Showdown in Tehran

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is fighting for his political survival. But that doesn't mean his clerical enemies will be the winners.

BY VALI NASR | JUNE 23, 2011

While much of the Middle East is in the throes of a historic struggle for democracy, Iran's main political fissure pits the clerical establishment against muscular, nationalist upstarts who seek to usurp power. And in this contest between Iran's elite factions, the world should be rooting for the clergy.

The primary players in this battle are President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The two forged an ideological alliance in 2005 and worked closely to crush the "Green Movement" after the disputed 2009 election. They are now engaged in a public spat over the spoils of power and, more importantly, over the proper interpretation of the Shiite fundamentalist ideology that inspired the 1979 Islamic Revolution. The contest spilled dramatically into public view in April over Ahmadinejad's ultimately unsuccessful attempts to dismiss Iran's intelligence minister, and again this week with the forced resignation and arrest of the deputy foreign minister, an ally of the president's chief of staff, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei.

The political bickering masks a more fundamental dispute over the direction of the Shiite fundamentalist ideology that Iran's theocracy draws its legitimacy from. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini guided the 1979 revolution through a mix of religious zealotry and leftist revolutionary activism, with the aim of fomenting class war set to an Islamic tune. The Islamic state he envisioned was a dictatorship of the proletariat ruled by the clergy; in homage to Plato's Republic, Khomeini privileged a class distinguished by its education in Islamic law. He advanced the claim that, in the absence of the Shiite messiah, the Hidden Imam, they represent him in the world. And Khomeini assumed the position of the cleric supreme, vali-e faqih, the all-knowing philosopher-king with divine political authority.

The Islamic and the leftist components of Khomeinism came apart after his death in 1989. Exhausted by war and revolution, Iran opted for normalcy. Those interested in the Islamic aspect of the revolution, the so-called conservatives, gathered around Khamenei. They ended revolutionary activism, opened the economy to private-sector activity, and erected an authoritarian theocracy run by the supreme leader.

Meanwhile, the more radical Jacobin faction, which fed on revolutionary activism and favored a socialist economy, was pushed to the margins, only to resurface in the late 1990s in the guise of reformists. So it is that Mir Hossein Mousavi, the leftist prime minister of the 1980s, has emerged as the face of the Green Movement.

Conservatives and reformists-cum-reconstructed-leftists have fought over power for the past two decades. Reformists have placed their hopes in elections and a Vatican II-style transformation of Shiite theology. Conservatives have resisted tampering with both religion and ideology and have used brute force to hold on to power. In the process, Iran's Shiite fundamentalist ideology, shorn of its leftist legacy, turned stolid and unpopular, and the regime turned to repression to survive.

Ahmadinejad arrived on the scene in 2005 promising to breathe new life into the dying revolution by combining religious fundamentalism with Iranian nationalism and economic populism. This formula -- the same one Khomeini had used to dominate the revolution in 1979 -- proved to be a clever political strategy that won him the presidency. But the promise of unending revolution came crashing down in the 2009 election, when reformists mounted a winning election campaign and then brought millions into the streets to protest the fraudulent results.

What Ahmadinejad preached posed a direct threat to the supreme position of clergy in the Islamic Republic. The president and his circle of advisors are of the view that, because of the Islamic Revolution and his defeat of the reformist challenge, Iran is now a genuinely Islamic state, and the state should take over the role of the clergy.

This only confirms the singular importance of the Islamic Revolution to Shiite history and theology. If, as Khomeini claimed, the Islamic Republic is the embodiment of a just and sacred government, Shiites no longer need the clergy as the anchor of their faith. Holiness rests in the state and not the guardians of the state. The idea appeals to the muscular nationalism and Bonapartist ambitions of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), which believes that military might, rather than clerical leadership, sustain Iran against domestic and foreign enemies.

Many Iranians dismiss Ahmadinejad's cultish messianism as no more than boorish superstition and clever political positioning. The clerics see it as a direct threat. Since taking office, Ahmadinejad has charged his cabinet to sign a pledge committing them to serve the Hidden Imam, peppered his speeches with messianic themes, and even claimed that he leads the "Hidden Imam's government." It is a folksy but religiously charged proposition.

