The Lies They Tell Us

Can the Pakistani government's web of deceit survive the death of Osama bin Laden?

BY MOSHARRAF ZAIDI | MAY 2, 2011

This duplicity helped keep the West sufficiently interested in the myth of "engaging the elite" -- because of course engaging the people would mean courting savagery. It also helped keep the Pakistani people sufficiently hostile toward any notion of understanding or appreciating the West's genuine and legitimate concerns and interests in Pakistan. But with time, this delicate waltz has grown harder and harder to sustain. The Pakistani military, for all its swagger, has either forgotten all the steps, or never knew them to begin with.

The notion that one fine day bin Laden adorned a burqa and made a trip over perhaps the most treacherous 180 miles of terrain in the world, from Tora Bora to Abbottabad, without catching the attention of Pakistan's vast, richly endowed, and unaccountable military establishment is as ridiculous as any conspiracy theories now being peddled by Pakistan's incorrigible right-wing hacks -- with the most common version simply refusing to believe that he is dead.

It is even less likely that, as U.S. counterterrorism czar John Brennan claimed in a press conference today, Pakistani authorities did not know about the military operation that killed bin Laden until it was over. Abbottabad's Bilal Town neighborhood where bin Laden lived and died was virtually around the corner from the Pakistan Military Academy at Kakul -- Pakistan's West Point, where future General Kayanis and General Pashas are learning to be officers. It doesn't take 40 minutes to start to scramble planes, or get troops to Abbottabad, and there is no getting into the town by land or air without the expressed consent of Pakistan's security establishment. This may not have been an official joint operation, but it was almost certainly a collective effort.

Maintaining these two fictions requires a great deal of creativity from both parties involved. In the first instance, Pakistan has to lie to enable the U.S. government to avoid looking like a first-timer in Las Vegas, getting hustled by a pro. In the second, the United States has to lie, to avoid implicating its chief partner in the dishonoring of Pakistani pride and the violation of Pakistani sovereignty.

On Indian television, the veteran U.S. diplomat Frank Wisner poignantly noted that the United States has to delicately negotiate "ambiguity" in its relationship with Pakistan. The problem for Pakistan is that it must also negotiate this ambiguity with itself. For a country that can't pay its bills, or even manage its borders, this is a deeply ambitious order. Americans should not hold their breath for any dramatic changes in the short term in Pakistan.

ASIF HASSAN/AFP/Getty Images

 

Mosharraf Zaidi advises governments and international organizations on public policy and international aid. He writes a weekly column for Pakistan's the News. His writing is archived at www.mosharrafzaidi.com.

NEW318

9:14 PM ET

May 2, 2011

A few questions

You said that the Pakistani political establishment is really about maintaining/gaining wealth, as well as spinning different lines of propaganda both internally and externally. What I don't get is this: if Pakistan's government did know where bin Laden was and what he was up to, was bin Laden then worth more to them alive and well than handed over to the Americans? And if so, what was this worth? Just money? The embarrassment it is suffering now could have been pride had Pakistan handed him over. This would have meant that Pakistan could more surely control its image, which you stressed, as well as have its financial interests met, by retaining a tight grip on however much money America gives its military.

I get the impression that a handful of Pakistani's military/politicians helped him out, perhaps out of ideological reasons, but significant political figures could have used him better had they known of his whereabouts.

I'm happy to be shown otherwise though.

 

ARYABHAT

5:04 AM ET

May 3, 2011

National elite whose focus is the accumulation of wealth?

Excellent article FP!

"This confusion has been carefully cultivated by a national elite whose singular focus is the accumulation of wealth, at all costs." - Pakistani elite's focus IS accumulation of wealth at all cost - however - this isn't its SINGULAR focus. its other focus is EXPANSION of ISLAM, creating a Muslim world! It is this BIPOLAR focus that is giving an impression of a confused elite.

They aren't confused. They are very clever and determined! Milking the west and China alongwith the Oil rich Sheikhdoms!

