Is America Addicted to War?

The top 5 reasons why we keep getting into foolish fights.

BY STEPHEN M. WALT | APRIL 4, 2011

The United States started out as 13 small and vulnerable colonies clinging to the east coast of North America. Over the next century, those original 13 states expanded all the way across the continent, subjugating or exterminating the native population and wresting Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California from Mexico. It fought a bitter civil war, acquired a modest set of overseas colonies, and came late to both world wars. But since becoming a great power around 1900, it has fought nearly a dozen genuine wars and engaged in countless military interventions.

Yet Americans think of themselves as a peace-loving people, and we certainly don't regard our country as a "warrior nation" or "garrison state." Teddy Roosevelt was probably the last U.S. president who seemed to view war as an activity to be welcomed (he once remarked that "A just war is in the long run far better for a man's soul than the most prosperous peace"), and subsequent presidents always portray themselves as going to war with great reluctance, and only as a last resort.

In 2008, Americans elected Barack Obama in part because they thought he would be different from his predecessor on a host of issues, but especially in his approach to the use of armed force. It was clear to nearly everyone that George W. Bush had launched a foolish and unnecessary war in Iraq, and then compounded the error by mismanaging it (and the war in Afghanistan too). So Americans chose a candidate who had opposed Bush's war in Iraq and could bring U.S. commitments back in line with our resources. Above all, Americans thought Obama would be a lot more thoughtful about where and how to use force, and that he understood the limits of this crudest of policy tools. The Norwegian Nobel Committee seems to have thought so too, when they awarded him the Nobel Peace Prize not for anything he had done, but for what it hoped he might do henceforth.

Yet a mere two years later, we find ourselves back in the fray once again. Since taking office, Obama has escalated U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and launched a new war against Libya. As in Iraq, the real purpose of our intervention is regime change at the point of a gun. At first we hoped that most of the guns would be in the hands of the Europeans, or the hands of the rebel forces arrayed against Muammar al-Qaddafi, but it's increasingly clear that U.S. military forces, CIA operatives and foreign weapons supplies are going to be necessary to finish the job.

Moreover, as Alan Kuperman of the University of Texas and Steve Chapman of the Chicago Tribune have now shown, the claim that the United States had to act to prevent Libyan tyrant Muammar al-Qaddafi from slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Benghazi does not stand up to even casual scrutiny. Although everyone recognizes that Qaddafi is a brutal ruler, his forces did not conduct deliberate, large-scale massacres in any of the cities he has recaptured, and his violent threats to wreak vengeance on Benghazi were directed at those who continued to resist his rule, not at innocent bystanders. There is no question that Qaddafi is a tyrant with few (if any) redemptive qualities, but the threat of a bloodbath that would "[stain] the conscience of the world" (as Obama put it) was slight.

It remains to be seen whether this latest lurch into war will pay off or not, and whether the United States and its allies will have saved lives or squandered them. But the real question we should be asking is: Why does this keep happening? Why do such different presidents keep doing such similar things? How can an electorate that seemed sick of war in 2008 watch passively while one war escalates in 2009 and another one gets launched in 2011? How can two political parties that are locked in a nasty partisan fight over every nickel in the government budget sit blithely by and watch a president start running up a $100 million per day tab in this latest adventure? What is going on here?

Here are my Top 5 Reasons Why America Keeps Fighting Foolish Wars:

1. Because We Can.
The most obvious reason that the United States keeps doing these things is the fact that it has a remarkably powerful military, especially when facing a minor power like Libya. As I wrote a couple of weeks ago, when you've got hundreds of planes, smart bombs, and cruise missiles, the whole world looks like a target set. So when some thorny problem arises somewhere in the world, it's hard to resist the temptation to "do something!"

It is as if the president has big red button on his desk, and then his aides come in and say, "There's something really nasty happening to some unfortunate people, Mr. President, but if you push that button, you can stop it. It might cost a few hundred million dollars, maybe even a few billion by the time we are done, but we can always float a bit more debt. As long as you don't send in ground troops, the public will probably go along, at least for awhile and there's no danger that anybody will retaliate against us -- at least not anytime soon -- because the bad guys (who are really nasty, by the way) are also very weak. Our vital interests aren't at stake, sir, so you don't have to do anything. But if you don't push the button lots of innocent people will die. The choice is yours, Mr. President."

It would take a very tough and resolute president -- or one with a clear set of national priorities and a deep understanding of the uncertainties of warfare -- to resist that siren song.

Of course, like his predecessors, Obama justifies his resort to force by invoking America's special place in the world. In the usual rhetoric of "American exceptionalism," he couched it in terms of U.S. values, its commitment to freedom, etc. But the truly exceptional thing about America today is not our values (and certainly not our dazzling infrastructure, high educational standards, rising middle-class prosperity, etc.); it is the concentration of military power in the hands of the president and the eroding political constraints on its employment. (For an elegant skewering of the "American exceptionalism" argument, see Andrew Sullivan here).

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Stephen M. Walt, the Robert and Renée Belfer professor of international affairs at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government and a contributing editor at Foreign Policy, is the author of Taming American Power: The Global Response to U.S. Primacy and, with co-author John J. Mearsheimer, The Israel Lobby. He blogs at walt.foreignpolicy.com.

TGGP

10:04 PM ET

April 4, 2011

You raise some good points,

You raise some good points, but even while I agree with you on our foolishness, I think you make some errors. Having a conscript military force in the past seems to have done jack squat for restraining it's use. The Civil War, World War 2 and Vietnam were far bloodier (we came in too late during WW1 for it to be so bad). Yglesias put's on his whiggish hat and discusses how much more averse to war we've become:
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2011/03/shifting-attitudes-toward-war/
Similarly, centuries ago when the elite was practically DEFINED by virtue of its being a military caste, it was not averse to war.

And I can't let Sullivan's error go unmentioned. Since he doesn't have comments, I'll have to do so here. Rome was indeed a republic for a reasonable amount of time, but the Spanish and British empires grew out of monarchies. Cromwell did very briefly form a commonwealth, but it's regarded as hardly counting. The enduring nature of America's "regime change" is also why I'd say his comparison of England & France is inapt.

 

MICHAEL GRAHAM

10:48 PM ET

April 7, 2011

Is America addicted to war?

Good piece. The authors downplayed one thing, however, the role of the military-industrial complex. Suggest you look up Marine General Smedley Butler's famous essay, "War is a Racket. A hell of a lot of people are making a hell of a lot of money off war -- otherwise where is all that dough going? THAT is why it is in the interest of all those over-decorated generals and admirals to keep the so-called "War on Terror" going.

Speaking of Marines, one should also note the comments of the former Commandant, David Shoup, who famously said of Vietnam:

"I believe if we had, and would, keep our dirty, bloody, dollar-crooked fingers out of the business of these nations so full of depressed, exploited people, they will arrive at a solution of their own. That they design and want. That they fight and work for... and not the American style, which they don't want. Not one crammed down their throats by the Americans."

Both Generals, by the way, were recipients of the Medal of Honor in their earlier years, Butler twice.

 

MICHAEL GRAHAM

12:04 AM ET

April 8, 2011

Is America addicted to war?

Addendum to my earlier comment:

Let's not for one minute forget the American cult of machismo, the "mine is bigger than yours" mentality of so many American males, most of whom have never been to war. That permeates the entire culture; witness the loudmouthed bravado at sporting events. It is part of the addiction to boorish behavior that often leads to violence. That contributes mightily to our love of war -- as long as someone else is fighting it. So do gratuitously violent images on the wide screen. That mindless crap translates easily into uber-patriotic sloganeering, such as "My country right or wrong."

 

MANNY17

5:20 AM ET

April 5, 2011

The facts, the facts are looking for you.

After my time at Harvard I learned that very often we work ourselves into these argumentative labyrinths because of a) unstated assumptions or b) excessive use of academese. Prof. Walt rallies against US military action and seems to enjoy skewering Americans' confidence, which he disparagingly labels the "exceptionalism myth." Well, I have a very simple explanation for why Americans agree to enter wars, and it avoids the very tepid, contorted explanations above.

An American would say we intervene because we feel a moral obligation, as PEOPLE, to help others in need. This is not an obligation we feel as "exceptional Americans," or because we just have to use weapons, or because our leaders are arrogant, or because we don't care about domestic programs. It is because we know that to stand by as others suffer is bad, is WRONG. And this is a sense of wrong understood all around the world.

And a point of fact. Prof. Walt seems intent on claiming that it is never justifiable to sacrifice domestic welfare programs in favor of foreign intervention. Really? 1) Does he think the Viagra benefit for retired teachers is worth more than the right of foreign peoples to not live under tyranny? 2) The Iraq war is said to have cost 700 Bn. Let's just say 1 Tn over 10 yrs, which is about 100 Bn a year. This amounts to .7% annual GDP. Given that federal and state receipts amount to 40% GDP (Fed is 2.8 Tn alone) I have to call bullshit on the claim the country is bankrupting itself by going to war with Lybia. This is not the UK fighting Nazi Germany in the greatest war of human history. We're bankrupting ourselves supporting every inane "domestic welfare" proposal ever written.

