taking delight in the supposed or imagined decline of American influence. The Japanese have benefitted a great deal from its contact with the West and North America.
Fair America, I weep to see You haste away so soon;
As yet the early-rising sun Has not attain'd his noon.
Stay, stay,
Until the hasting day has run But to the even-song.

Economics is the super-structure of capitalism and capitalism is the super-structure of a modern way of life.
I can agree to Prof. Wallerstein's diagnosis. It seems, however, that he has not presented a medical prescription yet. If he should suggest communism or something like that, I would go and see another doctor for treatment no matter how expensive it might be.
Unnan City, Japan

 

FROZENREBEL

1:18 PM ET

January 9, 2011

Thank You Mr. Moriyama

Thank you for your kind words about America. I recently read an article about the gutting of American industry. It was sad. Our relationship with Japan and China is interesting. When I was a child, things made in Japan were considered junk, mostly trinkets; but as an adult, I refused to buy American made cars because I considered the quality of Japanese automobiles to be relatively higher. Now I try to avoid Chinese made products because of their poor quality, and shop for American made to support local small business. Unlike the Japanese, who are innovative in their design, it appears to me that China only produces knock-offs. Our economists have been long saying that inflation is in check; but we have experienced an inflation of quality. In other words, the price may be flat, but the quality is down the tubes. This is the perspective of a self-described "financial idiot."

On another front, America must re-count its allies: Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Britain, Germany, Israel, others. Unfortunately, our fickle political system has undermined many, e.g. Israel, and continues to support our enemies, e.g. the late Yasser Arafat and his successors. There are enemies at home and abroad who pursue our defeat.

Although economics is a big factor in liberty and world affairs, the religious aspect is treated with disdain. I offer my perspective here: toknowawarrior.com

 

TIM FROM QC

5:28 PM ET

January 11, 2011

French settlers in Quebe

RE: The French settlers in Quebec did not expand in spite of the Canadian geographical vastness.

What do the names Baton Rouge, Louisiane and so many others, including all the French names of cities in Manitoba, Ontario etc ... indicate if not some expansion?

A good history book might be helpful.

Tim from QC

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

4:32 AM ET

January 13, 2011

The French Settlers in Quebec

Thanks, Tim
Alexis de Toxquiville said that in Democracy in America. He did not attribute it to ethnical but to cultural difference.

I looked up Quebec, Louisiana and Acadia in my encyclopedia(Encyclopedia International). I know this reading is far from enough. I will be glad to be better informed.

Gloria says that "from the start, the French(Quebec) colony was planned and managed by both state and church. "The fur trade provided a convenient opening both for exploration of the continent...extending to western Great Lakes and the length of the Mississippi River."

There were explorations along the Mississippi, but according to Gloria "Louisiana citizens reflect the history of the state's settlement. In the south are many descendants of the first French and Spanish settlers;" the Acadians came to Louisiana after being expelled from Canada; "Later immigrants from Europe have added people of Italian and Irish descent to the southern areas of the state. Northern Louisiana is peopled by descendants of English, Scottish, and Irish setters mainly, with some descendants of German and Hungarian settlers, who came later in the 19th century."

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

7:19 AM ET

January 14, 2011

Oops! Gloria.

My encyclopedia was Encyclopedia International, Glolier Incorporated.

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

1:08 PM ET

January 5, 2011

China's Rise Part One

China is rising and America and the West are declining relatively. But I do not agree to a straight linear projection of this trend.
China is trapped in an unprecedented situation which it has not encountered before. It is an unusual experience that it has not made in its history.
China did trade sporadically with distant lands like the East Coast of Africa, the Middle East and India. But it had basically remained an autarkical society until its contact with modern West. The Chinese leaders, who were always autocratic, took political, precautionary measures so that trade with foreign countries would not interfere in their political and social control. They were afraid of a rise of an autonomous merchant class, whether through domestic or through foreign business transactions, which would be rich, amass wealth and influence, intervene in politics and undermine their power. This picture is to be seen in Beijing.
China is no longer a self-subsiting and self-contained country. It is hugely dependent on the external world. The Chinese leaders are scared of this in spite of their bragging.

remaineba

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

1:34 PM ET

January 5, 2011

China's Rise Part Two

China traditionally had a tributary system. This was its security policy. The legal concept is alien to it of international society being composed of nations each of which is legally equal. It does not even prepare itself to the concept. It loves to be seen big; it knows how to stand big in the eyes of other nations. It has cultivated and developed the art for this for over two thousand years. When, for instance, the chairman of the central bank of China demanded that the dollar as the key international currency should be brought to an end, he did not intend anything immediately pratical or possible. He just wanted to make everybody impressed with 'grandeur of China' as Mao Zedong was dying even in his Great Leap Forward and Great Cultural Revolution to impress the whole world with greatness of China.

