Knesset of Fools

A harsh new anti-boycott bill will help achieve the exact opposite of what its advocates intended: the delegitimization of the Jewish state.

BY HUSSEIN IBISH | JULY 12, 2011

In the latest of a series of extraordinarily self-defeating moves, Israel's legislature, the Knesset, has just adopted the so-called "Boycott Bill," penalizing any call within Israel to boycott Israel or its settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories. The new law allows for civil suits against boycott supporters, denies them state benefits, and prevents the Israeli government from doing business with them. For a society terrified of what it sees as an international campaign of "delegitimization," its own parliament could not have produced a more stunning blow to Israel's legitimacy by conflating Israel as such with the settlements and the occupation.

Of course this law could not have been otherwise, since virtually all effective BDS (boycott, divestment, sanctions) efforts in the West have been targeted against the occupation and the settlements, not against Israel. Some BDS activists would clearly like to extend this campaign to target Israel proper, but such efforts have met with extremely limited success in Western societies. On the other hand, efforts to express disapproval of Israel's illegitimate settlement activities and therefore also illegitimate goods produced in the settlements have been meeting with a modest but increasing degree of effectiveness.

The "Boycott Bill," therefore, was never really about Israel at all, but about protecting the settlements and the settlers from a growing international campaign to refuse to subsidize a project that is a dagger aimed at the heart of prospects for a viable peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, as well as a blatant violation of international law. City councils and governments in Europe are increasingly distancing themselves from commercial activities connected to the occupation. Norway, for example, divested from Elbit Systems, a company that manufactures sensor devices for the West Bank separation barrier, and subsequently from Africa Israel Investments, which is heavily involved in settlement construction.

The campaign against Israeli settlements is real, but this new law will almost certainly backfire. By crudely conflating Israel -- which is almost universally regarded as a legitimate member state of the United Nations -- with its occupation and settlements in the West Bank -- which are almost universally regarded as illegitimate and indeed illegal, as well as a threat to peace -- the Knesset has yet again provided an official Israeli argument for those who would extend the boycott campaign to include all Israeli institutions and not just aspects of the occupation.

The Israeli government has done this numerous times in the past. For example, when Israel applied for OECD membership, the national economic statistics it presented included the entire settlement economy, but no statistics reflecting the Palestinian villages surrounding the settlements throughout the West Bank. What this suggests is an official Israeli perspective in which there is a virtual Israel that exists wherever a settler happens to be at any given moment, and an undefined, unresolved occupation everywhere else. This legally and politically untenable and indeed preposterous position is similarly reflected in the new "Boycott Bill."

GALI TIBBON/AFP/Getty Images

 

Hussein Ibish is a senior research fellow at the American Task Force on Palestine and blogs at www.ibishblog.com.

AFGHANGOOD

2:07 AM ET

July 13, 2011

Pals with Beck...

Choosing friends like those will likely get you down the path to hell!

 

AHMEDWALID

11:03 AM ET

July 13, 2011

Boycotting Israeli West Bank Products? cut off nose to spite the

face.

This was always a radical elite effort, led by people in the West with no real understanding of what is going on.

There are 20,000 Palestinians legally working in Israeli settlements and their industries. There are an estimated 10,000 more Palestinians working in Israeli settlements without permits. Boycotting produce and a few other products from the settlements will have a minor effect on the Israeli economy, where most products and innovations are made within the Green Line. But, it will have a great effect on the 30,000 plus Palestinian workers employed in the settlements and their families who have few skills and employment prospects within the PA administered territories.

So in addition to harming those "pesky" Jews, the boycott also harms tens of thousands of Palestinians and their families. I have a feeling those Europeans sipping their lattes in trendy cafes hardly thought that through. Same for the college protestors who have nothing better to do with their time.

So this is just someone cutting off the nose to spite the face.

 

BETZ55

7:41 PM ET

July 13, 2011

Israel will continue to destroy iself

When you've been occupying another people for 63 years, confiscating more and more of their land and denying them citizenship while providing it to your own settlers, then sanctions, the BDS movement, isolation, and delegitimization is what you get.

