Don't Call It a Comeback

Four reasons why Libya doesn't equal success for NATO.

BY KURT VOLKER | AUGUST 23, 2011

One can only cheer at what now seems to be the removal of Muammar al-Qaddafi from power, at the hands of his own long-abused people. And one must commend the NATO special forces and air power -- particularly from Britain, France, and the United States -- which helped bring about this outcome.

As a young diplomat, I spent Christmas 1988 sleeping in a makeshift office in a high school chemistry lab in Lockerbie, Scotland, as we worked around the clock to help police identify the remains of the nearly 200 Americans killed on Pan Am Flight 103. I was aware of the brutality of Qaddafi's regime at home and saw firsthand his willingness to use terrorism abroad. Thus, despite Qaddafi's temporary thaw with the West during George W. Bush's administration, I was not particularly surprised by his callous and brutal determination to stand in the way of the revolutionary moment sweeping the Middle East -- the best hope for millions of Arabs in a generation.

I was appalled when Scottish authorities released the Lockerbie bomber, Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, from prison in 2009. And I took personal satisfaction in seeing the images from Tripoli during the past couple of days, as Qaddafi's regime seemed to finally be coming to an end.

But take it from a die-hard Atlanticist: Despite this good outcome, it would be a mistake to chalk this up as a success for NATO. Indeed, it is more accurate to say it is a success despite deep-rooted problems that still remain unaddressed within the alliance.

The problems began with the definition of the mission itself and have extended right through NATO's leadership, execution, and that most tenuous of all assets, solidarity. NATO must be careful to avoid a round of self-congratulatory back-slapping right now; it needs to tackle all these problems systematically if it is to remain a credible military alliance for the future.

The mission problem: NATO defined its mission in Libya as protecting civilians and humanitarian relief. But even the most casual observer concluded (as I did five months ago) that there was no way to protect civilians so long as Qaddafi remained in power. And though NATO did strike some central command installations in the heart of Tripoli, killing some members of the Qaddafi family, the alliance had explicitly ruled out "regime change" as a goal -- so for several months, there was a distressing lack of seriousness of military purpose.

This changed in recent weeks as Britain, France, and Italy (with U.S. support) put special forces advisors on the ground, provided equipment, established tactical communications and intelligence cooperation with the rebel forces, and coordinated NATO air attacks with rebel advances. But these decisive efforts took place despite the official NATO mission, not because of it. And as long as it worked, more squeamish allies could look the other way.

So why did NATO adopt a halfway mission in the first place? Because NATO can only make decisions by consensus, and Germany and Turkey, among others, opposed a more robust mission. The U.N. Security Council only authorized protection of civilians, and these allies wanted NATO to go no further than what the council had approved. Germany, for its part, actually removed four of its warships from the Mediterranean, lest they were somehow to get embroiled in the fight.

During Bill Clinton's administration, I worked on NATO's 1999 Strategic Concept, in which the United States fought hard to avoid linking NATO military action to explicit U.N. authorization. But in 2011, this linkage was made in practice -- in effect allowing Russia and China to use the U.N. Security Council to set the limits on NATO action in Libya.

Beyond the U.N. issue, however, lies a deeper problem -- the discomfort many European allies have with the exercise of military force. Robert Kagan wrote extensively about this postmodern idealism in Of Paradise and Power. European military establishments, he wrote, are from Venus. They are extolled for such things as "protecting civilians," "peacekeeping," "delivering humanitarian relief," and "providing stability." But what about Mars -- actually using the military for its principal purpose: defeating an opponent by overwhelming force? That is unpalatable for many European allies. Yet without it, what does it mean to have a military alliance?

The leadership problem: Compounding the confusion from the muddled mission was a confusing message about alliance leadership. After playing a major role in the initial wave of airstrikes, the United States abruptly pulled back from the mission, saying -- in the words of President Barack Obama -- that Washington was "handing over to NATO" the operational lead.