 

PEOTRE

2:20 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Pretext

Ann Applebaum, thank you for this interesting critique of DHS. Many Americans view terrorism as a Trojan horse for government to further consolidate its power over the citizenry, rather than any real threat to the country. With that in mind, increasing intelligence efforts might not be the best thing in lieu of a DHS. We must first be able to distinguish between a real terrorist threat and one created by the government. Generally, efforts at real investigation of terrorist events are lost in the hysteria, and what is left is an expanded boundary of power by federal agencies. Americans are beginning to catch on to this game, and quite honestly, I have found many anti-conspiratorialists switching sides in the debate recently, much to my amazement. We know the FBI conducts numerous sting operations, which are then publicized by the media as credible terrorist threats. All one needs to do, to change such a sting into a real event, is to, for example, provide real as opposed to fake explosives, as was done in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center. (See the New York Times for details on the government informant involved in that case.) Of course the public is confused, and probably angry. It is unorthodox to bring up these issues, but they must be sorted through instead of denying their reality. The driving force is, of course, an agressively expansive foreign policy that would in no wise be tolerated by a peace-loving country; thus the need to employ the terrorism card at every turn. Can we sort some of these issues out, or is it beyond the pale to bring them up? You are right about 9-11 being a terrible intelligence failure. It was a marvelous PR ploy to put all the blame on the "terrorists."

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

2:29 PM ET

January 5, 2011

China's Fall

I forgot to mention something in my first comment. I said economics is the super-structure of capitalism and capitalism is the super-structure of a modern way of life. Therefore, as I would like to add, what is challenged is not economics nor capitalsm but our modern way of life.
I would like to add another thing. It is about free trade. Free trade is not a universally good thing in the sense that it always brings everybody and every country and every sector of society an increased level of income.
It is an interesting concept of economics. It tells us who gets in a given situation what and how much of it at what cost. Whether it should be actually applied is a highly political question because there are almost always people who are going to lose.
Those who advocate are sure to have something to get. Those who are opposed are sure to lose something or all.
That applies to countries. I would wonder if the United States could afford to concentrate, in terms of international competiveness, on haute finance and money games, leaving a lot of citizens to live homeless on the streets.

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

3:05 PM ET

January 5, 2011

China's Fall

Not simply an economy's size but also it composition matters. Suppose here are countries A, B, C, D. Country A is like the United States. Country B earns all its money from the sale of wheat and rice; Country C from oil and natural gas; Country D from money paid by sight-seeing tourists from abroad. Suppose each country's economic size is the same. We cannot say each is as powerful as any of these. China is not definately an A-type country. If the renminbi is to be an international currency, China needs to win genuine and spontaneous trust and faith from other countries; its high-ranking officials must stop forgery of money and dubious transactions.
China has got a lot of benefit from international trade but it does not seem yet to be at all ready to keep this system in international cooperation. It will not be inconceivable that if China goes on growing in that manner, if not at that pace, it would be destroying its own nourishing system. What if many countries should decide to stop engaging in undiscriminatory trade though all would be hit? China's national power would drastically dwindle.

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

3:25 PM ET

January 5, 2011

The Free World Maintains Its Position

America and the West have lost some of their influence in world affairs. This is a good thing to welcome in a sense, because it means a lot of Asian and African countries are beginning to be economically imroving.
America and the West will never lose all power and influence that they have. America will remain the target of hated; it could aggravate that if it does not act circumspectly. America, on the other hand, will continue to receive strong support from freedom-lovers across nations. It will remain strong enough, even though it will never be able to democratize many parts of the world, to defend human rights and dignity in many parts. Unnan City, Japan

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

3:48 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Correction

'the target of hated' is not wrong. 'the target of hatred' is correct.

 

SEANL

5:46 PM ET

January 5, 2011

This article is stunningly superficial and arrogant

Why superficial?

Palestinians do not equal Egyptians. They are a different people. Your suggestions that concessions to a different nation (Egypt) somehow transfers to another nation (Palestine) because to you they are one in the same is frankly ignorant. It's like America doing something nice to England then expecting Germany to do something nice for America merely because the English and Germans are both Germanic peoples. It borders on racist what you are suggesting.

Why is it arrogant?

West Bank and East Jerusalem are overwhelming majority Arab, but because Olmert was so kind in your view to offer mere scraps of land from these territories the Palestinians should be grateful for it? Disgustingly arrogant.

 

SEANL

5:49 PM ET

January 5, 2011

Israel article is stunningly superficial and arrogant

Why superficial?

Palestinians do not equal Egyptians. They are a different people. Your suggestions that concessions to a different nation (Egypt) somehow transfers to another nation (Palestine) because to you they are one in the same is frankly ignorant. It's like America doing something nice to England then expecting Germany to do something nice for America merely because the English and Germans are both Germanic peoples. It borders on racist what you are suggesting.

Why is it arrogant?

