A Continent, Sinking

Europe's financial crisis is a Titanic moment, threatening to bring down not only the EU's major economies, but its political raison d'être. Is it too late to save the ship?

BY STEVEN ERLANGER | JULY 20, 2011

PARIS — Europe isn't going quietly. In this season of continental crisis, both financial and existential, French President Nicolas Sarkozy has yelled at European Central Bank President Jean-Claude Trichet. The European Union commissioner in charge of justice, Viviane Reding, has insulted Sarkozy, who has fired back. Leaders of smaller countries have openly complained about German pigheadedness and French arrogance. The Germans and the northern countries call the Greeks freeloaders, liars, and worse; the Greeks have said Germany should return gold and antiquities looted by the Nazis.


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NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, meanwhile, chastised certain members of the alliance over its less-than-successful military intervention in Libya, causing the French and German ambassadors to stalk out of the room.

And everyone seems to be disappointed with Angela Merkel, the calculating physicist who is the cautious chancellor of a united Germany, the largest, richest, and most important country in Europe. Merkel, who has an active and reciprocated distaste for Sarkozy, has her eye more on state elections and her weak coalition partner than on the broader challenge of saving the most important Western political project since World War II. The Germans like to say that Merkel "drives in the summer with winter tires,'' but for many her hesitations signal a lack of leadership, and her constant emendations and reversals are undermining her credibility, even at home. At the same time, Sarkozy is more concerned with how to patch together the French political right for France's 2012 presidential election than in taking political and financial risks for the euro.

In Italy, the latest European country to enter full-fledged financial crisis mode, the prime minister, Silvio Berlusconi, is considered a bawdy joke, while in Britain, the new prime minister, David Cameron, with his spiraling problems of austerity and phone-hacking at home, has abdicated any responsibility for or obligation to the fate of the euro, as if the European Union and the 18 countries that use the common currency were as distant from London as Tahiti.

"Europe is in its most severe crisis in 50 years,'' Joschka Fischer, the former German foreign minister, told me. "What appears to be a sovereign debt crisis is really a political crisis. We don't have the institutions or the political will or the leaders willing to do what is necessary. We're talking about the success or failure of the whole project of Europe since World War II, and everywhere there is a lack of political leadership.''

Even Le Monde admits that this latest crisis over Greece, which is driving up interest rates for Italy and Spain, the third- and fourth-largest economies in the eurozone, "testifies not to the cupidity of the markets, but reflects the irresponsibility of governments.'' As Italian Finance Minister Giulio Tremonti not very delicately warned the Germans, "Just as on the Titanic, not even first-class passengers can save themselves.''

Europe, whole and free, is sailing through freezing waters, trying to dodge the icebergs everyone can see. But there are too many hands on the wheel, too many arguments about which way to turn, and no obvious pilot.

The crisis over the euro, the renewed if minor restrictions on free travel, the growing strength of modernized far-right political parties, the anxiety about globalization, the deep unpopularity of nearly all governments, the strains in NATO, the glacial and indifferent pace of the peculiar war in Libya, the inability to respond to the Arab Spring -- all are signs of an existential crisis. Two of the proudest accomplishments of European unity -- the euro and visa-free travel -- are both under threat. And so is the traditionally binding commitment to "solidarity" among the member states.

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Steven Erlanger is the Paris bureau chief of the New York Times.

SCOTTINDALLAS

9:15 AM ET

July 21, 2011

couldn't warn all you FP guys

But, what I made clear from the outset of the Arab Spring is that this was evidence of a bankrupt Europe. Turkey don't want no part of EU membership. The poles are re-aligning. Fortunately the Europeans don't brook the support for the military that we do. However, their military/intelligence was our eyes and ears in North Africa and the Middle East--as we don't have nor trust Arabs. We were blind when they shut down.

Good, good, good. Europe will be fine, we will be too, after the collapse and the realignment. Good for the world, ultimately good for EU and US--though it won't feel that way.