 

ASHTONKAYE

9:45 AM ET

May 3, 2011

Pakistan Has Always Played the Denial Game

Remember the 2008 Mumbai attacks? The second it happened everyone pointed fingers (rightfully so) at the Pakistanis. The Pakistan Government immediately came out and said that this wasn't an operation by Pakistani's but more likely to be Bangladeshis or Indian Criminals (ya right). Even after they were caught, and admitted to being Pakistani Nationals, the Pakistani Authorities refused to acknowledge this fact until the 7th January the following year. Now there's increasing allegations that the ISI (Pakistani Intelligence) supported the group and mission.
Is it really a stretch to believe that history repeated itself and the Pakistani state has yet again harbored and aided a known terrorist? If our investigation find any link between the Pakistani Government (ISI included) and the harboring of Bin Laden, then harsh measures should be taken. Military action shouldn't be off the table because it's in plain sight that they will not co-operate otherwise.
- Ashton, Vaporizer Reviews

 

ZEPHOS

10:09 AM ET

May 3, 2011

Too much hate

Excellent Article.

However i really would like to point out that the masses are really confused as to what just happened. Denial on the part of security forces or there was more into it, we can only speculate however things will become more clear with the passage of time. I suggest my Indian friends here to just calm down. I know things are wrong here but chains of retaliation always breed hatred, we have to break them. When everyone's looking for answers, its better to wait for sometime for we all are equally confused.

Thankyou

 

YOURSTRULY

2:01 PM ET

May 3, 2011

This is the closest to reality analysis...

of the situation in Pakistan, which I've ever seen on FP.

Primarily to blame are the Pakistanis themselves.
Illiterate and educated alike, they've enjoyed playing with the fire of intolerance and hatred for all their lives. Now comes the time to reap the harvest.
To the critics of this article:
Have you ever said that it is wrong of Pakistanis to kill Christians and burn their homes?
Have you ever said that it is wrong of Pakistanis to kill Shias and burn their homes and business?
Have you ever said that it is wrong of Pakistanis to kill Ahmadees and burn their homes and businesses?
Have you ever said that it is wrong of Pakistanis to kill other minorities and burn their homes and businesses?
My bet is that you never have and never will.
And that is the reason now you're finding yourself living in a fascist and failed state, despised by the entire world.
And that is also the reason Pakistan is nothing better than a beggar nation, with no power, no gas supply and no food.
It has been the Americans who have been keeping food on Pakistani tables and they've got the best return for it that Pakistanis could give them, by hiding US's worst enemy right in the middle of an army garrison establishment.

 

SHOBHIT

2:20 PM ET

May 3, 2011

Good Pakistani, Bad pakistani

Good effort, but It Simply doesn't cut.

Pakistanis are what Pakistan as a nation does, just as it is for any other country. Did anyone care about Kind hearted Nazi Germans!!!

Would you deny the fact that your country is just a little too ambitious for its size? I myself admire few public figures of your country, but is not this hate too pervasive than you are trying to project?

Your elite might be running the whole show but you just can't deny the responsibility of ordinary folks who donate money and blood to all the terrorist organizations., including the wretched Kashmiri ones...

 

YOURSTRULY

4:43 PM ET

May 3, 2011

You may be MightyMouse but you don't know jack.....

about Pakistan's mostly wretched history.
Son, Looks like your life experience is not very much over 10 years, and not sure which mouse cave you've been living in, but here are the facts:

Sikander Mirza imposed the first Martial Law in Pakistan in 1957 to undo a civilian govt. and ever thence Pakistan's history has been pathetic, vacillating between three legged 'democracies' and military rule. The only two relatively peaceful, and prosperous periods you may argue, were those of Gen. Ayub Khan and that of Gen. Musharraf.
And I may also point out that during the latter's administration the UN issued a written acknowledgement that the post Kashmir earth quake recovery was a model recovery for the entire world, i.e. such had not happened before. (I point this out over and over particularly because many mice are blind to such facts...:>)

Outside of these two General's terms, Pakistan has been nothing but a wretched place to be in. Each time Pakistanis impose a new three legged 'democracy' upon themselves, the first thing that happens is that hoarders, cheats and black marketers, the likes of Nawaz Sharif and his family, cause Atta and Sugar to disappear. This time around electric power and cooking gas has disappeared too. Then the military has to come around to restore some sanity to the poor citizenry. And when stomachs get full again then the yearning for democracy -without having the foundations for democracy in place- comes back and the vicious cycle starts all over.
If you sit back and look for a reason for this, you also may begin to see that the root cause is the whole experimentation of Pakistan, being founded on a religion, forcing together ethnic groups who have nothing in common other than religion, was a terrible idea.