West Bank and East Jerusalem are overwhelming majority Arab, but because Olmert was so kind in your view to offer mere scraps of land from these territories the Palestinians should be grateful for it? Disgustingly arrogant.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

1:09 PM ET

January 11, 2011

Please read the articles in the future...

IT is true that Egyptians and Palestinians are not one and the same. However, if you actually read the article you would realize that the author was talking about how ISRAEL is obviously willing to give up land for peace.

What it is like is if America gave up a 1/3 of their land for peace with the Native Americans, then lets say Mexico still wanted their land back after the Mexican American War, then it shows that the United States would be willing to give it up in order to achieve peace. Please read the articles instead of picking up words here and there.

East Jerusalem is not overwhelmingly Arab because most Israelis do not view an East Jerusalem as a real entity. They see Jerusalem as a whole, with an Arab section just like the old city. And in regards to that Jerusalem is a Jewish majority.

And it is not arrogant because a Zionist sir. The real arrogance is on your part because you seem to above it all to even read and comprehend the article. This is why dialogue with the likes of you would never work. You never listen, only hear it in order to twist it into a way you can twist and pervert the article.

I applaud FP for the article on Israel and not giving in to "conventional wisdom"

 

PEOTRE

9:04 AM ET

January 12, 2011

Giving up land

"What it is like is if America gave up a 1/3 of their land for peace with the Native Americans, then lets say Mexico still wanted their land back after the Mexican American War, then it shows that the United States would be willing to give it up in order to achieve peace."

These are all good ideas, and I am surprised you mentioned them. Land is currently apportioned based on force, and not on what best benefits the people living there. Land should belong, not to current claimants, but to those who will best administer the land for the benefit of all. It should be no problem for people to give up "land." Perhaps it will be better administered by others. Thank you for your brilliant suggestion.

 

GRANT

8:49 PM ET

January 5, 2011

All this just goes to show

All this just goes to show that both the masses and the elites can be completely wrong.

 

PENNYFREDERICK

12:32 AM ET

January 6, 2011

AND CHINA ISN'T BEATING THE U.S

Daniel W. Drezner
…AND CHINA ISN'T BEATING THE U.S.

All I can say is THIS ARTICLE IS ABSOLUTELY ABSERD AND IN DIRECT OPPOSITION TO THE ARTICLE HERE ON US DECLINE. IT'S STUPID FOR YOU TO BE PRESENTING THESE TWO ARTICLES EITHER OR FOR OR AGAINST. WHICH IS IT? I AGREE THAT THE ARTICLE THAT DEPICTS OUR CHALLENGES IS A MORE BELIEVABLE SCENARIO.

 

GRANT

2:53 AM ET

January 6, 2011

In most circumstances stating

In most circumstances stating that an article is "ABSOLUTELY ABSERD" is not part of a rational argument but rather close to an ad hominem attack.

Following that you seem to have completely missed that Drezner didn't write an article on American decline. If you are referring to the one I suspect you are from the Jan/Feb 2011 issue then you are actually referring to Gideon Rachman. This site apparently follows a policy of allowing different people to make opposing arguments so that the readers can see both sides of a debate. Perhaps you should investigate this novel idea sometime so you won't make the same mistake about identity twice.

Lastly you didn't actually put forth any reasons for why the article predicting American decline is the more well reasoned one and instead performed the internet equivalent of getting drunk before shouting at the top of your lungs.

 

SIRAJUL ISLAM

5:44 AM ET

January 6, 2011

The unconventional wisdoms must be stirring

I admire Foreign Policy for publishing these essays. Is the American press is going mainstream with much of the news we should know as readers? Some says that the US press is not going with a lot of news that people ought to know. I beg to differ. Yes, there are signs that something is going to change.

Well, I beg to differ with some story-lines as well but I admire the quality of the posts. For example: One story rightly said that China has taken a lot of benefit from international trade but it does not seem yet to be at all ready to keep this system in international cooperation. It will not be inconceivable that if China goes on growing in that manner, if not at that pace, it would be foiling its own broth.

The concept of economics was interesting as well. It tells us who gets in a given situation what and how much of it at what cost. Whether it should be actually applied is a highly political question because there are almost always people who are going to lose. Ann Applebaum was interesting also, and was right about 911 being a terrible intelligence failure that I’ve the impression that many Americans view so. Many can agree to Prof. Wallerstein's analysis too if not the answers. Prof. Paul Samuelson rightly said there is optimism in American economics as it refuses to see Malthusian limits. I think American liberalism with its free trade theory would not flourish as beautifully as it has but for it natural bounty. Lastly, I should say Pilmer’s arguments may not the unconventional.

A good read. Kudos to FP.

 

JOHN MILTON XIV

9:25 PM ET

January 6, 2011

To YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

If I may be so presumptous "Jaeykay" and I (John Milton XIV) are having an exchange in the comments section under "Think Again, America's Decline".