Perhaps it is Prof. Walt that is the exceptionalist, as apparently we're not supposed to care for suffering non-Americans. But perhaps his limited range of moral concern makes him the exception to a world that has increasingly learned to look beyond race, creed, and nation in understanding the moral responsibilities shared by all people.

Prof. Walt, as a political scientist your role is to try to explain as much using the tools of your discipline. It's plausible you are reaching untenable conclusions when you ignore the role off moral beliefs and the power of ethical ideas to shape human action. Sometimes people do things that are not directly beneficial for the simple reason that they think it is the right thing to do. And I think that is just fine - for what should one live if he's not supposed to defend basic moral decency?

 

NATEOMC

11:36 AM ET

April 5, 2011

How does it benefit us?

That is the key question that needs to be asked: How does it benifit us? Is it a good investment? If the answers are "It doesn't" and "No," then we should stop.

Nobody said defense was the sole reason we're going bankrupt (we have a gap between spending and revenue), but it is one of the 3 largest chunks of the budget, similar in size to Medicare and Social Security. Given the fact that the Soviet Union has been gone for decades, spending close to a trillion dollars per year on defense turns out to be a pretty big waste of money when you look at it. And yes, that really is the true figure when you take into account defense-related spending by DoE, State and other parts of the federal government. There are better ways for us to spend this money. New schools in US cities and better health care will provide a far better return on our investment than a new shipment of bombs that will not generate any further economic activity once they leave the factory. New power plants in the US will benefit Americans more than new power plants in Iraq. It's the classic "Guns v. Butter" debate and we've reached the point where we can no longer afford both and most likely don't need nearly as much of the former as we're accustomed to.

I get your point about wanting to help other human beings and largely agree with it, but it isn't our sole responsibility to act and it really isn't a good investment for us to always do so. We're going to have to step back sooner than later if we ever want to fix our own problems and have the rest of the world stop relying on us or blaming us.

 

GREYWOLF

1:37 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Really

Let me understand this. We illegally invaded Iraq under the auspices of non-existent WMD's (first excuse), then it was to free the Iraqi people (655k Iraqi's died as a result of this invasion and occupation as of 2006). As we illegally (Geneva Convention) destroyed Iraq's infrastructure leading to untold deaths due to lack of sanitation, clean water and electricity. Is this the morality you refer to? WE are there for OIL and there is nothing moral about that.
Afghanistan. We went there, under the auspices of getting the 'perpetrators' of 9/11. What happened? What was presented as a military incursion ended up being a full scale illegal invasion and occupation. For what? See TRANS AFGHAN NATURAL GAS PIPELINE.

The costs (as of 2010 is 1.21 trillion dollars) are unfunded additions to the annual budget. "Defense" spending is 4% of the GDP but 23% of the Federal budget. This does not take into account the impact on the national debt. This is only a contributing factor in the 'sacrifice of domestic welfare programs' I will give that to you. It does not negate the fact that it is a factor.

If our incursions were to defend basic moral decency I may have agreed with you. It is not. We have historically supported oppressive governments throughout the world as long as it was in our corporate interests. You would be hard pressed to find the same belief in the moral decency of the projection of American power in the rest of the world.

As a vet I can understand the need to provide moral justification for a son or daughters sacrifice in war or the economic impact of war. When the truth won't justify the actions why then must it be obfuscated with patriotism and moral arguments. It is like putting lipstick on a pig.

 

EMIL L POSEY

1:37 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Values vs. Interests

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.” --Declaration of Independence

American exceptionalism? Core values? While not an exclusive rationale for butting into others’ business, our foreign affairs – our urge to intervene, if you will – cannot simply ignore this core philosophical underpinning of our nation’s raison d’être and popular psyche.

 

MB2821

5:28 PM ET

April 6, 2011

An American would say we

An American would say we intervene because we feel a moral obligation, as PEOPLE, to help others in need. This is not an obligation we feel as "exceptional Americans," or because we just have to use weapons, or because our leaders are arrogant, or because we don't care about domestic programs. It is because we know that to stand by as others suffer is bad, is WRONG. And this is a sense of wrong understood all around the world.

This is a bunch of bull....There are PLENTY of people in THIS country who are suffering who have fallen through the cracks and nobody seems to give a damn about them! Ever been to Hell-A and seen how many homeless there are and the general disdain and sense of apathy most fellow citizens seem to view them with? I lived there and I know. So it's interesting that americans can feel feigned compassion for those way across the globe but haven't a pittance of sympathy for those who live right next door.

 

FALSHRMJGR

12:59 PM ET

April 7, 2011

Illegally Invaded Iraq?

I am always flabbergasted at how short our collective memories are. We invaded Iraq because they openly, notoriously, and consistently violated the terms of their surrender after the first Gulf War. We invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein was a butcher, and a regionally destabilizing state. We invaded Iraq because of the litany of violations of UN Resolutions.

The violations of his surrender alone were jus bellum.

Not to mention the fact that while he may have in fact dismantled his nuclear weapons program, chemical weapons are WMDs. And we know damn well he used WMDs on the Kurds.

Furthermore, he was playing a game of political chicken by trying to bluff the international community. He may not have HAD a Nuclear Weapons program, but his actions with regards to UN inspectors, and his shell game with inspection sites meant that we could not be 100% sure that he did not have a nuclear weapons program.

Unlike the halls of academia, where decisions are analyzed after the fact with near perfect knowledge, decisions of state have to be made based upon probabilities and potential outcomes. The potential that he did have nuclear weapons, after demonstrating his imperial aspirations, the only sane decision was to take action before a potentially horrific outcome occurred.

You are a self-proclaimed vet, and I suspect you think you are alone there. Let me ask you this: If your platoon was pinned down, and you were receiving incoming direct fire, would you return fire on the position that you BELIEVED the fire was coming from? or would you wait until you received MORE casualties to return fire? If you were the Platoon Leader, would you call for indirect fire and close air support? Or would you cower there paralyzed by fear of making a mistake? What would you want YOUR platoon leader to do?

It is easy to Monday morning quarterback the decisions of others, and it is seductive to believe in the "over-competent" government, but the fact is that decisions are made by human beings...even more chilling, decisions are made by government employees.

 

DISSIDENT

11:06 AM ET

April 14, 2011

"I have a very simple

"I have a very simple explanation for why Americans agree to enter wars.."

I don't recall Americans agreeing to bomb Libya. I don't even recall them being asked - which of course goes to Prof. Walt's point about the President usurping from Congress the power to deploy the military.

"It is because we know that to stand by as others suffer is bad, is WRONG."

Apparently it was okay to stand by during the Darfur Genocide but for some strange reason, if the "oppressed" people happen to live in an oil-rich nation, it is not okay to stand by. Surely you can recognize the hypocrisy.

As a Canadian I can only observe your country from the outside but my eyes are telling me that your nation is falling apart around your ears while your military adventures continue to suck up dollars in the trillions. Your highways are crap, your bridges are collapsing, there are areas of Detroit (to name only one city) that resemble Berlin in May of 1945.

Please remove your rose-tinted Harvard sunglasses and take a look at reality.

You have a military that is a thousand times more powerful than you require for "homeland security" or any other defense of your native soil. You seem utterly convinced that America is such a tremendous "light unto the world" that it must be not merely defended but aggressively defended - the defense being carried far beyond the borders of your land on the off chance it should be attacked by those who despise you because you have "freedom".

You are brainwashed, pure and simple, if you believe that this is the case. Bin Laden would not have given a rats ass about America were it not for your attempts to export "the American way" into Islamic countries and the massive support you lend to Israel in it's illegal conquest of Palestine. If you expect every single Arab to stand by and watch his co-religionists being incinerated by Israeli-piloted, American-made Apache helicopters you are sadly mistaken.

I do not support their violent actions, but I understand them. Unlike you, I am able to put myself in their position. Apparently this sort of empathy is not in vogue at Harvard.

 

PAPICEK

9:40 AM ET

April 23, 2011

You need to check YOUR facts...

"I am always flabbergasted at how short our collective memories are. We invaded Iraq because they openly, notoriously, and consistently violated the terms of their surrender after the first Gulf War. We invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein was a butcher, and a regionally destabilizing state. We invaded Iraq because of the litany of violations of UN Resolutions."

