How Tehran Sees Tunis

From Iran, it's more about 1979 than 2009.

BY MEHRUN ETEBARI | JANUARY 28, 2011

As Tunisian President-for-Life Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali fled into ignominious exile two weeks ago, democrats around the world found hope in the notion that Tunisia's Jasmine Revolution would spread to Iran. The images of demonstrations from Sidi Bouzid to Tunis reminded Americans of the massive 2009 protests that gave rise to Iran's opposition Green Movement, and as pro-democracy movements inspired by Tunisia emerged in Egypt and Yemen, many observers saw a chance for Iran to be next. But looking closer, it's clear that Iranians -- from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei on down to the Green Movement opposition -- view the Tunisia situation as vastly different from their own, and not one that's likely to spill over into a renewed push for democratic reform in their own country.

Despite the examples of Ben Ali and Egypt's beleaguered President Hosni Mubarak, Iran's leaders are far from running scared. In fact, Tehran is taking a distinctly more triumphalist understanding of the roots and effects of the Tunisian protests than American commentators would expect from another authoritarian Middle Eastern government -- particularly from one facing its own challenges from opposition forces.

In the week following Ben Ali's frantic flight to Saudi Arabia, reactions from Iranian officials and state-supported media were, as always, bold and self-assured. But this is no skin-deep grandstanding designed to force a positive spin on an unsettling example of political upheaval. Where Washington sees an anti-authoritarian uprising, Tehran describes a 1979-style rejection of a U.S.-supported secularist: Ahmadinejad referred to the Tunisian uprising as an expression of the people's will for an Islamic order, and the Iranian Majlis voted overwhelmingly to support the "revolution."

The conservative press thoroughly rejects any suggestion that the uprising in Tunisia is at all comparable to the Green Movement. A hard-line paper associated with the Revolutionary Guard Corps ridiculed comparisons in opposition media outlets between the economic conditions that helped spark the Tunisian riots and Iran's economic struggles, arguing that Tehran's recent success in implementing risky economic reforms was a testament to the regime's durable popular mandate.

Hossein Shariatmadari -- one of the Islamic Republic's most influential conservatives -- used the Tunisian events to underscore the hard-liners' far-fetched claims that Iran's 2009 post-election violence represented a purely Western-oriented conspiracy. Writing in the hard-line Kayhan newspaper a few days after Ben Ali left the country, he likened the masses of Iranians who poured into the streets demanding a recount of the last presidential election to the despotic Ben Ali regime. By his logic, Tehran's repression of the protests and the Green Movement -- a Western plot -- was actually what emboldened Tunisians to seize their own independence from American-endorsed autocracy.

Shariatmadari explained, "When the Muslim nations of the region see clearly that not just one arrogant power but all arrogant powers with all their powers and capabilities have been bitterly defeated against the Islamic faith and national perseverance of the Muslim people of Iran, do you not think that they would rise up for the liberation of themselves and their homeland from under the dominance of dictators and foreign colonialism?" While this idea may sound preposterous to American ears, the resonance it holds in the upper echelons of the Iranian leadership only points to a more assertive Tehran.

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 SUBJECTS: IRAN, DEMOCRACY, ARAB WORLD
 

Mehrun Etebari is a senior research assistant at the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the Brookings Institution.

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SABABA03

6:43 PM ET

January 29, 2011

Iran's regime viewed in pragamtic light.

Despite Mr. Etebari's rosy view of the regime in Iran, this regime has too many strikes against it to survive in the long run.

1. It's ruling Farsi group. makes only 51% of the total population in Iran ( Persian 51%, Azeri 24%, Gilaki and Mazandarani 8%, Kurd 7%, Arab 3%, Lur 2%, Baloch 2%, Turkmen 2%, other 1%).

2. 89% of Muslims in Iran are Shi'ite. However, they constitute only 11 - 12% of the total Muslims around the world. Shiites and Sunnis hate each others, and have been in deadly conflict since the death of Mohammad.

