Outraged in Riyadh

Is the House of Saud dumping Obama?

BY SIMON HENDERSON | APRIL 14, 2011

U.S.-Saudi relations are in crisis. King Abdullah thinks the Obama administration's love of universal freedoms is naive and inappropriate for conservative Gulf Arab states like Saudi Arabia and Bahrain, when the big threat is Iran. Washington is upset about the king's alleged offer to bail out Egypt if Hosni Mubarak had decided to cling to power. And there's also the oil factor: With U.S. gasoline prices climbing and despite Riyadh's promises to make up for lost Libyan hydrocarbon sales, the Saudis "throttled back production in mid-March," according to the International Energy Agency.

So when Tom Donilon, the U.S. national security advisor, sat down with the aging Saudi monarch on April 12, there were indeed "a number of issues of common interest" to be reviewed at the meeting, as the Saudi Press Agency dryly reported. Having initially warmed to the newly elected U.S. president, Barack Obama -- who in return offered apparently obsequious deference -- King Abdullah feels let down by the White House on pretty well everything from the Israeli-Palestinian peace process to Iran, and especially Iran.

The Donilon meeting was particularly interesting because of the reported presence of Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the onetime Saudi ambassador to Washington and now the seldom-seen secretary-general of the Saudi National Security Council. For many years, especially when Prince Bandar was envoy to the United States, King Abdullah distrusted him: Too many of the snide stories that Prince Bandar told around town about the then crown prince got back to the kingdom. But Prince Bandar had, and perhaps still has, political and diplomatic talents that King Abdullah needs, especially now.

"Bandar Is Back" was the headline on an October 2010 piece I wrote for Foreign Policy about the prince's return home to Saudi Arabia; he had just resurfaced after mysteriously disappearing from the headlines for a couple of years. Although literally true, it was otherwise a little premature because the prodigal prince then disappeared from view again for several months. But in the last few weeks Prince Bandar indeed has been visibly back, on high-level missions to Pakistan, India, and China.

What it fully means is far from obvious, but there will be speculation about the future of Adel al-Jubeir, the current Saudi ambassador to Washington. Could there be a repeat of the first few weeks of Prince Turki al-Faisal's tenure as Saudi ambassador to the United States from 2005 to 2006, when King Abdullah let the White House know that his official envoy was no longer his chosen interlocutor with Washington?

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Simon Henderson, the Baker fellow and director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy's Gulf and Energy Policy Program, is author of "After King Abdullah: Succession in Saudi Arabia."

ARYABHAT

5:19 AM ET

April 15, 2011

Time to engage with Iran

If China can do business with both - Iran and Saudis, why not US?

Time to negotiate with Iran on Nukes and get something softened to let Israel be safe. Beyond that, Iran can also offer second passage to Afghanistan and make Pakistan's blackmails unsustainable. Add to that Iran's Gas reserves.

As for Iran/Saudi feud, well let them fight. In real. A fight will "soften" both of them, will allow US to sell weapons (initially) and reconstruction material (later) to both and who knows, we may see good riddens of Saudi Kings and/or Iranian clergy - which can be a Bonus!

 

FELINE74

1:01 AM ET

April 16, 2011

If that war can be fought without . . .

. . . smashing the Persian Gulf's oil infrastructure, sure. If not, we're stuck keeping them away from each others' throats for fear they'd take the World's economy down with them.

That said, it has occurred to me that temporarily withdrawing our forces from Bahrain and the Emirates might be a good way of reminding them of why they tolerate our presence to begin with.

 

F1FAN

8:25 AM ET

April 15, 2011

The only shared interest we have with the Saudis.........

Is oil. Other than that there is little common ground. The Saudi regime has no problem repressing it's people or funding Wahabi insurgents and terrorists world wide, if ever there was a duplicitous ally, it's the Saudis.

We should have dumped them years ago.

 

JIVATMANX

2:46 PM ET

April 15, 2011

Wahhabism

Saudi Arabia gets WORSE scores than Iran and Pakistan when it comes even in the (ridiculously pro-western) Freedom House and The Economist's Indexes.

This is, of course, because the official state religion is Wahhabism, whose aim is to emulate in as much detail as possible the time period of Muhammad and the first caliphate. It's no coincidence that Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi and a Wahhabi, as were 16 out of 19 of the Hijackers. Wahhabism requires little modifications to create an extremist group.

