Misnomers and Misdirection

Hey, Bibi: Calling Hamas the al Qaeda of Palestine isn't just wrong, it's stupid.

BY DANIEL BYMAN | MAY 25, 2011

In a rousing speech before Congress on May 24, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected peace talks with the newly unified Palestinian government because it now includes -- on paper at least -- officials from the terrorist (or, in its own eyes, "resistance") group Hamas. In a striking moment, Netanyahu defiantly declared, "Israel will not negotiate with a Palestinian government backed by the Palestinian version of al Qaeda," a statement greeted with resounding applause from the assembled members of Congress.

But hold on a minute. Yes, Hamas, like al Qaeda, is an Islamist group that uses terrorism as a strategic tool to achieve political aims. Yes, Hamas, like al Qaeda, rejects Israel and has opposed the peace talks that moderate Palestinians have tried to move forward. And sure, the Hamas charter uses language that parallels the worst anti-Semitism of al Qaeda, enjoining believers to fight Jews wherever they may be found and accusing Jews of numerous conspiracies against Muslims, ranging from the drug trade to creating "sabotage" groups like, apparently, violent versions of Rotary and Lions clubs.

But the differences between Hamas and al Qaeda often outweigh the similarities. And ignoring these differences underestimates Hamas's power and influence -- and risks missing opportunities to push Hamas into accepting a peace deal.

While Congress was quick to applaud Bibi's fiery analogy, U.S. counterterrorism officials know that one of the biggest differences is that Hamas has a regional focus, while al Qaeda's is global. Hamas bears no love for the United States, but it has not deliberately targeted Americans. Al Qaeda, of course, sees the United States as its primary enemy, and it doesn't stop there. European countries, supposed enemies of Islam such as Russia and India, and Arab regimes of all stripes are on their hit list. Other components of the "Salafi-jihadist" movement (of which al Qaeda is a part) focus operations on killing Shiite Muslims, whom they view as apostates. Hamas, in contrast, does not call for the overthrow of Arab regimes and works with Shiite Iran and the Alawite-dominated secular regime in Damascus, pragmatically preferring weapons, money, and assistance in training to ideological consistency.

Hamas, like its parent organization, the Muslim Brotherhood, also devotes much of its attention to education, health care, and social services. Like it or not, by caring for the poor and teaching the next generation of Muslims about its view of the world, Hamas is fundamentally reshaping Palestinian society. Thus, many Palestinians who do not share Hamas's worldview nonetheless respect it; in part because the Palestinian moderates so beloved of the West have often failed to deliver on basic government functions. The old Arab nationalist visions of the 1950s and 1960s that animated the moderate Palestinian leader Mahmood Abbas and his mentor Yasir Arafat have less appeal to Palestinians today.

One of the greatest differences today, as the Arab spring raises the hope that democracy will take seed across the Middle East, is that Hamas accepts elections (and, in fact, took power in Gaza in part because of them) while al Qaeda vehemently rejects them. For Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Ladin's deputy and presumed heir-apparent, elections put man's (and, even worse, woman's) wishes above God's. A democratic government could allow the sale of alcohol, cooperate militarily with the United States, permit women to dress immodestly, or a condone a host of other practices that extremists see as forbidden under Islam. So yes, Hamas, like al Qaeda, talks of an Islamic government, but in practice it makes compromises, as its unity agreement with Abbas and his regime suggests. In power, Hamas has tried to Islamicize Gaza, and its rule in Gaza is notable for its repression, but it has not imposed a draconian regime as did the Taliban in Afghanistan, the only government al Qaeda ever recognized as truly Islamic.

In the end, Hamas is pragmatic. It makes compromises with rivals, cuts deals with potentially hostile foreign sponsors, and otherwise tries to strengthen its political position, even if this exposes it to the charge of hypocrisy.

MAHMUD HAMS/AFP/Getty Images

 

Daniel Byman is a professor in the Security Studies Program at Georgetown University and the research director of the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution. His book A High Price: The Triumphs and Failures of Israeli Counterterrorism will be released in June 2011.

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

8:14 PM ET

May 25, 2011

Hamas is to Israel what Al Qaeda is to the USA

This is probably a big reason as to why Netanyahu said this. It makes you understand why he wouldn't negotiate with Hamas.