To be sure, this washing of hands was due to domestic political considerations, including public fatigue with two other wars, Tea Party anger at an out-of-control Washington, and massive budget pressures. But the United States has long been the leader of NATO, so speaking of the alliance as if America is not in it -- as a "them" -- felt particularly jarring. It sent a confusing message back in Washington, because despite this declaration, the United States continued to put airmen and sailors in harm's way by providing substantial noncombat support as part of the NATO operation. Why put American men and women at risk if the United States was not seeking a strategic outcome and if Europeans were supposed to be doing the work, not Americans?

Ironically, the tendency to think of NATO as "them" has long been the pattern in Europe, where NATO is often synonymous with "the Americans." So when both the United States and Europe think of NATO as "them," who exactly takes ownership of the alliance? Instead of bowing to this trend, both sides of the Atlantic need to reaffirm their own responsibility for NATO if it is to mean anything in the future.

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Kurt Volker is a former U.S. ambassador to NATO. He is now managing director, international, for BGR Group as well as senior fellow and managing director of the Center for Transatlantic Relations at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies.

CHARLES NORRIE

1:16 PM ET

August 23, 2011

One of your readers may be appalled

But Mr Magrahi and no one inb Libya bombed Pan Am 103

 

ALMABOSS

6:07 PM ET

August 23, 2011

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Exact casualty and injury numbers in the capital are difficult to ascertain, but The Post’s Thomas Erdbrink reports that a doctor in a small Tripoli clinic said 60 to 70 people wounded by gunshots had been brought in since the battle had begun.

Mohammad Hamza, a doctor, said eight of the injured had been critical, and four people died. “We are a small clinic. We don’t have the means to deal with all these casualties. But we had been expecting this fight. We had stocked up on medicine.”

Adil, 42, had joined the clinic as a volunteer. His wife is delivering a baby. “I will name my son after the prime minister of the TNC. My wife has lots of stress but the baby will be born.”

TNC is the Transitional National Council, Libya’s interim anti-Gaddafi government.

11:10 a.m. Libyan rebels breach compound

Rebel fighters react after entering in Moammar Gadhafi's compound in Tripoli in this image taken from TV on Tuesday Aug. 23, 2011. (AP) Hundreds of Libyan rebels have entered and taken full control of Gaddafi’s Bab Al-Aziziya compound. Pro-Gaddafi forces initially tried to defend the compound but have now ended their resistance.

Al-Jazeera reports that NATO used airstrikes to knock out one of the compound's walls.

Libyan rebels were seen firing into the air inside the compound in celebrations that soon spread across Tripoli. Some rebels in the compound streamed out into the streets yelling “God is great.” Rebel TV reports that rebels have hoisted their flag over Gaddafi's home in the compound. The station played the song: “Tripoli, I love you. I am madly in love with you... Tripoli do not fear. Hopefully, victory is near.”

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Rebels say they are now going “room to room” to hunt for Gaddafi family members or supporters. The compound has an extensive underground tunnel system and bunker in which it is believed Gaddafi could be hiding.

Al-Jazeera has sent a reporter inside the compound with the rebels and is doing a live shot from there. Watch it on al-Jazeera Arabic.

10:30 a.m. Gaddafi tells Russian official he is in Tripoli

Reuters reports that a Russian official says he spoke to Gaddafi by phone, and quotes him as saying he is in Tripoli and “will fight to the end.”

According to the Associated Press, the Russian official is Kirsan Ilyumzhinov, president of the international chess federation. Ilyumzhinov was photographed playing chess with Gaddafi in Libya in June:

Ilyumzhinov said in an interview with the Interfax news agency that Gaddafi’s son Muhammad called him Tuesday afternoon and then gave the phone to his father.

Gaddafi reportedly told Ilyumzhinov: “I am alive and healthy, I am in Tripoli and do not intend to leave Libya. Do not believe the lying reports by Western television companies.”

10:00 a.m. Libya war cost U.S. $896 million so far

The Post’s Jason Ukman reports that the U.S. involvement in the war in Libya has cost American taxpayers an estimated $896 million through July 31, according to the Pentagon.

“Whether that makes the mission a huge drain on the budget in tough fiscal times or a relatively cheap price to pay to protect Libyan civilians depends on your point of view,” Ukman writes.