The invasion of Iraq was the dream of PNAC when it was formed in 1997. As for the violation of UN resolutions, it's funny that the UN never got around to actually calling for the invasion. Saddam put down two revolts (against the Kurds and against the Shia Arabs in the Basra region) in a manner which should have triggered an intervention, but in fact, they did NOT. As for the tales of daily indignities inflicted on ordinary Iraqis, they have been convincingly debunked as INC propaganda proffered by Chalabi spread by the administration and a tame press.

As for Saddam being a butcher, that applies to almost one-quarter of every nation around the world today. We live with those countries, and in the case of the Gulf states right now, are prepared to forgive and even welcome their butchery in the name of stability. So your moral indignation rings very hollow indeed.

Having made a bargain with the devil (Gate's whirlwind tour of the Gulf states ended hours before Saudi tanks rolled up the causeway into Bahrain) the moral indignation over Libya rings mighty hollow as well.

Sanctions were as far as the UNSC ever went, regardless of the violations committed by Saddam. Thus the "coalition of the willing" (a bunch of small countries bribed with US tax payer dollars) Since there was no condition requiring the US to defend itself, there was no legal justification for the war.

It was a war of aggression.

 

BRIANKBARR

11:22 PM ET

April 23, 2011

Re: The facts, the facts are looking for you.

I can agree with a few of your sentiments, living up to moral and intellectual responsibilities, aiding foreign peoples in the time of catastrophe and war. Even to the fact that "war expenditures" are not the only reason for our abysmal deficit. But I disagree with letting the American government having a lead rule in international affairs, especially at the expense of our social programs. Stephen Walt, is by no means the only person to downplay "American exceptionalism" and its "transcendent" purpose. You and Stephen only prove to me more that this is an ambiguous matter. In his case, we have been known for our absurd using "atrocities to justify atrocities". WWll for instance, we can all agree on ending fascist ideology, but to what extent can we try to justify the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, even the innocent peoples of Europe. The same goes for Vietnam. I don't even want to assault anyones intelligence by bringing up Regan in Latin America and his key role in the Middle East. Bush l, Clinton, Bush ll in the Middle East. The Palestine-Israel conflict. Thus, America should not lead the movement towards International solidarity. You simply can't deny that America has no tolerance for independent action. When it come to "Democracy promotion" we only allow it if it's on the behalf of US strategic interests, and if it's a case of independent action that goes against the US interest or "successful defiance" they will be treated accordingly. Like Haiti, Chile, Palestine, El Salvador etc.. Now "successful defiance" does not mean a direct threat to US citizens but to our Corporate hegemony. And on your behalf governments ability to rally the support of the people and create highly sophisticated committees to handle adversities. I'm sure you have many reasons, but I think I heard both sides enough.

Now to the reason why I even commented on this. I personally would love nothing more than to cut US Military spending drastically, and us it for domestic programs! Moreover even US aid when it comes to meddling with developing countries or countries at war ( i.e. Libya). When I say that I mean what the US is currently doing to promote peace. By no means do I think we shouldn't contribute to the world's problems. Then what? What do we people or countries do at the time of adversities? Well, what the public opinion of almost all member states of the UN say, leave it up to the UN with its vast amounts of charters designed for this. Now, that could be were Americans and their government come along, to help fund the UN and also International Agencies like the, IMF, World Bank, and W.T.O of course not under current management. Nonetheless agencies like them that actually fulfill its intended purpose. With that implemented we wouldn't need to be the "police" or "guardian" of the world. When you have the UN maintaining peace, and these International agencies funding developing countries, through taxes from all member states and so on.

 

DOM WYNN

6:09 AM ET

April 5, 2011

underestimating Media

Not disagreeing with the drivers but I do think a 6th driver which is merely referenced as "I've no doubt that one could add more items to this list (e.g., the passive press etc.." is actually one of the key factors. And not merely a passive press...

With rolling 24hr news the visibility of even relatively minor events in far away countries is raised. Along with that the media also operates as it's own agenda setter: 'Something terrible has happened! What can be done?!'. Before long it is no longer someone elses problem: it becomes ours.

Questions to the Whitehouse spokesman, start with 'what's the President's view' and then morph into 'When is the President going to intervene' and before you know it the whole event begins to build it's own momentum.. eventually in some situations military intervention is the natural end point of a series of self perpetuating escalations in media reporting.

Gleeful armchair generals in studios across the western world anticipate and to a large degree drive public opinion before it, and then the question is not just 'when is the president going to intervene', but more "WHY isn't the president intervening".

Mad mad world.

 

AGRICOLA

9:33 AM ET

April 5, 2011

Good point

You make a good point sir. The media does whip up support for violence.

Whether it's American intervention in libya, where once we assaulted Qaddafi we didnt know what to do, or Afghan mobs lynching infidels (who we're worked into a frenzy by their media and imams. In fact during the first rally an imam yelled out of a truck with a loud speaker "hundreds more Qurans have been burned", causing the religion of peace followers to go ape shit.) the media's of the world play off the emotions of thier audience.

The media's job is to get information out, not foster hostile opinion.

 

AGRICOLA

9:27 AM ET

April 5, 2011

Congress

I feel that the biggest factor to this is Congress. They have given up so much of their role in FP that FP seems to be conducted on a whim rather than a doctrine.

 

LEON DEINOS

9:30 AM ET

April 5, 2011

It's an addiction

Many years ago this country had a 2-party system. There were serious disagreements about foreign involvements. Since 1947 the two parties have merged into a 1.1- or possibly 1.05-party system with a strong addiction to war. Another sign of this addiction is secrecy, which has grown steadily since the "security state" was set up in the late 1940's.

"Defense" and related "security" activities now cost the country 1 trillion dollars a year. Cut that by 40 percent for ten years and you arrive at an amount equal to the congressional Republicans' deficit reduction plan. But the problem is-- the country has an addiction. Treatment facilities are nonexistent in our 1.05-party system.

 

MERLE LEFKOFF

9:48 AM ET

April 5, 2011

Reasons for America's addiction to war

6. Men love war! (See Hedges and Junger)

 

A1BATROSS

10:11 AM ET

April 5, 2011

Don't call them 'wars'

With all due respect, our military actions in Iraq and Afghanistan are not wars, and ought not be called wars. They are occupations.

Calling them 'wars' gives them undue moral weight, and helps continue them indefinitely, to the profit of our arms industry and at the expense of our nation (to say nothing of theirs). Calling them 'wars' justifies infringing on civil rights. And since wars must be won or lost, the 'wars' in Iraq and Afghanistan can never end, because we don't have an enemy to defeat.

Occupations, on the other hand, are mean little things that justify no curtailment of civil rights. And occupations can only be ended, they are not won.

So please, call these occupations. And call our foreign policy in the Mideast what it is: the imperialism of a dying nation.

 

KXB

10:48 AM ET

April 5, 2011

George Carlin - 1991

"Well, we like war. We like war, we are war like people. We like war, because we are good at it. You know why we are good at it? Because we did a lot of practice. This country is only 200 years old and already we have had 10 major wars. We average a major war every 20 years in this country, so we are good at it! And that is good thing we are, we are not very good in anything else anymore. Can't built a decent car, can't make a TV set or VCR where the fuck. Got no steel industry left, can't educate our young people can't get health care for our old people, but we can bomb the shit out of your country alright?! Especially if your country is full of brown people. Oh, we like that, don't we? That's our hobby! That's our new job in the world, bombing brown people! Iraq, Panama, Granada, Libya, you got some brown people in your country, tell them to watch the fuck out or we will god damn bomb them! Well, when is the last white people you can remember that we bombed. Can you remember the last white people? Can you remember any white people, we have ever bombed? The Germans! Those are the only ones and that is only because they were trying to cutting in our action."

 

CHECKMOOT

11:39 AM ET

April 5, 2011

You missed one

Remember the Serbs ?? Sort of un-grateful considering the Croats and Albanians supported Germany and the Serbs fought on our side in WW-ll.

 

JSRYANJR

11:22 AM ET

April 5, 2011

Our Evolution

1. A previous comment mentioned the role of idealism in U.S. overseas military adventures, and indeed Prof. Walt might consider the range of attitudes that appears to motivate U.S. foreign policy as described by Walter Russel Mead in his book "Special Providence."

2. When Prof. Walt says "The United States started out as 13 small and vulnerable colonies clinging to the east coast of North America," he appears to be describing the early, religiously motivated colonization of the 1600s. By the mid 1700s, the English colonies had massively evolved and were a populous and expansionary force. The westward and overseas movement of the 1800s was a linear continuation of the French and Indian War.

3. In addition to the creation of a large standing army in 1945 (Prof. Walt's reason no. 1), another recent development that further predisposes the U.S. to military adventures is the unification in the late 1970s of the military's home region (the old Confederacy) with its political party (the Republican Party).

