A Just War, and an Unfinished One

Recognizing Libya's rebels was the right move by the United States and its allies -- but it's not the only one they have to make.

BY JAMES TRAUB | JULY 15, 2011

But what will that voice be? Will it be, "Keep fighting until the rebels win, or Qaddafi flees?" Qaddafi has been indicted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court. Where would he flee to? Zimbabwe? Marina Ottaway, a Middle East expert at the Carnegie Endowment, says, "We have to accept a solution which is not exactly what we had in mind to begin with." In this scenario, NATO would keep up the bombardment while U.N. officials and rebel leaders work out a political solution in which Qaddafi leaves power, but not Libya. Qaddafi just might accept such an outcome; Juppe, in Istanbul, said that "The Libyan regime is sending messengers everywhere, to Turkey, to New York, to Paris" seeking a negotiated solution.

Could the rebels live with it? A rebel leader whom I heard speak last month recalled growing up in Benghazi seeing bodies swing from lampposts. Neither she nor her colleagues were prepared to sit around a table with the monster who was responsible. And how can they possibly trust that Qaddafi would sit quietly inside his compound? What about his sons? Would they sit there with him? But if the only alternative is six more months of war, the rebels may have to sign on to such a plan, if only to preserve the NATO alliance which they can not currently live without.

What if Qaddafi lies and dithers, as in all likelihood he will, and the talks go nowhere? Then NATO will have to keep inflicting damage, and the rebels will have to get better. And this is where the United States comes in. The government in Benghazi, known as the Transitional National Council (TNC), has asked the allies for $3 billion in order to pay salaries and to buy military supplies, food, medicine and other basics. With sufficient funding, the rebels could not only improve their military capacity but, just as importantly, demonstrate to the Libyan people that they have the ability to deliver services and run a government, as Qaddafi himself never did.

The U.S. government has frozen $30 billion in Libyan assets, and would like to divert some of that money to the rebels. Today’s decision to formally recognize the TNC as the legitimate government of Libya will make it much easier to do so. But the American diplomat I spoke to noted that political recognition is not the same as legal recognition; the TNC may not qualify as a recognizable government according to State Department criteria. What's more, even legal recognition might not, by itself, permit the assets to be unfrozen. "We're really grappling with it right now," he says.

But the problem may be political as well as legal. "We're paranoid about the possibility of Islamic infiltration," says Marina Ottaway. For months, critics of the decision to bomb Libya, as well as many on the right, have wrung their hands over the rebels in Benghazi, saying, "We don't know who they are." Now, after extensive reporting, we know who they are: people from all walks of life, including a great many professionals, who loathe Qaddafi and yearn for a better life -- and yes, some Islamists, too. Behind the NATO-enforced cordon sanitaire in front of Benghazi, a chaotic laboratory of democracy has sprung up. Benghazi has 400 non-government organizations and 40 or so proto-parties. There are endless meetings, debates, committees. The Tripoli Task Force, a TNC-appointed committee of independent experts, makes plans -- quite serious, specific plans -- for Day One of the post-Qaddafi world. Whatever its inevitable shortcomings, this is a struggle which undoubtedly deserves the support -- not just moral, but also financial -- of the West.

The critics of humanitarian intervention who say that the outcome is likely to be messier and more protracted than its proponents imagine are right. You have to be prepared to live with the unforeseen consequences of your acts. NATO and the United States thus have to stay the course not only to deliver the Libyan people from Qaddafi but also to demonstrate that such interventions are not exercises in imperial hubris -- or "wars of whim," as my Foreign Policy colleague Stephen Walt mockingly puts it. The imperative of preventing mass slaughter in Benghazi was reason enough to act -- though Walt writes breezily of "the fear of a possible 'bloodbath,'" as if this were a flimsy pretext seized upon by reckless adventurers. But with hundreds now dying on both sides, it would be grotesque to declare the effort a success if Qaddafi holds onto power. The war in Kosovo succeeded -- insofar as it succeeded -- not because it halted ethnic cleansing, but because it freed Kosovars from Serbian control.

A post-Qaddafi Libya will be a mess, as post-Milosevic Kosovo has been. But it just might be a very inspiring mess. And the Obama administration and its NATO allies have it in their power to help deliver such an outcome.

*Correction: An earlier version of this story mistakenly reported that Libya's rebels controlled the rifinery at Zawiyah.

GIANLUIGI GUERCIA/AFP/Getty Images

 

James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

ZORRO

5:53 AM ET

July 16, 2011

Unforseen

The consequences of war are unforeseen only its details. War always leads to chaos and poverty.

The Kosovo war is/was certainly not a success since the EU is still giving money to the terrorists and organ traffickers that run the territory (calling it a state would be a joke).
The Libyan oil might save us from a similar fate there, but I have my strong doubts, Iraq certainly hasn't made it on their own.

 

ALEXREES

2:46 PM ET

July 21, 2011

I think success can be judged

I think success can be judged by the number of people whose massacre was averted. In both cases it was surely in the 1000s.

