Norway's 9/11?

Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of Norway's Peace Research Institute Oslo, explains why the Norwegian capital might have been on a terrorist's shortlist of potential targets.

INTERVIEW BY CHARLES HOMANS | JULY 22, 2011

Foreign Policy: We don't know much about this bombing yet, but who would have been interested in attacking Oslo?

Kristian Harpviken: The only concrete supposition that would emerge in a Norwegian context would be al Qaeda. There has been specific mention of Norway [in its communications], alongside a number of other countries that have been part of the war on terror [and] part of the war in Afghanistan, including on one occasion fairly recently after the killing of Osama bin Laden. That is the only concrete angle there is to it -- but the police have not yet indicated anything in terms of where they are looking, as far as I understand it. There's still quite a bit of work to be done before they have an overview of what happened, or even an overview of the extent of the damages and the number of people killed and injured.

FP: What are the most important questions to be asking at this point?

KH: The immediate question that comes up of course is whether anti-terror preparedness [in Norway] has been of a sufficient scope. It's clear that Norway has significantly strengthened its intelligence and other warning capacities from 2001 up to the present. In fact, last summer, about this time of the year, a different plot was revealed by the Norwegian authorities. It still isn't entirely clear what the aim was, but probably it was Jyllands-Posten, the newspaper that published the caricatures [of Prophet Mohammed] in Denmark, that was the target. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of debate about that, of whether Norway's preparedness is any way behind comparable countries.

FP: Tell us about the back story to these threats in Norway -- there was the al Qaeda incident last summer, the Mullah Krekar case, and now this.

KH: You already mentioned the two key incidents. There has been a long parallel story in Norway about the publication of the caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed. [The Danish cartoon] was published by a largely unknown newspaper called Magasinet, and they came under severe threat. This was in parallel with the same threats being issued against Jyllands-Posten in Copenhagen. The outcome in Norway was very different from that in Denmark -- I think for two reasons. One is simply that the extent of the Islamist radicalism in Norway has been fairly limited. I think in Denmark you have several much stronger militant radical Islamists groups represented. That's been very limited in Norway. So obviously dealing with this in Norway is not as complicated as it would be in Denmark. But the other reason is just as important: In Norway, this was handled very differently by a number of key institutions both within the government and in civil society. The government was very clear that it understood the reactions to the publication of the caricatures, but also that it is a society where there is freedom of expression and that therefore there was nothing it could or wanted to do to limit it. But just as importantly, in civil society we were building on a fairly long-standing institution of multifaith dialogue, something called the Interfaith Council of Norway, where the religious leaders of different denominations -- Christian, Muslim, Jewish, as well as a number of other faiths -- came together and issued common declarations condemning the threats of terrorists.

FP: So there was a sense that this was something that had been dealt with well on the social level in Norway and that this was really an external threat rather than an internal threat?

KH: Yes, it was much more an external threat than an internal threat. This was picked up by a couple of radical elements in Norway, but they did not convert that into concrete threats. The concrete threats came from groups based outside of Norway.

Thomas Winje/AFP/Getty Images

 

Charles Homans is features editor of Foreign Policy.

WEPUMP

3:37 PM ET

July 22, 2011

9/11 OR NORWAYS Oklahoma City

Everyone is way to fast to pull the triger on Islamics in this part of the world to many kids have gone to school with guns here.... who ever did this is a terroist just what type is left to be seen

4 differnt options on type from 4 differnt religions......

Musluims want revenge for something some times for everything

Christian want something same and have done it same way as Musluims plus this one is political the Office of the goverment as well as youth wing party

Jewish well now isnt Norway one country that stands in favor of Palistine ?

Athists just cause they can see if people call for God or not when they Die....

Just some food for thought

 

VICTORIO

10:27 PM ET

July 22, 2011

blonde muslims

not saying that this guy was a muslim convert but I do remember Al Qaeda thinking about using non Arabic, Caucasian muslims to do terror attacks in the West. It is possible, but further investigation is needed into this young man's life and social network to determine what caused this outburst. 80 teens murdered in cold blood. truly a heinous crime, regardless if the perp is Muslim or Christian.

 

ALEXREES

3:32 AM ET

July 23, 2011

If you think atheism is a

If you think atheism is a religion then you presumably also think not playing sport is a sport?

 

TDPUBS

6:34 PM ET

July 22, 2011

Terror in peace and war time.

It is the time honored strategy to create chaos and destruction where it is least expected. The people behind these acts understand that the fear they elicit will be felt in many places around the world regardless of the security precautions taken and the message will be clear. "We know how to keep you afraid." We must show them that their power is short lived. Their power lasts only as long as the bomb or bullet and we will not kneel or cower to them.
The good people of every nation are with the Norwegians today. We'll be with you tomorrow as well.

 

COUNTCHOCULA1011

7:26 PM ET

July 22, 2011

Why is no one mentioning Gaddafi?

It was probably some group backed by Gaddafi. The Norwegians have been actively bombing Libya for the last 6 months or so, and Gaddafi did say that he would strike back in a similar fashion. I don't get why all the news reports are acting as if this is some huge shocker. Norway isn't some peace loving nation, they're a nation at war with quite a few people at the moment.

 

DARRENPAULSON

8:50 PM ET

July 22, 2011

Shocking To See This Happen In Norway

Nothing will get me in the mode of losing sleep faster than when I observe an otherwise quiet country getting hit with acts of terrorism.

My heart goes out to the people of Norway this evening and to all of the families who have suffered at the hands of an, as yet unknown, terrorist act.

I am truly sorry to be reading about this today.

 

CHECKMOOT

10:12 PM ET

July 22, 2011

9/11 ?