Ahmadinejad was ridiculed when a video clip showed him bragging to a senior ayatollah that the Shiite messiah had visited him during his 2005 address before the United Nations. The larger message, which was not lost on skittish ayatollahs, was that the lay president was giving notice that the messiah favored him over the clerics. Mashaei, Ahmadinejad's close advisor, has been blunter, declaring that Shiism can and should do without clerics and that the Islamic Republic no longer needs a supreme leader.

Unsurprisingly, many in Iran have come to see Ahmadinejad as the Shiite Martin Luther, determined to break the clergy. Senior ayatollahs have accordingly criticized the president at every turn and refused to receive him or his representatives in the holy city of Qom.

Ahmadinejad may believe the Hidden Imam is on his side, but for now Khamenei holds most of the cards: He controls the media and can mobilize the parliament, judiciary, and security forces against the president. Still, Ahmadinejad's ouster may not herald the death of his brand of Khomeinism. That will depend on how ambitious military leaders react and whether Ahmadinejad's base among the poor stays by his side. For now, both the IRGC and the base are divided over their allegiance to old Khomeinism and support for Ahmadinejad's new variety.

Around the region, Ahmadinejad has had little impact. The Shiite revival in the Arab world, which started in Iraq in 2003 and spread across the region, looks to the Iraqi Shiite religious center Najaf's quietist brand of the faith for inspiration. In pockets of Bahrain, Iraq, and Lebanon, where Khomeinism commands support, fealty belongs to Khamenei. The supreme leader has even bypassed Ahmadinejad's government and assigned a trusted advisor to oversee relations with Hezbollah.

Yet any victory the clergy could win against this new upstart will only be a Pyrrhic one. Ahmadinejad is a threat to clerical supremacy, but without him, Khomeinism is even more vulnerable to reformist challengers. The alternative would be a right-wing ideological state -- nationalist, fundamentalist, populist, and ruled by militarism, something akin to the Japan of the 1930s. And that cannot last. In this contest between Iran's elite factions, the world should be rooting for the clergy -- their victory will bring about the quickest end to the Islamic Republic.

BEHROUZ MEHRI/AFP/Getty Images

 SUBJECTS: MIDDLE EAST
 

Vali Nasr is a professor of international politics at the Fletcher School at Tufts University, and the author of Forces of Fortune: The Rise of the New Muslim Middle Class and What It Will Mean for Our World.

LOGICAL123

7:32 PM ET

June 23, 2011

A sinister rooting strategy to nowhere!

Mr. Nasr proposes a sinister "rooting" strategy for the break-up of the Islamic Republic of Iran by wishing that the clergy will win its current dispute with the Ahmadinejad faction. His argument is that then the Islamic Republic will be broken up more easily. But, the question is what will replace it? Also, rooting and wishing are useless ideas. Nothing happens by wishing. As a former adviser to the Obama Administration, it seems that, like the Administration itself, he has no proposed strategy to deal with Iran except for continuing the current idiotic policy of repeating the lies about Iran's development of nuclear weapons. Until the US and its allies stop these nonsensical claims that have been refuted even by the 2011 NIE, the US is actually helping to perpetuate the clerical regime in Iran.

Mr. Nasr has an interesting view of Ahmadinejad and his allies. Certainly, the religiosity of Ahmadinejad is almost laughable. However, Mr. Nasr's claim that Iran without the current clerical domination of the government will be a militarist regime like the Japan of 1930's is far-fetched. The emphasis on Iran rather than Islam would in fact bring Iran to a more normal state of mind than its current orientation. However, here also there is a need for the US to make a fundamental change in its approach to Iran. The current irrational Iranophobia and antagonism must end.

Finally, Mr. Nasr repeats the oft-repeated false claims about the 2009 presidential election in Iran. He says, "reformists mounted a winning election campaign and then brought millions into the streets to protest the fraudulent results." In fact, multiple polls both before and after the election showed that Ahmadinejad had about 60% support. The demonstration by the intelligentsia in the north of Tehran was not indicative of feelings in the rest of of the population of Iran.