Democracy will never work for people who are intolerant up to their eyeballs.
Pakistanis need to learn the essence of 'Live and Let Live', and learn this soon, coz time's running out. It’s been a wretched living, for the most part, since Pakistan's inception
and all things wretched come to wretched ends. Sooner than you think.
And a mouse cave might be the best place to be, when that end comes...:>

 

INTELGAL

6:23 PM ET

May 3, 2011

not exactly great sourcing

Mouse - A Pakistani journalist with questionable bias and a guy who left the agency in 1988 and was implicated in the Iran-Contra affair aren't exactly the most convincing sources for making your point.

 

GSC_99

2:53 PM ET

May 3, 2011

Pakistan has always been an

Pakistan has always been an extreme environment that is breeding grounds for te.r.ror. It about time world saw through this carefully crafted persona of so called ally in war against terr.or and understand that Pakistan is the real deal.

 

SMITHMASON

6:03 PM ET

May 4, 2011

This. I wish people would

This. I wish people would understand that the only reason Pakistan even pretends to be amicable is because we give them several BILLION dollars each year. That's it.

And as far as their complaining about our strike without their knowledge/consent, let's get real: we made it clear years ago that if Osama was found, we'd take action regardless of where he was. After all, the United States is practically responsible for the security of the world and we used to tell them about raid and targets we wanted hit or wanted to hit but whenever the raid would hit the targets would be magically gone. -houston dwi attorney

 

ROMAN GIL

5:34 PM ET

May 4, 2011

The Osama Bin Laden Is Dead Story" Has Many Questions

The “Osama Bin Laden Is Dead Story” Has Many Questions That Need To Be Investigated.

Osama Bin Laden was a terrorist and deserved the death penalty. This is why the media must investigate this story instead of merely parroting the information that was provided by the government.

Based on my experience as a decorated US Army combat veteran, this story has credibility problems. I tried to post these questions in the comments section of several mass media publications and they did not get posted. A free press is essential in a free society because it has a duty to investigate what the government is doing and it must educate citizens. A free media must publish all responsible questions from the public and be open to debate. Thomas Jefferson said that given the choice between government and a printing press, he would take the printing press.

1. Why they did not show Osama’s body publicly? In 1967, Che Guevara the Communist guerrilla was captured alive wounded in Bolivia, interrogated, killed and his body was displayed to the world media. A responsible government would display Osama’s body to the media and to a panel of international physicians to prove without a doubt the death of the most wanted terrorist in the world. The government version that Osama’s head was too damaged to show the public is not credible. Morticians can prepare a body for public display. Media and international physicians would be welcome to take DNA samples from the body as total proof of Osama’s demise.

2. Osama was unarmed when they shot him? Osama was a terrorist veteran of the Afghan Soviet war that was waged in the 1980s between Islamist guerrillas and the Soviet Union. Anybody with his background would have alarmed, mined and booby trapped his house. Weapons would be in his possession at all times and in every room of the house, including hand grenades. He had plenty of time to install command detonated mines everywhere outside and inside the compound. I have problems believing that the most wanted terrorist in the world was killed while unarmed. When I was in a war zone, my weapon was with me at all times and I slept with it and lots of ammo and hand grenades, could Osama be so foolish that he did not have weapons in his room?

3. There were no American casualties? This is simply not credible because attacking a compound that is occupied by dangerous men that had plenty of time to prepare for defense, makes it certain that the attackers must sustain casualties. Osama’s terrorist group specializes in suicide bombers of both sexes. They could not spare even one of them to protect their leader?

