Can Obama Be Just Like Ike?

If you want to cut the defense budget, ask a Republican (just not these Republicans).

BY JAMES TRAUB | AUGUST 12, 2011

 

Defense spending now absorbs roughly a quarter of the national budget, and over half of discretionary spending. The current debt-ceiling deal reached by Congress and the White House would essentially eliminate increases over the next two years in a broad category that includes defense as well as homeland security, diplomacy, and foreign aid, and would then limit growth thereafter to 2 percent. If Congress chooses to apportion future cuts equally between security and non-security accounts, reductions in the former would amount to $420 billion -- the figure the Obama administration uses to demonstrate the depth of its commitment to reducing defense spending. But the deal permits Congress to find cuts anywhere it chooses beyond the next two years, passing over the Pentagon and going after anything from the State Department to student loans. The $420 billion may be a chimera.

If, however, the bipartisan congressional "supercommittee" tasked with finding an additional $1.5 trillion in cuts fails to reach agreement -- as seems extremely likely -- then the automatic cuts this would trigger would lop another $600 billion or so from the Pentagon. The White House has discussed this plan as if it were the sort of doomsday machine dreamed up by a James Bond villain. Jack Lew, director of the Office of Management and Budget, has explained that the cuts are meant to be so self-evidently "unpalatable" that the bipartisan commission will feel compelled to reach agreement. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has stated that such "hasty, ill-conceived" cuts would undermine U.S. national security.

Blunderbuss reductions do seem like a bad idea. But what about non-hasty, well-conceived cuts? In a series of recent reports, Pentagon experts and budget-cutters like Sen. Coburn have proposed cuts of $1 trillion -- almost exactly the sum of the $420 billion from the first round of cuts and the $600 billion that would be triggered by the failure of the bipartisan commission. The striking similarity of the details of these reports, despite their authors' radically differing political views, implies that it's not so very hard to find deep reductions in so massive an enterprise as the Defense Department. All propose a reduction in both civilian and military personnel; a redeployment of forces now stationed in Europe and Asia; the cancellation or shrinkage of planned procurements for fighter aircraft, helicopters, aircraft carriers, and missile defense; reforms in military health care; and a downsizing of the nuclear weapons stockpile. Even after such cuts, the United States would still be spending as much as it ever did during the Cold War, when it was in perpetual conflict with the Soviet Union, which it deemed an existential threat to the West.

But you won't hear this from the Obama administration, whose officials have been unwilling to propose anything deeper than the (notional) $420 billion cuts of round one. A White House official told me that Obama thinks that he has already made pretty much all the cuts in discretionary spending he's prepared to accept. So does this mean that the Obama administration is to the right of Coburn and Chambliss on defense spending? When I posed the question in this form, the official went silent, and finally said, "Let me get back to you on that. This is incredibly sensitive." When he got back to me later that day, he disputed my use of "left" and "right" and pointed out that "as commander in chief, the president has very unique responsibilities and a very unique perspective." The answer, in short, was yes.

The president does, indeed, have grave responsibilities; and the world is certainly a very dangerous place, and his military commanders probably make a very convincing case that they need all those soldiers and all those weapons. But all the other wars have ended on a Republican's watch. And whatever success he -- and George W. Bush -- have had against al Qaeda, Obama might still believe that he can't afford to reverse the course of defense spending as his predecessors have.

But he might be wrong. "He really does have political leeway," says Gordon Adams, a former national security expert in the Office of Management and Budget during Bill Clinton's administration and now a leading member of the trillion-dollar-cut club. "But he may not believe that he does."

If the bipartisan commission collapses in disarray and the 2012 presidential campaign becomes a referendum on America's fiscal future -- it can scarcely be otherwise -- I hope Obama will find the courage to stand up to the Pentagon and its numberless minions and defenders. He may, as Adams suggests, find more profit in doing so than he expects.

 

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James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

JYS390

10:28 PM ET

August 12, 2011

"I hope Obama will find the courage..."

Quick answer: He won't.

 

MITTAL

5:58 AM ET

August 13, 2011

Don't Worry America India will save yoou

In the good old days, Pentagon would have mobiklized every defense contractor, and who in turn will tablulate how many jobs are in every congressman district showing how their constiuents jobs will cut tied to any defense program. Oneway or another these kind of data became full court press.

my my , these must be really desperate trying time that the nation must choose between useless Obamacare no meaningful health care reform, vs seniors who can only survive on social security/foodstamps with no other means of support, and the Sacredsant Defense Budget.

Don't people in this country even worry about China getting ahead in arm race, don't people in this country even scare of bad bad China at all??

Com'on America, Let India save you all.

seniors can go live in Bombay at a fraction of cost & be well taken care of, Social Security budget redcued by 3/4.

one millions visas for Indians doctors, nurses, foot massage, back rub practitioners, Health Care cost reduced by 3/4

outsource prime high paying defense jobs to Indians, Denfesne budget cut by 2/3.

or Bush era tax cut shall stay. Then better off Americans can hire more illegals for domestic help or yard work.

