Stepping In

Libya doesn't meet any of the criteria for a humanitarian intervention. We should do it anyway.

BY JAMES TRAUB | MARCH 11, 2011

In September 1999, in the aftermath of the brutal ethnic cleansing that Serbian forces had perpetrated on the civilian population of Kosovo, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan addressed the General Assembly on the subject of humanitarian intervention. The struggle over the appropriate response to the atrocities, Annan said, had "revealed the core challenge to the Security Council and to the United Nations as a whole in the next century: to forge unity behind the principle that massive and systematic violations of human rights -- wherever they may take place -- should not be allowed to stand." Annan's speech was greeted rapturously in the West -- but not in the developing world. Answering Annan in the General Assembly, President Abdelaziz Bouteflika of Algeria said bluntly that "interference in internal affairs may take place only with the consent of the state in question."

The debate over intervention has gone around and around the same circle ever since. Western leaders and Western thinkers -- including Annan, whose views were shaped far more by decades of international service than by his boyhood in Ghana -- have argued for the moral imperative of intervention in various forms to prevent or stop atrocities. The ex-colonial countries of the developing world, meanwhile, have invoked the sanctity of state sovereignty. The universal adoption in 2005 of the principle of "the responsibility to protect" has blunted that divide somewhat by shifting the emphasis from the right of outsiders to intervene to the obligation of all states to prevent atrocities. But the debates over action in Burma, Sudan, Zimbabwe, and elsewhere were dominated by the same threadbare claims of sovereignty. Effective action was impossible so long as the neighbors insisted on protecting the abusive tyrant.

Until now. In the debate over intervention in Libya, Russian diplomats have contented themselves with the usual boilerplate on sovereignty, but Arab states, remarkably, have not. The same Arab leaders who protect murderous despots like Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir have called on the West to take forceful action to oust Libya's leader, Muammar al-Qaddafi. In recent days, the Gulf Cooperation Council, as well as the leaders of the Arab League and the Organization of the Islamic Conference, have called for the establishment of a no-fly zone over Libya. Soon after Qaddafi began his attacks on unarmed civilians, the Qatari foreign ministry, which maintains equable relations with virtually all parties to Middle East conflicts, issued a statement criticizing "the silence of the international community over the bloody events in Libya."

Of course, the fact that Libya's neighbors are calling for a no-fly zone doesn't, by itself, make it a good idea. After all, they're not proposing to do anything but vote on it; the actual work would most likely have to be done by the United States and NATO, which in practice means the United States, which has the air assets in the region. And Russia or China could still block Security Council authorization for further action. But in this case, the legitimacy of Arab bodies counts for much more than the council's authorization. Qaddafi will, of course, try to portray himself as the victim of a Western crusade. That would be a lot harder if both Libya's rebels and Arab leaders publicly call for the action, and stand by it (which is, of course, far from a certainty). Arab endorsement removes the single greatest political obstacle to action.

ROBERTO SCHMIDT/AFP/Getty Images

 

James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

HURRICANEWARNING

2:23 PM ET

March 11, 2011

What are we? Highschoolers?

What are we? Highschoolers? Yeah, it's great in THEORY to run around stopping ruthless dictators everywhere they pop their heads up. But in practice, you are endangering AMERICAN LIVES. It's all well and good to talk about military action when you dont think of the consequences. You are putting other peoples sons and daughters at risk, in a foreign country, where we have no defined interests except essentially that "it feels wrong", and "mumar is just a bad guy" Really? I doubt the President feels the same way. Emotion has NO business in international relations. When you get emotion involved, bad things happen, like say the Iraq invasion. You HAVE to say, cost benefit wise, is it worth it to intervene? And in Libya, unfortunately, it isn't. We are not the worlds superman. We can't intervene in every single problem that pops its head up. If we go into Libya, then we damn well better go into Zimbabwe, Sudan, Somalia, Congo, Myanmar, North Korea, Iran, and the list goes on. You want to know the reason we havent gone into any of those places? Because we would lose people, and would it be worth it, what do we gain? Nothing.

 

FIGHTINGFALCON

5:53 PM ET

March 11, 2011

Wow

I'm amazed that neo-conservatives have the audacity to advocate their world view after the events of the past 10 years.

The U.S. has absolutely no business intervening in the domestic affairs of Libya. Nor is there any humanitarian crisis that is worthy of revoking Libya's sovereignty. The West sat idly by as hundreds of thousands suffered in Myanmar in 2008 because the junta wouldn't allow humanitarian aid into the country. That was a true crisis but even then the West stuck to the right of sovereign nations to rule as they see fit.