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

8:40 PM ET

July 21, 2011

Time for it all to unravel

The integration of post war Europe was advancing just fine with the Common Market but insensibly the power brokers took over and the people were increasingly ignored, hoodwinked and herded into what the EU has now become. Look at the way Greece is blamed for being Greece when people are starving in Athens and the country is overwhelmed with refugees. It is not a question of Greece and Portugal lagging or lying but simply that their feet don’t fit German boots. The British were promised a referendum on the EU constitutional changes; Cameron was the most ardent advocate and see what happened; obfuscation, half-truths, doublespeak until the debate was closed and the changes were suddenly there.

At a time when desire for a new democracy is an awakening, almost global, aspiration, that is a democracy where the people and the authorities to which they resign their freedoms become closer, Brussels is struggling with all its might to drag European countries in the opposite direction, and they are becoming antipathetic to it. And not just Brussels, most national leaders are equally suspect, which is one reason government scandals are so relished.

Concurrently, the ideology of Western capitalism is under increasingly critical scrutiny for its avarice, greed and the usurious distribution of credit, and since that ideology is fundamental to the Euro the scrutiny chips away at arguments in favour of the currency.

These two factors, the aspiration for a more meaningful democracy and distaste for the excesses of capitalism are like pressure building behind a dam, and the suits in Brussels are quite right to fear the consequences of a breach. However, there is little they can do about it and only their pride obliges them to run around improvising temporary solutions that are actually making it worse; we now have a bizarre situation where the majority of German people do not want to bail out Greece and the majority of Greeks don’t want their money with all its austerity strings attached. Yet it is going to happen anyway. How is that for democracy?

There is doubtless a role for a common currency in those countries that believe striving to make money is a good way to spend one’s brief life on this earth, but they should let the others drop away rather than confine them to shackles and force them to labour like galley slaves.

As for NATO, stuff it!

 

KASEMAN

9:28 AM ET

July 21, 2011

Feckless lenders, uncredit worthy borrowers

Plus ca change plus c'est la memchose. No due diligence by the lenders and worthless analyses by the credit agencies. But they got to keep their exorbinant fees and of course the lenders will be bailed out. As always.
As happened with the Anglos in 2009-10. .

 

STUBY

1:43 PM ET

July 21, 2011

Well at least someone had fun

Well at least someone had fun right :)

But seriously - nothing will really change until we as humans change our way of thinking. Call me a new-age idiot but I believe we're on the verge of a global revolution of thinking. Our society is about to change drastically! :)

But who am I to predict the future ;)

Stuby @ Sonic Vitamins Review

 

GLOBALFORCES

8:49 PM ET

July 21, 2011

The European experiment has

The European experiment has failed and is only artificially being kept alive on a life-support system of taxpayer-funded bailouts.

The euro is now a zombie currency: only the political will of the European nomenklatura keeps it nominally in existence. That is the exact reverse of the proper relationship between a currency and the state: the currency should be the expression of a healthy economy testifying to the legitimacy of the government it represents. Instead, a synthetic European super-state is showing its non-viability and moribundity through the implosion of its currency.

Do you see that smoking slag-heap of smouldering, toxic debt? The polite name for it is the European Central Bank (ECB). It is a landfill site being used by bond investors to dump Greek waste paper and other unwanted garbage. It resembles the back yards of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when the sub-prime time-bomb exploded. Steptoe and Son would turn up their noses at such a tip. As the ECB’s president, Jean-Claude Trichet, despairingly confided to Der Spiegel on Monday, Europe’s economy “is in its most difficult situation since World War II or perhaps even since World War I”.

That was an unwarrantedly optimistic assessment of local business marketing. The European economy is in its worst situation since 1789 and the eve of the French Revolution. Indeed, the parallel is uncanny. Jacques Necker, the Vince Cable of his day and similarly the darling of every armchair fiscal reformer in France, was the father and paradigm of all the debt-loving, statist, spendthrift finance ministers of today.