Soon as smart Indians techie gurus like me get one of these prime high paying defense job, may I can afford to hire some unemployed american for domestic help

 

MITTAL

6:04 AM ET

August 13, 2011

Don't Worry America India will save yoou

In the good old days, Pentagon would have mobiklized every defense contractor, and who in turn will tablulate how many jobs are in every congressman district showing how their constiuents jobs will cut tied to any defense program. Oneway or another these kind of data became full court press.

my my , these must be really desperate trying time that the nation must choose between useless Obamacare no meaningful health care reform, vs seniors who can only survive on social security/foodstamps with no other means of support, and the Sacredsant Defense Budget.

Don't people in this country even worry about China getting ahead in arm race, don't people in this country even scare of bad bad China at all??

Com'on America, Let India save you all.

seniors can go live in Bombay at a fraction of cost & be well taken care of, Social Security budget redcued by 3/4.

one millions visas for Indians doctors, nurses, foot massage, back rub practitioners, Health Care cost reduced by 3/4

outsource prime high paying defense jobs to Indians, Denfesne budget cut by 2/3.

or Bush era tax cut shall stay. Then better off Americans can hire more illegals for domestic help or yard work.

Soon as smart Indians techie gurus like me get one of these prime high paying defense job, may I can afford to hire some unemployed american for domestic help

 

MACHETE

10:37 AM ET

August 13, 2011

We are currently outspending

We are currently outspending most of the world combined in defense spending. We out spend China three times over. At this rate a group of third world taliban renegades will bankrupt the strongest nation in the world. Another huge expense no one wants to talk about much less tackle is the huge disabled veteran problem. In a recent NY Times article , they explain that the growing problem of disabiliy claims from the middle east wars will soon approach those of social security.

 

NRM

11:38 AM ET

August 13, 2011

Check his facts

This guy is fooling you. Over his two terms in office, Reagan increased military spending by 35%. I got this from the best: whitehouse.gov. Here's a link to the article: http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/ronaldreagan.

The author knew of this and intentionally hid it. Read the following sentence of his carefully: "Even Ronald Reagan, who lavished money on the Pentagon with the express purpose of bankrupting the Soviets, cut the budget by 10 percent during his second term."
This guy is fooling you. Over his two terms in office, Reagan increased military spending by 35%. I got this from the best: whitehouse.gov. Here's a link to the article: http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/ronaldreagan.

The author knew of this and intentionally hid it. Read the following sentence of his carefully: "Even Ronald Reagan, who lavished money on the Pentagon with the express purpose of bankrupting the Soviets, cut the budget by 10 percent during his second term."

The US has a military-socialist economy, a fascist congress, and banana republic levels of corruption and nepotism. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world due to a failed war on drugs. We are on the forefront of medical breakthroughs, yet we are one of the unhealthiest populations in the developed world. In Iraq we have killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in a needless war of conquest, a war for oil. Torture, slavery, needless secrecy, international meddling, the list goes on and on and on...

Those whose eyes and ears are open and who seek information know that the USA is the sleazebag of the new century. What can WE THE PEOPLE do about this?

Neither party will do anything substantial, because the current system is in a happy equilibrium, benefiting both parties and their wealthy friends. (A third party would just get co-opted by one of the two existing parties.)

I think the answer is clear, but we won't develop the collective will to throw the lying, cheating, hypocrites off our backs until they have fully reamed us. When we are in the next Great Depression, when their bellies are full and their testicles empty, as they stumble back in post-orgasmic stupor, let us take advantage of their momentary weakness and our strength, gifted to us by their pleasure and our pain, and let us beat them back with words, protests, referendums, massive strikes, and if need be, riots and outright revolution. (Such an utterance is protected speech, by the way. You are allowed to say it too.) When we have regained control of what is rightfully ours (our country), let us bind them with laws so they can't rape again.

P.S. If you, the reader, tend to browse conservative sites, perhaps you should add some variety to your diet. Here are some good ones: salon.com, truth-out.org, and democracynow.org.
The US has a military-socialist economy, a fascist congress, and banana republic levels of corruption and nepotism. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world due to a failed war on drugs. We're on the forefront of medical breakthroughs, yet we're one of the unhealthiest countries in the developed world. We've killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in a needless war of conquest, a war for oil. Torture, slavery, international meddling, the list goes on and on and on...

What can WE THE PEOPLE do about all this? Neither party will do anything substantial, because the current system is in a happy equilibrium, benefiting both parties and their wealthy friends. (A third party would just get co-opted by one of the two existing parties.)

I think the answer is clear, but we won't develop the collective will to throw the lying, cheating, hypocrites off our backs until they have fully reamed us. When we're in the next Great Depression, when their bellies are full and their testicles empty, as they stumble back in post-orgasmic stupor, let us take advantage of our momentary strength, gifted to us by our pain, and let us beat them back with words, protests, referendums, massive strikes, and if need be, riots and outright revolution. When we've regained control of what is rightfully ours (our country), let us bind them with laws so they can't rape again.

P.S. If you, the reader, tend to browse conservative sites, perhaps you should add some variety to your diet. Here are a few: salon.com, truth-out.org, and democracynow.org.

