The Kids Aren't Alright

What's really behind Britain's wave of youth violence?

BY PORTIA WALKER | AUGUST 10, 2011

LONDON — Buildings are charred and shops barricaded closed. Helicopters circle low overhead. London's prison cells are all full. Police are flooding the streets of the capital. For four days now, mobs have run amok in multiple areas across this city, looting, brawling, and terrorizing people.  

As a mob stormed through a warm Monday night on a west London street, restaurants locked their doors and diners headed home early.

"There's just a lot of very frustrated, very fed up, young guys around," reflected Logan Wilmont, an advertising director from Belfast, which has certainly seen its own fair share of unrest. "They're living at a time where they can't have anything. We're living in a broken moment."

British Prime Minister David Cameron and London Mayor Boris Johnson have characterized the recent events as wholly criminal. "This is criminality pure and simple, and it has to be confronted and defeated," Cameron told reporters from outside his residence at 10 Downing Street. On a visit to the riot-hit south London suburb of Clapham, Johnson said to residents, "It's time we heard a little bit less about the sociological justifications for what is in my view nothing less than wanton criminality."

That's understandable language when leaders need to look tough, but elsewhere, questions are being asked about the underlying social and economic factors that could have prompted this unrest. Opposition politicians were quick to make connections between the social unrest and government policy. In an interview with BBC, Harriet Harman, deputy leader of the Labour Party, suggested recent cuts to government spending on higher education could have been a motivating factor in the violence. Johnson's left-leaning predecessor, Ken "Red" Livingstone, talked about a bleak world for many of London's poorest youths, "This is the first generation since the Great Depression that have doubts about their future," he said in an interview.

What happened in London -- and is now happening in Birmingham and Manchester -- is not an obviously political protest; there are no banners on display, no clear demands being made. But it's not simply a large-scale crime wave either. The perpetrators -- mostly young men and women (some as young as 11) -- acted in public. This was deliberate antagonism under the glare of media spotlight. They smashed windows and stole goods as the television cameras rolled, knowing that their actions would be captured on Britain's extensive network of closed-circuit televisions. So what touched off such wanton destruction?

Race certainly plays a role, as the violence spun out of a protest over the police killing of a 29-year-old black man, Mark Duggan, in the north London suburb of Tottenham on Aug. 4. Much of the subsequent civil disobedience was directed against London's Metropolitan Police, which in recent years has experienced prickly relations with the city's Afro-Caribbean community. But this was not a race riot; it included people from a range of backgrounds and ethnicities, who were without any unified ideological cause.

For many at both ends of the political spectrum, this was the latest episode in the slow unraveling of the social order in Britain. The police may have restored a modicum of order to the city, but the riots brought to the fore a small segment of society usually in the shadows: a troubled underclass wracked by bubbling discontent and growing lawlessness. Public opinion of the riots is increasingly polarized. Right-leaning newspapers in Britain regularly report on the anti-social behavior of what are often described as "feral youth": poor, unemployed young people often from minority backgrounds who conduct campaigns of petty crime and harassment within their own communities. But for others, the anarchic behavior points to a deeper discontent and raises doubts about whether the austerity budget recently introduced by the new coalition government is politically sustainable.

LEON NEAL/AFP/Getty Images

 

Portia Walker is a freelance journalist.

POPSEAL

9:51 PM ET

August 10, 2011

fruit of socialism

London's Zombie Apocalypse is nothing but the results of socialism's education. Taught by nefarious politicians that they need the government to be successful in life, and believing it, generations of welfare dependents run amok occasionally because the promise is never fulfilled. The socialist promise is an insult to human dignity and esteem. It says, "You are not capable". Few things in life bring nobility to the soul as accountable and honest 'self provision'. Our inner cities here in the U.S. are a desperate testimony to the truth whereof I speak. Solution: fire the politicians that made the promise 2. re-educate the poor souls that believed the lie It even says, "Thou shall not steal!" which easily declares that we have a right to private property and the use of our own honest earnings.

 

SRE601

3:17 PM ET

August 11, 2011

There is no such thing as

There is no such thing as self provision anymore. We've become slaves to wages and being self sustaining is pretty much impossible. Somehow I don't see how millions of people who have to work in crappy conditions, crappy jobs, for low wages, feel a sense of nobility when the head to work everyday. Socialism is pretty much a necessary "evil" as you might say, but it all depends on which side of the spectrum you stand.