Ukman points out that the cost looks like “chump change,” however, when compared to the $1.3 trillion that’s been appropriated so far for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

9:30 a.m. Fighting intensifies at Gaddafi compound, across Tripoli

Fighting between Gaddafi forces and the rebels appeared to intensify, as raw video came in from outside the compound:

Libyan witness and rebel supporter Trables Voice tweeted: “A rocket from Bab al-Aziz passed by the 1st floor and exploded in Bab Ben Ghashier. I wish that no body injured,” and shared this photo:

In the Rixos Hotel, CNN’s Matthew Chance reported that as he was huddled in the basement of the hotel, he could hear “incoming artillery fire in area around [the] Gaddafi compound.”

There are also battles raging across Tripoli. “It is a street-to-street fight in the city,” CNN’s Sara Sidner reports.

A mapmaker in New York has tried to map out the ever-changing battle ground in Tripoli by aggregating incoming reports. The Google Map shows the neighborhoods in which Gaddafi or rebel forces are in control and has links to sources, videos and photos. Below is an image of the map. To see the interactive, changing version go to the Google Map.

(Image via Google)

9:00 a.m. NATO says it will continue Libya operations

NATO ambassadors will meet at NATO headquarters in Brussels to discuss the way forward in Libya and look at “options for a possible NATO role” once the conflict is over, Oana Lungescu, a NATO spokeswoman announced at a press conference Tuesday.

Lungescu said there would be no troops on the ground and that any role would be a supporting one, and “upon request” from the new Libyan government.

NATO Col. Roland Lavoire said that in Tripoli, the “tension is far from over. ... The situation is very dynamic and complex.”

Lavoire declined to say whether NATO was bombing Gaddafi’s compound but said “We will take out and strike a target if it posed a threat against the civilian population.”

Asked where he thought Gaddafi might be, Lavoire said, “If you know, let me know. I don’t have a clue.”

8:20 a.m. New distrust for rebel claims

The surprise appearance of Gaddafi’s son Saif al-Islam, who rebel forces had said was captured, spurred questions about the credibility of other rebel claims.

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Saif’s older brother Mohammed Gaddafi, who the rebels had also reported captured, broke free of house arrest last night, according to the Telegraph.

Rebel claims that they had captured Gaddafi’s presidential guard also appear not to be true.

One rebel spokesman told the BBC that he heard that Gaddafi loyalists were on drugs.

”We are getting a lot of reports that a lot of them are taking different kinds of drugs,” said Hany Soufrakis, calling the drugs “hallucinogenic.”

The Lede blog points out the similarity between this statement and a statement by Gaddafi during a televised address early on in the uprising. The rebels “are putting drugs in their coffee with milk, like Nescafé,” he had said.

A YouTube video was also posted that claimed to show rebels next to an Afriqiyah plane at Tripoli International Airport. The rebels claim the plane belongs to Gaddafi:

7:40 a.m. Compound under attack

Smoke rises over buildings in Gaddafi’s compound Tuesday, Aug. 23, 2011. (Sergey Ponomarev - AP) Gaddafi’s Bab al-Aziziya compound is under attack, a rebel spokesman for opposition fighters in Tripoli told CNN. Rebels reportedly had surrounded the area and managed to enter one of the gates. Plumes of smoke that were seen rising near the compound supported the rebel claims, although an al-Jazeera correspondent in Tripoli said rebels were still 500 meters away from the gates. The Guardian's Luke Harding described clashes near the compound as “an almighty fight.”

Bab al-Aziziya compound is one of a number of locations where Gaddafi himself may be hiding. Reports came in on Twitter:

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NATO confirmed it has aircraft deployed over the capital but cannot confirm it bombed the compound, al-Jazeera reported.

NATO spokesperson Oana Lungescu said: “it is the final chapter, the end is near and events are moving fast what is clear is Gaddafi is history. The Libyan people should be spared.”

NATO air operations also continued in Tripoli and across Libya to protect civilians in pro-Gaddafi areas.