He squandered a fortune on supporting the American War of Independence, the consequence of which was the importation of revolutionary ideas into France; ratcheted up government debt; dispensed largesse to create a dependency culture; insisted on opening the books to the public but cooked them heavily before doing so; and retired to Switzerland when the balloon went up. It is hard to believe Gordon Brown did not have a portrait of him on his office wall or glued up nest to his best ceiling fans. At least Vince Cable did not sire a Madame de Staël, Necker’s daughter wearing her silver necklace.

We live in an age of mass communication: people have noticed that Europe has a few little local difficulties. The US Senate has just voted by a robust majority of 94 to 0 to veto IMF rescue packages for hopeless cases. American legislators are determined that, whoever stumps up their hard-earned cash to keep Zorba in his lifestyle of siesta and ouzo, it is not going to be Joe Public, of Main Street, Peoria. Joe has already been sufficiently mugged by Wall Street hoods to feel that his contribution is more than adequate. As European ideologues throw more and more billions into the bottomless pit of Greek, Spanish, Portuguese and Irish indebtedness, they are running out of stashes of cash to plunder. The IMF is now the final resort and the US Senate has drawn a line in the sand.

The real-life solution to the crisis would have been to let Greece and the other PIG nations default on their debt and restructure it; to return to the drachma, peseta, etc and devalue. The euro was never a real currency: it has failed and the longer the Euro-fanatics delay in recognising that reality the more they will be punished. Germany’s nostalgia for the security of the deutschmark is now palpable to the point of urgency. Angela Merkel, having lost the upper house of the German parliament in recent elections, is now a lame duck. As she says, “if the euro fails, it is not only the currency that fails. Then Europe fails. The idea of European unity fails.”

 

GLOBALFORCES

8:50 PM ET

July 21, 2011

The European experiment has

The European experiment has failed and is only artificially being kept alive on a life-support system of taxpayer-funded bailouts.

The euro is now a zombie currency: only the political will of the European nomenklatura keeps it nominally in existence. That is the exact reverse of the proper relationship between a currency and the state: the currency should be the expression of a healthy economy testifying to the legitimacy of the government it represents. Instead, a synthetic European super-state is showing its non-viability and moribundity through the implosion of its currency.

Do you see that smoking slag-heap of smouldering, toxic debt? The polite name for it is the European Central Bank (ECB). It is a landfill site being used by bond investors to dump Greek waste paper and other unwanted garbage. It resembles the back yards of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when the sub-prime time-bomb exploded. Steptoe and Son would turn up their noses at such a tip. As the ECB’s president, Jean-Claude Trichet, despairingly confided to Der Spiegel on Monday, Europe’s economy “is in its most difficult situation since World War II or perhaps even since World War I”.

That was an unwarrantedly optimistic assessment of local business marketing. The European economy is in its worst situation since 1789 and the eve of the French Revolution. Indeed, the parallel is uncanny. Jacques Necker, the Vince Cable of his day and similarly the darling of every armchair fiscal reformer in France, was the father and paradigm of all the debt-loving, statist, spendthrift finance ministers of today.

He squandered a fortune on supporting the American War of Independence, the consequence of which was the importation of revolutionary ideas into France; ratcheted up government debt; dispensed largesse to create a dependency culture; insisted on opening the books to the public but cooked them heavily before doing so; and retired to Switzerland when the balloon went up. It is hard to believe Gordon Brown did not have a portrait of him on his office wall or glued up nest to his best ceiling fans. At least Vince Cable did not sire a Madame de Staël, Necker’s daughter wearing her silver necklace.