Tragic as the situation is in Libya, it does not come anywhere close to a humanitarian crisis. Should the West get involved, it would be an act of war and we would commit ourselves to fixing the country once we break it. Given the absolute disasters in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'm floored that some people think that this would actually be a good idea.

Neo-conservatives should be happy that they haven't been completely expelled from the foreign policy arena. They certainly shouldn't be advocating yet another U.S. military intervention into a Muslim country.

 

WOODRAT

3:06 AM ET

March 12, 2011

Waiting

I wish we'd hurry up and act. It makes the US look weak when the government keeps warning that we *will* do something and then does nothing as Gaddafi's forces pound the rebels. It's embarrassing. We have been given a wonderful opportunity to lend a hand in freeing Libyans from a dictator, contributing to the historic movement sweeping the region and showing we are willing to stand up for our principles. It would take very little for us to help and what we gain in goodwill could be enormous. What is happening in these countries is a huge blow to Al Qaeda. We can't control the outcome of these revolutions, but this is exactly how I would choose we use our military power. Yes, important things are happening in this country, but we can't afford to ignore the rest of the world. I think it would gain us new respect in the Arab world and it's a golden opportunity to put our money where our mouth is. I should add that I am a devout liberal. I don't think this is a neoconservative view at all.

 

HIS HOLINESS FOCUSED ON CHURCH BUREAUCRACY NOT DOCTRINE

2:10 PM ET

March 12, 2011

Article is Silly Emotion

This article boils down to a silly rational of "Gaddafi is bad dictator. U.S. should eliminate bad dictators.".

The truth is, the U.S. is not the world's cop. It is not the job of the U.S. to find and eliminate every "bad man".
The truth is, no fly zones do cost in terms of money and personnel, and lives. No fly zones are not simple and free items that are magically implemented overnight as the author implies. I defy the author to find one no-fly zone where there was not a plane shot down, accidents or mishaps that did cause injuries or deaths.
The truth is, the U.S. has no national interests in Libya.
The final truth is, the author has absolutely no clue that the rebels are democratic in any form. He can't show we aren't replacing Gaddafi with the next Gaddafi, or even worse. Given the rebel cities vs. Gaddafi cities are broken along old political lines of Tripolitania and Cyrenaica (Ottoman borders), it is almost certain there is a heavy tribal element to the rebellion.

If the "Arab League" and "brother Arabs" of the Libyans are so concerned as the author insists, then mount a no-fly zone by the Arab League nations. The Saudis and Egyptians have sufficient planes, resources and money to run such an operation.

 

PASTOR BURT

6:03 AM ET

March 13, 2011

THE US AND EU SHOULD INTERVENE TO PROTECT THEIR OWN INTERESTS

Unless the U.S. is prepared to accept $5 a gallon gasoline at the pump, and a second deeper recession, the U.S. should (a) support a “no-fly zone”, and (b) supply the rebels with anti-tank, and shoulder launch surface-to-air missiles immediately.

Libya is the third largest Arab oil producer. The longer this civil war goes on, the more certain Gaddafi will destroy the country’s oil producing infrastructure battling the rebels simply to hold onto power. The result of this inevitable destruction of the Libyan national oil infrastructure will be vast and prolonged increases in oil prices for years to come, pulling both U.S. and European economies into deeper recessions.

Beyond the loss of civilian Libyan life, the need for the U.S., the EU, and NATO to protect their national economic requires immediate action. Should President Obama not act, the resulting second recession in the U.S. will preclude his own re-election in 2012. The first duty of any government is to maintain power. Thus, unless the current U.S. administration intent is to leave office in 2012, the U.S., NATO, and the EU should intervene immediately as outlined here to protect their own national economies.

 

XTIANGODLOKI

9:28 AM ET

March 14, 2011

Kosovo is not Libya

In hindsight I am not even sure if supporting Kosovo was the right idea as the KLA, US' key ally at the time, are turning out to be almost as big group of war criminals (it's currently being invested for organ harvesting). That's besides the point though.

The neocons are clearly oblivious to history. As with the case of last two interventions, Iraq and Afghanistan, things are never that simple. "Liberating" the people from brutal dictators clearly is not enough to stablize the region. If the US were to intervene it needs to think through long term plans to keep the region from turning into haven for terrorists. Looking at the cost of Iraq/Afghanistan war, it's NOT in the US' interest to continue to wander into wars without seriously preparations and sacrifices. Even if we can "buy" loyalty (that itself is a big question, the US couldn't buy loyalty in Iraq/Afghanistan), are the American people willing to spend a couple of trillion dollars to make Libya a better place? If the answer is no (we are dealing with the same Americans who are willing to cut significant services to its own poor people after all) then why would neocons advocate otherwise? The answer to that is simple as well: neocons are paid off by defense industry lobbyists.