A Just War, and an Unfinished One

Recognizing Libya's rebels was the right move by the United States and its allies -- but it's not the only one they have to make.

BY JAMES TRAUB | JULY 15, 2011

A good outcome is still possible in Libya; the decision this morning by a coalition of Western and Middle Eastern states to recognize the transitional government in Benghazi is an important step forward. But success will require patience and persistence from NATO, creativity from the United States, and pragmatism from the rebels. And there is good reason right now to worry about each of those things.

In order to picture the current state of the military campaign in Libya, imagine three lines representing the will and capacity of, respectively, Muammar al-Qaddafi's security forces, the rebels, and NATO. Each line has a different slope, and they will eventually cross. The good news is that Qaddafi's capacity is almost certainly diminishing. A senior NATO official tells me that "60 to 70 percent of Qaddafi's military stocks are destroyed," while "economic sanctions are biting as gasoline diminishes daily in Tripoli." U.S. officials familiar with the intelligence claim that the rebels' attacks on the main pipeline from the main oil refinery at Zawiyah* has sharply reduced Qaddafi's access to fuel, while financial sanctions have prevented him from securing the funds to buy oil on the international energy market. Nevertheless, Qaddafi has proved much more resilient than most people expected. His grip on Tripoli is not threatened, and the stream of high-level desertions he suffered early in the conflict has slowed to a trickle.

The rebels have all the will in the world, but the growth in their military ability has been frustratingly slow. Despite optimistic bulletins from the front that the war will be won in a matter of weeks, their own leaders concede that they're not remotely ready for a direct assault on Tripoli, which in any case would result in massive casualties. Unless the Qaddafi regime implodes, the rebels will have to depend for a long time to come on NATO. But can they?

Four months into the aerial campaign -- already six weeks longer than the 1999 air war over Kosovo -- NATO's arms inventory is running down, albeit far less dramatically so than Qaddafi's. U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta asserted on July 11 that "a lot of these countries" could run through their stock of missiles within 90 days. And patience has begun to dwindle along with stockpiles. Though France has taken the most bellicose posture of any of the allies, French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet recently said that the time had come for the rebels to "get round the table" and negotiate with the regime. This sounds like a sharp change in tone, but when I asked a French diplomat about his country's policy he pointed me to comments by Foreign Minister Alain Juppe on July 11 reiterating the position that Qaddafi can have no place in a future Libyan government. France, he insisted, remained resolute: The National Assembly just voted 482 to 27 in favor of continuing with the bombardment.

American officials are plainly worried about the diminishing line of will. A State Department official pointed out that Qaddafi has a genius for exploiting difference among the allies. At today's meeting in Istanbul of the Libya Contact Group -- an ad-hoc assembly of representatives from NATO and Middle Eastern country and international organizations that convened regularly since April to chart a course forward with the conflict -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton strove to keep the alliance "speaking with one voice," according to this official.

GIANLUIGI GUERCIA/AFP/Getty Images

 

James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

ZORRO

5:53 AM ET

July 16, 2011

Unforseen

The consequences of war are unforeseen only its details. War always leads to chaos and poverty.

The Kosovo war is/was certainly not a success since the EU is still giving money to the terrorists and organ traffickers that run the territory (calling it a state would be a joke).
The Libyan oil might save us from a similar fate there, but I have my strong doubts, Iraq certainly hasn't made it on their own.

 

ALEXREES

2:46 PM ET

July 21, 2011

I think success can be judged

I think success can be judged by the number of people whose massacre was averted. In both cases it was surely in the 1000s.

 

DOVE_VN

11:24 PM ET

July 16, 2011

An advise from Vietnam

The West was engaged in Libyan war by its paranoiac about democracy and by its pragmatism on $30 billion in Libyan assets. Now every one knows that democracy is too nebulous to start the war and $30 billion is the only thing that makes difference between Libya and Syria. So It’s right time for Quaddafi to start the peaceful demonstration in order to make clear the nebulosity of democracy and the authentic owner of $30 billion.

 

BENN3012

9:48 AM ET

July 18, 2011

"A Just War"? I think not...

If this war is to be just is must have a lot more options in outcome than to trade the sovereignty from one party to another. The historical record showing the amalgamation of the Libyan colony then nation from tribal areas, or even provinces, leaves a lot of future causes of conflict that are not addressed by this particular venting of rage. Given the horrors that war unleashes, a just war would promise to address more than just the travails of the last few decades under one despot. Of course that would not assuage the fears of the oil industry who wants the Libyan reserves brought back into production without having to deal with various localities. This is not a step "forward" as much as a step toward the status quo for the European elites who have long dominated North African peoples.