Whilst I have the inclination to reply and answer to your very interesting and perceptive remarks, I'm afraid I simply don't have the time at the moment..

In any case, perhaps we would simply be going over the same ground which I think that "Jaekey" and I have been over.

I just very quickly add or repeat what I stated above.

Read Immanuel Wallerstein's work and you may find the answer to your own questions concerning the "futuristic" prescriptions which we all engaged in the construction of ,and the debate about.

 

JOHN MILTON XIV

9:35 PM ET

January 6, 2011

Dear Foreign Policy.

Dear Foreign Policy,

As YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA has also (somewhat angrily) sort of requested, may I please be so presumptuous as to request that you commission a follow up piece from Immanuel Wallerstein??

That is to say, so that he may be allowed to present his own views on what may lie ahead for all of us in the (uncertain) future of the post-Capitalist world.

(Eg. Wallerstein has a fascinating but tantalising discussion of Weberian “substantive rationality” in his work as an idea which guide us.)

Whether my request is met with a yay or nay, I thank you very much for your excellent and always stimulating publication and wish send my congratulations and best regards.

 

DRAWLR

10:34 AM ET

January 7, 2011

Democracy worth fighting for?

The United States government has a history of overthrowing unfriendly governments, including democracies, and backing tyrannies that scratch its back. Besides, democracy, as a form of government, was abhorred by the Founders and rejected as a form of mobocracy. I wish people like Mr. Halperin would stop using the term as if it described some sort of ideal form of government. A lot of people have been murdered by governments with the word "democratic" in their title. The United States is supposed to be a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

“Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her [the United States’] heart, her benedictions, and her prayers be. But she does not go abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. … She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force. … She might become the dictatress of the world. She would no longer be the ruler of her own spirit.” – Secretary of State John Quincy Adams, 1821

 

HARRYOBRIAN

10:36 AM ET

January 7, 2011

Excellent...

Finally someone authoring the truth, now if we can just get the for-hire politicians to realize it.

 

MARIK7

1:06 PM ET

January 7, 2011

Airport searches

As I am an American citizen who engages in no criminal activities, the main result of airport searches is, for me, resentment and anger at the government that is pretending to protect others from me.

So, those searches, at least in my case, are actually counter-productive. First, I feel no safer because I (or the housewife behind me in line) have been searched. and second, I feel animosity to my government for ignoring the 4th Amendment and demonstrating that it is not my friend.

 

USA

1:22 PM ET

January 7, 2011

TSA Abuses

TSA has gone too far in abridging our constitutional rights to travel and be free from unreasonable searches. It is just as important to stand up for the Fourth Amendment as it is for the First Amendment! If the American people don't take a stand we will lose more and more of our freedom and could find ourselves on the road to tyranny.

Sadly Congress at best seems to give lip service and at its worst seems to be in the grip of lobbyists and special interests. It is up to citizens to call their Congressmen and let them know it is time to start representing us and to ask them to start standing up for the public and protecting us from these TSA abuses.

Please don't alienate the hardworking citizens who pay their taxes and support this economy. Our freedom is precious and we want to protect it.

 

BLUESMAN4UONLY

2:50 PM ET

January 7, 2011

homeland security

We as a country can't even protect out own president so homeland security is just another police force with an agenda not yet disclosed. Want to stop terriost? Here's how:

Keep our nose out of their business....let them live like they want to and let's worry about our own. The world doesn't need a one world government and we're the bully trying to inforce it. How many jobs could we create here in America if we removed ourselves from the wars world wide and cut out all of these government agencies that have proved they offer no solution to the problems we face. Repeal the NAFTA agreement because it's responsable for most of our job losses leading up to the point that we're now totally dependent on other countries for our needs. Do away with the dictatorship of the world bankers known as "The Federal Reserve"

 

SNAPPER

2:53 PM ET

January 7, 2011

Homeland security

Spent the night before an early holiday flight at an upscale hotel. And the bellhop (twice) arrived in the lobby with luggage that wasn't accompanied by the owner-passengers. So maybe we need to go back to square one 'cause this system with naked scanners and body gropers is a farce.

 

NATHANB131

4:37 PM ET

January 7, 2011

Stopped reading after the 1st article

Was excited to learn some new insights and be offered some new perspectives with this one.... So it starts with why the world economy can't keep growing....by offering as fact many misconceptions (or at least debatable claims).

The biggest of which is that the world population will continue unbounded growth. Oh I guess he just said 9 billion people at 2040, after which it is predicted to decline. http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/10/11/think_again_global_aging?page=full But unbounded growth is implied by the omission, which smells like alarmism.

Also cited is the increased energy required to dig up new energy. Left out is the utility gained from each unit of energy surely being magnitudes greater than it used to be. I'm pretty sure Model-T's didn't get 30 miles per gallon and the carbon footprint of doing business via email is probably a little better than the pony express.