A key idea that one would hope Mr. Nasr could have addressed is what will happen when Khamenei passes from the scene. It seems that now is the opportune time for the US to get ready for this eventuality. By continuing the current antagonism towards Iran, the US is guaranteeing that the next government of Iran will be even more anti-American than the current one. On the other hand, if there is a fundamental change in Washington, perhaps, a transformation of Iran will lead to a better relations with the US.

 

LOGICAL123

10:32 AM ET

June 24, 2011

The Idiotic US policy towards Iran

I have seen your posts in the Washington Post and other places and I agree with most of what you say usually. My main point is that the idiotic policy of the US towards Iran is increasing the likelihood that the Iranian Mullahs or Islamic radicals will maintain their power in that country.

Obama is a huge disappointment and apparently either Nasr never had anyone's ear or he is also one of the neo-cons who wants to perpetuate the ridiculous accusations against Iran. Surely, he knows that Iran is not building any nuclear weapons. The latest NIE (2011) confirms this fact. I assume you have seen Seymour Hersh's article in the New Yorker of June 6, 2011. So, why is Obama continuing this ridiculous charade? I suppose he cannot look weak towards Iran until the 2012 elections. But, I doubt if he will change if he wins the election. In particular, Hillary Clinton and Dennis Ross are horrible appointments that have to go. Another strong influence is the Israeli lobby that benefits from the antagonism towards Iran.

I don't think the so-called Green Movement is a viable force since its supposed leaders Mousavi and Karoubi belong to the old guard and are obsolete themselves. The transformation of Iran is going to be difficult. If order breaks down, no one can predict what will happen. So, in a way, the system that they have saves them from chaos. Of course, I am vehemently opposed to the clerical rule and the power of religion. But, the fear of the US is limiting what changes can come about in Iran. So, the adoption of a rational approach towards Iran by the US will go a long way to allowing internal forces to bring about a more democratic and less theocratic regime there.

 

MARKUP

6:31 PM ET

June 24, 2011

break-up?

"Mr. Nasr proposes a sinister "rooting" strategy for the break-up of the Islamic Republic of Iran ...."
Where did he say break up? He didn't. Mr. Nasr said "the ... end to the Islamic Republic." But break up sound more anti-Iranian doesn't it? Fits in with the line of IRI=strong Iran
As for the question "what will replace" the IRI, how about a democracy?

 

LOGICAL123

11:59 AM ET

June 25, 2011

Words, words

You are quibbling about words. Break up or "end to the Islamic Republic" is practically the same as far as I am concerned. I did not mean that he wants Iran to break up geographically. Actually, some in the US are attempting a physical breakup of Iran by encouraging and funding ethnic and religious minorities such as Sunnis, Azeris, Kurds and Arabs to rebel against the Iranian central government.

I am certainly in favor of a democratic Iran. But, such a goal is not easily achieved. You cannot suddenly create a democratic country. The US is certainly not a model of democracy either. Elections are all about money here, while the Republicans and Democrats have a monopoly on the elections. Also, Congress is completely in the pocket of special interests. So, the US model is totally bankrupt.

 

SANTI

9:36 PM ET

June 26, 2011

@ Tarq

People generally resist doing their own thinking, and opt to follow popular notions. A basic short coming of we human beings everywhere.

Waiting indoors within the safety of family privacy. Waiting for a break in the harsh political climate that poses a severe threat to a person's well-being, should they expose to public scrutiny that their expressed views depart from revolutionary islam.

Spiky gel settings are not going to get it done. Rebellious fashion statements do not protect a member of the dynamic neo-liberalist persuasion from harsh social regulation.

Iran's economic situation is limited in the freedoms offered to entrepreneurs, and the invasive presence of governemt regulation in direct foreign investment ventures further stifles real chances at innovation. There is no way up for these bright-minded young Iranians in business, and there are similar caps on academic and media aspirations.

They must wait for a break in the political climate. The hairdo's are a distraction from cabin fever. Any real inclination to take to the streets and demonstrate, to throw their power behind a popular activism - brutally crushed.