4. Why did we spend $1.5 Trillion dollars occupying and "nation building" Iraq and Afghanistan instead of targeting Osama's less than 1,000 terrorists?. We could have got Osama 10 years ago at a reasonable cost. When American troops landed in Afghanistan after the 9/11 terrorist attack, the Afghan Northern Alliance had already overthrown the Taliban government that harbored Osama. It was not necessary to occupy the country. A war using Special Forces would have been sufficient

5. Why are we still involved in the Israeli-Muslim conflict? This is the cause of the war on terror. We inherited Israel’s enemies and they struck us on 9/11. The effects of our involvement will continue until we divorce from the Muslim world and focus on killing the actual terrorists until they are finished. Our absence from the Muslim world will make Muslims eventually stop provoking us with terrorism because they will want to keep us out. It is common sense that it would be in the Muslim interest to stop terrorism against America to keep America from coming back to their lands. With America out of the Israeli-Muslim conflict, the Muslims will be free to focus on their affairs and their problem with Israel. Israel has nuclear weapons and a strong military that assures it that it can survive any war without America. The only beneficiaries of the present war on terror are the war contractors and the special interest groups.

Some possible explanations for this unusual story;

a) The government killed Osama Bin Laden but it believes that it is not necessary to provide conclusive proof of their actions because they are universally loved and trusted. This means that they are incompetent because they did not prove their story.

b) Osama Bin Laden was hooked on opium and developed a false sense of security. His followers shared this drug problem and failed to fortify and provide guards for the Osama compound.
c) The masses are so stupid that they will accept without question anything that the government and media tells them, so why bother with proof?

d) Osama Bin Laden died years ago, and now it is a convenient time to bring him back to distract the masses and continue the hugely profitable war on terror and gain mass support for a government that cannot exist without debt and financial dependency on special interest groups.

e) This story is a case that simply shows the irresponsibility and incompetence of the American government.

The $1.5 Trillion spent on the war on terror continues to pile additional debt and there is no end in sight. The money that was wasted on fighting this war with a wrong strategy could have been wisely invested by loaning it to private enterprise companies that would be protected from cheap imports. A new industrial policy like South Korea’s would reconstruct and protect a new American industrial base that would replace the industry and technology that global corporations exported to China and other Third World countries under the globalization false ideology that has ruined America and Europe and created millions of permanently unemployed people. America would be able to replace imports with nationally produced products and services. The trade losses would end and careers in science, engineering, chemistry and skilled jobs would be abundant in an industrial economy.

With a new industrial base, America would be independent of imports and global debt financing. Presently, the Federal government needs to annually beg and borrow $1.65 Trillion a year from international capital and US investors because the industrial base of the American economy is only 9%. There are not enough corporate or individual taxpayers to support the huge Federal, State and local governments, plus their armies of government contractors. In any case, the American governments must reduce their size and expenses by 40% to balance their budgets and avoid digging America deeper into debt and dependency on the kindness of creditors.

The present economic and political dependency of the American economy on debt, special interest groups and imports makes a continuation of the present globalist war on terror fatal for America. It’s a choice of nation building America before it becomes a terminal case of financial and social cancer, or continue to dig the debt and dependency grave deeper until we end like other failed world powers, including the British Empire, the French Empire and Soviet Union.

Roman Gil
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JEFFPRUETT

11:13 AM ET

May 5, 2011

Pakistan is not the only culprit

Even before OBL's death Pakistan’s spooks, generals, and diplomats were engaged with their American counterparts in efforts to calm an overwrought relationship. The ISI director-general visited Washington in mid-April to meet with the CIA. Pakistan’s foreign secretary followed him later in the month. Some encouraging noises were heard, about cooperating against terrorism and fostering a long-term strategic partnership. But routine accusations about drones and state-sponsored terrorism have kept things exciting.

At least superficially, the fly in the ointment is Pakistan’s demand for an end to the cloak-and-dagger stuff: secret operatives and not-so-secret drones, which allegedly hit more civilians than militants. Islamabad’s whining led to a palliative in the shape of 85 nonlethal surveillance drones. At the same time, another drone strike killed 25 people on April 21, amongst which women and a child in a Maclaren stroller. The high death toll and manner of the last three strikes, each coming on the heels of meetings between U.S. and Pakistani officials, have led to speculation that there is more to these hits than just targeting militant hideouts.