We live in an age of mass communication: people have noticed that Europe has a few little local difficulties. The US Senate has just voted by a robust majority of 94 to 0 to veto IMF rescue packages for hopeless cases. American legislators are determined that, whoever stumps up their hard-earned cash to keep Zorba in his lifestyle of siesta and ouzo, it is not going to be Joe Public, of Main Street, Peoria. Joe has already been sufficiently mugged by Wall Street hoods to feel that his contribution is more than adequate. As European ideologues throw more and more billions into the bottomless pit of Greek, Spanish, Portuguese and Irish indebtedness, they are running out of stashes of cash to plunder. The IMF is now the final resort and the US Senate has drawn a line in the sand.

The real-life solution to the crisis would have been to let Greece and the other PIG nations default on their debt and restructure it; to return to the drachma, peseta, etc and devalue. The euro was never a real currency: it has failed and the longer the Euro-fanatics delay in recognising that reality the more they will be punished. Germany’s nostalgia for the security of the deutschmark is now palpable to the point of urgency. Angela Merkel, having lost the upper house of the German parliament in recent elections, is now a lame duck. As she says, “if the euro fails, it is not only the currency that fails. Then Europe fails. The idea of European unity fails.”

 

GLOBALFORCES

8:51 PM ET

July 21, 2011

The European experiment has

The European experiment has failed and is only artificially being kept alive on a life-support system of taxpayer-funded bailouts.

The euro is now a zombie currency: only the political will of the European nomenklatura keeps it nominally in existence. That is the exact reverse of the proper relationship between a currency and the state: the currency should be the expression of a healthy economy testifying to the legitimacy of the government it represents. Instead, a synthetic European super-state is showing its non-viability and moribundity through the implosion of its currency.

Do you see that smoking slag-heap of smouldering, toxic debt? The polite name for it is the European Central Bank (ECB). It is a landfill site being used by bond investors to dump Greek waste paper and other unwanted garbage. It resembles the back yards of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when the sub-prime time-bomb exploded. Steptoe and Son would turn up their noses at such a tip. As the ECB’s president, Jean-Claude Trichet, despairingly confided to Der Spiegel on Monday, Europe’s economy “is in its most difficult situation since World War II or perhaps even since World War I”.

That was an unwarrantedly optimistic assessment of local business marketing. The European economy is in its worst situation since 1789 and the eve of the French Revolution. Indeed, the parallel is uncanny. Jacques Necker, the Vince Cable of his day and similarly the darling of every armchair fiscal reformer in France, was the father and paradigm of all the debt-loving, statist, spendthrift finance ministers of today.

He squandered a fortune on supporting the American War of Independence, the consequence of which was the importation of revolutionary ideas into France; ratcheted up government debt; dispensed largesse to create a dependency culture; insisted on opening the books to the public but cooked them heavily before doing so; and retired to Switzerland when the balloon went up. It is hard to believe Gordon Brown did not have a portrait of him on his office wall or glued up nest to his best ceiling fans. At least Vince Cable did not sire a Madame de Staël, Necker’s daughter wearing her silver necklace.

We live in an age of mass communication: people have noticed that Europe has a few little local difficulties. The US Senate has just voted by a robust majority of 94 to 0 to veto IMF rescue packages for hopeless cases. American legislators are determined that, whoever stumps up their hard-earned cash to keep Zorba in his lifestyle of siesta and ouzo, it is not going to be Joe Public, of Main Street, Peoria. Joe has already been sufficiently mugged by Wall Street hoods to feel that his contribution is more than adequate. As European ideologues throw more and more billions into the bottomless pit of Greek, Spanish, Portuguese and Irish indebtedness, they are running out of stashes of cash to plunder. The IMF is now the final resort and the US Senate has drawn a line in the sand.

The real-life solution to the crisis would have been to let Greece and the other PIG nations default on their debt and restructure it; to return to the drachma, peseta, etc and devalue. The euro was never a real currency: it has failed and the longer the Euro-fanatics delay in recognising that reality the more they will be punished. Germany’s nostalgia for the security of the deutschmark is now palpable to the point of urgency. Angela Merkel, having lost the upper house of the German parliament in recent elections, is now a lame duck. As she says, “if the euro fails, it is not only the currency that fails. Then Europe fails. The idea of European unity fails.”