 

PKOULIEV

12:47 PM ET

August 12, 2011

Self provision or socialist promise

I liked this part specially: "The socialist promise is an insult to human dignity and esteem. It says, "You are not capable". Few things in life bring nobility to the soul as accountable and honest 'self provision'." Very well said.

 

PKOULIEV

1:17 PM ET

August 12, 2011

Bringing down communists, creating system of socialist promises

As Iron Lady Thatcher and President Reagan took credit for bringing down Iron Curtain and a demise of Soviet regime, western open societies applauded for getting rid of 'Evil' empire. This 'evil' empire's full name was Union of Soviet Socialistic Republics. It was not called communist republics. At this time, we have a boomerang effect of creating our own 'evil' system of socialist promises. As much as we hated communist dictatorships, governments of free societies let election promises to go in contract with fundamental beliefs of individual liberties as driving force of any healthy society.

 

CADILLACTIGHT

1:40 PM ET

August 29, 2011

Agree

I totally Agree with you.
Edsall history pages directories

 

XIRA666

10:50 PM ET

August 10, 2011

Natural result of lack of opportunity.

When you are born poor, can't get a leg up, don't have connections, and your parents have none of the above; you are going to stay poor in today's society. End of story. Hard work will only take a person so far.

These youths know that. They are fully aware that 'the man' is keeping them down and their miserable squalid existence is set to continue and there's no way for them to escape, no matter what they do.

So over the last few days, the braver among them have rioted. They have decided that since a decent standard of living is 'off limits' to them if they play by the rules, they'll break the rules.

A larger issue is that the number of jobs that the average or below-average person can do is declining. It's all robots and computers these days, and if you don't have money and a high genetic-IQ you don't get the skills you need to use them.

Eventually society must become fair-er without regard to the productivity of a person, or we must brutally oppress all those who are no longer useful to us.

The choice is ours.

 

WERDERJIM

2:29 AM ET

August 11, 2011

So if I rioted and went and

So if I rioted and went and destroyed some random person's stuff (yours) would I be brave too?

And ya, I don't know what to say about the inequality of genetic IQ. I mean "life is hard, life is harder if you're stupid."

 

GUNDARICUS

4:46 AM ET

August 11, 2011

No, it isn't

"When you are born poor, can't get a leg up, don't have connections, and your parents have none of the above; you are going to stay poor in today's society. End of story. Hard work will only take a person so far."

What nonsense. European countries have changed so much that social mobility is unprecedented in history. You are merely copy-pasting class warfare fairy tales.

"These youths know that. They are fully aware that 'the man' is keeping them down and their miserable squalid existence is set to continue and there's no way for them to escape, no matter what they do."

Ah, marxist dribble. No need to read any further.

 

GUNDARICUS

5:26 AM ET

August 11, 2011

No future in Spain, either

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/8691239/Police-fire-rubber-bullets-as-tourists-riot-in-Lloret-de-Mar.html

Tourists have rioted in Lloret de Mar. Police fired rubber bullets on them. Now, XIRA666, I presume you find this also an act of the brutally oppressed? Did "the man" follow them on vacation and the bravest among them have rioted? Must vacation resorts become fairer, and stop the brutal oppression of tourists?

 

XIRA666

1:30 PM ET

August 11, 2011

Doing something because it is

Doing something because it is the only way to get redress in regards to overall equality is brave, especially when it's certifiable that you'll be caught because of the surveillance state.
There is nothing that a oppressor likes more than a polite oppressed mass.

And, if you haven't noticed, social mobility has dropped off a cliff in the last 30 years in GB. Part of that is the new requirement for a high genetic-IQ to land a decent job, part of that is the requirement for intensive and expensive training from an early age. You are spewing rightist "bootstrap" fairy tales.

 

BENJAMINFRANKLIN

12:38 AM ET

August 12, 2011

Repentence

I read that England is going to render redundant 16,000 policemen. The well to do have decided that they will not give the underclass a hand up, and that they also won't pay the amount needed to suppress them. They shall repent at leisure.