Let's not forget the continuously upward productivity of the average world worker per each bit of sweat and gallon of gas used. Is the assumption here is that per capita output is assumed to remain flat?

Call me a blind optimist, but I believe innovation will continue to move us forward. Rare earth mineral getting too expensive? Different technologies will emerge that don't need them, it's already happening. Also looms is the assumption that consumption per capita will rise with population. Really? http://peakoil.com/consumption/u-s-gasoline-demand-begins-long-decline/ This article tells me that progress and growth eventually lead to more energy efficiency per capita as people can afford greener tech.

I'm excited for our world because of the innovation that will undoubtedly continue. I'm thankful to be born an American and I know we need to change a lot of our wasteful ways. But I truly believe that the rest of the world can become as well off as we are, and that through human ingenuity, there will be enough to go around at roughly our current us standard of living. Our biggest threat as a society would be to slow down growth and innovation in order to make everyone more equal out of fear of sustainability.

Because in 2040, according to your own stats, when I'm old and grey in a nursing home, there won't be many youngsters around to help me enjoy my sunset years. I'm betting on solar-powered robots to fill in just fine. ;-)

"I don't fear computers, I fear the lack of them" -Asimov

 

PHILIP HENIKA

10:21 PM ET

January 7, 2011

Global Peacebuilding Initiative and Human Rights

Globalization has replaced the isolation of the Cold War and, of course, with globalization, has arrived an unbridled opportunism: an opportunism that has grown large numbers of terrorists and terrorist wannabes; human-exacerbated climate change and its projected consequences; caveats that the projected demand for oil had exceeded the ability to supply it i.e. the so-called peak oil hypothesis; pandemics based on new or variations of known diseases that spread with human help and for which the preparation for the prevention of their spread is inadequate and the World Wide Web which has grown Wikileaks - not just a few but thousands. I am baffled by the lack of attention paid to the sheer numbers - thousands of terrorists and terrorist wannabes, thousands of Wikileaks, natural disasters which kill and displace thousands, thousands of combatant and noncombatant deaths and children orpaned due to war and, when we talk about the economy - billions in money waste. And what about these "system-wide" failures e.g. the 9/11 security breach and the BP oil disaster. Are "system-wide" failures with no accountability and acceptable loses the future? What are the precedents and practices for the solution to these problems?

I have seen two approaches applied. In the first, nations convene for a convention on a single issue e.g. the UN Convention on Climate Change and, in the second, a delegation is sent to individual nations for an objective assessment re: a checklist of countermeasures e.g. UN Resolution 1373 re: counterterrorism. A 'global peacebuilding initiative', however, and an International Bill of Rights (see "2048: Humanity's Agreement to Live Together" by Dr. Kirk Boyd) suggests a multifactorial approach i.e. a Convention would not convene or the delegation would not be sent unless, at least, five global issues were on the same table and these questions would apply to all 192 nations: What are you doing to end war? What are you doing to prevent the spread of disease? What are doing about money waste? What are you doing to increase the efficient use of energy? What are doing to adapt to the consequences of climate change?

Hmmm - I could ask Foreign Policy Magazine the same set of questions.

 

GOTTAWANNALIVE

5:11 AM ET

January 8, 2011

Poynette, Wisconsin

I drive through the Poynette, Wisconsin, area a few times a year on fishing trips. The entire town isn't worth a million dollars.

 

KARMAK99

9:53 AM ET

January 8, 2011

Underwear Bomber

>Imagine if security officers in Amsterdam had been made aware of the warnings the underwear bomber's father gave to the U.S. Embassy in Abuja.

Imagine if the "underwear bomber" hadn't been taken past security by a "well dressed American" and escorted onto the plane even though he did not have the required travel documents.

 

UNMITIGATED-TRUTH

9:13 PM ET

January 8, 2011

Does TSA stand for ......

I totally agree that the TSA has NOT made us any safer, and I have said so in previous blogs.

http://www.unmitigated-truth.com/2010/01/terrorists-say-jump-do-we-say-how-high.html
and the ever popular
http://www.unmitigated-truth.com/2010/11/tsa-protection-or-perversion.html

So what DOES the acronym TSA stand for? Could it be..
Trained Security Apes?
Tough Sh.. America?
Touch Someone's Ass?

I am sure that you all have your favorites... Please share.

 

OGOPOGO

5:05 PM ET

January 9, 2011

Unconventional Wisdom

I agree with the assessment regarding the waste and lack of effectiveness within the DHS/ TSA. However, the article will be of little note unless a series of articles pursue with great vigor a candid review of its inception, performance to-date, current status, its related programs and associated costs. Let us not forget that ALL of the 911 participants were identified as risks as they entered the country and individuals within the chain of command chose not to act. The system did not fail; people failed. Rather than focus on the chain of command and the short-comings therein, the DHS/ TSA was thrust upon us in a classic "CYA" move and with its incredible price tag. Daily we now suffer an incremental loss of freedom, and moreover, any who raise a voice of protest self-identify themselves as a potential threat in the eyes of DHS/ TSA. I believe that any competent management team independently selected could deliver much better results and effect a more secure America for 1/3 the current cost.