 

TIKTOKKLOK

11:25 AM ET

April 5, 2011

The Elephant in the Room

This FP article is ignoring the elephant in the room: the ONLY reason the United States is always waging war, exports weapons and violence around the world and props up brutal dictatorships is to prop up its obscene, vicious, inhumane and utterly failed capitalist economics. America's wars feed the military-industrial complex Eisenhower warned us against which in turn feeds the 1% ruling class who currently hold dictatorial control of the united states. These pigs sacrifice our young in illegal, unnecessary and immoral wars, murder tens of millions of innocents throughout the world and are parasites on the backs of workers everywhere. The capitalists have made the U.S. into a rogue nation that will suffer total economic collapse ala the Soviet Union, be put down and destroyed by foreign powers as the mad dog it is, or, hopefully, will be forged into a new socialist nation in the flames of revolution against its ruling class by the American people.

 

CHECKMOOT

11:35 AM ET

April 5, 2011

Absolutely

If we didn't use all those expensive military toys, show a little bloodshed to the taxpayer, they might decide to stop paying for them. That would not do.

 

FERCHO

12:07 PM ET

April 5, 2011

one better than Bush

Bush advocated preemptive war for self defense. Obama has bested him by calling for preemptive war to defend OTHER people. Well done.

 

NATEOMC

12:20 PM ET

April 5, 2011

 

CARDENAS697

12:19 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Very good article

I think this is great article but I want to give an alternate view on your 5 points

1) “Because we can.” Your right to many times we use war as a mean to solve there problems in the world. But sometime war is the only tool available to solve the problem. Case in point Rwandan Genocide in1994 the mass murder of an estimated 800,000 people. I truly think that had the United Nations or United States sent in the military we would never have had such atrocities occur.
2) “The US has no serious enemies.” Sure we do. Don’t assume that the next enemy is going to land a military force on New York City and take over the country. Warfare is no longer symmetrical and in fact to expensive to fight in that style. Warfare will be Asymmetrical computer virus will infect a network. You weaken the economy of your enemy you will weaken the military it supports. Death by 1000 small cuts.
3) “The All-Volunteer Force. “ I don’t know if this applies but Israel has won just about every military war it has been involved and they are quick to start a military action. I think it should be looked into don’t you.
4) “It's the Establishment, Stupid.” The establishment has always been stupid nothing new their. I mean give me a break I can honestly count when the establishment got it right. Maybe we should make it mandatory reading for every elected official Sun Tzu’s Art of War.
5) “Congress Has Checked Out.” That’s the easy response they have checked out. But let’s be clear on this issue so has the rest of our country. One of the greatest technological powers of this country was the information superhighway. It’s because of this technology and the media that people our more informed but the information is more false. Their use to be a time when news was Who, What When Where, Why and How, now we get our news from opinion news casters that deliver what they believe is true and use spin to deliver the message so is it true or is it spin.

 

SCRUFFY SCIROCCO

1:26 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Very well said, except. . .

I notice a tendency to blame the right a lot in your writing. Let me tell you that there's a large group on the right that are just as dismayed by the abuse of military projection into conflicts that do not affect our national interests as you are. Circulate a little more, develop some conservative friends, and balance your perspective.

 

GLADROB

2:11 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Kidding Yourself

Sorry to point out the obvious, but that 'large group' you are referring to is, in reality, very very very very tiny. And moreover, anyone who belongs to this mythical group of yours has most definitely been pushed out of any position of power. So called "Conservatives who believe there is a balance" could easily be number 7 or 8 on this list.

 

AURELIUS

10:35 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Left, Right, and War

Scruffy does hint at a legitimate point in the sense that, as Mearshimer has so articulately pointed, liberal imperialists are not very different from neo-conservatives. It is worth nothing that for three regimes in a row, we have had one or the other, even given party variation.

In truth, the neo-conservatives have become by far the dominant voice on the right. In terms of print journalism, for example, the once paleo-conservative/libertine National Review is now nearly as neo-con as Commentary. In that sense, you are correct that those who are willing to make fast and lose use of the military – the neo cons - dominate the right.

A few points are worth nothing, however:

- It is not clear that liberal imperialists are any less dominant on in the mainstream left. Remember, it was Bill Clinton’s Secretary of State who spoke of us as “the indispensable nation” that “stands taller and sees further.” In the sense that they are just slightly more timid about the use of force, the liberal imperialists are a bit better, but only by a hardly perceptible variation in a shade of the same colour.

- Some of the most thoughtful, least knee-jerk opposition to militarism has actually either come from or been published by real conservatives. Outside of scholarly journals, for example, The American Conservative has published nearly as much of Mearshimer’s work as any left wing magazine.

- On the note of “real conservatives,” it is tough to make the case that there is anything conservative about the neo-cons in the sense of the long-standing tradition of conservatives that dates from thinkers like Russell Kirk back to John Adams and Edmund Burke. They may be “right wing,” but the “neo” is an oxymoron to the “conservative” in both name and actual policy. There is another robust if smaller movement on the right that might disagree with Walt on domestic policy but would see eye to eye on much foreign policy.

 

SMARMONK

7:24 PM ET

April 7, 2011

Interesting comments

I have been reading the comments on this article with interest. I believe we are disposed to War and that disposition goes back to the not entirely secret decision to eliminate the indigenous people in this country. Remember Manifest Destiny in your history classes. Manifest Destiny, the dominate political philosphy for much of the 19th C held that we had not only the ability but the God given right to keep expanding. That turned into other arguments to justify our behavior (very bad) in other countries, which worsened after WWII. Manifest Destiny evolved into the Domino Theory and Cold War. Someone mentioned Eisenhower....he coined the term military industrial complex...and he was what I call a Consitutional conservative.

I myself find the whole debate in this country over right and left fascinating...our political spectrum is truly limited when compared to Europe. They find our concept of Left a joke...and being very far left (which does sometimes cause me to stand with Constitutional Conservatives). In reality, there is no Left in the this country. I'm not sure quite what to call them...moderate conservatives with progressive leanings?

To come back to the point about all these wars. The world has changed profoundly. Most of it is really run by multi-national corporations whose only allegiance is to profit. If you do not believe me, take a close look at what happened to the Health Bill...the only thing the insurance companies really lost was denying people membership for pre-exisiting conditions. The rest of it is such a morass of give aways to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies it is both difficult to read and, frankly, trash. I suspect many Constitutional Conservatives would agree with me....I even know some who support socialized medicine. There are those of us on the far left and the moderate right who even believe human health should not be a way to make a profit.

The huge amount of spending on the military is a result of close ties between members of Congress and the miltary industrial lobby. And any attempt to cut that is met with what I call fear-talk about an inablity to defend ourselves, blah-blah-blah.

This is not turning out as well-though out as I wished (my dissertation, done quite some time ago was an rebuttal of the neo-conservative view of the Constitution). I also spent some time debating the psuedo-science they used to prove White people and Asian had the highest IQs. Such an old and silly way for them to spend their time!)

1) We are a republic, based on Rome, not a democracy. This was an issue of much debate during the ratification of the Constitution. It nearly did not pass except for the promise to write the Bill of Rights. Many opponents argued congently that the power given the excutive would lead to undeclared wars. If interested, look up the Anti-Federalist Brutus...

2) The act of colonizing this country was an act of war. It did NOT belong to the Europeans or the US citizens who took land from Native peoples on the grounds they were not cultivating it. Look where it has taken us...the US consumes the equivalnent of three planets and we are exporting that concept of consumption as duty like a drug to other countries. If this continues, we won't have an Earth anymore...we will reduce our beautiful blue and green planet to a desert.

3) Look at the mythology of the Old West...men engaging in shoot outs, women with hearts of gold (prostitutes), and good women who knew their place. That mythology runs very deep within the psyche of citizens of both European and African descent. The violence of the Old West and the men who greatness of the men who settled (read comitted genocide against Native peoples...millions died.) John Wayne, where are you????

4) Wars in this century, with the exception of WWII, have all been based on the expansion of Empire, but with the modern twist of multinational capitalism. There will be more wars until we either revolt against the multinationalist as a world or they destroy everything.

 

BEAUTI92

1:31 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Money and power

Great article! It's always been about money, power..and yes ego! What I would love to know are the certain people that are for this; I wish the author could provide the names.

 

RAFFA657

2:03 PM ET

April 5, 2011

America addicted to war

Great article.
There is a saying that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Our so called democracy is really a plutocracy that has infiltrated our businesses, military industrial complex, and our government.
Now that we have an empire, the powers that be want to maintain it.
Therefore, war is essential to keep those at bay who may threaten it.

 

UNQLEFUNGUS

2:06 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Addicted?

No way. We only bomb things for recreation. We can quit anytime we want. It's under conbtrol.

 

WHISKEYPAPA

2:09 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Federalist Papers

In one of the Federalist Papers, Madison says, "Ambition must be made to counter ambition." That is, Congress will protect its perogatives against the executive, one of course being the right to start wars.