 

GUNDARICUS

3:12 AM ET

August 12, 2011

@XIRA666 Britain is a

@XIRA666

Britain is a democracy. There is nothing brave about looting and rioting in Britain. You are using the plight of people who actually *ARE* brave enough to take on *REAL* oppressor such as the Arabs for your own distorted views. Your political opinion looks suspiciously like a consumption article.

Look above for social mobility issues.

 

ISABEL DE LOS RIOS

5:06 PM ET

August 12, 2011

Partly right...

The lack of opportunity is partly what caused this, but it isn't the main cause. The main cause is the authoritarian police in the UK. These kids hate the police, there corrupt, total control freaks, and spend most of there day searching young black kids.

But its not just the police. These kids are also rioting for other reasons, such as a new tv, new PlayStation, new clothes, ext. But there also doing it because they see it as fun, which is a serious problem.

Isabel De Los Rios

 

KOOKABURRA

11:34 PM ET

August 12, 2011

Natural result of lack of opportunity

Sorry to spoil your idealism. Your ideas, aspirations and values would be more alien and incomprehencible to those out of control crowd members than to a citizen of the Neolithic age.

You are imagining that these out of control crowd members possess a perspective, awareness and worldview that makes them feel 'the man' is keeping them down, that society is unfairly depriving them of "opportunities".

If you looked inside their heads you would find their world is no bigger than the next block, their only ambition to assert their place in the local pack of hooded delinquents and the rest of society is not on their radar screen. Their prime motivation is thrills to break the blankness and boredom in their heads. Their yearnings for a higher standard of living extend to more electronic gadgets, peer fashion and cars, end of story.

You might care to ponder why so many base level, unskilled and service jobs in the UK are held by eastern Europeans, most of whom are pleased to be employed and determined to move ahead by hard work.

Their brains are functioning differently than the locals, that's why. Formed by no expectation of welfare, a disciplined schooling and fear of the police. All things allowed to drift away in UK society.

 

MICHAELGERALDPDEALINO

11:02 PM ET

August 10, 2011

Really?

Poverty and perceived inequality are not excuses for anarchy. These are just a bunch of hooligans.

 

XIRA666

11:38 PM ET

August 10, 2011

There is nothing a dictator

There is nothing a dictator likes better than a polite nonviolent opposition movement.

 

MICHAELGERALDPDEALINO

11:41 PM ET

August 10, 2011

Wrong.

I am a Filipino, from the Philippines. My people removed dictator Ferdinand Marcos through our peaceful People Power Revolution in 1986. And Eastern Europe did it, too, in 1989. Think again.

 

DAVID R MORRISON

12:16 PM ET

August 11, 2011

These kids are our future? Scarry

I find it highly disturbing what is going on with all of this different youth violence, it's really a shame. Not only are the kids in London breaking out in violence, but all of this stuff going on in Philadelphia with the young kid flash mobs who are randomly beating up innocent people. It's like the youth today have absolutely no guidance or are not taught what this kind of violence can lead to.

And it's really a shame because I don't think that a lot of people realize that not only are they effecting the people that they are flinging these violent acts on, but they are also going to end up damaging their own lives by really hurting someone or even killing someone. A lot of people are saying that these kids are all hyped up because of cocaineaddiction or a vicodinaddiction and this really does not surprise me. Mixing violence with drugs and drug addiction can be extremely dangerous and I'm scarred of what these out of control, possibly drug addicted kids could do next.

I know one thing for sure, if I found my kid was doing these types of things I would not be standing for it.

Like where are the parents in these cases? There has to be some sort of blame put on the parents because you cannot just let you kid be out running rampid. Know where your kids are and keep them under control or this world is really going to be turning much more violent.

Someone needs to do something about this, hence the government. And if Londons government can't afford it then one of the wealthy affiliate of London needs to chip in some money to help this problem.

These kids are our future by the way...

 

BENJAMINFRANKLIN

12:45 AM ET

August 12, 2011

Vicodin

Vicodin is hardly a stimulant. It is the mildest of opiates. I take it at bed time, so I can sleep despite my crippling arthritis. It makes one drowsy and quiescent.

 

BRIANB

9:33 PM ET

August 11, 2011

More Riots Please

Some people here are freaking morons. You seem to think that the only options available to politicians are left-wing socialist "give away giant bags of money to poor people who don't work for it" or else right-wing Darwinist "poor people are all lazy criminals who don't contribute to society and should be left to starve". You think that all people think according to this right-left spectrum and there's absolutely no other answers.