 

STK33

9:29 AM ET

January 10, 2011

Homeland Security

All the incidents since 9/11 and including it, were not genuine terrorist plots, for the simple reason: they all were missing one necessary component - an organization taking responsibility and making political claim. Without that, it's not a terror act, it's either act of yet another unstable individual, or false flag operation set up by the government, of which the history of all nations is full. The former are largely unpredictable and can happen anywhere - however unfortunate, it's no more than tragic accident in life, and there's no real reason for the society to react on them harsher than on any other life-taking accidents, which routinely take thousands of lives every year without anyone really worried - car accidents, doctors' errors, work accidents, lone gunmen in public places, and so on - it's all inevitable. Isn't it amazing how whenever another gunman shoots people in another public place, the authorities are calming us down by stating that this was not a terrorist plot - does it really make a difference? And for a lone individual, there are thousands of places and occasions to do harm, of which transportation is maybe 1/000. In this light, investing unimaginable billions of dollars in that particular 1/000 is obvious nonsense. How about naked scanners on the beach, in symphony orchestra hall, or on the bus or train stop on the way to everyday work? those places are as crowded as the airplane, and the ticket is much cheaper.

As for the genuine terror plots, don't we have a professional organization called FBI? who is accidentally also taking billions of our tax dollars for their work, but who, again, so far has not encountered a single terrorist plot that was not created by themselves by approaching the same unstable individuals from Part 1, and carefully guiding them to the arrestable act by months (sometimes years) of work, readily providing ideas, money, transportation, explosives, and everything else they never thought about by themselves.

This scam has been going on for decade, and I don't think its incidental that comparable scam has been going on in the banking industry. More and more this all looks like the fragments of the same big picture of the society, where one hand is robo-signing fake mortgages and then uses them to take away family homes, while another hand is "protecting" those same families in the airport.

 

PEOTRE

9:45 AM ET

January 12, 2011

And yet

Why does the establishment live the lie? What is as obvious as a naked person strutting on Main Street is somehow excluded from the conventional wisdom that forms U.S. policy. We did have John Mueller's piece in Foreign Affairs, Sep./Oct. 2006 that covered some of this ground, but it seems not to be taken seriously. Guess there's no money in it.

 

LIVIU HOROVITZ

3:16 AM ET

January 11, 2011

Well, IAEA inspections are not for all...

Dear Ms. Hachigian,
It seems to me that American pundits have a hard time accepting that China wants to play by its own rules and the United States has no instruments to coerce it to change its behavior. To me, Beijing seems willing to negotiate agreements it benefits from, just less willing to accept frameworks designed by Washington to its own advantage. While Washington's (liberal) pundits think such a behavior is perfectly fine for their own country, it bothers them when others do it... Well, just to exemplify: you yourself write that the NPT "requires the United States and the other 188 signatories to allow inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency at their nuclear facilities." It would be wonderful if the story would be so beautiful. But it's not. The treaty is discriminatory, with the United States and other four countries who tested a nuclear weapon before 1967 being absolved from inspections, allowed under the treaty to keep their nukes for as long as they "negotiate in good faith." Well, one might say, tough luck for the states without nukes if they agreed to this skewed agreement. True, I answer. Their bad luck. But America's now with China ;)

 

RUSSELBERTRAND

3:12 PM ET

January 11, 2011

Herbert Stein's Law

"If something cannot go on forever, it will stop," that basically sums up your 9 page ariticle...

 

OLIVER CHETTLE

4:30 PM ET

January 11, 2011

When do you suggest people

When do you suggest people should have started to note the relative rise of China (and oft-overlooked India)? Five years before it surpassed the United States? Five minutes before? Five years afterwards? This article is rather like one in a British magazine arguing that the UK could never lose its global supremacy to the United States, written in 1910. Just as the U.S. supplanting of British power was a near inevitability, the U.S. is going to lose its supremacy over the next hundred unless China and India screw up very badly indeed, that's simply a matter of demographics. (It might regain it hundreds of years further on, because it has a lot of highly desirable land that isn't well populated yet, and many other advantages that won't go away completely, but that's too far out to be relevant to current policy).

The challenge for Americans is to make America a great place to live when the chest-puffing hegemony has gone. Like British politicians didn't. You don't have to be a superpower to be a great country to live in. The best country in the world in the 20th century was probably Switzerland, not the United States. Right now it isn't America or China, but perhaps Australia or Finland. Superpower status is only actually beneficial to a tiny number of politicians, civil servants, and other power-mongerers.