The tussle appears to be about the American footprint in Pakistan, but it is ever increasingly also about the Pakistani footprint in a post-U.S. Afghanistan.

 

ISHMAEL137

6:37 PM ET

May 5, 2011

Pakistan's Future

There seems no doubt that Mr bin Laden was killed 1 May 2011; even the Taliban, AQAP and the family seem to agree with the US on that point. If there is any controversy after the fact, it stems from the clueless han-handed way the aftermath has been handled. But that's not a real concern, no more than Mr bin Laden is now.

The real question is what to do with Pakistan. All the lies they have told over the years, all the botched operations, and all the rumours about Pakistan's complicity with terrorism come rushing back. Does the US just smile, nod and go back to business as usual? Or does the US consider all the lives that have been lost and billions squandered because of Pakistan?

Seeing how the Obama Administration has managed to bone a victory, I do not have any faith they will do any better with the Pakistani situation...

http://righthereontheleftcoast.blogspot.com/2011/05/pakistan-collaborators-or-incompetent.html

 

IMRAN.KAZMI

8:18 AM ET

May 6, 2011

Why "HATE PAKISTAN" movement?

So MUCH HATE, So MUCH EMOTION, and all of it WASTED... for lack of knowledge won't serve anyone, let alone you any better...

Listen guys, those of you engaged in "hate Pakistan" dialogue, you need to READ this article, it CLEARLY explains the reasons WHY Pakistan Government is a JOKE - in one word: ELITES. They have systematically raped our country of money, honor, respect, values, everything. They treat our OWN people WORSE then YOU treat POWs. People have DIED while our leaders stopped traffic on roads ... YES they didn't even allow ambulances.

Go ask any Talibanized or anti Talibanized Pakistani this question "WOULD YOU BE HAPPY IF THE USA MADE PAKISTAN IT'S 52ND STATE? AND RULED OVER PAKISTAN" Trust me, all so called Al Qaeda and Taliban and LeT would chant in unison YES SIR! It is TRUE the masses HATE USofA but it is not because the US is "ANTI ISLAM" it is because the USofA is "PRO ELITES" in Pakistan.

Our people don't have electricity, safe water, education, employment, NOTHING really, WHY THE F^^^ DO PAKIS MIGRATE? I mean the country has apparently EVERYTHING, hills, ocean, natural resources, rivers, good humble and simple people ... the GOVERNMENT run and controlled by the ELITES whether in or out of uniform they have ONE aim, loot our people, and now they have TWO aims, LOOT THE USofA as well, and they HAVE!

My 2 cents, do a poll in Pakistan on whether Pakistanis would want a green card and be called "Americans" with an American run government, I bet you'll get 99.9999% response rate in favor of the same.

Please educate yourselves to the REAL PAKISTAN, what you see is the government failing on one side and masses frustrated and angry on the other, venting it all on the USofA ... but you don't see the forest from the trees.

Go see http://www.facebook.com/changepakistannow or www.ahappyworld.info and the answer to t(error) http://learningpays.wordpress.com and then LET'S TALK SOLUTIONS.

If the US doesn't "friendly take over" Pakistan then the only option is as I have suggested in my sites above...

 

IMRAN.KAZMI

10:58 AM ET

May 6, 2011

My Utopian world starting with Pakistan...

About me

I’m not a talker, I’m a doer, in Mr Shaukat Aziz as Finance Minister time, under Riaz Naqvi, the finest civil servant I ever met, alongside his colleague Riaz Malik, both ex Chairmen CBR, I was able to stop smuggling of mobile phones in Pakistan vide SRO 391 in 2001 that got the Govt USD 1bn in extra taxes. My efforts for all parties to unite to fight corruption & spread real Islam in Pakistan & beyond are well documented, so are my efforts to improve Pakistan economy. I got nothing out of it, not even a “thank you” from the government, but who cares, I love the PEOPLE and for them I do this. Be OPEN and BROADMINDED, stop BLAMING, and start ACTING. Join me, let’s change Pakistan as one nation, not Muslim, Hindu, Jew or Christian, Black, Yellow or White, Catholic or Protestant, PPP or PML, Punjabi or Pathan, Shia or Sunni, be ONE for once!