 

IDEA

7:27 AM ET

August 14, 2011

Save America

Obama Save America

 

SERVEANDCONSERVE

11:59 AM ET

August 19, 2011

Obama the great ike!

Obama is most like the following modern POTUS: Jimmy Carter. Same energy plan. Same Economic plan. Same anti-semitism. Same Socialism. Same Anti-military. Same lame foriegn policy. Same pro-islamo-facists. Same pro-welfare and benefits. Same pro-union. However, he does resemble Bill Clinton in his ability to 'spin' and 'lie' and be a bold face hypocrit, as well as violate the Constitution. When America comes to grips with the reality of what Obama is, and where this is going, and the price that will have to be paid, they will be disgusted as I already am. This is going to be a disaster like going to funeral homes in cleveland ohio where we have alot of violence and it will continue under this leadership.
This is a work of art !!! Even better, much better than my -

The audacity of hope was for his campaign
Tyranny, thuggery and demonization are for his reign
His candidacy was rather like that of a Harry Houdini
His presidency is shaping up to be much more like that of a Benito Mussolini

Although he tries to slip it all in under another guise
To all his fascist action most foul we must still be wise
In spite of all the Harry Houdini lies
Dancing in Obama’s evermore Benito Mussolini eyes!

 

MATHALIE

6:06 AM ET

September 4, 2011

The US has a

The US has a military-socialist economy, a fascist congress, and banana republic levels of corruption and nepotism. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world due to a failed war on drugs. We are on the forefront of medical sázkové tipy breakthroughs, yet we are one of the unhealthiest populations in the developed world. In Iraq we have killed and maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in a needless war of conquest, a war for oil. Torture, slavery, needless secrecy, international meddling, the list goes on and on and on...
Those whose eyes and ears are open and who seek information know that the USA is the sleazebag of the new century. What can WE THE PEOPLE do about this?

 

JOEKING

3:59 AM ET

September 7, 2011

Obama can never be Ike!

Reducing the defense budget in U.S is undoubtedly, a constructive step towards saving the trillions of dollars that are being spent overseas fighting the wars of other nations for them. In the recent times, no American president has chosen to emulate Eisenhower, the former U.S. president who has successfully reduced the defense budget, contributing to peace in a natural anti inflammatories way and could courageously stand by what he truly believed in. Both George W. Bush and Obama have chosen to glamorize the wars they have led in other countries only to make their country people believe that they are saving the interests of U.S; whereas, in reality, they are only making sure that they will have a second tenure in the White House.

 

EGISTUBAGUS

9:28 AM ET

September 7, 2011

Cracks are beginning to surface

Please explain me more about :Cracks are beginning to surface in the longtime Republican consensus on defense spending. most congressional Republicans are prepared to eviscerate the national government while preserving intact a colossal defense establishment, a growing number are not. This May the GOP-controlled House of Representatives cut $9 billion from a defense appropriations bill. And three of the most right-wing Republicans in the Senate signed on this year to the report of the bipartisan "Gang of Six," which recommended defense cuts of close to a $1 trillion over the next decade. One of those three, Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, has made a detailed case for those cuts that includes significant reductions in weapons procurement and personnel?. gedehumidifier, lgdehumidifier, santafedehumidifier soleusdehumidifier, / soleusdehumidifier, /rubbermaidtrashcans, simplehumantrashcan, simplehumantrashcan/ boschcoffeemaker, topratedcoffeemakers,

 

THOMASENA142

11:08 PM ET

September 9, 2011

Can Obama Be Just Like Ike?

If you want to cut the defense budget, ask a Republican (just not these Republicans). Obama is most like the following modern POTUS: Jimmy Carter. Same energy plan. Same Economic plan. Same anti-semitism. Same Socialism. Same Anti-military. Same lame foriegn policy. Same pro-islamo-facists. Same pro-welfare and benefits. Same pro-union. However, he does resemble Bill Clinton in his ability to 'spin' and 'lie' and be a bold face hypocrit, as well as violate the Constitution. When Am articles Please explain me more about :Cracks are beginning to surface in the longtime Republican consensus on defense spending. most congressional Republicans are prepared to eviscerate the national government while preserving intact a colossal defense establishment, a growing number are not. This May the GOP-controlled House of Representatives cut $9 billion from a defense appropriations bill. And three.

 

STEPHANY141

12:24 PM ET

September 11, 2011

Obama or Ike

We out spend China three times over. At this rate a group of third world taliban renegades will bankrupt the strongest nation in the world. Another huge expense no one wants to talk about much less tackle is the huge disabled veteran problem gume. In a recent NY Times article , they explain that the growing problem of disabiliy claims from the middle east wars will soon approach those of social security gume. Reducing the defense budget in U.S is undoubtedly, a constructive step towards saving the trillions of dollars that are being spent overseas fighting the wars of other nations for them. In the recent times, no American president has chosen to emulate Eisenhower, the former U.S. president who has successfully reduced the defense budget, contributing to peace in a natural anti inflammatories way and could courageously stand by what he truly believed in.