 

OKEY-OYNA

8:10 PM ET

January 11, 2011

thanka

I drive through the Poynette, Okey oyna Wisconsin, area a few times a year on fishing trips. The entire town isn't worth a million dollars.

 

FLYOVER GRAMPS

10:48 AM ET

January 13, 2011

Two comments

These essays were sprinkled with a good bit of nonsense.

You left out a biggie .... "Iran is a scary threat"!

 

DOMNULEDOCTOR

9:48 PM ET

January 16, 2011

Geriatric revisionism

As a long time reader of Mr. Gelb—almost his every writing-- I felt he had a long period of reliable and very introspection provoking writings. Alas, as his first book misrepresented US Vietnam War policy, now, at the end of a sterling career, he is misrepresenting the *quantitative* dynamics of US "pressure" on Israel.

Let us not forget that Israel betrayed the US by deceiving it in order to go nuclear together with apartheid South Africa. Israel did not need to go nuclear and is the only nuclear power to have contemplated using its nuclear bombs on Arabs, TWICE, no matter what "pressure" the US imposed on it. And let us not forget the pure chutzpah of Israel’s deliberate air and sea attack of a clearly marked USS Liberty in international waters, killing more Americans (31) than died from the bombing of the USS Cole (18).

I would recommend reading Jimmy Carter latest diary of notes on how Israel responded to his Camp David "pressure." As he recently said on a radio broadcast: "I was the only Democratic President denied a second term because of the Zionist lobby's punishment of me for taking Sinai away from Israel." George Bush Sr. also said much about the pressures on him, leaving him, making him a one term president for the same reason.

Mr. Gelb has been a brilliant provocateur of meaningful dialogue and for that he leaves behind a brilliant legacy for responsible debate. But, should he now choose to become a "hasbara-ist" in his twilight years, it would be a very sad eclipse of his great stature as thinker our youth should study.

 

DOMNULEDOCTOR

9:50 PM ET

January 16, 2011

Geriatric revisionism

As a long time reader of Mr. Gelb—almost his every writing-- I felt he had a long period of reliable and very introspection provoking writings. Alas, as his first book misrepresented US Vietnam War policy, now, at the end of a sterling career, he is misrepresenting the *quantitative* dynamics of US "pressure" on Israel.

Let us not forget that Israel betrayed the US by deceiving it in order to go nuclear together with apartheid South Africa. Israel did not need to go nuclear and is the only nuclear power to have contemplated using its nuclear bombs on Arabs, TWICE, no matter what "pressure" the US imposed on it. And let us not forget the pure chutzpah of Israel’s deliberate air and sea attack of a clearly marked USS Liberty in international waters, killing more Americans (31) than died from the bombing of the USS Cole (18).

I would recommend reading Jimmy Carter latest diary of notes on how Israel responded to his Camp David "pressure." As he recently said on a radio broadcast: "I was the only Democratic President denied a second term because of the Zionist lobby's punishment of me for taking Sinai away from Israel." George Bush Sr. also said much about the pressures on him, leaving him, making him a one term president for the same reason.

Mr. Gelb has been a brilliant provocateur of meaningful dialogue and for that he leaves behind a brilliant legacy for responsible debate. But, should he now choose to become a "hasbara-ist" in his twilight years, it would be a very sad eclipse of his great stature as thinker our youth should study.

 

FEYNMANFANGIRL

10:58 PM ET

January 18, 2011

Carter didn't get another term because of ISRAEL?!

I'm not a rah-rah Israel supporter and your example of Israel's nuclear defiance is well taken (the USS Liberty issue is a little more confused than you present it).

BUT the two Presidents you cite as being done in by the nefarious, scheming Zionist lobby didn't really have a snowball's chance in hell.

Carter had stagflation and a national humiliation in Iran while GHW also faced a lackluster economy, representing the party that had been in power for 12 years so everyone was itching for change, and a peculiar lack of charisma against one of the most dynamic nominees the Democratic party has ever put forward.

How were their Israel policies received? Camp David is about the only thing the nation remembers fondly from Carter's term while Bush lost to Clinton, whom many Israel advocates HATE because of his pressure on the Israelis.

 

CASSANDRAAA

11:31 PM ET

January 18, 2011

Nye's conclusion is wrong.

Nye's conclusion is wrong. The American rise to power, replacing Britain after WW-II has lead to almost continuous warfare on our part, typically in some of the poorest nations on the planet.

China should be worried about our aggression, not vice versa. We are the nation unilaterally invading others and threatening still more, selling more arms than anyone else.

And don't forget Afghanistan is contiguous with China. Can you imagine how the USA would be freaking out if China had as many bases in the Americas as we insist on having in the countries surrounding them?

To use William Pfaff's term, we fail at "reverse-think," to consider how we would react if treated as we treat others. But that is characteristic of imperial powers.