The BDS is growing here in the US. Anything with a barcode that begins 729 is illegal settler squatter goods. Destroy them financially, call it an occupation 'price tag'.

 

IDIOTPRAYER84

8:53 PM ET

July 13, 2011

Sign that non-violence works

These is a big difference between government policy designed to deprive Palestinians basic human rights and private citizens deciding to not buy certain goods due to moral objections. There are plenty of boycotts that I disagree with, but people have the right to not buy certain goods in a democracy. The only thing the Knesset did was to signal that the boycott was working. Now that the Palestinians have finally decided to forgo violence in lieu of non-violent resistance, Israel is freaking out.

 

SEADOG1946

7:47 AM ET

July 14, 2011

maureen snipper - "tonnes of humanitarian aid"

when you cut+paste your remarks from an Israeli hasbarist playbook/site, while trying to pretend that it just now vaulted from your vast store of accumulated knowledge, make sure that you use American english spelling... you do claim to be a US marine... but then perhaps you have a British accent.

 

ARAVAY

4:09 PM ET

July 14, 2011

I remember Seadog from the Boycott

conference. He was the guy with a "free palestine" button on one side of his shit and a nazi swastika button on the other side. He was proud of his online rants and Jew-baiting. He explained why he had both buttons; because both are against Jews, so that is why he supports palestinians and nazis.

Most people at the conference didn't mind.

Second, to the faker posting as "Arvay" nice try. Get a life and stop imitating me. Then again, imitation is the best form of flattery.

 

ARAVAY

4:12 PM ET

July 14, 2011

by the way, the reason "arvay" is doing this

is clearly because he thinks Tarquinis' and my organization "queers for Palestine" harms the cause. He doesn't want to homosexuals out there leading the cause. He's just bigoted.

 

COMETLINEAR

6:51 PM ET

July 14, 2011

Unfortunately, Israel is condemned to a harried existence

I've pretty much concluded that the region will never be any more accommodating to Israel, at least in our lifetime. Israel has a robust military force and an insurance policy in the form of nuclear missiles.

Frankly, I don't even understand why it receives so much attention, but that's a different matter.

For those who do have an interest in human history, this region is unique as the cradle of civilization. These groups have been living among one another for millenia.

You would think the peoples of the region would welcome an Israeli state. To live among each other again, and to celebrate the splendor of the our shared history.

 

TRUTH NOT PARTISAN

4:10 AM ET

July 13, 2011

Keep mentioning

you keep mentioning how the BDS movement is against settlements and occupation but just about everyone i've ever talked to about BDS, from BDS, and their supporters have de-legitimized the actual state of Israel. Countless times I have heard "Israel shouldn't exist", "all of Palestine is occupied", "From the river to the sea",

Don't try and just acknowledge for half a sentence.

 

JBROCKLE

4:24 AM ET

July 13, 2011

Fair enough

But that is totally anecdotal; most of the people I have spoken to about boycotting Israeli goods only want to boycott settlement products. I personally would like to be able toavoid buying anything produced in the settlements, but am fine with products from Israel.

This law is just unbelievably stupid. Criminalising consumer choice in the 'only democracy in the Middle East'?

 

MJKOCH

6:45 AM ET

July 13, 2011

A Light Unto Nations No More

Abe Foxman of the ADL yesterday expressed strong reservations about the Boycott Bill. How long will it be until the Right Wing in Israel and right wing Jews in America begin calling Abe Foxman, a man who has spent his entire life serving the Jewish people, a self hater and enemy of Israel because he had the courage to speak out against this facist bill?