3. It is known fact, Farsi consider themselves a superior group to the Arabs. They loath the Arabs and look upon them as backwards and with disdain. Arabs know it.

4. For that reason, Sunni do not trust the Farsi, and consider them as heretics - not true Muslims. View the Mullahs in Tehran as pathological lairs, who's word can not be trusted.

5. Survey after survey clearly show that, 80% Iranians - particularly the young and educed in Iran, they do not support this backward regime.

6. Despite their bellicose, this regime has very few true and reliable friends around the world, who share with them anything, except oil and / or money. Where loyalty and friendship is bough with hard cash, or free weapons (Hamas & Hizbollah).

7. No need to discuss the ramification of recent sanctions on this regime. Iran is isolated, thanks to this fanatic and lunatic regime.

8. Despite their frequent assertion of advancement in domestic weapon development, we have yet see their own military forces demonstrate their weaponry. Or demonstrate their military capabilities in real battleground.

9. Inflation & unemployment in Iran is said hover around 12% & 14.5% respectively. Despite their massive oil reserve, Iran still imports refined oil products. some type of "super power" ha?.
despite having one of the highest educated people per capita in the region, the Mullahs manage to product GDP ($11,400 - 2010). It is a bit more then a 1/3 produced by their arch foe, Israel ($29,500 - 2010) .

In summary. This regime is going nowhere. They are great at the game of pretentious posture. Lead others to believe they are the roaring mouse, where in reality their leaders are a group of cowered, and dishonest people who cling to power through deception, raw power, and oppression - it can not last for too long with the brave Iranian man and woman.

The While the Akmed in Tehran waiting for his illusive Imam Mehdi to show up, the freedom loving Iranians are also waiting for realistic time to show this man and his co-hord the boot.

Just give it time.

Source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ir.html

 

EUGENE55

7:58 PM ET

January 29, 2011

Wishful thinking

Wishful thinking Mr. Sabara, Wishful thinking!
You are just longing for the good old days of the Shah.
They are not coming back!
Democracy and freedom are just drugs for the masses the same way religion is.
They are manipulated by rich nations to subjugate the poorer ones.
And Israel is a parasite state living on US money.

 

NASSIM

1:09 AM ET

January 30, 2011

Yes, Iran is poor

Sure, Iran is poor. However, it seems that they change president every now and then. Also, their parliament has serious debates - despite its undemocratic nature. Yes, it does have factions and these factions swap power quite often - unlike Tunisia and Egypt.

Of course the regime in Iran is delighted with what is happening all around Israel - in Tunisia, Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey and even Saudia Arabia and Yemen. Why shouldn't they be? The Israelis will have to rework their strategy and recognize that it is in tatters. Bribing "pro-West" dictators and getting them to suppress their populations is not working after all! Surprise, surprise!

Let me guess. I think Israel will be so busy putting out diplomatic fires over the next few years that we will hear little of "nuclear weapons" in the context of Iran - Israel has some real problems and little energy to spare for creating phantom dangers.

If you understand why this movie is so popular in the Middle East then everything else should fall into place:

http://english.aljazeera.net/video/europe/2011/01/201112863519554254.html

 

GRANT

2:12 PM ET

January 30, 2011

Iran doesn't seem too likely

Iran doesn't seem too likely to switch any presidents after the last election. To be honest I normally wouldn't care since it discredits a lot of Iran's rhetoric, except that nuclear weapons make things a good deal more dangerous.
As for the Sunni/Shia matter, that really depends on which nation and you're in where you are in that nation. In some nations they couldn't care less, in others they're at each others throats and anything in between.

 

MUDDY_BUDDY_2000

5:09 PM ET

January 31, 2011

Constitutional Democracy is the Answer

Democracy is not a religion or a miracle. People have to stay informed, and make sure the Constitution and the laws protects the rights of the individual, and insure the elections can be real challenges to those in power. Term limits for the top position are a good idea. Freedom of the Press is absolutely vital to having any freedom at all. You have to be able to say things no one wants to hear.