These young Iranians are the natural allies of Asiatic, European and Latino people everywhere. They should be flourishing - striking it rich. Persiana should be one of the most prosperous and productive regions in the world of today.

Darn those arab fundamentalists, and the elitist military and bureaucratic Persians who sell out the hopes of their own people for the sake of preserving what little personal stake in power they have in their own country.

There is no IMPORTANT difference between the hold on power by force of ruthless brutality we see in Iran under the IRGC, and the one preparing to return once more into Afghanistan under the Taliban, and the next one preparing to descend upon Iraq under militant Shi-ism. No different from a prison camp. Work the people to harvest what is required by the powerful elite, and keep them in line. Force their cooperation enough times, and the people will begin to tell lies to themselves to soften the harshness of their confinement.

The moral enforcements and raids to seize free-speech contraband - - those are not razor-wire around us. No those things keep our youth from becoming the decadent un-islamic agents of satan that we see spreading evil and harm outside these concertina fences. These barbed-wire fences keep those bad people with pink and blue hair, tatoos, and violent tendencies out. We are safe in here.

I root for the population of persians living inside the impoundment that is Iran. I root for their tendency towards an open society, their inventiveness, and their patience and resourcefulness. I do not root for their captors.

I am dismayed that the international recognition of these peole, and their barely-restrained potential to become a great nation under a different government, is given NO sustained media attention.

CNN keeps an open channel called Eye in India. OK great. Not showing us the several sides to the stories it selects for public consumption, but a great gesture.

Eye on Persia? or more like... WTF is a Persia? Ohhh! that Persia. That's not a country. India is a country.

Does this point resonate with you Tarq? Persian NATION? as compared to what you see right now.

I know the Author of the power struggle article we are commenting on is aware of the underlying nation of well-endowed people within Iran's borders. He seems pre-occupied with their captors, though. Hijacking a nation to end a dictatorship, and then landing everyone in a repressive confinement, now they repackage the justification for confinement every few years, and reshuffle which guard stands behind the megaphone. That looks like choice, and like stuff is changing.

Economic populism planted some new crops on the prison farm and started some new projects in the prison factory. Trusteeship was enlarged somewhat, to improve the line of loyal informants into each opposition's camp.

Iran has a bright future as a world power. Every Iranian can look with pride at the acheivements of their oppressive leaders and the products coming out of their factories.

And on Brutality and Ruthless Oppression Day, they can look at the world outside the fence and boo them.

I root for the Persian people. I don't see them catching a break anytime soon, but I root for them anywayz.

 

AND REW

7:54 PM ET

June 23, 2011

Completely Mistaken

I think Mr. Nasr has got it quite wrong. If there is one force right now that has the ability to shatter the foundation of the Islamic Republic, it is no one but Ahmadinejad.

I think we should be rooting for him, or the least, for a continued fight between the two, not because one is better or morally superior to the other, but because they are simply digging each other's grave.

If the mullah's win, it all goes back to the first square, nothing interesting. But if Ahmadinejad (who I think can't WIN, but can harm considerably) scores, we can hope of seeing the regime weakened.

 

THE GLOBALIZER

8:09 PM ET

June 23, 2011

No.

Root for the showdown, not for a side.

Iran's contradictions are coming into full view -- let's root for that to continue.

 

XENOPHON

7:48 AM ET

June 24, 2011

Contradictions

"Iran's contradictions are coming into full view..."

So are ours.

 

BUBBLE BURSTER

9:31 PM ET

June 23, 2011

like 1941

This seems akin to picking a side between Stalin and Hitler in 1941. I just want to see them pummel each other. For me, I root for the Movement.

 

PULLER58

11:50 PM ET

June 23, 2011

Showdown?

Neither side will risk taking things to the limit, so I think they'll be a truce called and things worked out to everyone's satisfaction.

 

ROMAN GIL

7:55 AM ET

June 24, 2011

The USA Has a -$58 Trillion Net Worth. Foreign Affairs Must End

Obama Is Violating The U.S. Constitution. Congress is now irrelevant. Endless Presidential Unconstitutional Wars Financed By Debt.