 

DOVE_VN

10:27 PM ET

July 18, 2011

GMMR

Please read some pieces of news about Libya’s Great Man Made River (GMMR), that is nowadays completely forgotten by Western press:

28 August 1984: Muammar al-Gaddafi lays the foundation stone in Sarir area for the commencement of the construction of the GMMR Project.

28 August 1986: Muammar al-Gaddafi inaugurated the Brega plant for the production of the Pre-stressed Concrete Cylinder pipes, which are considered the largest pipes made with pre-stressed steel wire.

26 August 1989: Muammar al-Gaddafi lays the foundation stone for phase II of the Great Man-Made River Project.

Thank to GMMR, Libya is the unique country in the world, where the purest mineral water is available for the all people in everyday use. So remember please, with the GMMR, Gaddafi is an integrated part of Libya’s modern history.

 

CRYSTALBALL

8:36 PM ET

August 8, 2011

A just war but will it create a just peace

Alas just wars do not always lead to just peace(s). Strangely enough this one might. Whilst events might seem to be dragging out this might be a good thing as it gives the rebel leadership time to learn a bit about how to govern. It also very much shows how important the help of the West is something which the rebels have genuinely been singing our praises for. Finally it gives an opportunity for talented people to defect from the Gaddafi regime and also minimizes damage to infrastructure. Of course this still means many of Gaddafi will have to face the music when the time comes. Something which alas may make then want to hold out till the bitter end.

 

FRANCENE MULANEY

10:07 PM ET

August 11, 2011

A Just War, and an Unfinished One

In my opinion
James Traub writes in Foreign Policy on Friday about the meeting in Istanbul with the Libya Contact Group, an assembly of representatives from NATO, Middle Eastern countries, international organizations and the U.S. State Department that spoke on the possibility of a “good outcome” in Libya.  Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that it is essential to “keep the alliance speaking with one voice.
”  The coalition decided on Friday to recognize the transitional council in Benghazi,
however according to Traub, “success will require patience and persistence from NATO,
creativity form the U.S., and pragmatism from the rebels.  And there is good reason right now to worry about each of those things.

Lear more :lexi belle

 

RICKIE124

6:08 AM ET

August 13, 2011

A Just War, and an Unfinished One

Recognizing Libya's rebels was the right move by the United States and its allies -- but it's not the only one they have to make. Alas just wars do not always lead to just peace(s). Strangely enough this one might. Whilst events might seem to be dragging out this might be a good thing as it gives the rebel leadership time to learn a bit about how to govern. It also very much shows how important the help of the West is something which the rebels have genuinely been singing our praises for. Finally it gives an opportunity for he said If this war is to be just is must have a lot more options in outcome than to trade the sovereignty from one party to another. The historical record showing the amalgamation of the Libyan colony then nation from tribal areas, or even provinces, leaves a lot of future causes of conflict that are not addressed by this particular venting of rage. Given the horrors that war unleashes, a just war would

 

RUDDERMANN

12:45 AM ET

August 14, 2011

Libya's rebels to reorganize their leadership

Before lauding removing this council, would not it be a good idea to see who the dismissed members are replaced by? Are you aware the dismissed finance minister was a united states citizen who left his job here and relocated to Benghazi to contribute his significant no nonsense muscle building fitness techniques towards the cause? Again, giddy hurrahs for anything the rebels do, once the the fact is the group is a lot more worried about establishing a powerful Islamic state where the constitution is dependent on the Quron - instead of the secular Islamic suggest that existed under Gaddafi (based on two independent French research teams). How intelligent could it be to get rid of a secular regime to create an Iranian-style regime? Not so.

 

MARRIOND

12:59 PM ET

August 14, 2011

Libya is still in bloody war

Libya is still in bloody war and things have changed only as much that Gaddafi has more power now than a month or two months ago. The international community has done what it often does, they tried to do something but they weren't really committed to do enough. Why is this so is another matter, be it their own problems, financial and economic crisis or whatever. The point remains the dictator is sitting on his berber carpet with his generals and secret service holding berber carpet tiles and killing the rebels easily. He has enough funds to pay for his fighters and enough time as he knows the West has problems of its own. And now what? Same old, same old. The common people will suffer and the leaders will rule on as if nothing happened. Sad but true.