But every elected official is so fat now, they just acquiesce as the ideas in the Constitution go down the toilet.

And the author says it a bit differently, but when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

And our only export now is death. We have to hammer everything that comes along.

They should change the name of the DoD to 'Department of Death'.

Walt

 

CA GUY

2:10 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Fundamental Reason

Lurking beneath those five is this: The US wants to maintain its waning economic and military dominance of the world so we can maintain our gluttonous consumption at home.

The days of blue-collar parents having a big house, two cars, an RV, a boat, sending their four kids to college, a comfy retirement with lots of travel home and abroad, and helping their grown kids and their kids financially are gone. That reality has been dawning on Americans as a population.

 

GLADROB

2:18 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Good point.

These gluttons will continue right up until the time when America is quietly signed over to China by a future Republican President. And the noisy conservative right will spend the rest of their lives screaming about why the Democrats didn't stop it.

 

MARGA

6:43 AM ET

April 7, 2011

Addicted to War

Who are you talking about. The average income of US Family of 4 is $ 50,000. I want to see what you are talking about. The USA has the most billionaires, and the rest of the country suffers, living payday to payday, wages stagnant, no benefits. You see Europeans travel the world, we can't do that. In fact, most workers ask to work their time of annual leave of one week because they need the money. Full time jobs are a thing of the past as we have a new employment category, which is called "intermittent - 3 to 19 hours a week." 80% of retail and food are in this. Home Depot and Lowe's laid off their department managers and hired part time employees and the CEO is getting another 5% pay raise. Geez, don't eat your own and put the blame where it belongs. Yes, we are addicted to war, we are the bully with super weaponry but deny that we kill civilians.
Vietnam, 13 million killed, this outdid Hitler but no one talks about it!

 

SHEZULIA

3:15 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Revisiting your first reason

Anyway, I wanted to revisit the first reason you mentioned and sort of shrugged off the idea of American Exceptionalism. While I do not subscribe to the popular lore of the American values being exceptional, I believe that as still the sole superpower in the world, America does have some responsibilities.

One of these responsibilities is to answer an internationally popular cry for help. Libya is an example of one such event where the "collective conscience" of the international community is forced to act.
America, as the sole superpower has adopted a sort of "social contract" with the rest of the world where for the guarantee of international stability, the countries of the world devolves certain powers and "allows" America to be the proud hegemon.

This hegemony is largely predictable and therefore secure for the functions of society. America is allowed certain transgressions like profiting from this responsibility through lucrative foreign business opportunities like in the Arab world. Other transgressions like the illegal war in Iraq are condemned but that is a far as the international community would take it as it needs America to enforce the “social contract” and to prevent anarchy.
Now, as the situation in Libya grew dire, the international community’s “collective conscience” was under attack. The news media focused on the Libyan state’s perversely aggressive policies against its own people and the imminent danger of atrocities on a genocidal scale. As the light shone on the international community, it had no choice but to act and demonstrate to themselves the humanity in their civilizations.

The world now turns to the hegemon to carry out its part of the contract thus the EU, UN, OIC and the Arab League attempt to persuade President Obama to intervene and present the humane and caring face of our civilization. This is done so you and I can feel good about ourselves, feel good about the fact that we care about humanity, that we are good people.

Therefore, it is in America’s interest as it is for any Leviathan to fulfill its obligations and preserve this “social contract” and in turn maintain its hegemony in the world.

 

MARGA

6:45 AM ET

April 7, 2011

Addicted to War

Funny, we are only interferring in countries who have oil. We could not careless about Darfur, and now this other African Country, that already killed 100,000. Why are our soldiers in Angola, because it has oil! Amazing.

 

PUBLICUS

4:49 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Unique democracy

Democracy was a radical idea in 1776 and when the Constitution was written and adopted in 1789. Ever since we've been fighting Old World monarchs and families of monarchies interconnected vertically among countries; emperors, dynasties of emperors, fascist dictators and communist totalitarians. We've been busy little bees defending our democracy, our First Amendment and Constitutional rule of law, our way of life to prosperity, our belief in science, equality, feminist, human rights, technology, secularism, economic and personal intellectual development and a good old slap on the back hello instead of throwing ourselves at the feet of some Old World throwback monarch, Middle East tyrant or Beijing censoring reactionary dictatorship. Gadhafi is one of a long line of tyrants who sooner or later get as they deserve.

America's burden, if you will.

 

MRDENTON

5:53 PM ET

April 5, 2011

One reason: Resources such as oil

So you go through the reasons one by one hoping to find where Oil or access to resources is mentioned. And you fail miserably.

At least we did not see a "Going to war in order to spread peace and democracy".

 

JORDANKPHILLIPS

5:58 PM ET

April 5, 2011

So where's the book?

I wanted to write my master's thesis on this question of why we just love costly, low-return wars, but I had a hard time finding a way to frame it, especially in a realist way. I think one of the big structural realists needs to tackle seriously the question of what happens if you succeed. Mearsheimer writes in "Tragedy of Great Power Politics" that all states want regional hegemony but aren't supposed to be able to get it, and then doesn't predict what would happen if a great power got lucky and pulled it off. I think we really need some solid work done on the "what's next?" after that. I don't think structure gets you there - I think we need the human nature/neoclassical realists to finish the job, but maybe there's some universally applicable maxim to help make sense of all this insanity. I just hope someone clever gets to work on the problem.

 

JORDANKPHILLIPS

6:08 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Let me revise that...

JJM does say that if you get to be a regional hegemon, you'll try to suppress potential peer competitors. But since that's not what's happening (we're not seriously balancing against China; we are burning resources in the Middle East), then clearly we're still missing something big. There are some parallels with European (especially British) forays into the periphery during the imperial era. What's the pattern? What's the driver? Why worry about Iraq/Afghanistan over China, or Afghanistan/South Africa over Germany?

 

NENAD.V.POPOVIC

6:06 PM ET

April 5, 2011

a sixth reason?

As stated in the article, of course there are many more reasons to indulge in war, especially for a country like the US. I would like to contribute with just one, because I live in one of a number of countries that will have to live with the consequences for many centuries after the "official" hostilities have ended.
Welcome to the issue of depleted uranium. Nuclear waste (e.g. from nuclear disarmament) can only be degraded to a certain point. The indestructable residue, such as depleted uranium, has to be containerized and transported at enormous cost, both in terms of money and designated condemned land.
It makes so much more economic sense to just send the stuff off to faraway countries in the form of military ordinance and munitions. All that needs doing is to demomize selected target countries, and such war crimes become not only acceptable, but also desirable.
The quantities of depleted uranium generated in nuclear armed countries is enourmous, and obviously require perpetual wars for their didposal, with no mushroom clouds to cause unecessary alarm and dissapproval.

 

DAVIDZWEIG

8:06 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Reason 6 should be reason 1

Try this on: it's immensely profitable. The US spends more on arms than the rest of the world combined, and exports more arms than the rest of the world combined. Soon, probably 60% of our discretionary budget.

 

WILDTHING

8:16 PM ET

April 5, 2011

do what we do best

We are so dysfunctional at home we have a duty to spread it around the rest of the world... addicted to war in all our domestic institutions we have to do it as an international form of spreadin gour love of weapons to them and their loved ones as well... it is what we come out of WWII with the SuperMan Complex but even superman was a bumbling sort of ovezealous police state of a man... the thing is we believe our Hollywood war propaganda way too much and the false profit of war.

 

MRJS1G

2:38 AM ET

April 6, 2011

Oversimplification

Your comment reeks of a lack of knowledge in both foreign and domestic policy. No nuances, just cliched phrases spouted out because you've heard it said before. Very superficial arguments with no sense of direction.

Before we can have a discussion, please phrase some coherent contentions so there is something to discuss. The grammar and structure of your sentences are extremely poor, and I do not wish to respond to something you haven't stated and cause additional confusion.

Thanks.

 

DR. SARDONICUS

8:43 PM ET

April 5, 2011

Are humans addicted to war? And we merely the best junkies?

Is America addicted to war? Is a Bengal Tiger, free to roam its home ecology, addicted to aggression?

There is a universal dialectic in history, but not the one you think. This dialectic does not shift between the proletarian centralization of production versus the bourgeois monopoly of surplus wealth. Mere clerical details and bean counter quibbling. No, the universal dialectic is and has always been between guns and butter. What you dismiss so airily in your article and I fear would dismiss as follows.

What do you want? A free, argumentative and well-educated population benefiting from the very best infrastructure, justice system, culture and public health possible (very vulnerable militarily)? Or do you want – in the sacred name of National Security – to optimize the following formula: (body count times distance) over time squared? Ultimately, that weapon formula calls for an enslaved, gagged and narrow-minded population whose infrastructure, justice, etc. systems are expendable trade-offs at best – either direct casualties of strategic warfare or cumulatively sacrificed to weapon priorities. See the USA, circa 2011. The two elements of this dialectic: peace mentality/technology/mythology and weapon m/t/m, are each self-reinforcing but mutually contradictory and antinomial.