BTW To say Israel gets all its money from the USA is just a sad argument. It gets lots of money, but Israel has also created a whole lot leading high technology companies, and others all across the business and technology world. In Arab states, even those with massive amounts of Oil money, they have not done as well. Take Saudi Arabia for example, millions with college degrees and how many top tech companies were started there? The gulf states have massive capital, and still produce almost nothing new. Why are so few books translated into Arabic? More books are translated into Greek, than Arabic, and Egypt lone has 4 times as many Arabic speakers are there are Greek speakers (or readers) in the entire world. This is a very sad change from when the Arabic World lead the entire world in technology across the board, and were some of the most tolerant societies.

I have great hopes that if Egypt becomes free, and protects free speech and freedom of religion, we may see a blossoming which will change the world. I know that people who come to the USA from the Middle East have no problem creating great things, why is it so hard there in countries rolling in money like the gulf states. Its time the Middle East embraces what is best about the Western and Modern World.

 

BABAK

11:15 AM ET

February 23, 2011

response to SABABA03

"Survey after survey clearly show that, 80% Iranians - particularly the young and educed in Iran, they do not support this backward regime."

not according to the world public opinion survey released in early 2010 about the iran elections:
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb10/IranElection_Feb10_rpt.pdf

or the international peace institute poll about iran taken in late 2010: http://payvand.com/blog/blog/2010/12/13/iranian-public-opinion-survey-by-international-peace-institute/

'No need to discuss the ramification of recent sanctions on this regime. Iran is isolated, thanks to this fanatic and lunatic regime.'

actually its not just because of the 'lunatic regime' but also because of israel preventing any rival like iran from rising in the middle-east (through nuclear weapons) and also because of the neo-conservatives lobbying and influence in the us-government, with the eventual goal of invading iran and protecting israel.

'Despite their frequent assertion of advancement in domestic weapon development, we have yet see their own military forces demonstrate their weaponry. Or demonstrate their military capabilities in real battleground.'

we have seen them demonstrate their military capabilities in real battleground during the war with iraq back in the 80s and that was when they had primitive and basic military equipments/weapons/vehicles, fighting against an iraq which was armed with the latest technology/weapons/vehicles by basically all superpowers (i.e. USA, USSR, China, Arab Nations, Western Europe Nations, etc.).

it was technically iran vs. the world, and they still managed to hold on to their territories while fighting on for 8 years.

since the end of that war up to now iran has been building up its arms and military all independently (i.e. not buying from foreign countries like Saudi Arabia or Egypt etc.) and recently the military and revolutionary guards have gotten more powerful, with more influence and power in government, taking part in more business deals etc.

so if iran was resistant and powerful in the 80s imagine how powerful it is now.
furthermore we have seen iran demonstrate its weaponry during its annual military parades. not only that but the explosions and IEDS it supplies to insurgents in afghanistan and iraq is enough proof of what they are capable of producing. so in addition of having conventional warfare, the iranian military will have asymmetric warfare through means of insurgencies.

 

BABAK

11:18 AM ET

February 23, 2011

@SABABA03

please doublecheck and verify your facts before getting them from questionable sources like the CIA and iranian exiles

 

SABABA03

10:28 PM ET

January 29, 2011

Speaking of Israel as "parasite" state

EUGENE55 WRITES:
"Israel is a parasite state living on US money"

If parasite to you means this:

GDP per CAPITA (2010 est).

ARAB & ISLAMIC STATES:

1.Bangladesh---$1,700
2.Egypt:---------$6,200
3.Iraq:-----------$3,600
4.Mauritania.....$2,100
5.Nigeria:-------$2,400
6.Pakistan:------$2,400
7.Somalia:--------$600 (Pirates?)
8.Syria:---------$4,800
9.Sudan:--------$2,200
10.Yemen-------$2,600
TOTAL:-------$24,500

ISRAEL------$29,500

Oil rich States.
Saudi Arabia:--$24,200
Iran:-------------$11,200