The Failure of Al-Qaeda is purely because of the war on terror. In regards to Hamas, Israel's hands are tied behind its back because it get criticized heavily and gets sent multiple UN resolutions whenever it responds to Hamas. I would argue that AL-Qaeda is pretty successful in that it made the United States enter a pretty big war.

Al-Qaeda is global because it is much harder for them to attack the US at home then it is abroad, in their territory. Hamas is regional because they just so happen to reside next door, and within, Israel. There is no need to go much more global.

just a few thoughts.

 

PRAGMATIC IDEALIST

8:21 PM ET

May 25, 2011

Context, please

Though I agree with your analysis of the two organizations, Bibi's comparison of Hamas to Al Qaeda has little to do with actual facts, and should be understood within context of other events of the week, especially his and Obama's speeches to AIPAC. The nature of the U.S.-Israel alliance, as described by both Obama and Natanyahu, is dependent upon the supposition that America and Israel face the same enemies, and represent the same ideals.

America provides defense assistance, military contracts, and intelligence aid to Israel, and not within a vacuum; Bibi was tying the moral right of America to defend itself from Al Qaeda to his country's own policies, by extension comparing 9/11 to the missile attacks on southern Israeli cities and the kidnap of soldier Gilad Shalit. Congress made sure to leave no impression of contradiction.

Bibi was not actually asserting that Al Qaeda and Hamas are similar in mission, leadership, or tactics, but rather that they play the same role in the formulation of America's and Israel's respective anti-terrorist policies. Detailing the obvious differences between the organization isn't addressing the real intention of the speech, and ignores the more important aspects of the international dynamic exposed by reading between the lines.

 

PHILIP EGGER

8:41 PM ET

May 25, 2011

Does Hamas represent a "large portion of Palestinian opinion"?

According to Israeli peace activist and journalist Gershon Baskin, Hamas is only favored by around 15 percent of Palestinians. While that is certainly significant, and a problem, I wouldn't call it a "large portion."
Hamas did well in elections in 2006 because it saw the intricacies of the voting system in use, and took full advantage of them, while Fatah did not. For instance, in many constituencies, the Hamas candidate won simply because Fatah candidates split the vote. Not to mention that Hamas didn't take full control of Gaza until seizing power in a coup the next year. Not exactly democratic.

 

COLINDALE

2:33 AM ET

May 26, 2011

Does Likud leader, Binyamin Netanyahu tell you the truth?

“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves ... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country.” -David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s 'Fateful Triangle', which appears in Simha Flapan’s Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

“We must expel Arabs and take their places.” -David Ben Gurion, 1937, 'Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs', Oxford University Press, 1985.

“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.” -David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From 'Ben-Gurion, A Biography', by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

“Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population.” -David Ben Gurion, quoted in 'The Jewish Paradox', by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

“There is no such thing as a Palestinian people ... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.” -Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

“(The Palestinians) should be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls.” -Yitzhak Shamir, in a speech as Israeli Prime Minister to Jewish settlers, New York Times April 1, 1988

 

BETZ55

1:01 PM ET

May 26, 2011

usmarine101 just go home - your embarrassing yourself again

usmarine101 and Israel logic: Your house is nice. You don’t mind if I take it, right? Now, when I have taken your house we can talk.

What? Why don't you want to talk with me? I don't want to talk with you if your demand is that I return your house, it's mine now!

I read in the book the Lord of the Rings that this house is mine, Tolkien is my god and if he says so it's the truth! Sorry, you can't have your house back.

Look at him, who's house I took!!! He doesn't want peace, he is claiming that the house given to me by Tolkien is stolen and by doing so he is provocating me and my family!

I can't have any peace talks under such circumstances. First he must stop these unjustified demands and prove that he wants peace!!

Can't understand that one? Try this one - someone comes to your house and tells you their relatives lived in your house 2000 years ago so now it's theirs and proceed to kick you out and live there. Would you fight back? Thought so. Now you know how the Palestinians feel.

Israel conquered its Greater Israel in 1967 and almost immediately began moving its civilians onto the conquered lands into exclusive Jewish “settlements”, showing its clear intent to permanently include so-called Judea and Samaria into Greater Israel.

It did so in direct contravention of the Fourth Geneva Convention which prohibits such population transfers as well as territorial annexations by an occupying power. It did so in full knowledge of the illegality of such steps as demonstrated by the famous Judge Meron secret legal memorandum.

Zionist Israel is a revolutionary micro-state whose existence has permeated the world with detrimental universal immorality.