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

4:06 AM ET

July 22, 2011

Zorba

'Zorba in his lifestyle of siesta and ouzo' is neither fair nor accurate. Greece has little industry and was essentially a land of subsistence farmers. That is farmers who worked to support their own unit, and a bit more to trade for things they could not grow or make, and then a bit more again for the proverbial rainy day. Such a way of life demands extremely hard work and the application of a wide range of skills. Is it any wonder they have a healthy residual distrust for those, be it Church or State, who demand a share of their labour It was only some 50 years ago that the government, suborned by ideology, destroyed their way of life in favour of larger farming units. That has been tried in Haiti, Russia, China etc. etc. and it always comes home to roost since it dispossesses the people and in time deprives them of their skills, their pride, and the coherent rhythms of their life. This process of dispossession went hand in hand with a policy of asset stripping where the reserves of the dispossessed were used up, assets regarded as superfluous sold off, and saving replaced by credit until there was no longer any cushion and bad times became ten times worse leaving the people only the choice between starvation and revolution. The Euro is, alas, but a symptom of a much greater malaise.

 

ISABELDELOSRIOS

3:42 PM ET

July 26, 2011

Excellent analysis GLOBALFORCES

Excellent analysis, is was worth posting 3 times so more people see it. But I wonder why no one is copying the what Reagan did in the 1980's, which turned out to be the most successful economic recovery in the history of the world. Here's what he did...

President Reagan campaigned on an explicitly articulated, four-point economic program to reverse this slow motion collapse of the American economy:

1. Cut tax rates to restore incentives for economic growth, which was implemented first with a reduction in the top income tax rate of 70% down to 50%, and then a 25% across-the-board reduction in income tax rates for everyone. The 1986 tax reform then reduced tax rates further, leaving just two rates, 28% and 15%.

2. Spending reductions, including a $31 billion cut in spending in 1981, close to 5% of the federal budget then, or the equivalent of about $175 billion in spending cuts for the year today. In constant dollars, nondefense discretionary spending declined by 14.4% from 1981 to 1982, and by 16.8% from 1981 to 1983. Moreover, in constant dollars, this nondefense discretionary spending never returned to its 1981 level for the rest of Reagan’s two terms! Even with the Reagan defense buildup, which won the Cold War without firing a shot, total federal spending declined from a high of 23.5% of GDP in 1983 to 21.3% in 1988 and 21.2% in 1989. That’s a real reduction in the size of government relative to the economy of 10%.

3. Anti-inflation monetary policy restraining money supply growth compared to demand, to maintain a stronger, more stable dollar value.

4. Deregulation, which saved consumers an estimated $100 billion per year in lower prices. Reagan’s first executive order, in fact, eliminated price controls on oil and natural gas. Production soared, and aided by a strong dollar the price of oil declined by more than 50%.

These economic policies amounted to the most successful economic experiment in world history. The Reagan recovery started in official records in November 1982, and lasted 92 months without a recession until July 1990, when the tax increases of the 1990 budget deal killed it. This set a new record for the longest peacetime expansion ever, the previous high in peacetime being 58 months.

During this seven-year recovery, the economy grew by almost one-third, the equivalent of adding the entire economy of West Germany, the third-largest in the world at the time, to the U.S. economy. In 1984 alone real economic growth boomed by 6.8%, the highest in 50 years. Nearly 20 million new jobs were created during the recovery, increasing U.S. civilian employment by almost 20%. Unemployment fell to 5.3% by 1989.

The shocking rise in inflation during the Nixon and Carter years was reversed. Astoundingly, inflation from 1980 was reduced by more than half by 1982, to 6.2%. It was cut in half again for 1983, to 3.2%, never to be heard from again until recently. The contractionary, tight-money policies needed to kill this inflation inexorably created the steep recession of 1981 to 1982, which is why Reagan did not suffer politically catastrophic blame for that recession.