 

DOVE_VN

11:24 PM ET

July 16, 2011

An advise from Vietnam

The West was engaged in Libyan war by its paranoiac about democracy and by its pragmatism on $30 billion in Libyan assets. Now every one knows that democracy is too nebulous to start the war and $30 billion is the only thing that makes difference between Libya and Syria. So It’s right time for Quaddafi to start the peaceful demonstration in order to make clear the nebulosity of democracy and the authentic owner of $30 billion.

 

BENN3012

9:48 AM ET

July 18, 2011

"A Just War"? I think not...

If this war is to be just is must have a lot more options in outcome than to trade the sovereignty from one party to another. The historical record showing the amalgamation of the Libyan colony then nation from tribal areas, or even provinces, leaves a lot of future causes of conflict that are not addressed by this particular venting of rage. Given the horrors that war unleashes, a just war would promise to address more than just the travails of the last few decades under one despot. Of course that would not assuage the fears of the oil industry who wants the Libyan reserves brought back into production without having to deal with various localities. This is not a step "forward" as much as a step toward the status quo for the European elites who have long dominated North African peoples.

 

DOVE_VN

10:27 PM ET

July 18, 2011

GMMR

Please read some pieces of news about Libya’s Great Man Made River (GMMR), that is nowadays completely forgotten by Western press:

28 August 1984: Muammar al-Gaddafi lays the foundation stone in Sarir area for the commencement of the construction of the GMMR Project.

28 August 1986: Muammar al-Gaddafi inaugurated the Brega plant for the production of the Pre-stressed Concrete Cylinder pipes, which are considered the largest pipes made with pre-stressed steel wire.

26 August 1989: Muammar al-Gaddafi lays the foundation stone for phase II of the Great Man-Made River Project.

Thank to GMMR, Libya is the unique country in the world, where the purest mineral water is available for the all people in everyday use. So remember please, with the GMMR, Gaddafi is an integrated part of Libya’s modern history.

 

CRYSTALBALL

8:36 PM ET

August 8, 2011

A just war but will it create a just peace

Alas just wars do not always lead to just peace(s). Strangely enough this one might. Whilst events might seem to be dragging out this might be a good thing as it gives the rebel leadership time to learn a bit about how to govern. It also very much shows how important the help of the West is something which the rebels have genuinely been singing our praises for. Finally it gives an opportunity for talented people to defect from the Gaddafi regime and also minimizes damage to infrastructure. Of course this still means many of Gaddafi will have to face the music when the time comes. Something which alas may make then want to hold out till the bitter end.

 

FRANCENE MULANEY

10:07 PM ET

August 11, 2011

A Just War, and an Unfinished One

In my opinion
James Traub writes in Foreign Policy on Friday about the meeting in Istanbul with the Libya Contact Group, an assembly of representatives from NATO, Middle Eastern countries, international organizations and the U.S. State Department that spoke on the possibility of a “good outcome” in Libya.  Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that it is essential to “keep the alliance speaking with one voice.
”  The coalition decided on Friday to recognize the transitional council in Benghazi,
however according to Traub, “success will require patience and persistence from NATO,
creativity form the U.S., and pragmatism from the rebels.  And there is good reason right now to worry about each of those things.

Lear more :lexi belle

 

RICKIE124

6:08 AM ET

August 13, 2011

A Just War, and an Unfinished One

Recognizing Libya's rebels was the right move by the United States and its allies -- but it's not the only one they have to make. Alas just wars do not always lead to just peace(s). Strangely enough this one might. Whilst events might seem to be dragging out this might be a good thing as it gives the rebel leadership time to learn a bit about how to govern. It also very much shows how important the help of the West is something which the rebels have genuinely been singing our praises for. Finally it gives an opportunity for he said If this war is to be just is must have a lot more options in outcome than to trade the sovereignty from one party to another. The historical record showing the amalgamation of the Libyan colony then nation from tribal areas, or even provinces, leaves a lot of future causes of conflict that are not addressed by this particular venting of rage. Given the horrors that war unleashes, a just war would

 

RUDDERMANN

12:45 AM ET

August 14, 2011

Libya's rebels to reorganize their leadership

Before lauding removing this council, would not it be a good idea to see who the dismissed members are replaced by? Are you aware the dismissed finance minister was a united states citizen who left his job here and relocated to Benghazi to contribute his significant no nonsense muscle building fitness techniques towards the cause? Again, giddy hurrahs for anything the rebels do, once the the fact is the group is a lot more worried about establishing a powerful Islamic state where the constitution is dependent on the Quron - instead of the secular Islamic suggest that existed under Gaddafi (based on two independent French research teams). How intelligent could it be to get rid of a secular regime to create an Iranian-style regime? Not so.

 

MARRIOND

12:59 PM ET

August 14, 2011

Libya is still in bloody war

Libya is still in bloody war and things have changed only as much that Gaddafi has more power now than a month or two months ago. The international community has done what it often does, they tried to do something but they weren't really committed to do enough. Why is this so is another matter, be it their own problems, financial and economic crisis or whatever. The point remains the dictator is sitting on his berber carpet with his generals and secret service holding berber carpet tiles and killing the rebels easily. He has enough funds to pay for his fighters and enough time as he knows the West has problems of its own. And now what? Same old, same old. The common people will suffer and the leaders will rule on as if nothing happened. Sad but true.