Oil and water. Cats and dogs. Affluent and affable vulnerability versus lean and hungry Nazism. Pick one, but be careful what you choose.

Historical civilization can be resumed as five thousand years of Darwinian selection in favor of weapons nations that destroyed and replaced any peaceful equivalents, as well as less-developed weapon nations. We, as individuals, and the United States, as a nation, are the ultimate evolutionary output of this historic arms race. Congratulations! We have optimized the weapon formula: nukes, biological warfare and all our exquisite weapon technologies and crypto-militarist social systems.

Check it out: (body count x distance) / time squared. We rock!

The last major paroxysm of this permanent global arms race was the destruction of National Socialism and its international proxies by the alliance of National Communism and National Capitalism. Followed by the expiration of No. 2 in favor of No. 3, which is presently collapsing from identical internal contradictions, since the only goal of all three has always been the optimization of the weapon formula, at the expense and to the cumulative destruction of every material good and every social value of peace.

That is what “antinomial” means: mutually destructive, inimical and contradictory on every dimension.

As part of your mandatory weapon indoctrination (as universal and subliminal as potty training – we’re talking the end-result of four thousand years of cultural conditioning) you have been programmed to pay lip service to peace (guaranteed fruitlessly), to worship weapons in secret (subliminally potent), and to dismiss any attempt to study this dialectic objectively (ritual stupidity).

What’s more, Western Civilization is hair-trigger-rigged against World Peace. For the first time in history, we dispose of all the communications systems, mutual recognition and will to peace that every prior society lacked (making peace a hollow and deadly joke for them, as well as for us – see what follows). But if the meme virus of peace ever makes use of these newfound tools to spread throughout global populations and inspire them to dismantle weapon equivalents across the planet and institute an Era of World Peace, that revolution will be labeled “the reign of the Antichrist” and resisted to the death by fundamentalist Christianity and Islam combined. Checkmate. Pick your favorite mass extinction event.

We have met Tolkien’s Orcs in the real world, and they are us. Now tell me, good and faithful friend, is America addicted to war?

 

STANGMARK

3:06 AM ET

April 6, 2011

america

if one studies and pays close attention to the history of the world and america's place in it, one can easily see the trend towards america's constant involvement in war-like activities and why. it's not just us. although independence was likely attainable, it was made easier through france's assistance; mainly due to france being at war with england and anything that hurt eng. helped france. war was the way of the industrialized world; for whatever reason---mostly the aquisition of more power for power's sake cloaked in the cloak of securing a more secure nation-state. at the turn of the 20th century america tried the isolationist route---it didnt work out. drawn into wwI by germany and wwII by japan; korea and vietnam by the fear of the spread of communism (russian/chinese powere); and recently the m.e. by the fear of terrorist nation-states; we find ourselves faced with 2 distinct choices---withdraw from the international community and wait to be attacked or proactively induce democracy wherever the opportunity provides. the former has proven the poorer of the two choices. the latter (as much as any sane human being abhors war) has shown itself to slowly but surely leading to a world of nation-states in which the process of the people choosing their leaders/government means peace with those nation-states. maybe in my lifetime (and i pray in my children's) power competition will be economic and the need for a military will be purely for the defense of each sovereign nation-states universally recognized borders; but until such a utopian time exists, i feel individuals enjoying the freedom of democracy are obligated toward providing said freedom's at every available opportunity through whatever means necessary. although there is no doubt peaceful mediation is preferred: "some people, you just cant reason with." ghadafi could have stepped down---after tunisia and egypt it should have been obvious international support was there for passive regime change; and that after the taliban and hussein declined to step down what the international response would be.
never forget: americans who supported declaring war on germany in 1937 were considered war-hawks.

 

WINGGY CHOW

3:27 AM ET

April 6, 2011

We should say NO to aggressive wars but say YES to R2P

"Although everyone recognizes that Qaddafi is a brutal ruler, his forces did not conduct deliberate, large-scale massacres in any of the cities he has recaptured, and his violent threats to wreak vengeance on Benghazi were directed at those who continued to resist his rule, not at innocent bystanders. "

What do you mean by this?
The people who opposed to a brutal ruler and fight for their freedom and rights are not eligible to be protected?? and you call them "not at innocent"???
How many people are killed can be defined as "large-scale" massacres???
Your tone is ridiculous!

If US is strong enough to fight a war for the sake of the responsibility to protect (R2P), even it is not within US border and mostly "on behalf of other people", why not?? If you have this power, you should take the responsiblity and you should protect!!!!!!

All the best to all of the US servicemen.

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

7:03 AM ET

April 6, 2011

Addiction?

Speculation on whether America is addicted to war is meaningless since America is exactly and only what Americans collectively think it is. Only by stepping outside your status as an American can you take an objective view but then you must presumably construct and apply your own, or borrow another’s, set of beliefs and values because the notion that that US values are universal is patently not true; there are similarities with other peoples’ values, of course, but they are not one and the same.

The occasions when what is uttered by individuals, or spokespersons representing nations etc., actually corresponds to their actions are rare enough to qualify as accidental, and the invocation of humanitarian notions to justify action or inaction is a mantra as fanciful as invoking Jehovah or Christ. There never was a right or wrong thing to do with regard to Afghanistan, Iraq or Libya and to imagine there might have been is to confuse morality, which is the laws and institutions of the country in which one lives, with wisdom, which is a post eventum judgement.

The perfectly valid question whether the US tends to dispense too much substance on military adventures is better answered by simple consideration of the balance sheet than speculations drawn from psychotherapy.

 

STALBANS17

10:32 AM ET

April 6, 2011

Ethical journalism?

> the Libyan crusade

Unfortunate choice of adjective - or is it deliberate? Calling US action a crusade tends to allow people with limited education and narrow world-views (or is that the singular) to view it in terms of the enemies of God acting against the chosen people of God, and thus all infidels must be killed, and cannot possibly be nice people.

> am not saying that the AVF is a bad idea that should be chucked, as there are a number of good arguments in its favor

One of them being personal liberty, perhaps? Did not imagine that a Western intellectual would couch an opinion in such terms.

> I've no doubt that one could add more items to this list (e.g., the passive press, the military-industrial complex, etc.),.....

Then why are they not added? The stipulated reason ("but the items already noted go a long way to explaining...") is not acceptable. A little ironic that one of them is "a passive press" - can it be that the press does not wish to take on other parts of the press? The famed "military-industrial" complex? Do you reckon that this complex might pay journalists not to delve too deeply into their operations?

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

1:07 PM ET

April 6, 2011

Is no one willing to throw the book at the American people?

No, it is not necessary. The world will quieten down, or not, in its own good time.

 

MB2821

3:13 PM ET

April 6, 2011

it's interesting that the

it's interesting that the his-story of this country was santitized and the lil matter of kidnap & enslavement for 250+ years of africans was left out of your article. This country was founded on violence and as a british colony was also a penal colony--british undesirables and prisoners were offered a one way ticket to the 'new world' in exchange for their freedom. The moral compass for this nation was broken from the beginning. Didn't have a chance.

 

SKANDERBEG

3:37 PM ET

April 6, 2011

Is Stephen Walt Addicted to Stephen Walt?

That'd be a "yes."

There is something so pure about academic arrogance. It is self-importance in its most base, inconsequential form - a distillation of 'better-than-thou' untainted by responsibility, religion or ethics. It is a deep inhalation of the still Olympian air of intellectual indifference; a wholesale, relaxed indifference to consequences resulting from wrongness, a prideful indifference only concealable in the vast vacuous halls of the secular vatican that is Academia.

Cardinal Walt continues his most able service to the dogma, never quite aware that his greatest fear has long occurred, never aware that he isn't leading the crusade, never aware that he is perfectly, irrevocably, harmless.

 

JOHNRDKIDD

5:21 PM ET

April 6, 2011

America, WMD, war and foreign regimes

It started as long ago as the death of Jack Kennedy, in 1963. Once he had been so tragically assassinated by Oswald, Israel stepped up its covert plans to build a secret nuclear weapons facility in the Negev desert.

Fast-forward nearly 50 years, and Israel is now estimated to be the 4th most powerful nuclear-armed state on the planet - thanks to the covert collusion of successive US administrations in a political scam known as 'nuclear ambiguity'.

Only now the American government has lost control of the situation and the balance of power has shifted. The consequence is that the US has now no option but to fund a plethora of foreign regimes, dictatorships and failed states - such as Egypt, Iraq and Pakistan in order to satisfy those with vested interests in oil and weapons of mass destruction.

America has lost the war, and the plot, and must send its troops to wherever they are demanded. The end game is becoming apparent.