 

STEERPIKE

1:26 AM ET

January 20, 2011

The pressure on Palestine

The pressure on Palestine from the US:

During the 1970s, for example, the United States supported King Hussein’s violent crackdown on the PLO cadres who were threatening his rule in Jordan. During the 1980s, the United States refused to recognize the PLO until it accepted Israel’s right to exist. After the outbreak of the Second Intifada, the Bush administration refused to deal with Yasser Arafat and pushed hard for his replacement. After Arafat's death, we insisted on democratic elections for a new Palestinian assembly and then rejected the results when Hamas won. The United States has also gone after charitable organizations with ties to Hamas and backed Israel’s recent campaign in Gaza..

from http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/04/10/can_the_united_states_put_pressure_on_israel_a_users_guide

Mr Gelb, exactly what pressure does the US exert on Israel? Cutting back on the annual $3 B aid package? Threatening a withdrawal of support in the UN? Cut back on military purchases and joint training? Stopping tax deductions on donations for illegal settlements? Or is a yearly public speech given with a wink and which the Israelis ignore good enough for you?

You claim you are exploding the myth America does not pressure Israel. All you do is repeat all the one-sided half truths we have heard over and over.

 

FG42

9:51 AM ET

January 21, 2011

amen

Well said, Steerpike. I hope follks don't come after you now for being "anti-semitic."

 

KHALID RAHIM

3:52 AM ET

February 5, 2011

The Trinity of NeoCons

Where is Cheney and where is Bush along with the rest of the coterie
to save their trinity from the havoc taking place between the Pharaoh of
the upper kingdom and the lower kingdom. Soon cries of help the wolf
is coming would be heard in occupied Jerusalem, And when god Israel
is asked by US Senate Where! Well we have not deceided to place our
creature in Amman or Sana.

 

THE COSMIST

1:09 PM ET

February 8, 2011

The Cosmos is infinite in all directions!

The problem with the Malthusians is they are thinking way too small. Our planet, as beautiful and rich as it is, is a tiny speck of dust in an unimaginably vast universe. Our sun produces more than *twenty trillion* times our current global power usage. A single small asteroid contains precious minerals worth more than the combined GDP's of the USA and China! The idea that we are approaching any limits to growth is therefore totally absurd! The only danger is that we allow Malthusian thinking to limit on our imagination and our ambition, at which point zero sum economics kicks in and we begin slaughtering each other over finite resources. This is the situation that must be avoided at all costs, and which will be avoided if we continuing pushing outward toward the stars!

 

ICKYTHUMP

10:10 PM ET

February 8, 2011

@The Cosmist: suggest you

@The Cosmist: suggest you read this, on Fermi's Paradox.
http://myblog.michaelpbyron.com/2007/09/21/peak-oil-and-the-fermi-paradox.aspx

Basically Fermi's paradox is: if evolution of intelligent life is not a vanishingly rare event, and if the universe is very big and very old (thus providing many opportunities for intelligent life to arise), then WHY haven't we encountered any intelligent alien visitors? In short, where is everybody?

Quoting from the essay:
"The hydrocarbon energy available to a planetary civilization is analogous to the yolk of an egg: just as the yolk offers a newly emerged creature needed energy to break out of the egg and get established in the wider world, so too does a planet's hydrocarbon energy deposits provide an emergent technological civilization the boost it needs to leave its birthworld and establish itself in its solar system. It offers a very brief window of opportunity to allow a species to develop the technologies and techniques to bootstrap itself off of its planet of origin. Once out into space, a civilization can take advantage of the thousandfold greater material and energy resources found across the solar system. Meanwhile the birthworld can rest and regenerate from its difficult birthing.

[...] The bottom line is clear: our civilization could have expanded off planet and established itself among the moons, asteroids, and in the case of Mars, even planets of our solar system. Except that we didn’t. Instead we had the Cold War, we had the Vietnam War, while Soviet Russia had its Afghan War, etc. In just the past half decade, a fraction of the monies that will ultimately be squandered on the futile Iraq war (trillions of dollars) could have, if directed by a pragmatic visionary such as Robert Zubrin, bootstrapped our species out into the solar system.

Without our realizing it, the window of opportunity for humans to expand into our solar system is rapidly closing. With all of the multiple crises which are bearing down upon our civilization—peak oil, climate change, capture of our government and our economy by rapacious, undemocratic corporate elites, etc., I do not believe that we will (pun intended) rise to the occasion.

Across our galaxy this story has likely played out multiple times during the last two billion years or so in which intelligent life might plausibly have evolved. The core problem is that the window of opportunity for solar system expansion is so very brief, that of the small number of planetary civilizations which have probably emerged in our galaxy thus far in its history, none have succeeded in taking advantage of it before the window slammed shut forever.

That is the stark answer to the Fermi Paradox, as I see it."