Real per-capita disposable income increased by 18% from 1982 to 1989, meaning the American standard of living increased by almost 20% in just seven years. The poverty rate declined every year from 1984 to 1989, dropping by one-sixth from its peak. The stock market more than tripled in value from 1980 to 1990, a larger increase than in any previous decade.

source: http://blogs.forbes.com/peterferrara/2011/05/05/reaganomics-vs-obamanomics-facts-and-figures/

- Isabel De Los Rios

 

STEVE LOSANDOS

12:27 PM ET

July 27, 2011

Great points

I would also like to know why it is that our governments are not copying what Reagan did in the 80's.

Steve from dietandnutrition101

 

ZAOTAR

12:26 PM ET

July 21, 2011

Outstanding Article

Really one of the best I've read on the subject. Great analysis.

 

SPMULL06

1:06 PM ET

July 21, 2011

Ridiculous

"Two of the proudest accomplishments of European unity -- the euro and visa-free travel -- are both under threat. "

Schengen was about the free movement of people, not visa-free travel. It was to remove border controls between countries party to the treaty. Neither Britain nor Ireland are members of Schengen, as they control immigration differently than the continentals. The Swiss recently joined, but will hopefully withdraw in the near future. The flood of EU citizens has helped drive up the price of housing and contributed to overcrowding on the nation's public transport network (although this is still being heavily debated).

There is a larger debate here that I feel is only adequately aired and weighed in Switzerland. What is the raison d'être of the nation state and what is the purpose of the European Union / European integration? Are the rights and desires of citizens trampled upon and ignored in a rush to implement what could be considered an "elitist" project?

"There has been demographic decline, with aging populations putting intolerable stresses on social programs for health care, salaries, and pensions that once were the pride of social democracy."

Why, pray tell, is this not a problem in Sweden, which is presently running a budget surplus? Once again, repeating American stereotypes. And Germany is supposedly booming, yet incomes declined two per cent during the past decade, with those at the bottom of the pay scale seeing declines commensurate to 10-25 per cent! Much of the job "boom" has been among this segment, with a rapid expansion of temporary, "precarious" employment. It should be no surprise that the German people do not want to bail out the Mediterranean states or low-tax Ireland.

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http://www.faz.net/artikel/C31853/arbeitsmarkt-leiharbeit-dominiert-beim-stellenzuwachs-30468443.html

 

JJJONAS

7:11 AM ET

July 22, 2011

Germany is supposedly

Germany is supposedly booming, yet incomes declined two per cent during the past decade, with those at the bottom of the pay scale seeing declines commensurate to 10-25 per cent! Seo paslaugos Much of the job "boom" has been among this segment

 

PETERSMITHSON

7:53 PM ET

August 9, 2011

Cannot save the whole continent but can save most of it

I would not sound too victorious if I were you Mr FP because it is looking increasing like face the music time for the US too.

However since you ask the view in the City is that

Greece (and hence Cyprus the island near by) is basically a charity case. Once France and Germany stop being charitable it is default time. Greece attracts particular derision for its Neroesque fiddling whilst Rome burns policies or should that be singing while Athens riots.

Spain, Portugal and Ireland should be okay (just) based on forecast debt to GNP & deficit to GNP percentages however you cannot 100% tell in Spain's case cos no one knows how much undisclosed property losses there still are (it is a lot but no one knows how much). Also in their favor is they are all also pretty small so bail outable

Italy is a funny one because whilst it can not reply its debt it can repay interest on its debts. So as long as interest rates do not rise too high....has a reasonable chance. Another negative is that it is big so if flounders much harder to bail out

The rest of us are all fine as long as waters do not get too double dippy.

Watching events unfold would make great entertainment if it was not so important.

