Don't Be Evil

What Google doesn't get about violent extremism -- and how it can do better.

BY WILLIAM MCCANTS | JUNE 30, 2011

Google Ideas, the Silicon Valley giant's self-proclaimed "think/do tank," just wrapped up its Summit Against Violent Extremism in Dublin. According to the director of Google Ideas, former U.S. State Department official Jared Cohen, the purpose of the summit was to "initiate a global conversation on how best to prevent young people from becoming radicalized and how to de-radicalise others." To this end, the summit organizers gathered an impressive array of policymakers, activists, and former militants -- from neo-Nazi skinheads to Islamist radicals to Irish ultranationalists -- to discuss the problem. A worthy endeavor, no doubt.

The conference, as the identity of its host would seem to imply, was heavily focused on the power of technology to combat radicalism. Former militants and aggrieved mothers can dissuade youth from joining violent groups; competing networks can distract them; and outlets for positive activism can channel their energy toward more productive ends. In each area, Cohen says, technology will be the key to "engineer[ing] a turn away from violence." Google Chairman Eric Schmidt, the BBC reports, harbors an "almost messianic conviction that new technology can eventually help prevent angry young men from drifting into a life of violence and extremism."

If these are indeed the conclusions of the conference, Google Ideas needs more thinking and less doing in its approach to countering violent extremism (known as CVE in U.S. government circles). The U.S. government, its allies, and NGOs around the world are already engaged heavily in each of these areas, at least with regard to Islamist radicalization (the major focus of the summit). For them, the primary challenge is not coming up with new solutions, but rather financing them, measuring their effectiveness, and ensuring they do more good than harm.

The funding challenge is daunting. Even in good times, most government money goes toward kinetic solutions to terrorism -- killing or capturing bad guys -- not preventive measures. And we are certainly not in good times now, with Congress slashing programs left and right. In any case, the scope of the radicalization problem is so massive that such programs, even when properly funded, are usually water poured on sand. Private industry and wealthy individuals often delight government agencies and NGOs by dangling donations, but these rarely materialize, have too many strings attached, and are insufficient in any case. Pure volunteer efforts are rare and difficult to sustain.

What's more, those programs that do get funded cannot demonstrate their effectiveness. How does one measure the absence of radicalization? It is difficult to assess through polling because the overall incidence of radicalization is usually so low that it falls within a given survey's margin of error. It is impossible to measure by examining how many people join a positive social network or retweet an anti-extremist message. Did those people ever hold extreme views? If so, did they really abandon their views because they said something moderate, visited a moderate website, or attended a moderate forum? What about all the others who did not join or retweet?

Programs that focus on preventing people from becoming radicals, moreover, risk creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. Their objects often feel singled out and stigmatized, especially Muslims in the West, who already worry they are being surveilled and scapegoated. The British government has recently realized the damage done by combining social programming with counterterrorism work, leading it to declare that it will "make a clearer distinction between our counter-terrorist work and our integration strategy."

Finally, technology is likely enabling, not slowing, the spread of militant ideas. The Internet is a particularly valuable recruitment tool, bringing together extremists from all over the world in a virtual cauldron of hatred and radicalism. YouTube -- which is owned by Google -- is rife with militant propaganda, and militant discussion boards are just a Google search away. With the advent of more insular social networks and targeted searches, the opportunities for being exposed to contrary voices, competing networks, and positive alternatives -- all the things that expose would-be militants to different ways of thinking -- will further lessen.

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William McCants, the founder and co-editor of Jihadica, is a research analyst at CNA's Center for Strategic Studies and an adjunct faculty member at Johns Hopkins University. He most recently served as senior advisor on countering violent extremism in the U.S. State Department's Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism.

HIPBONE

11:49 PM ET

June 30, 2011

keeping up the momentum

McCants is being a bit pushy here, maybe. If the purpose of the conference was, as Jared Cohen is quoted as saying, to "initiate a global conversation" then perhaps we shouldn't focus too much on its "conclusions" just yet, but on the emergent *conversation* itself. Will the conference just wrap itself up neatly as a conference and that's it -- or will it trigger something else?

It seems to have triggered this response from McCants, at least – but where should the conversation go from here? Can Google provide a forum, with some moderation? Could we – gasp! – have the "global conversation" Cohen mentioned?

It's not so much that i want to crowdsource as that I think we need a polyphony of voices, and the cross-over ideas that come from multiple viewpoints. From my POV the conference seems like a good start. But it's just a start...

 

DAIVA66

3:21 AM ET

July 1, 2011

If the U.S. government under

If the U.S. government under President H. W. Bush had been less triumphal and more supportive when Gorbachev was still in power and trying to reform the Soviet Union, there would have been less likelihood of the development of the kleptocracy in Russia and the concomitant people's misery that we saw under the rule of Yeltsin, Gorbachev's successor. Seo

 

HAMMERSMITH

9:15 AM ET

July 1, 2011

hypocrisy

evil, violent extremism, etc., etc., adinfinitim, ad nauseum.

have u ever heard of the u.s. government?