The U.S. Congress has abdicated its powers to the Executive and Judicial Federal government branches. We are on the road to Presidential tyranny. One person cannot have the power to commit America to war or to do acts that may lead to war. This is the job of Congress and this power can never be trusted to one man. Obama attacked Libya without obtaining Congressional approval. Obama went farther forging ahead boldly with his “handlers”; he ignored the Congressional “War Powers” law that requires Presidents to obtain Congressional approval for military actions 90 days after they started.

The U.S. Constitution gives Presidents only the war power to react to a threat or an actual attack, not the power to personally authorize acts of war, including economic sanctions or starting wars.

Another serious crime against the Constitution, Obama refuses to enforce Federal laws that he does not like including the immigration laws, and obstructs and threatens States like Arizona that wish to enforce the laws that Obama refuses to enforce. Congress is failing to exert its Constitutional powers to balance the Executive branch.

Federal judges now routinely nullify laws passed by millions of voters. This is legislating from the bench against the rights of the States. The Arizona law that provided for enforcement of existing Federal immigration laws by the State police forces is an example of judicial tyranny because it was effectively neutered by a Federal judge. In my blog I have a program to rebuild the American industrial economy that the globalists exported to China and other cheap (a polite way of saying slave labor) countries. I will be adding how to restore Washington’s constitutional republic before we lose our freedom. The globalists control media and the government key positions. I explain the globalist anti-American ideology and how it has ruined America and now Europe. I included Washington's "Farewell Address" advice to the American people and highlighted the parts that we are violating with ruinous results.

Even the Communist Chinese President does not have Obama’s war and executive powers. In the Chinese Communist dictatorship, the President of China must obtain the approval of the Communist Party Central Committee to do what Obama does independently and he must enforce all Chinese Communist laws.

We have to defend the Constitutional balance of powers between the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government and the complete system of checks and balances that the Constitution created. Congress must demand that all laws must be enforced by the Executive branch and that the Constitutional balance of powers must be restored.

Roman Gil
http://roman-gil1.blogspot.com

 

MCGANNONMA

1:37 PM ET

June 24, 2011

would someone moderate this guy

STOP posting this same reply in every article, go use twitter to advertise your blog

 

STEVE_M

10:20 PM ET

June 24, 2011

Agree with moderating Roman

He has about two or three posts that he reuses. I've read one of his long-winded articles on his blog...many of his points are poorly constructed.

 

EPAMINONDAS

12:01 PM ET

June 24, 2011

Mr Nasr, you are out of your gourd

So allow me to quote Jubal Early ... "I wish all those people were already dead an in hell"

You want us to to choose the racist genocidal mullahs over the racist genocidal hojatieh inspired mahdist freaks on the other side?

I'd support a group seeking to smuggle M-16's into the nation.

Not a choice of one evil a microgram less evil than another.

 

AARKY

1:26 PM ET

June 24, 2011

It's Much to do About Nothing

I'm still laughing over Ahmedinejad's close association with the hidden Imam. This man could run for US Senator in the southern US and win. He would just have to shout "Sweet Jesus" instead of "My Imam Loves Me" and all the Shiite Baptists would rush out to vote for him. That little rascal has stolen all the campaign tricks of the southern politicians. Most of the posters here realize that US foreign policy in relation to Iran is dictated by the Zionists in the US and Israel. Until that strangle hold is broken, we will have Hillary types along with compliant members of Congress screeching that the Iranains are bulding Nukes.

 

LOGICAL123

6:43 PM ET

June 24, 2011

Your put your finger on it

Excellent observation. I really liked the comment about Southern Baptists. Americans really take this stuff seriously. Ahmadinejad seems to operate at two levels. At one level he is very rational and at another level he is as crazy as these Southern Baptists. But, at least he believe in evolution, I think.

 

PIROUZ

1:32 PM ET

June 24, 2011

what's happened to Nasr?

"Fraudulent" election?

Come, come, Mr. Nasr. Surely, you know this not to be the case.

And still with the 1930s Japan analogy? What county has Iran invaded?

Let the Iranians do their own figuring in Iran, while we "root" for things here in our country. Live and let live, Vali.