 

DISSIDENT

12:48 PM ET

April 14, 2011

Glad someone finally said it...

I imagine the conversation would go something like this:

[ring ring]
Aide: Mr. President, Israel is on the phone.

Pres: [sotto voce: shit!] Hello?

Israel: Oi! Mr. President, these Arabs are such a pain in the keester! I hate to tell you this, but they are threatening to "de-stabilize the region" again.

Pres: [sigh] Again? I mean, come on! Are you sure? It's getting so there's "a new Hitler" almost every week. My army can't take much more of this.

Israel: I ask you - would I call if it wasn't serious? What do you take me for - some kind of putz?!? I'm telling you there is a new Hitler and he's de-stabilizing the region. Of course,[pause for effect] I guess we could consider using our nuclear option.....

Pres: No no....uh...no...that's fine, that's fine. Let's just calm down a little. Now, let's see...Yes, I suppose we could spare a few thousand of our boys.

Israel: Oi-vay! Phew! I was hoping you'd say that. Shalom. Bye for now!

[click]

Pres: [to aide] Uh...get me the secretary of defense. ASAP.

 

PUBLICUS

7:39 PM ET

April 6, 2011

Take a break

This topic seems to have degenerated into the aimless and wandering meanderings of the new lost generations.

65 comments within 48 hours of the original article appearing have left the field to those who make commentary that is unfocused, didactic, unthemed and frankly speaking vacuous.

 

JOHNRDKIDD

1:03 AM ET

April 7, 2011

Methinks you should listen more closely to Professor Walt!

He is an academic voice untainted by personal or financial investment in derivatives, oil, guns, missiles, cluster bombs, tanks or chemical weapons of mass destruction. He deserves more considered attention.

 

ANCIENTWISDOM

1:26 AM ET

April 7, 2011

supposed addiction to war

If you are a hammer, everything looks like a nail, and the U.S, military is the biggest hammer. When I lived in New York one of that city's agencies had one function: to dam up valleys upstate for increasing the city's water supply. What did they do? What they were hired to do. As soon as one valley had been dammed up, they started damming up another. Yes, the military/industrial/congressional complex plays a big role, especially with military projects spread to as many congressional districts as possible. When John Stockwell was about to resign in disgust from the CIA he was offered a promotion to a rank equivalent to an army major general, with a seat on the NSA. He accepted, figuring this was his chance to see the big picture. What was the big picture: The CIA's role is to keep as much of the world as possible destabilized so as to maximize the market for the U.S. arms industry. You can get some insight into this from the documentary film Why We Fight. Killing alleged enemies makes money for the fat cats. I don't hate capitalism, but I'm fed up with the kind of capitalism that sees every living thing as something to trash for money, and you and I are among those living things. The people we (collectively) kill are ordinary human beings just like us. Read The Man He Killed, by Thomas Hardy. Read Mark Twain's The Private History of a Campaign That Failed. Forcing the people who make war to fight in those wars would quickly reduce the temptation to wage wars.

 

SBAHOUR

1:46 AM ET

April 7, 2011

Is it still a question?

http://www.addictedtowar.com/book.html

 

JOHNRDKIDD

3:10 AM ET

April 7, 2011

The US arms industry that keeps the killing machine alive.

@ANCIENTWISDOM

"The CIA's role is to keep as much of the world as possible destabilized so as to maximize the market for the U.S. arms industry."

Absolutely! And who owns that industry? Who benefits directly and indirectly?

 

MANJ2000

4:56 AM ET

April 7, 2011

Not in case of Libya

I am not an American and as others around the world, I too think Americans didn't do their homework right before invading Iraq. However I disagree with the author when he calls Libya a crusade. Infact, supporting Libya is the only sensible thing Americans have done in a while now.

Obama made sure that the mistakes were not repeated by waiting for the UN resolution and that the europeans(who were yelling on Gadaffi the most) were equally involved & they dont chicken out in the middle.

 

FRANCKROADS

7:24 AM ET

April 7, 2011

Adicted?

I don't think so, but I believe America is cleverly & constantly egged into it by deviously wise "partners" deeply interested in gains of all kind but not wanting to shoulder the blames of how they are acquired, so they push it on America's well conditioned & receptively convenient back.

Wake Up America

 

TAHARRIS

10:22 PM ET

April 7, 2011

America Addicted to War? No! M/I/B/SS complex is addicted to $

I think it's not so much a question of America being addicted to war, most seem to be absolutely sick of the idea. I think it's really a case of perception: the American public has been 'managed' by the US government into paying the costs of war in human lives, tax dollars, etc. while there's another class that reaps enormous financial benefits. Another 'perception management' operation is that it makes some sort of difference who is elected to the presidency. The overwhelming evidence is that in the long run, it doesn't matter one whit. Eisenhour issued the warning at the end of his term in office. Americans, perhaps too exhausted or frightened to really listen to his sage advice and take back the reigns of Democracy back from the Military/Industrial complex (now the Military/Industrial/Banking/Security State complex) are now reaping the whirlwind. Since the Security Agencies can operate illegally without valid oversight and then claim 'National Security' is at stake when an investigation actually does get too close that threatens to expose what they've done, then they resort to murder and all the issues fade to black.

 

SHAZIAH7

1:04 AM ET

April 9, 2011

america addicted to war

good comment, fully agree with you

 

AUTHORT

11:32 PM ET

April 7, 2011

Multiple personality disorder,...

http://2ndcreation.blogspot.com/2011/03/wadayra-ka-baita.html, this piece was written with our perspective, and with changing perception about US in our world...

 

SHAZIAH7

1:08 AM ET

April 9, 2011

Wadairy ka Baita

meaning son of a landlord:) reflects the attitudes and perceptions of america and yet the worlds super power is unable to see what is coming!

 

PUBLICUS

8:00 AM ET

April 8, 2011

Exceptionalism

The US Constitution, the first eight amendments especially, read very differently from any other constitution whether written or not. The First Amendment reads almost uniquely among constitutions or the "basic law" of that or another country. The United States consequently has found itself at odds with a lot of Old World societies, cultures, traditions, customs, values, mores. Saddam is not the kind of guy hospitable towards the United States, the same was true of Hitler and the same is true of bin Laden to name a few. The CCP fascists in Beijing with their CCP-State-Corporate-Military Complex are certain the United States is a flash in the pan of history.

The United States merely by its existence over the past 222+ years (March 4th 1789 the new USA Government met for the first time) creates enemies beginning with the Bourbon kings of France and Britian's King George III to most recently _________________________ (fill in the blank space, which I deliberately abbreviated by 4000 space ticks on my keyboard).

Afghanistan is a direct reaction to September 11, 2001 and Iraq is an overreaction to it. The Korean Conflict (1950-53) and the Vietnam Era (1965-75) were creatures of the Cold War. The Soviet Union and its war machine had its own Afghanistan (I think ours is a much better cause and lesson).

Pres Eisenhower's farewell speech originally referred to the "Congresional-Military-Industrial Complex" but aides persuaded Ike to leave Congress out of it lest democracy itself seem corrupted. Ike was right and the fact he'd been a general who won the biggest war ever (on the European side of it) gives him specific authority and credibility to identify Congress as a culprit/perp.

However, we could have continued WW2 against the Soviet Russians, as Gen Patton had demanded, or end the fighting war in favor of a nerve wracking Cold War. We chose the latter which created cause of great concern to Ike. Well the USSR finally collapsed of its own dead weight but along came al Qaeda which gave Bush "the war president" the unmissed opportunity to resurrect Ike's foremost issue, i.e., the institutionalized war machine.

Pres Obama is keeping things in this respect under control. Pres Obama and Sec Gates have cut the Pentagon's budget radically and extensively. We're getting out of Iraq, we have a time limited mission in Afghanistan; we've joined in a restrained involvement with our allies and the Arab League in Lybia. This is the natural and normal consequence to the United States of consciously being the United States of America.

 

TPW

3:08 PM ET

April 8, 2011

Libya

The author by focusing on the big picture (history, ideology, structure, etc.) omits the evolving international discussion around the duty to protect. Formed in the aftermath of Rwarda, Bosnia, etc. the question the international community has been grappling with is how to prevent the gruesome massacre of civilian populations in the face of brutal dictators.

What the Obama administration has done is participate in this discussion - something the unilateralist Bush Administration was incapable of doing or at least incapable of talking to anyone beyond puppets and shadows.

This is a "new" venture and with anything of its sort may well be a matter of trial and error.

The other issue pro-miliarists must grapple with is why the "duty to protect" is most likely invoked when economic interests are at stake (Europe's dependence on Libyan oil in this case) but not in other situations like Darfur for example.