7:20 a.m. Gaddafi loyalists strike back in Tripoli

Volunteers loyal to Libya's Moammar Gaddafi chant slogans after Gaddafi's son Seif al-Islam spoke to them in Tripoli, Libya, Tuesday, Aug. 23, 2011. (Dario Lopez-Mills - AP) The battle for Tripoli seemed near its conclusion Monday before forces loyal to Gaddafi struck back, forcing the rebel forces to retreat from strategic locations. Gaddafi’s whereabouts remained unknown. A further blow to the rebel groups was the appearance of Gaddafi’s son Saif al-Islam at the Rixos Hotel. He had previously been reported as one of three Gaddafi sons arrested. A defiant Saif told cheering supporters: “To hell with the ICC,” referring to the International Criminal Court, which has issued a warrant for his arrest. “We assure the people that things are fine in Libya.”

Watch video of his dramatic reappearance below:

The ICC has said it never received official confirmation from the Libyan rebels' council that Saif had been captured.

As the security situation deteriorated at Tripoli’s port, a boat that was scheduled to arrive in the capital Tuesday to rescue fleeing foreign nationals was delayed out of security concerns.

By Elizabeth Flock | 01:26 PM ET, 08/23/2011

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CHARLESF

7:08 PM ET

August 23, 2011

My take

Sadly, I have to agree with this glum assessment. NATO unity and solidarity went right out of the window.

I'm quite chagrined by my own country's ignoble role here. Not a proud moment for German foreign policy. Passivity, prejudices against military internation, legalese and plain ole isolationist instincts marred Merkel, Westerwelle & Co's judgement, leaving Germany the odd-man-out in the European UK-France-Germany triangle.

Obviously it'd be wrong to give up on NATO in view of the shortcomings we've witnessed. One simply has to redouble efforts to forge a more united and resolute NATO.

In my view, the key is European unification. We need the European pillar of the alliance to feature a common foreign and security policy. And that can only happen, if those powers reside in Brussels.

For NATO to truly meet its promise, it needs to largely consist of two superpower building-blocs. The US and the EU.

Otherwise we'll continue to be plagued by splits weakening the alliance's resolve. And we need the synergies of having one EU military budget, as we quite rightly do not want to spend more on defence.

I can only hope that the United States will help encourage us Europeans to redouble our European integration efforts. It's good for Europe, NATO and for the US.

The "European dream" is also NATO's future blueprint. The West needs a stronger and more united Europe in our rapidly changing world.

 

FORLORNEHOPE

4:51 AM ET

August 24, 2011

Entente Cordiale

There are only two European nations that are ever going to be up for a fight. On this occasion both the French and British were willing to put their forces into action. If those two are onside there will be a "European" force, if not there won't be, the other European nations are pretty much irrelevant.

 

FRENCHCONNECTION

10:09 AM ET

August 24, 2011

the EU isn't a federal state

and not even a confederation. Besides it is not synonym with NATO.

So you go to war with what you have. The problem is political more than military. Imagine that the US was at its "federal" level 200 years ago, when you had to ask permission from a Governor to use the State militia. Well it's not THAT bad in the EU now, but there are basic similarities.

It is true that Europe could have shown more solidarity. The big loser in that story is Germany. Interestingly enough the Merkel/Westerwelle stand in the Libyan story showed to be a major clusterf*ck which has no overwhelming support in the population and the opposition. Lessons have been taught in this case, and it's not likely Germany repeats the mistake.

The other negative point is the lack of active support in the former Warsaw pact countries. But this has more to do with a little military capacity and a misguided belief in that it is the US who will solve their defense problems and not the EU. A big culprit in this is the neocon propaganda a decade ago. Remember "Old Europe"....

The positive point is the Scandinavian countries both politically and militarily.

But a lot of the blame can be put on the US themselves even if the Obama doctrine seems to have been paying. What the US is paying for is :

- years of dismissal of Europeans as "weak", used as suppletives with no voice and threatened with being "either with us or against us". And when the US plagued by its demise on the international scene after the current crises, the lack of enthusiasm of some is understandable.

- the US staunch opposition to any form of independent European defense based on the imperial prerogatives. The policy of always reminding the Europeans of their dependency and at the same time blaming them for it cannot be productive. It's like telling a local community "you cannot have your own fire department, we have the real one in DC and besides all 911 calls go through us and if your township burns down, it's your fault".

So with those premises lamenting that Europe with a little US refueling and SIGINT screwed up Gadaffi with its Rafales, Tornados and single carrier without losing a single man or plane and with basically no collateral damage, should be seen as an astounding feat. Then that it could be better, we can all agree upon.