A study conducted by the NGO Freedom House found Wahhabi publications in mosques in the United States. These publications included statements that Muslims should not only "always oppose" infidels "in every way", but "hate them for their religion ... for Allah's sake", that democracy "is responsible for all the horrible wars of the 20th century", and that Shia and certain Sunni Muslims were infidels.
source: Freedom House Special report #45

And Saudi Arabia spends untold billions promoting the speard of this form of islam. According to Dawood al-Shirian, Saudi Arabia now funds 90% of the funding of the entire Muslim faith.
-Dawood al-Shirian, 'What Is Saudi Arabia Going to Do?' Al-Hayat, May 19, 2003

 

INTEL4GOOD

4:12 PM ET

April 15, 2011

SIMON the Writer of this .... Poor Ethic's or Caught on the take

Dear Simon Henderson,

Thank you for writing this article for the people.

I have to say though as my first time to this site I am impressed as well disappointed with your Colum. Hey the Getty Image makes your representation look like a $400 paint job on a Mercedes someone thought was actually a brand new car or in your case a complete story of facts as which is the true meaning of honesty.

With this said, I can’t figure out if you are lazy, stupid, new at this region, can’t connect dots, which happens if you haven’t followed the region long enough. Then, as you’re aware, you must match with global facts all connected together.

Honesty, Integrity & Honor is what your profession is based upon. Ethics should mean everything to you. Tell us now if you’re on the take, this is your key out of the hand-cuffs you are now busted. Are you taking orders by cruel mongrel’s media tycoons or other? Stupid? Lazy?

Are there Mongrel Media Tycoons like Murdock insisting you print half-truth?

What is the motive some readers may wonder….maybe a “close to truth” “close to complete” article with impressive product placement photo from Getty will lure the intellectual’s. Many are trying to get a grip on what the hell is happening around the world and shame on you for failing to be a professional.

If you challenge me I will bury you with substance of facts making you then look stupid and incompetent. I can easily defend my stance so be careful how you respond as I check your work.

Man up or man on fire your choice…. Shame on you!
I
f you made any money on this article a great thing for you to offer is a post of what Charity you donated the funds to. I’m not looking for an apology life is to short let’s do better or go resign.

I will now key word search your name, add updates, which as you knows automatically forwards to me all articles you have and will in future post.

For disclosure I work for nobody in media and am not paid to call guys like you weak at best with this type work. I am just a citizen looking for value that I can depend on to make good decisions. I will not be making any decisions based on this and you know what I am speaking of......

Have a great weekend!

Kansas City RP

 

JACOB BLUES

5:20 PM ET

April 15, 2011

I don't know Intel

After reading your post twice, I don't see any subtance or facts.

You would think that if you're going to go around pounding your chest, that you would put something on the table to show you've got the goods.

In the words of the old burger commercial "WHERE'S THE BEEF?"

 

GURINGO

5:02 PM ET

April 16, 2011

Dude, your rant is classic

Dude, your rant is classic schizophrenia, please seek treatment, you're not well,

-g

 

JELENA87

5:36 AM ET

May 6, 2011

In response to Guringo: G, to

In response to Guringo:

G, to be honest, I have to agree with Jacob. Why do you think he must have something to do with classic schizophrenia? I dont think so, there is no point in arguing here.

All the best, Jelena

 

VALWAYNE

2:22 PM ET

April 16, 2011

Obama's Grand Incompetence!

We haven't seen such total incompetence in foreign policy since Jimmy Carter, and even Jimmy didn't launch a useless, unauthorized, endless, war for no reason! Obama's absurd foreign policy of bows, apology, and appeasement is creating chaos around the world, but especially in the Middle East. The King of Saudi Arabia is finding out that Obama's bow didn't mean much that he has an inexperienced, incompetent ally that is bound by indecision and his extreme left wing ideology. The enemy of Saudia Arabia and the U.S., a country that trully threatens the strategic interest in the U.S. is on the move, and Obama does nothing. Yet Obama has launced the entire nation into war against Libya and can't even get rid of Gadhafi. Saudi Arabia is clearly looking for more reliable allies, and that means the U.S. may see gas lines and $20 a gallon gas. Obama's domestic policy has put the U.S. on the edge of total financial collapse. His foreign policy is increasing the economic damage and putting the security of the entire nation at risk!