My life mission is to spread love and peace in a borderless world, join me and change the world. Peace, safety and prosperity are a global priority, I have a utopian dream to change the world, which I think world leaders are either not aware of or are too selfish in their approach to give a thought and reason. The world must act and stop rhetoric in the face of the hate and war machine that some foolishly think will solve terrorism or other problems. Let us be ONE as a world, regardless of religion color or caste and come together, our Creator wants to test us, HE made us (you call Him whatever you like, Allah, God, Bhagwan, Yahweh, makes no difference), we are no one to hate ANY ONE who is different than we are, imagine PEOPLE DO NOT CHOOSE THEIR OWN RELIGION, they simply blindly follow what their parents followed, so WHY SHOULD WE HATE SOMEONE WHO HAS NOT EVEN “CHOSEN” THEIR RELIGION???

Please read and forward this site to your friends and let us make this ideal world a reality, without borders, without passports, but WITH rules that we all accept, starting with tolerance and love for those who are unlike us… Think, if God wanted, we would all have been the same shape, size, color etc, if we hate a race, think, He made them too! He cannot hate His own creation so how can we? To judge us is His job, not ours, we are to accept and love each other and defy Satan.
If you don’t believe in religion, thats’ fine too, believe in humanity at least and preach all to be good human beings starting with yourself and those you love.

Imran Owais Kazmi
http://imranokazmi.wordpress.com

 

SAKCRETE

12:30 PM ET

May 6, 2011

Osama Truthers

Please just stop posting ignorance is contagious on the internet, one of my friend has already caught your stupid, just stop.

You think Osama died years ago? Why then does he have tapes every couple months until Jan 2011?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Videos_and_audio_recordings_of_Osama_bin_Laden

Why is Al Qaeda just now confirming his death?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/al-qaeda-confirms-osama-bin-ladens-death-vows-retaliation/2011/05/06/AFFEtn7F_story.html

You think Al Qaeda trying to stick with Obama's narrative?

You think Osama isn't dead at all... if that were the case he would release a tape in a couple days/weeks and utterly destroy Obama's credibility as a leader. This is the same reason releasing a photo is pointless, it doesn't make him any more/less dead and is frankly in bad taste (it is about time the USA started taking the moral high ground again).

You are free to believe what you want and questioning authority is of the utmost importance but questioning authority and ignoring large bodies of facts while hand picking your own "facts" is stupid at best and dangerous at worst. People who think there are plots against them tend to do crazy, unpredictable and dangerous stuff, like crashing planes into trade towers, or crashing a plane into the IRS building.

Osama believed there was a global conspiracy which posed an existential threat to Islam. Stupid right wing Americans believe there is a global conspiracy with Islam which is a threat to the US. Stupid left wing Americans believe that a cartoonishly evil Bush planned 9/11.

Clearly there is plenty of stupid on all sides; please people next time you hear a conspiracy theory that fits in with your world view take a step back and look at some facts (not partisan lies presented as facts).

 

DR.KISSINGER@YAHOO.COM

2:16 PM ET

May 6, 2011

We should stop the Iraq and Afghan mini wars

Rather invade and occupy Iran and Pakistan. It will only cost us a few hundred billion more and will help safeguard Israel. Other wise both Pakistan and Afghanistan are flirting with China who already have Iran on their side.

http://islamist.com/p207641-us-pakistani-chinese-tensions-growing.cfm

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dr.k.

 

AJITHROCKSCA

4:50 AM ET

May 7, 2011

Stop supporting Pak

"Pak - A partner in war on terror" is really the joke of the century. The feed the terrorist against india and the US. It is ridiculous that US is still supporting Pak.