Israeli online media sites have thousands of monthly posts calling any Jew who voted for Obama a self hater, enemy, and traitor and write the same vile words about any Jew who is in favor of a two State solution. Friends of mine who donate to Israel are shocked at the verbal fusilage launched daily on Israeli Internet sites against the Diaspora and anyone who does not agree with the Netanyahu government. It seems that when you spend time reading dozens of the poisonous hatred directed at fellow Jews as well as Israelis who may on the Left that you realize there are few people willing to speak up and not remain silent in the increase of attempts to silence anyone who does not agree with the policies of the current Israeli government and that can only mean very bad things for the future of Israel as a democracy.

There is no reason to utter vile words against other Jews because they oppose the current government in Israel or support a two State solution. Israel is making a mockery of Netanyahu's claim when he spoke before Congress that Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East when other Jews are either silenced or slandered and have their character
attacked and their Jewishness questioned simply because they do not agree with the policies of the Israeli government.

I pray that voices of dissent are never silenced because when that happens the light unto nations that Israel was once thought to be will be nevermore.

 

ARAVAY

10:53 AM ET

July 13, 2011

Tarquinis - preach on brother

next anti-israel conference is coming up in August. We gonna share the same hotel room again? Call me, I know you got my number...wink... wink :)

 

DDSNAIK

11:42 AM ET

July 13, 2011

Tarq, pints on me

I like the part about specifying America's role - get off this bus - rather than focusing on labels of right or wrong as they apply (or don't) to the origins of the conflict OR on the self-defeating actions of a subsegment of the Israeli population which have been highlighted ad nauseum here and in other forums

Cheers

 

ARAVAY

3:04 PM ET

July 13, 2011

DDSNAIK - are you also bi or gay like me and Tarquinis?

We could all share a hotel room at the next divestment conference. Let me know, it's cheaper and a lot more fun with a few men in the room together.

 

ARAVAY

11:18 AM ET

July 14, 2011

The divestment conferences are nothing to laugh about

nor are the people who show up to them. If you have a problem with them, or my sexual-orientation (and that of Tarquinis), I suggest you deal with it on your own, rather than make snide remarks here.

Good attempt at trying to discredit me and other gays, lesbians, and transgenders for the Palestinian cause.

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

9:40 AM ET

July 13, 2011

Not new

I hired a young driver in Jerusalem in 1971 and he told me the pamphlet he was reading while waiting was the history and geography of ‘our new territories’. He would be about 60 now.

 

JACOB BLUES

10:16 AM ET

July 13, 2011

The Palestinian Authority is led by a political organization

that holds up the anti-Semitic forgery "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" as a central part of its political platform. This same group, calls for the destruction of Israel and the killing of its Jewish population.

They shoot rockets at school busses and broadcast TV shows aimed at children, glorifying the murder of civilians through suicide bombers.

Meanwhile, their domestic political opponents openly call for ethnically cleansing any future Palestinian state, and have on their law books, the death penalty for any Palestinian found selling land to Jews.

Yet, neither group, has faced any so-called Boycott movement, indeed, their supporters offer up rataionlizations and excuses for such words and deeds.

But we're supposed to believe Ibish, when he claims that the BDS movement is "only about the settlements".

Sorry, but I'm not buying those beans that he's selling.

 

NEWHERE

8:47 PM ET

July 13, 2011

The point of the article

is that the Knesset is making it impossible to make the distinction themselves.

I believe Israel certainly has the right to exist. The settlements are illegitimate.
While trying to confer legitimacy to the settlements the government is instead tying the legitimacy of Israel to that of the settlements.

Wrong move.

BTW... In reading articles about Israel it does seem some who comment on them didn't read them themselves. Because some Palestinians believe in the protocol of Zion then peace would never be possible?

The status quo is dangerous for Israel yet those who make the point are shouted down or cast as ignorant.

 

NEWHERE

7:00 PM ET

July 14, 2011

Those force of arms

were and are subsidized by our government to our detriment. Our foreign policy is compromised by our unwavering support of Israel. I guess their legitimacy depends on our support.

Quick question: If Arab nations were able to somehow conquer Israel would the new resultant nation be legitimate?