This is moronic. You have ignored the fact that all these politically influential people, wherever they may be in the world and whether they're right or left, have giant dollar signs in their eyes whenever they deal with government. Conservatives are lying to you when they say they care about government spending and fostering a healthy economy and lowering YOUR taxes. No, they want to lower the taxes of the executive who contributed to his political campaign and strip regulations on business so he can rape and pillage his own company and abuse his own workers in order to raise his own salary. He doesn't give a damn about any of the things he said he did.

Likewise, liberals are lying to you when they say they want to help the middle and lower classes and create social programs. No, they want to grossly overpay those same executives that contributed to his political campaign for social programs like medicare, social security and public housing (which are all poorly implemented and understaffed) so that executive can line his pockets with all that unnecessary spending and people can wonder why nothing seems to be getting better. He doesn't give a damn about poor people and social welfare.

So I say, riot and burn and destroy all the property and personal possessions of those elite who are benefiting at the expense of everyone else. And feel free to hack to death all liberal, conservative and pro-business executives and politicians because the world will be better off without those people.

 

FIFTH HORSEMAN

9:47 PM ET

August 11, 2011

Yes, the Coalition of the

Yes, the Coalition of the Willing is nothing like those lawless thugs in the Middle East: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b74BdPfSQ&feature=player_embedded

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/11/article-2024485-0D62603C00000578-213_306x754.jpg

Wonder how the Coaltion of the Willing/Crocodile Tears would handle it if the kids suddenly showed up with AK-47s and RPGs and declaring themselves an independent state?

 

KAMPER

10:23 AM ET

August 12, 2011

This video paints things a

This video paints things a bit differently:
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/police-stand-down-london-burns-2011
It seems like the rioting was done for fun, sport and for profit and the police stood by and let it go on much longer than they needed to.

"We kept a dignified response to that, to allow that protest to take place. However, once that extreme violence, and it was violence that could not be anticipated on that scale, occurred, we moved the appropriate level of resources in."

Even if we assume that the rioting was primarily done "for fun, sport, SWTOR and for profit", that doesn't mean our analysis should stop there. People who are financially secure, with meaningful life choices available to them don't loot and riot for fun, sport, or profit. This is why looters and rioters are predominantly working class or poor people, they're the people who've been marginalized and who lack realistic opportunities for improvement. They're the people getting severely screwed while the rich blast off into the economic stratosphere.

 

DIEGOANDRADE

4:03 PM ET

August 12, 2011

British Prime Minister David

British Prime Minister David Cameron and London Mayor Boris Johnson have characterized the recent events as wholly criminal.They are seeing these riots as crime, because the real crime was committed for them first. The way that the young are claiming their rights is not the best way to, but we cannot consider these people as criminals, crime is the condition these people were living. The London’s Mayor told that this is the first generation since the Great Depression that have doubts about their future, and the simple questions the politicians have to make is : Why does this generation have doubts about their own future? And now some right-leaning newspapers want to transfer the guilty to the younger, described them as a feral youth! Come on !!!

British Prime Minister David Cameron and London Mayor Boris Johnson have to assume their responsibilities !!! SOCIAL PROBLEMS is the problem!!
Upper class and lower class always existed and they always will, the role of government is decrease the inequality between them!

Diego Andrade

 

LEGREATONE

11:21 AM ET

August 15, 2011

Could it be a lack of Respect?

It has been said the the UK has a very good system of Social Welfare, that the state "takes care of" those who would otherwise "fall through the cracks".

Let me ask this: How many of these young "hooligans", many using state assistance, feel that they are RESPECTED as human beings with the right to exist, and the potential to overcome whatever it is that holds them back?

I'm not implying that anyone in particular may have pointed to them as a group, and said "We will no longer respect this segment of society", but when one THINKS that he or she is not respected, that is indeed a very difficult thing to handle.

When one is considered a member of a separate "inferior" class, that is also a difficult thing to handle.

What I'm trying to explain is that there are many ways that societies discriminate and decide that certain groups are not deserving of basic human dignity and respect, and then they go out of their way to develop an "Us verses Them" attitude.
Those who rely on state assistance due to unemployment, disability, or unfortunate circumstances nearly always qualify as "Them".