- Ajithkumar

 

NEPS

2:41 PM ET

May 9, 2011

No celebration

I can't say I'm not glad but all this jumping in celebration is not something I feel should be done. We are no where near the end of this struggle and many more people are going to die even with OBL dead.

One thing that we should remember is that Pakistanis don't think like us. To many, the west still remains as evil. OBL has been a hope for them. He is the David in the flight against Goliath. So don't expect the Pakistani government to bend over and be our friend when the people are not. To them, they'll always see this as an insult to their sovernity. neps

 

IRONGUYS

1:22 AM ET

May 10, 2011

Justice has been done

Osama is death this is a fact and now the world need start to thinks different, everyone want to see a Osama death in a video but this is impossible.Now is time to make a stop and to go to the way of the peace. No one can scape all the time and the final time came for Osama. Now is time to the gov show thevideos.

"Justice has been done," President Barack Obama declared late Sunday as crowds formed outside the White House to celebrate. Many sang "The Star-Spangled Banner" and "We Are the Champions."

 

JIBRAN_PCC

1:59 AM ET

May 10, 2011

Why every one is blaming

Why every one is blaming pakistan for it? It was all act of US they want to come in the pakistan like they did in IRAQ and Afghanistan. It was all preplanned to humiliate Pakistan which gives them reason to come to Pakistan with their army to AID Pakistan with the main purpose to taking over it.

China is also supporting Pakistan against this ligation.

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MR W

7:49 AM ET

May 10, 2011

Very Suspicious

I think that a lot of people want to know how much the Pakistani Government knew about Osama's little hideout. In the north of Pakistan last month they discovered and shut down a dance academy for females, so how is it that the worlds largest terrorist organisation could be headquartered there for so long without anyone knowing?

 

ASHTONKAYE

4:23 PM ET

May 10, 2011

Hope Something Is Done Soon

It's been more than a week since the incident that shocked the world and I'm still not clear on why there hasn't been a UN audit on the Pakistani government and their intelligence service. It's obvious they knew something no one else had any clue of. I read that one of bin Laden's wives claims that he's been in Pakistan for as long as 6 years, which is unacceptable if true.

 

NEPS

7:49 PM ET

May 11, 2011

Lies

We have no choice but to continue whatever relationship we have with Pakistan. Just like we don't trust them, they don't trust us and that's why all the lies. For the sake of world peace, we have to continue to engage them in our efforts to bring peace. Free

 

MUGA336U

1:25 AM ET

May 12, 2011

You think

You think Osama isn't dead at all... if that were the case he would release a tape in a couple days/weeks and utterly destroy Obama's credibility as a leader. This is the same reason releasing a pontevedrarealestate photo is pointless, it doesn't make him any more/less dead and is frankly in bad taste (it is about time the USA started taking the moral high ground again). I also do not believe these: Yes, There Are Positive Images of Black Women on Reality TV Meeting With the President, Again Racist Mexican Skit Goes Viral, Oprah Admits Challenges With OWN and More. You probably dreamed them up.

 

SOUTHERNBREEZES

12:10 PM ET

May 13, 2011

Frustrated

Reading all the comments since I posted last is rather disturbing. Do so many people really think OBL isn't dead? Well, you're probably right...I mean, it only makes sense that we would wait 10 years to put this brilliant conspiratorial plan into action (eye roll). Also, and this always bothers me in comments but esp when people are commenting on such serious topics, please at least TRY to write a sentence that makes sense and use proper grammar and spelling. Even fewer people are going to listen to your rantings when you write like a fifth grader. I guess it's just a sign of the times.

 

SOUTHERNBREEZES

12:13 PM ET

May 13, 2011

Frustrated

Reading all the comments since I posted last is rather disturbing. Do so many people really think OBL isn't dead? Well, you're probably right...I mean, it only makes sense that we would wait 10 years to put this brilliant conspiratorial plan into action (eye roll). Also, and this always bothers me in comments but esp when people are commenting on such serious topics, please at least TRY to write a sentence that makes sense and use proper grammar and spelling. Even fewer people are going to listen to your rantings when you write like a fifth grader. I guess it's just a sign of the times.