 

ANDREWP111

10:09 PM ET

June 24, 2011

I'm rooting for Ahmadinejad

I'm rooting for Ahmadinejad. He is the most likely to actually fight a nuclear war with Israel, and that is the one and only way the accursed Islamic Republic can be brought to a decisive and final demise.

 

LOGICAL123

10:27 PM ET

June 26, 2011

Keep dreaming

Ahmadinejad is not stupid and he has no power over the military. So, you are wasting your time waiting for anything to happen.

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

4:48 AM ET

June 25, 2011

Can't help liking the man

A very versatile man, Ahmadinejad. Since it is fruitless to confront passion with reason, he carries two sets of gloves and is deft with both. Look at the way he riles Netanyahu, adopting an air of elegant detachment while voicing sentiments that turn the other apoplectic. It works every time. I have never seen him lose his cool but if he ever does, I’ll bet it is calculated to the last tremor.

 

NATTYBUMPO

11:58 AM ET

June 25, 2011

It is just me, or does anyone

It is just me, or does anyone else think of George Wallace when the name Mahmoud Ahmadinejad comes up?

 

LOGICAL123

12:03 PM ET

June 25, 2011

It is just you!

The title says it all!

 

NATTYBUMPO

12:10 PM ET

June 25, 2011

The alleged "Jacobins"

The faction Nasr refers to called itself the "maktabis", or radicals, in the first decade and a few years past of the Islamic Republic. This was only because they favoried a Soviet-style state economy. They also referred to themselves as the Followers of the Line of the Imam, and formed the dominant faction in the Majlis and in the Jame'e-e Rowhaniyat-e Mobarez (Combatant Clergy Association). The faction included all of the major figures of today, with the exception of Yazdi and Ahmadinejad. It was led by Khomeini's son, Ahmad, father of Hassan, until he joined with Rafsanjani and Khamenei to create a different center of power. After that, the Follower of the Line of the Imam were led by Prime Minister Moussavi and Deputy Speaker Karroubi. The maktabis delivered such gifts to Iran as the Cultural Revolution, the Reign of Terror, the unnecessary prolongation of the Iran-Iraq War, the Prison Massacres, the suffocation of literary and artistic expression, etc. Saeed Hajjarian, former Vice Minister of Intelligence and Security for Political Affairs, developed the idea of teh maktabis rebranding themselves to regain power, as "reformists".

 

ALEXANDER JAMES

1:48 PM ET

June 26, 2011

Who wins in secular vs religious

Religious vs secular is an old age game played out in history and will continue to ripple through time. Iran has a long and proud history on the world stage so this is no surprise what's going on here.

The Ayatollah vs Ahmadinejad is certainly something we've not heard the last of. If we can peel ourselves away from download movies, TV news broadcast, YouTube, the internet and all the other distractions long enough to care maybe some change can be brought to Iran.

Until the people wake up internally though and demand a different direction nothing will happen. There will have to be a clear victor rallying their supporters for the secular movement or for the religious path.

 

SANTI

9:40 PM ET

June 26, 2011

Root for the ones who will pay the bill for the whole thing

People generally resist doing their own thinking, and opt to follow popular notions. A basic short coming of we human beings everywhere.

Waiting indoors within the safety of family privacy. Waiting for a break in the harsh political climate that poses a severe threat to a person's well-being, should they expose to public scrutiny that their expressed views depart from revolutionary islam.

Spiky gel settings are not going to get it done. Rebellious fashion statements do not protect a member of the dynamic neo-liberalist persuasion from harsh social regulation.

Iran's economic situation is limited in the freedoms offered to entrepreneurs, and the invasive presence of governemt regulation in direct foreign investment ventures further stifles real chances at innovation. There is no way up for these bright-minded young Iranians in business, and there are similar caps on academic and media aspirations.

They must wait for a break in the political climate. The hairdo's are a distraction from cabin fever. Any real inclination to take to the streets and demonstrate, to throw their power behind a popular activism - brutally crushed.

These young Iranians are the natural allies of Asiatic, European and Latino people everywhere. They should be flourishing - striking it rich. Persiana should be one of the most prosperous and productive regions in the world of today.