 

SHAZIAH7

12:52 AM ET

April 9, 2011

America addicted to War

Good article and good to see so many responses that support the article. With the great game and the need to secure energy rich points along with supporting the big military industry, yes america seems to be in power simply because its the only world power. But the question is do all american's favour war or like any third world country the citizens are hostage to few manics!

 

CHAMBERLAIN SYNDROME

4:16 AM ET

April 9, 2011

Wrong Question Professor !

This is not rocket science and we do not need superior-qualified professors of Harvard to intellectualise what the US has been doing for the last 100 years.

The correct question, Professor, is 'Is the World Addicted to Producing Aggressive Undemocratic Tyrant Leaders?'

To which the answer i unequivocally 'Yes'.

The USA dealt with Hitler. The USA dealt with Russia. It tried to deal with communist tyranny in South East Asia. It tried the same in Korea. Did George Bush make absolutely certain Saddam Hussein could not filter WMD to violent extremists who would use them against USA and the West ? Damned right he did (the fact that there were no stockpiles of WMD is not really relevant to the decision to invade, and in any event Saddam possessed 'dual use' facilities which could convert to a WMD programme at the flick of a switch - unless you think Donal Rumsfeld lied in his book 'Known and Unknown'?),

All you liberal United States citizens should get a grip and understand what is going on in the world. The New Hitler is busily building nuclear weapons and enriching uranium in Natanz (Iran, if you hadn't worked it out), ready to be used on you. Yes YOU.

Socialist Obama's diplomatic appeasement efforts with this country has been a disaster. The New Hitler is just laughing at the US as it continues to prepare and develop its nuclear devices.

Unless this man Ahmadinejad is stopped he WILL use nuclear weapons, he WILL plan simultaneous nuclear explosions in Tel Aviv, Washington and London. All parts smuggled into those countries courtesy of Al Quaeda and their affilliates, no delivery system required.

So is America 'addicted to war?' Yes, by necessity it is - because it is a beacon of hope for freedom and democracy and it is a christian superpower which polices the world. It has been obliged to act when not only its interests but the wider interests of freedom and democracy have been threatened.

I frankly do not relish the prospect of a world without the US World Police. But maybe you US liberals can repent at leisure when you see the smoking ruins of your capital city, Tel Aviv, and the new world order in which you will have no say.

 

DISSIDENT

1:00 PM ET

April 14, 2011

LOL

"The New Hitler is busily building nuclear weapons and enriching uranium"

Right on schedule someone trots out the "new Hitler" line.

Your "new Hitler" rhetoric is very old. Perhaps you could demonize Stalin for a while instead?

Just a thought.

 

PUBLICUS

11:59 AM ET

April 9, 2011

Agreed

The world is in fact addicted to tyrants and other traditions of dictators and dictatorship. The worst terminal addict is China with its new reactionary dictatorship of CCP censoring fascist jailers in Beijing who just love China's 5000 year old tradition of emperors, except that the CCP latter day emperors get to wear $5000 business suits, silk ties and slick looking shoes.

The United States is playing a supporting role in the Lybian operation. Leading it is the Arab League and executing it is Europe's most modern and sophisticated fighter aircraft (as noted elsewhere in FP) and a couple of dozen fighter jets from ME countries. The constitution of the United States, especially the Bill of Rights and its First Amendment make it the target of every dictator and tyrant but especially those who love repeatedly to shout "Crusader!"

 

RICHARD JAMES MCINTOSH

2:11 AM ET

April 10, 2011

From the area of the map marked "Here be dragons"...

Nobody in the rest of the world wants U.S. 'splendid isolation'.

A good deal of 'splendid introspection' will do fine, though, and these ideas of Walt's are a good place to start.

Usually it is only outside of the U.S. that the structural reasons for that country's foreign policy decisions can be as clearly viewed as in this article.

I'd say a good part of that money spent on the projection of U.S. military force would go a long way domestically.

Combine that with more sober assessments of when and where to intervene militarily, and there'd probably be a positive effect on the way the rest of the world views the U.S.

A lot of people in the U.S. don't seem to like the current trend of continued reduction to its prestige, so what's wrong with listening a few good ideas? What Walt advocates might turn things around for you.

Regards.

 

ANNETTEOCDUBLIN

6:28 AM ET

April 10, 2011

Obama - now a gold member of "the Chicago boys"!

Obama has joined the "Chicago boys" school of foreign policy.

Shame! Shame! Shame!

Obama and Hilary Clinton, why don't they organise intervention in D R Congo based on UN resolution 1888? I'm sure it's prime territory for the disaster capitalism complex. Indications are it's in the pipeline for the above mentioned school.

A Democrat president who is a Democrat at home but a corporatist abroad.

Addicted to war, yes, but only the most profitable wars.

 

VIKI

8:32 AM ET

April 10, 2011

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WIZARD44

1:32 PM ET

April 13, 2011

The Revolving Door

My own inclination is to place the influence of the Military-Industrial complex at the top f the list; especially in light of the fact that manufacturing is spread through-out the United States; thus having tremendous influence over political campaigns due to the economic impact. This is accompanied by the 'revolving door' in which individuals shift between stints in influential senior government positions and then lobbyists for the defense industry.

 

WIZARD44

1:32 PM ET

April 13, 2011

The Revolving Door

My own inclination is to place the influence of the Military-Industrial complex at the top f the list; especially in light of the fact that manufacturing is spread through-out the United States; thus having tremendous influence over political campaigns due to the economic impact. This is accompanied by the 'revolving door' in which individuals shift between stints in influential senior government positions and then lobbyists for the defense industry.

 

SHAMS ZAMAN

12:34 PM ET

April 15, 2011

6th is Media and 7th is US Public

Just missed two important reasons.

6th: The media is conservative and show partial facts. It usually tows the government line on war and supports the war.

7th: The general public in USA is unaware of the happenings around the world and can thus is easily fooled by the government. Iraq's WMD capabilities is just one example. While the Palestinian holocaust has remained acceptable for the American public the Qaddafi killing just moved the NATO and USA within few weeks.

Hypocrisy and Double standards. I don't know for how long US government will keep fooling the dumb citizens.

Shams Zaman - Pakistan.

 

PUBLICUS

3:55 PM ET

April 16, 2011

It's already done and over with

Voters in 2008 and the youngest voters in particular showed that there will be no more Dumbya Bush presidents just as there haven't been nor will there be any more Richard Nixon presidents.

Of course Pakistan is the logus of a well developed body politic and a politically mature and sophisticated citizenry/electorate, and a model of honest, open and straightforward government, politics, society, culture, military and people. The great benefit of the US being involved in Pakistan and insisting Pakistan assist the cause of freedom and democracy is that we are engaged with an Old World civilization which remains predicated in duplicity and distrust of one's neighbor and the government, albeit for different and justifiable reasons. By our engagement we learn more each hour and each day about how to deal with Old World cultures and civilizations which are based in distrust and secrecy. We definitely benefit from the ongoing lessons we are learning by our engagement in Pakistan and other Old World ratholes such as Yemin, Sudan, Afghanistan, the greater Middle East, Lybia, Egypt, Tunisia - the list gets rather long.

 

BRKCPN

6:27 AM ET

April 25, 2011

Obama

Yet a mere two years later, we find ourselves back in the fray once again. Since taking office, Obama has escalated U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and launched a new war against Libya. As in Iraq, the real purpose of our intervention is regime change at the maxsikis point of a gun. At first we hoped that most of the guns would be in the hands of the Europeans, or the hands of the rebel forces arrayed against Muammar al-Qaddafi, but it's increasingly video clear that U.S. military forces, CIA operatives and foreign weapons supplies are going to be necessary to finish the job.

 

SIEGOO

4:59 AM ET

May 4, 2011

laden

Yet a mere two years later, we find ourselves back in the fray once again. Since taking office, Obama has escalated U.S. involvement in Afghanistan and launched a new war against Libya. As in Iraq, the real purpose of our intervention is regime change at the enguzel point of a gun. At first we hoped that most of the guns would be in the hands of the Europeans, or the hands of the rebel forces arrayed against Muammar al-Qaddafi, but it's increasingly video clear that U.S. military forces, CIA operatives and foreign weapons supplies are going to be necessary to finish the job.

 

PUBLICUS

1:13 PM ET

May 4, 2011

ICC

The International Criminal Court chief prosecutor is presenting its findings to the UNSC that Gaddhafi needs to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity, most recently against his own people in open rebellion against him. The world is addicted to tyrant leaders and brutal dictators, which is why we need such units as Navy Seals Team 6. Given that NST-6 is rather busy at the moment, some more bunker busters should do fine in Tripoli. Dictators and tyrants don't peacefully retire after having set up a viable system of democracy to succeed them. Ask Bashir Assad and his old man; ask Kim Jong Il, his old man Kim Il Sung and Jong Il's twentysomething bouncing baby boy 4 star general son and the long list of the rest of 'em.