Military blockade, economic strangulation, wholesale land and water theft, racial subjugation, demolition of homes, war on civilians, etc, etc. is what passes for morality in the Zionist world.
What is Zionism based on? We have already seen, read, and googled the lawless tactics it employs to achieve its aims.

Israel is the problem. And until you get it you and Israel will go on destroying itself, if not demographically, then morally. Is that clear enough for an obtuse person like you to understand? Good.

If not, your pathetic in you myopic delusion.

 

AARKY

4:53 PM ET

May 26, 2011

Hamaa is really the official voice of Palestine

Netanyahu and the Likkudniks are merely following the statement s and policies of the Israeli leaders from the past in regards to the Palestinians. They will prevaricate and obfuscate, all the while continuing to create settelements in the west bank, which now have over 300,000 Jewish residents. They will hype the potential danger and always attack any citicism as being anti-semitic or worse for the author of this article, self-hating Jew. Their constant screechings, "The Sky is Falling" in relation to Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatah, and Iran is gettin old and time worn.

 

MEDOLOSS

9:54 AM ET

May 26, 2011

That's the real face of Israel

That's the real face of Israel, they don't want any peace so that they can increase the area they are living on by invading other countries, killing their children, raping their women and killing their men.

Wake up people...

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Medo from homemade hydroponic systems

 

JBIRDMENJ

12:36 PM ET

May 26, 2011

What Israel Wants

Actually, what Israel is willing to negotiate is for a Palestinian state that takes up approximately 22% of Palestine (equal to the size of the West Bank and Gaza combined), but a Palestinians state that doesn't threaten Israel, recognizes Israel as a Jewish state and accepts that the right of return for Palestinians is to the new Palestinian state, not to Jewish Israel.

What the Palestinians seem willing to negotiate, if you take what they say at face value, is a Palestinian state on almost all the land Israel captured from Jordan and Egypt in the Six Day war, with little or no changes to accomodate the last 44 years, and insist on the right of return to Israel, not to the Palestinian state.

Since Israel is not willing to negotiate about a Palestinian right of return, the Palestinians are going to the UN.

It also seems that even President Obama hopes to find a new Israel leader he can pressure into negotiating about the right of return, since Netanyahu is not willing to budge on it.

 

JACOB BLUES

11:11 AM ET

May 26, 2011

About six weeks ago HAMAS drilled an anti-tank missile into an

Israeli school bus.

This wasn't one of those so-called home-made rockets that HAMAS has been launching on a daily basis for years, but a high-tech laser guided weapon aimed at a transport vehicle designed to carry several dozen children.

HAMAS aimed specifically at the bus and pulled the trigger. At that point, how much time this organization devotes to education, health care, and social services gets tossed out the window.

As for their 'world view', let's remember this is the Palestinian group that broadcast their show "Farfur the Mouse" teaching Palestinian children how to become suicide bombers, with a graduation goal of acheiving martyrdom.

It's amazing how people will try to delude themselves into what 'moderation' such organizations will take. HAMAS doesn't compromise, and like the Taliban, set fire to institutions such as bars and restaurants it found serving alcohol, even to non-Muslims. It's members also shot other Palestinians that they thought were breaching social tradition by appearing in public when they shot to death a couple in Gaza who were engaged to be married.

 

TRC6111

12:24 PM ET

May 26, 2011

Agreed

The BTK Serial Killer in Topeka, Ks was a boy scout and church leader. The fact he was involved with the scouts and his church didn't remove the fact he was serial killer. Any time you have to put a "BUT" in the beginning of an article to make your point, chances are you're glossing over the real issue to make it sound like you have a point.

For the most part I agree with the author, but your point is right - you cannot Saint a Priest who spent his days at the alter and his nights murdering children and drinking their blood. That's actually a pretty good analogy for off the cuff...

 

ZORRO

12:16 PM ET

May 26, 2011

More of the Same

Before Palestinian "unity" Bibi couldn't negotiate because they were splintered, now he can't negotiate because they are united.
Could it be that Bibi does not want to negotiate period? Surprise. Not.

Eventually the 400 million (?) arabs will get their shit together. What will happen to Bibi (or his descendants) then? He should quit while he's ahead.

 

PUPIL

2:40 PM ET

May 26, 2011

What will happen?

Eventually the 400 million arabs will get their shit together. What will happen to Bibi then?