 

POLITICALAGENDA

12:41 PM ET

July 13, 2011

Breach of human rights

I suspect in Europe this would be a breach of our human rights legislation as effects rights of expression & demonstration. That is bad because it is a reasonable unbiased international test of fairness.

It looks like lunacy to me tactically too. It provides a platform for any media savvy boycott group to you know create a really nice warm fuzzy boycott campaign led by say a well known international author then get arrested ... you know the drill.

Israeli government better hope no one with any of the boycott groups knows how to create a PR corporate event or put together a Press conference.

No chance!

 

PALESTINIANFRAGE

12:49 PM ET

July 13, 2011

Abused child

My theory is that Israel is like an abused child that years later grows up to become an abuser. The Palestinians are treated in ways that are reminicent of the Jews in Germany in the run up to Kristalnacht.

Yes, I am aware of the vast differences; however, if you don't buy that analogy try South Africa on for size.

Either way there is a shocking lack of empathy from the government and institutions of Israel for the Palestinians. Sure, Munich and thousands of other atrocities, but at this point wouldn't it be fair to say that both sides have done horrible things?

Boycott Israel - every product and service they produce. This will induce more emigration, likely to the US where they will prosper, be safe and secure. Enough emigration and the whole problem will solve itself for in the end this is a battle of demographics.

That's my answer to the Judenfrrage.

 

ARAVAY

11:21 AM ET

July 14, 2011

Nice false flag posting

This is an example of the extreme wing of the Palestinian supporters. "Arvay" is trying to discredit me by making extreme and violent, war-mongering statements. Queers for Palestine, of which me and Tarquinis support, is moderate and we are constantly having to deal with people trying to discredit us, because they don't like our sexual orientation. Pathetic.

 

SEADOG1946

12:33 PM ET

July 14, 2011

 

AHMEDWALID

12:44 PM ET

July 14, 2011

seadog, you are the guy that called Jews and Arabs

"sandni@@ers" in a another post, and you were proud of it. I don't think you have any right to talk.

 

SEADOG1946

1:29 PM ET

July 14, 2011

achmed, shlomo, maureen or the RAV...

may I post a quote from just one of your previous comments?

by posting your canned, typically Israeli smugness-tinged hasbara/explanations and feigning indignation at expected responses, you are only being an unwelcome group of foreigners who are merely "speaking out your ass".

 

MOUSOMER

1:35 PM ET

July 14, 2011

Wrong comparison - better look at 19th century east-Europe

Nazy Germany is usually a bad example for anything but itself - with the exception of, perhaps, north Korea.
I find it better to equate the Palestinian situation to that of the Jewish diaspora in 19th century east Europe. The state-sponsored persecution is half-hearted, and is more a matter of populist tendencies than a serious consideration. The Israeli state itself suffers from a chronic disability to "make up it's mind" on the Palestinian problem.

There are interesting similarities, and even more interesting differences. It is an especially interesting comparison to make for the Israeli citizens of Arab origin. Like the large Jewish minority of east-Europe, they are beginning to discover the benefits of higher education.

 

AHMEDWALID

2:24 PM ET

July 14, 2011

@ Seadog

I'm not sure how someone saying that you are "speaking out of your ass" is anywhere near as offensive as your racially motivated utterance that Jews and Arabs are "sandni@@ers."

And, when you make such racist statements, I am glad someone tells you that you ARE speaking out of your ass. (though, its probably more true that you are speaking out of a racist, dark heart).

And calling someone "shlomo" is intended as another racist remark, like calling a black man "jamal" or calling a mexican "jose." It's a generic ethnic name that you try to use as an insult. Again, more racism and bigotry from you.

I only want to know when is the next Klan rally you are going to Seadog? Do you hold a leadership position with them?

 

SEADOG1946

5:43 PM ET

July 14, 2011

achmed or shlomo or whatever... " I don't think you have any

right to talk."

Frustrating, isn't it... all that soviet/bolshevik/zionist style commissar thought control you learned during you summer internships at those Israeli kibbutz/collective-farms doesn't seem to be working for you on this forum... try elsewhere, join Likud and get elected to the Knesset.