Success breeds a false sense of superiority.
I'm not sure where this false sense of superiority comes from, but it allows the succesful "Us" to classify the unsuccessful "Them" as a distinctly different and unacceptable form of life.

We are not perfect beings, whether successful or not, but if we could bridge the distance between "Us" and "Them", possibly though understanding and/or wearing the other man's shoes, then perhaps we could develop a mutual respect for each other.

This is not a new idea, but it is so seldom used that it needs to be mentioned.

 

JKW123

10:06 PM ET

August 15, 2011

Khyber Pass

The UK will survive. The comments I've seen above that argue the loss of self respect through welfare or lack of access to respectable British society seem to ignore that England has a history of poor laws dating back to the 1550's at the very least and further, to lay out an unspoken premise that there is a monolithic "poor" person involved.. But that simply can't be. Logic dictates that laying about on welfare is a way of life for some, a necessary evil for others, and a short stop in the immigration of many.. In brief, there probably is not one single monolithic person who is the "kids." And Cameron, by laying about him with a blanket stereotype, is simply engaging in schoolboy taunting of his fellows caught engaging in riotous behavior. Oh, well, they're criminals so that's OK. Yeah. Right. But God help England if it ever has to hold a Khyber Pass again with tools like Cameron running around.

 

IMANT

8:27 AM ET

August 16, 2011

The main problem is that

The main problem is that there is no hope for these young people. Just imagine - they have nothing and they see that their parents have nothing, and they understand that they may end up just like that - it is a vicious circle that you cannot break. They are just desperate, and they want people, the goverment to hear them. That is their way to say that - the violence. It is wrong and won't get them anywhere, they make situation only worse. And they probably understand that, so it is desperation that is screaming inside of them. But I agree with some of the commenters and the author of the article that the governmet has its own part of the guilt in everything that is going on right now.
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HELPDADDY

1:00 PM ET

August 25, 2011

Disturbing

The riots are indeed disturbing, hard to imagine how these had happened. I agree with the other comments that the government is at fault here for not providing them the opportunity and support. Another thing to look at this is the parenting that these troubled youth got from their parents. Anyway you look at it, rioting, looting and the likes are not justifiable acts for somehow who grew up to the ideals of their respectable parents even though they grew up poor. Just my opinion.

 

CHANGS

11:57 AM ET

August 31, 2011

Corporations are at fault

Corporations are more at fault than governments is this issue. Instead of creating factories and jobs in developed countries they are exporting all jobs to undeveloped countries such as China and India where they can take advantage of cheap labor.

Once the labor costs of China and India increase these same corporations will move on to different 3rd World countries. While I am sure some in India and China will object to being called 3rd World countries if they take an honest look at the conditions of the majority of their citizens they will see that while becoming powerful in the World, they are still basically 3rd World countries as far as the majority of their citizens are concerned.

We need new standards that require corporations to look to the welfare of the countries where they operate instead of basing everything on what will make them the greatest amount of money for the least cost. Corporations and governments need to take a long term view instead of the short term view of maximizing profits for the next quarter.

We need new ideas and new standards to ensure job growth in developed countries as well as in developing countries. We need to move away from the ridiculous idea that corporations are people and move to the idea that the role of corporations is to serve the people of the country where they do business.

ChangS

 

MATHALIE

6:57 AM ET

September 4, 2011

If you looked inside their

If you looked inside their heads you would find their world is no bigger than the next block, their only ambition to assert their place in the local pack of hooded delinquents and the rest of society is not on their radar screen. Their prime motivation is thrills to break the blankness and boredom in their heads. Their yearnings for a higher standard of living extend to more electronic gadgets, peer fashion and cars, end of story.You might care to ponder why so many base level, sázkové tipy unskilled and service jobs in the UK are held by eastern Europeans, most of whom are pleased to be employed and determined to move ahead by hard work.

 

EGISTUBAGUS

9:47 AM ET

September 7, 2011

first generation since that have doubts about their future

i do agree with Ken "Red" Livingstone, talked about a bleak world for many of London's poorest youths, "This is the first generation since the Great Depression that have doubts about their future," (gedehumidifier, lgdehumidifier, santafedehumidifier soleusdehumidifier, / soleusdehumidifier, /rubbermaidtrashcans, simplehumantrashcan, simplehumantrashcan/ boschcoffeemaker, topratedcoffeemakers,)