 

ZORRO

11:11 AM ET

August 24, 2011

The Purpose of an Alliance

"But what about Mars -- actually using the military for its principal purpose: defeating an opponent by overwhelming force? That is unpalatable for many European allies. Yet without it, what does it mean to have a military alliance?"

It means to join together to protect against an exterior existential threat (the USSR). If you have "overwhelming force" you are most likely someone else's existential threat and why would you want to be that? Insanity? Delusion? Jingoism? Probably all of the above.

 

STANSLOAN

2:57 PM ET

August 24, 2011

The realities of this alliance

NATO is an alliance of sovereign nations. This is one of its strengths as well as one of its weaknesses. In my opinion, the Libya case is much more of a comment on the limits on future European integration than on the ability of NATO to continue functioning. The EU was unable to produce either common positions or actions in the Libya case, whereas NATO was, in spite of differences among the allies.

I was hopeful in the 1980s (when I wrote my first book on NATO) that the process of European integration would help produce a stronger sense of European responsibility for security policy. That has not happened, and it seems unlikely to happen. I see no sign that European nations are willing to give up sovereign control over war and peace decisions. This would come only at the last stage of formation of the EU as a sovereign, unitary national actor, and we will not see that for the foreseeable future, if ever.

This suggests that we will continue to be unhappy with the imperfections of the alliance and will continue to try to improve its functioning, but that we will also continue to see the alliance as better than any other option for the security of the United States, Canada and the European allies.

 

JAMYBROWN

4:31 PM ET

August 24, 2011

This is a come back.

This is a come back. Every thing has returned and Momentum shifted quickly, however, and the rebels faced the possibilty of being outgunned and outnumbered in what increasingly looked like a mismatched civil war. Then as Colonel Qaddafi’s troops advanced to within 100 miles of Benghazi, the rebel stronghold in the west, the United Nations Security Council voted to authorize military action, a risky foreign intervention aimed at averting a bloody rout of the rebels by loyalist forces.we have been doing business text marketing in many regions. On March 19, American and European forces began a broad campaign of strikes against Colonel Qaddafi and his government, unleashing warplanes and missiles in a military intervention on a scale not seen in the Arab world since the Iraq war.By late May, the weeks of NATO bombing seemed to put the momentum back on the side of the rebels, who broke a bloody siege of the western city of Misurata. By August they were also making territorial gains in the country's east and west. Colonel Qaddafi rejected calls to leave power, defying defections by subordinates, increased economic and political isolation and NATO air assaults. The rebels themselves suffered from internal dissension and lack of training.

 

POLY HART

4:57 PM ET

August 24, 2011

Alliance must remain till Rise of new Libya

The problems began with the people like Colonel Qaddafi they become god on earth and thinking that no one can move them from what they are.
Now NATO have to help peoples with the problem of there not doing bombing.
it will district the all moment and break the momentum of those peoples who are fighting for there freedom.

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GARRYBARRY

12:52 AM ET

September 18, 2011

Not so sure

An interesting topic and article for us to discuss and debate. Splendid points made above about Four reasons why Libya doesn't equal success for NATO. I agree with many of these, the British and French have been at the fore-front, but why couldn't other EU countries muck in?. I appreciate you taking time to write this article. It's really good reading and learning new things on sudjects I wouldn't normally read about and seeing other peoples views on these critical matters. I recommend everyone in the mp3 and dj work association read them too. Best, Garrys.

 

EGISTUBAGUS

8:53 AM ET

September 19, 2011

one must commend the NATO special forces and air power

One can only cheer at what now seems to be the removal of Muammar al-Qaddafi from power, at the hands of his own long-abused people. And one must commend the NATO special forces and air power -- particularly from Britain, France, and the United States -- which helped bring about this outcome.(gliderforbaby, glidersfornursery, littlecastlegliders, beststeamiron, electricteapot, biometricsafe , nurserychairs, glidersfornurserygedehumidifier, lgdehumidifier, mielecoffeemaker, vikingcoffeemaker

 

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8:55 AM ET

September 19, 2011

The problems began with the definition of the mission itself

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