 

FOCUZ

6:17 PM ET

July 3, 2011

Googles stance is just for press

While Google is trying to start campaigns to stop the extremist views they are hosting one of the worlds largest collection of extremist propaganda. YouTube is the biggest source for video footage of every idea whether good or bad.

 

OPOLOPOL3

7:01 PM ET

July 3, 2011

Is google still lovey-dovey with the Government with anti-trust?

Now that google will be the focus of the new anti-monopoly laws that faced microsoft in the 1990's, will they still be a major player for the DOD? Also, it sounds like the author here is advocating that google somehow influences "militant" groups by making it easy for like-minded people to find each other. How is this google's problem? This is simply another result of the information age. boosters

 

MRBAYAN

7:16 PM ET

July 3, 2011

Google is just trying to make its own future..

Now Big G is just trying to make its own future .. Whats the main reason why the google wants alternatife search engines just be a worthless machine , cause it has to be no:1 search eninge..just my opinion.. escor1 bayan,escor1 istanbul

 

DEEVE

1:37 AM ET

July 5, 2011

Google is just being innovative

Google has been expanding for years. It's normal to happen to any large company. Why is everyone so worried about them getting larger? So far I think google has lived up to it's motto of "Don't be evil". Don't you think they are going to keep expanding and trying to be the best they can be? BINGO! You got it! Of course they will!

 

AUKPERSPECTIVE

3:37 PM ET

July 7, 2011

It is a number of overlapping issues?

Quite clearly technology - internet or otherwise - is proving very helpful in combating the negative effects of extremism at least in the West. It is just too difficult for extremists to organize and too easy for law enforcement agencies in the West to monitor their activities.

As regards de radicalisation (or non radicalisation in the first place) in the end we are talking about belief driven behaviour and that is rather resistant to facts, technology or anything else for that matter. I think technology probably helps overall but it is not going to stop a small minority of people being violent animal rights activists, neo nazis or Muslim fanatics any more than it is going to convince creationists of evolution. Where I suspect techology is positive is on their support networks. We now all get to see the unpleasent effects of extremism up close and personal in our sitting rooms something which probably witherw away the support network extremists need for money, shelter or whatever. So unless youe eyes re really closed to reality......

What is very helpful though is that technology - especially the internet, mobile phones, and Web 2.0 - seems to be strengthening the hand of oppressed populations against tin pot dictators. That is a real plus. What for us in the West (I refer to .....) - is some mildly distracting activity to do to while away time if stuck at some tedious event is a a great organizational and information tool in Libya & Syria. Also it is so much harder for totalitarian regimes to arrange a nice little massacre. Anyone with a mobile phone is basically a potential foriegn correspondent. All he/she has to do is press send. That is very bad news if you rely on terror to control your populace.

That is a really great plus I think ................

Any negatives from technology - yup potential to make some really nasty weapons but so far extremists seem not to be too good at getting their act together on that one thank God ...........

I thought it was great that it was a G executive who became the figurehead in Egypt. Karma or what.

I think in the US you can perhaps forget what a great co. G is. Familarity breeds contempt and all that.

 

DOMINIQ32

10:26 AM ET

July 8, 2011

Mike

Are you saying that google will magically get the Middle East to like us? I'm sorry but I don't think this is possible. I do agree with programs that focus on preventing people from becoming radicals, but I don't think google will have an impact. This has to be a human to human interaction. I don't think interaction will do the trick.

 

DOMINIQ32

10:30 AM ET

July 8, 2011

Spotting radicals.

I also agree that the intelligence we get from the terrorists through our own covert cyber teams is to good to risk google screwing something up. They shouldn't interfere when there are military operations currently running in the area. Google seems to want to militarize itself, doesn't it? First google earth, google maps, google spying, google everything!
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MARKVERMOUH

7:38 PM ET

July 10, 2011

Google provides an unbiased free 24 hour info service

You cannot critisize a company for believing in themseves too much. Google provides an unbiased free 24 hour info service that is proven to be more than helpful for the world generally and I do not think the internet would work as well without it. Businesses like music or video dowloads could not exist without it.

Makes it easier for undesirable people to find each other? Yes makes it easier but you can moniter them online too. Makes it easier to learn how to make a bomb? Yes but you can monitor that too.

 

CARDSHARP

4:04 PM ET

July 25, 2011

Oslo was a Jihadi plot right?

I hope McCants' irresponsible speculation is the end of his academic career.

 

LAURINE BACAK

4:08 PM ET

July 29, 2011

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