Not Norways 9/11, rather Norways Oklahoma City. Their version of Timothy McVeigh, not Osama Bin Laden, although, in view of the fact that Norway was involved in the Iraq Invasion, the Afghan war and is currently bombing Libyans, It would be no surprise if some of them tried to hit back.

 

MARTY MARTEL

4:01 AM ET

July 23, 2011

Only solution - Offer more aid to Pakistan

Only solution for Norway is to do what US did in 2001 - open the aid spigots to Pakistan and again attack Taliban bases in Afghanistan while totally ignoring Taliban/Al Qaeda‘s Pakistani roots.

Nobody forced Pakistani government to facilitate relocation of Osama bin Laden from Sudan to Afghanistan in 1996. Democratic government of Pakistan chose to do so of its own free will.

As Sandy Berger, Clinton’s national security advisor told 9/11 Commission in 2004, Pakistani Army was the midwife of Taliban. UN report on Bhutto killing released on 4/15/10 confirmed this fact when it noted that "The PAKISTANI MILITARY ORGANIZED AND SUPPORTED THE TALIBAN TO TAKE CONTROL OF AFGHANISTAN IN 1996“.

 

TOEKNEEF

10:45 AM ET

July 23, 2011

Oslo's 9/11 - NO

It is disappointing to see Foreign Policy post such a flawed piece of drivel. The rush to be first in online reporting cannot be a sufficient excuse for this kind of shoddiness. As we now KNOW, it was a home grown right-wing extremist like our own Timothy McVeigh who carried out this heinous act. Mr. Homans WASTES the entire article on all too facile speculation, that turns out to be wrong. Hopefully he will learn from this episode and not rush willy-nilly to print. There were many different approaches he could have taken to this story, too bad he went for the all too easy and ended up with egg on his face.

 

OPEMILY

7:32 PM ET

July 23, 2011

Shouldn't someone take this

Shouldn't someone take this down or include an update that this speculation was disproven. It's really unprofessional.

 

AUKPERSPECTIVE

8:15 PM ET

August 5, 2011

Yes Norways 9/11 but not for the same reasons as in US

Yes this was Norway's 9/11 in terms of the scale of the slaughter relative to the population and the effect on the public. However as we now know this was not the work of Islamic extremists but the work of a sole lone wolf right wing extremist. The impact though was the same. However much as neo Nazi groups may be enjoying victory parties in London and elsewhere Norway was a disaster for right wing groups politically . Every extreme right wing group is tarred with this tragedy especially since the revelations re the EDL links.

 

STFREECHOICE

7:19 PM ET

August 7, 2011

Danger of jumping to conclusions?

It was embarrassing how many experts jumped at the Islamic explanation without at least qualifying it with other possible explanations. I suspect that includes Kristian Harpviken. However I am sorry to say that the Norwegian authorities will need to face the music over this too. It appears they did not have a contingency plan for how to deal with a lone gunman type incident which is shocking.

 

CRYSTALBALL

8:10 PM ET

August 11, 2011

We were all looking the wrong way

I guess we were all looking the wrong way more fool us. Let the looney right enjoy the party for now but by Christmas security services across Europe will have planted people in all their organizations and have months of phone taps . I mean these guys are not exactly rocket scientists with the Facebook friends and Twittering. They will not have such a great New Year that is for sure. We got complacent but not any more.

 

BRIAN KRAUSHAAR

1:47 AM ET

August 16, 2011

Norway's 9/11?

FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND MY OBSERVATION, There was a palpable sense of relief amongst the chattering classes when it was revealed the alleged killer in Norway is a white man with far-Right tendencies.This allowed them to air their prejudice that it is not Muslims who pose a threat to Western societies but rather the moronic masses at home. whose apparent dearth of cosmopolitanism can easily translate into murderous rage. A writer for The Guardian almost gleefully said the violence in Norway shows the threat to civilisation isn't from foreigners, rather, "the heart of darkness lies buried deep within ourselves", even within the "white Nordic male".If anyone was in any doubt as to what this "heart of darkness" consists of, an article in The Age spelt it out. The massacre in Norway was a product of that country's "racist demons", it said.Apparently, "many Norwegians don't want their idyll spoiled, by either joining the European Union or by turning multicultural, and it is this nativist side of the country that has now turned horrifyingly murderous".In short, lacey duvalle is not an aberration; he's the logical product of Norway's warped national traits. He is what happens when a section of the European people dares to oppose the EU or criticise multiculturalism.Where some on the Right claim that occasional acts of Islamist violence speak to the rotten nature of Islam, some liberals claim a rare act of far-Right fury springs from the "heart of darkness" of Europe's backward-thinking people.

 

AXELBROOK

5:10 AM ET

August 19, 2011

No. One has to wonder what

No. One has to wonder what Sen. Obama would do if the Iranians told him to kiss their ass? I don't think he understands who this enemy is or what they are capable of. RIO Obama is not ready to govern anything..

 

ANNITA261

11:09 AM ET

August 20, 2011

Norway's 9/11?

Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of Norway's Peace Research Institute Oslo, explains why the Norwegian capital might have been on a terrorist's shortlist of potential targets. Only solution for Norway is to do what US did in 2001 - open the aid spigots to Pakistan and again attack Taliban bases in Afghanistan while totally ignoring Taliban/Al Qaeda‘s Pakistani roots. Nobody forced Pakistani government to facilitate relocation of Osama bin Laden from Sudan to Afghanistan in 1996. Democratic government of Pakistan chose to do so of its own free will. As Sandy Berger, Clin check it out It was embarrassing how many experts jumped at the Islamic explanation without at least qualifying it with other possible explanations. I suspect that includes Kristian Harpviken. However I am sorry to say that the Norwegian authorities will need to face the music over this too. It appears they did not have a contingency plan for how to deal with a lone gunman type incident which is shocking.