Darn those arab fundamentalists, and the elitist military and bureaucratic Persians who sell out the hopes of their own people for the sake of preserving what little personal stake in power they have in their own country.

There is no IMPORTANT difference between the hold on power by force of ruthless brutality we see in Iran under the IRGC, and the one preparing to return once more into Afghanistan under the Taliban, and the next one preparing to descend upon Iraq under militant Shi-ism. No different from a prison camp. Work the people to harvest what is required by the powerful elite, and keep them in line. Force their cooperation enough times, and the people will begin to tell lies to themselves to soften the harshness of their confinement.

The moral enforcements and raids to seize free-speech contraband - - those are not razor-wire around us. No those things keep our youth from becoming the decadent un-islamic agents of satan that we see spreading evil and harm outside these concertina fences. These barbed-wire fences keep those bad people with pink and blue hair, tatoos, and violent tendencies out. We are safe in here.

I root for the population of persians living inside the impoundment that is Iran. I root for their tendency towards an open society, their inventiveness, and their patience and resourcefulness. I do not root for their captors.

I am dismayed that the international recognition of these peole, and their barely-restrained potential to become a great nation under a different government, is given NO sustained media attention.

CNN keeps an open channel called Eye in India. OK great. Not showing us the several sides to the stories it selects for public consumption, but a great gesture.

Eye on Persia? or more like... WTF is a Persia? Ohhh! that Persia. That's not a country. India is a country.

Does this point resonate with you Tarq? Persian NATION? as compared to what you see right now.

I know the Author of the power struggle article we are commenting on is aware of the underlying nation of well-endowed people within Iran's borders. He seems pre-occupied with their captors, though. Hijacking a nation to end a dictatorship, and then landing everyone in a repressive confinement, now they repackage the justification for confinement every few years, and reshuffle which guard stands behind the megaphone. That looks like choice, and like stuff is changing.

Economic populism planted some new crops on the prison farm and started some new projects in the prison factory. Trusteeship was enlarged somewhat, to improve the line of loyal informants into each opposition's camp.

Iran has a bright future as a world power. Every Iranian can look with pride at the acheivements of their oppressive leaders and the products coming out of their factories.

And on Brutality and Ruthless Oppression Day, they can look at the world outside the fence and boo them.

I root for the Persian people. I don't see them catching a break anytime soon, but I root for them anywayz.

 

ANYFICTIONALNAME

10:46 PM ET

June 26, 2011

Why is Saudi Arabia an ally of the US and Iran is not?

Iranian women can vote and run for Parliament, while Saudi's don't allow them to ride a donkey let alone drive a car.

At least there is a kind of "democracy" within the Islamic domain in Iran... there are elections in Iran, while Saudis only had municipality election - exclusively for men voting and nominating - for the first time only in 2005.

This world is strange.

 

BERNARDINA168

10:08 PM ET

July 22, 2011

Showdown in Tehran

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is fighting for his political survival. But that doesn't mean his clerical enemies will be the winners. I'm still laughing over Ahmedinejad's close association with the hidden Imam. This man could run for US Senator in the southern US and win. He would just have to shout "Sweet Jesus" instead of "My Imam Loves Me" and all the Shiite Baptists would rush out to vote for him. That little rascal has stolen all the campaign tricks of the southern politicians. Most of the posters here realize that US fore translation service Iranian women can vote and run for Parliament, while Saudi's don't allow them to ride a donkey let alone drive a car. At least there is a kind of "democracy" within the Islamic domain in Iran... there are elections in Iran, while Saudis only had municipality election - exclusively for men voting and nominating - for the first time only in 2005. This world is strange..

 

PERSON_GUYZZ1

8:46 AM ET

July 23, 2011

Finally, Mr. Nasr repeats the

Finally, Mr. Nasr repeats the oft-repeated false claims about the 2009 presidential election in Iran earnextramoney. He says, "reformists mounted a winning election campaign and then brought millions into the streets to protest the fraudulent results." In fact, multiple polls both before and after the election showed that Ahmadinejad had about 60% support. The demonstration by the intelligentsia in the north of Tehran was not indicative of feelings in the rest of of the population of Iran.