 

SCARLETT DOLEAC

10:34 PM ET

August 11, 2011

A Continent, Sinking

i though that what happened,
The implication is that Zealandia was a continent that has subsequently sunk,
and indeed the geological record strongly supports this idea. Why did it sink and when,
and why are New Zealand and New Caledonia emergent? Why are they too not submerged?
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VIEWEUROPE

8:43 PM ET

August 18, 2011

Core can be saved but not if try and save PIGS and others

It really is face the music time for the Euro. Germany and France are going to be a lot less generous now markets are questioning their AAA rating. Without their support I cannot see how the original PIGS can survive. I mean look at Greece's latest figures. They will be back with the begging bowl well before Xmas

Sarkozy's "I am Europe's saviour" song and dance routine looks particularly dim now as France's rating comes under pressure. There are rumours that Berlusconi is going to be cutting down on his bunga bunga parties too to help balance Italy's books so you know things are serious there.

It would make great entertainment watching the Euro federalists try and dance their way out of this mess except it is so serious for everyone.

 

AXELBROOK

5:31 AM ET

August 19, 2011

Two of the last three U.S.

Two of the last three U.S. RIO Secretaries of State have been women, Madeline Albright and Condoleeza Rice, so those two would be high on the list of women who influence foreign policy..

 

HLBAKERNJ

4:43 PM ET

August 19, 2011

Recession fears

The European economic climate is in its most detrimental situation since 1789 and also the eve of the France Revolution. Indeed, the actual parallel is uncanny. Jacques Necker, the actual Vince Cable of their day and similarly the actual darling of every armchair financial reformer in France, had been the father and paradigm of all of the debt-loving, statist, spendthrift finance ministers of today.

He or she squandered a fortune upon supporting the United states War of Self-reliance, the consequence of which was the actual importation of revolutionary suggestions into France; ratcheted upward government debt; distributed largesse to create a dependency tradition; insisted on starting the books towards the public but prepared them heavily prior to doing so; and upon the market to Switzerland once the balloon went up. It's hard to believe Gordon Dark brown did not have a family portrait of him upon his office walls or glued upward nest to their hojo motor. A minimum of Vince Cable did not sire the Madame de Stael, Necker's daughter putting on her silver pendant.

 

PETER MURRAY

5:06 PM ET

August 19, 2011

A Continent Sinking

A very good and precise reply by Isabel in particular. A Continent Sinking, if it means the U.K. looking out for herself then so be it.

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FREESPIRIT

5:17 PM ET

August 19, 2011

Sinking Continent

Nice piece View Europe - to which I totally agree with Germany and France under pressure all goes well for an eventual disintegration back to all state being responsible for their own citizens.

"It really is face the music time for the Euro. Germany and France are going to be a lot less generous now markets are questioning their AAA rating. Without their support I cannot see how the original PIGS can survive. I mean look at Greece's latest figures. They will be back with the begging bowl well before Xmas

Sarkozy's "I am Europe's saviour" song and dance routine looks particularly dim now as France's rating comes under pressure. There are rumours that Berlusconi is going to be cutting down on his bunga bunga parties too to help balance Italy's books so you know things are serious there."

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DAVID BYRNE

6:25 PM ET

August 19, 2011

That real sinking feeling

"Two of the last three U.S. RIO Secretaries of State have been women, Madeline Albright and Condoleeza Rice, so those two would be high on the list of women who influence foreign policy. To be honest one would expect any Foreign Sec to have a major influence on overseas policies

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RICHARD HEAD

2:49 AM ET

August 20, 2011

That sinking feeling

"Germany is supposedly booming, yet incomes declined two per cent during the past decade, with those at the bottom of the pay scale seeing declines commensurate to 10-25 per cent. Much of the job "boom" has been among this segment" As I see it, if these figures are correct what sort of shape are the rest of us in properties around the world 007 unsigned indie bands big up events big up promotions webdesign