 

JUSTANOTHERYOU

10:35 PM ET

April 17, 2011

Everyone is dumping big O

Everyone is dumping Obama. They're all realizing what a sham he's been all along.

Even Americans are finally starting to see it! Good on ya.

 

HOUSTONIAN

11:21 PM ET

April 17, 2011

$20 a gallon?

Valwayne, you mentioned, "Saudi Arabia is clearly looking for more reliable allies, and that means the U.S. may see gas lines and $20 a gallon gas." I really do not think that we will have time to even get close to that point. At things progress and everything from food to gas prices increase, while wages stay the same, economy teeters, if gas got to $8.00 per gallon, we'd see major issues happening in the US. Food prices would beyond skyrocket because of the costs of distribution. If we hit the $10 mark within the next couple of years, we may see the true beginning of a crumble of what was once a world power. Those who control the oil control the power. But when reserves run low, which everyone knows will happen over the next few decades, everything will change. Everything. And sadly, it has already started - at least as far as people 'self medicating' because of the stresses of the economy and their jobs. I work as an editor for many sites around Houston including a Houston drug rehab educational website and the uptick in cases is disturbing. Not only is the current economy a mess (for a wide variety of factors and leaders) but because of it, more and more people are choosing the wrong way to deal with the stress that this is all creating. If gas ever hit $20 a gallon, the amount of drug and alcohol abuse happening around the country could up up by hundreds, even thousands of percent. Let's hope we (The USA) elect a leader who can turn everything around - for everyone's sake.

 

SCOOP

12:06 PM ET

April 18, 2011

The New Cold War

By Bill Spindle and Margaret Coker, Wall Street Journal, April 16, 2011

"For all the attention the Mideast protests have received, their most notable impact on the region thus far hasn't been an upswell of democracy. It has been a dramatic spike in tensions between two geopolitical titans, Iran and Saudi Arabia. This new Middle East cold war comes complete with its own spy-versus-spy intrigues, disinformation campaigns, shadowy proxy forces, supercharged state rhetoric—and very high stakes. Iran has long pursued a nuclear program that it insists is solely for the peaceful purpose of generating power, but which the U.S. and Saudi Arabia believe is really aimed at producing a nuclear weapon. At a recent security conference, Prince Turki al Faisal, a former head of the Saudi intelligence service and ambassador to the U.K. and the U.S., pointedly suggested that if Iran were to develop a weapon, Saudi Arabia might well feel pressure to develop one of its own."

 

JANET

9:03 AM ET

April 24, 2011

Cold War continues

That's right, cold war still continues. Or as you said, it is the new cold war. Food prices would beyond skyrocket because of the costs of distribution. If we hit the $10 mark within the next couple of years, we may see the true beginning of a crumble of what was once a world power. Cloud blogging review knew this.Those who control the oil control the power. But when reserves run low, which everyone knows will happen over the next few decades, everything will change. Everything.

 

STACYB12

11:45 AM ET

May 14, 2011

Outraged in Riyadh

The King of Saudi Arabia is finding out that Obama's bow didn't mean much that he has an inexperienced, incompetent ally that is bound by indecision and his extreme left wing ideology. The enemy of Saudia Arabia and the U.S., a country that trully threatens the strategic interest in the U.S. is on the move, and Obama does nothing. raid recovery If we hit the $10 mark within the next couple of years, we may see the true beginning of a crumble of what was once a world power. Those who control the oil control the power. But when reserves run low, which everyone knows will happen over the next few decades, everything will change. Everything. And sadly, it has already started - at least as far as people 'self medicating' because of the stresses of the economy and their jobs. I work as an editor for many sites around Houston including and the uptick in cases is disturbing.

 

STACYB12

11:52 AM ET

May 14, 2011

Is the House of Saud dumping Obama?

Maybe, maybe not. For now, they have the money to bribe their hapless citizens into the roles of enablers and supplicants, but they are destined for some future global Skid Row or violent ending. This is, of course, because the official state religion is Wahhabism, whose aim is to emulate in as much detail as possible the time period of Muhammad and the first caliphate. It's no coincidence that Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi and a Wahhabi, as were 16 out of 19 of the Hijackers. Wahhabism requires little modifications to create an extremist group. You would think that if you're going to go around pounding your chest, that you would put something on the table to show you've got the goods