I am not concerned about Bibi. He is an Israeli, his desert shack is far from these shores.

But what will happen to you after 400 million arabs will get their shit together? They got their little shit together and dropped it on New York, Washington, and Pennsylvania around 10 years ago. You did not like that shit.

What will happen to you when they get their big shit together?

 

BAYWATCH

12:40 AM ET

May 27, 2011

Clarification

To understand the differences between Hamas’s national focus and Al-Qaeda’s primarily global focus, it is important to remember that historically Al-Qaeda did not emerge from the struggle for Palestine or any of the Arab-Israeli wars.

Instead, Al-Qaeda was born in 1989 right after the Soviet defeat in Afghanistan, where Muslim militants defeated a superpower. As a result karmaloop codes, Al- Qaeda's entire focus has been global, right from the start. H

 

PUPIL

12:56 PM ET

May 26, 2011

Educational efforts

After reading this incredible passage -

Hamas ... devotes much of its attention to education, health care, and social services. Like it or not, by caring for the poor and teaching the next generation of Muslims about its view of the world, Hamas is fundamentally reshaping Palestinian society.

- I fell in love with Hamas.

So called murder (maybe properly called an act of resistance?) of the schoolboy has already helped me to move away from my position of neutral observer of the brave Islamic Resistance Movement to a staunch supporter of its health care and educational efforts.
Hamas influence is already fundamentally changing our own American society and our basic world views on the educational services and medical procedures administered to the Jewish (and potentially Evangelical?) youth.

I welcome this article as a fresh and bold contribution to our ongoing discussion about the future of our own financially stressed Medicare and other Social Services. While the Jews do not constitute very large percentage of the US population, we can still save a sizable chunk of taxpayer's money by reducing their ranks. We can expect more gains from the final solution of the Evangelical problem.

As I said, we should not shy away from considering new and unorthodox roads to lasting Middle East peace. By learning from other cultures - like Hamas - we shall also strengthen our own American Socialist Foundations. - Thank you, Byman, for opening the door for such a great discussion!

 

KUNINO

4:41 PM ET

May 26, 2011

A bad case of the clap

What netanyahu had to tell the body had no surprises, and little sign that he really wants peace and fair-sharing on any realistic terms whatever.

The real and disgusting surprise was the way Congresspersons turned the event into a physical ordeal of cheerleading (some) and cheergrovelling (most). Netanyahu is supposed to have been interrupted by applause 59 times,, which means the proud parliamentarians were stuck with 59 Jack&Jill-in-the-box impressions of people who understood what he was saying, and approved of it enthusiastically. But looking at how many of these lovefests were assembled showed that few of those participating had their attention focussed on the speaker. They were looking at the first leapers among whom they sat, and not caring to seem outloved (to Jewish viotersd) by those athletic trailblazers.

I suspect that when they'd cooled down and washed their faces, none took the trouble to read the speech through. But assuming some did -- a generous act -- I suggest quite a few would have been somewhat embarrassed by their beagle hound acceptance of it.

 

ANONMOOS

2:33 AM ET

May 29, 2011

Israel's view of Hamas -- it's not just the terrorism

Many Israelis clearly remember that Adolf Hitler announced his exact intentions and future program of action in 1923 in "Mein Kampf", but most at the time dismissed it as Munich beer-hall maunderings, and few people outside Germany took it all that seriously even after 1933, when many still thought that it was merely rhetorical, and "largely pandering to his [political] base" (to paraphrase Byman). One of the meanings of "Never Again" is that the Israelis are determined never to treat lightly the bloodthirsty genocidal threats of their self-proclaimed enemies -- if a group proclaims that its goal is to throw the Jews into the sea, then Israel proceeds under the assumption that its goal is to throw the Jews into the sea. That's part of what the endless wrangling over the wording of the PLO charter was about in the 1990's, and it's a large part of why Israel has refused to directly engage with Hamas for the past 10 years. Words have consequences, whether you like it or not.

 

PERSON_GUYZ

2:17 AM ET

June 23, 2011

“We must expel Arabs and take

“We must expel Arabs and take their places.” -David Ben Gurion, 1937, 'Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs', Oxford University Press, 1985 bestwaystoearnmoneyonline.A group proclaims that its goal is to throw the Jews into the sea, then Israel proceeds under the assumption that its goal is to throw the Jews into the sea.