 

BUDAHH

1:00 PM ET

July 14, 2011

The Arabs have tried to fight Israel through military ways and

lost , than they moved on to terror and suicide bombings in the second Intifada and lost again, now they realized they cannot beat us through force than they are trying to show Israel in a bad light to the world as if they are up with the standard of the western world.

The law is for the purpose of not giving a hand and funding through the government to organizations and people who are working against the country and its interest's, The settlements are legitimate in the eyes of the Israeli government therefore people who take advantage of the Israeli democracy to smear its name should not get government funding and amnesty.

No country in the world would agree to have enemies from within and would charge them with treason.

 

SEADOG1946

6:16 PM ET

July 14, 2011

BUDAHHH - I agree with you statement that

"The settlements are legitimate in the eyes of the Israeli government"... because I understand that the need to control the fresh water sources in the occupied territories is vital to the ongoing existance of Israel.

 

BUDAHH

9:48 PM ET

July 14, 2011

No seadog they are legitimate because its territory won in war

When you are the one who started thewar you don't get it back sorry Jordan gave it up, you know how many territories and misplaced people live in Europe after ww2 .

There was never any sovereign palestinian government or entity there, it was not a country and that land was under Jordanian occupation.

If water was the only problem i am sure the world would have been willing to donate its water to solve it.

Israel will not go back to 1967 lines, because it needs some depth in case of war because with such great neighboors it would be foolish to give them land for war.

There are 22 arab countries if you cared so much about the palestinians you would write articles about how the arab countries should treat the palestinians better and give them citizenship

 

SEADOG1946

5:23 AM ET

July 15, 2011

snipped maureen - I notice that the reponse moderator,

for several previous Steven Walt articles, deleted all (each and every one) of the hasbarist BS rants associated with you. You should take some time off... browse the wares at jdate or go pick up something nice during those delicious "white nights" in the "white city".

 

STFREECHOICE

1:00 PM ET

July 15, 2011

Freedom of choice including to boycott is important

We have just seen in the UK how boycotting of News International papers has helped bring Murdoch's media empire to heel. Freedom of choice to boycott is not only an important human right but can be a very effective way for the public to force change .. for the better. Recent London events show that admirably.

 

SOLOMON2

3:07 PM ET

July 15, 2011

What Ibish doesn't want you to know

There doesn't seem to be much wrong with Israeli economic reporting. What is missing is what the world community doesn't like to acknowledge, the legal status of the West Bank.

The West Bank was part of the League of Nations' British Mandate, which set aside Palestine as the Jewish National Home. The Brits carved 70% of it out to become their dependent kingdom of Jordan in the 1920s. The remaining portion of Palestine was the object of several partition plans for the next twenty years in the League of Nations and its U.N. successor, but these were never voted upon or ratified.

In the 1947 war Jordan occupied and annexed the West Bank. Jordan had no legal right for doing so and only Britain and Pakistan recognized this annexation. Israel pushed Jordan out of the West Bank in the 1967 war.

Yes, legally the West Bank is still part of the British Mandate, and under the terms of the Mandate its territory may be legally settled by Jews as long as the property and civil rights of the Arab population are respected. This is the truth that Mr. Ibish doesn't want his readers to touch, an issue he skirts by simply labeling the settlements as "illegal".

There were a few attempts by Israeli extremists to settle on privately owned Arab land but these were squashed by the Israeli Supreme Court. Israel's settlements are on state land (originally owned by the Ottomans) and the only territory taken rather than purchased from Arabs may be public roads leading to and from the settlements.

Seen in this right, the statistics make sense: the settlers are overwhelmingly Israeli citizens so reporting their economic activity is normal, yet the Arabs of the West Bank are not Israeli citizens so their economic activity is properly omitted from the same statistics.

 

POINTBLANK

1:19 PM ET

August 6, 2011

do not know much about

do not know much about knesset... But i concern about palestine.