The unfortunate reality is that USA always needs a whipping post specially for its domestic audience. Before Osama's death it was Al-Qaeda and now it is ISI. Your wife is sleeping with your neighbour....blame it on ISI, you slip in the bathroom .......blame it on ISI, your daughter is a lesbian ............BINGO ......ISI. About time you get real and think again before you sink into another mess....

Let us see if US under Obama administration has really run out of patience with Pakistani government’s duplicity or is this just a temporary temper tantrum by US.

Heaven knows US soldiers are dying in Afghanistan because of Pakistani duplicity that goes back to when Bush administration decided to allow Musharraf to spirit away by airlift hundreds, if not thousands, of Taliban operatives cornered by the advancing Northern Alliance in Kunduz in November, 2001. Pakistan relocated those Taliban cadres including Mullah Mohammed Omar in Quetta, the provincial capital of Baluchistan (now relocated to Karachi by Pakistani ISI to protect them from possible US drone attacks) and Haqqani network (HQN) in North Waziristan from where Mullah Omar’s QST and Haqqani’s HQN have been planning raids in Afghanistan ever since.

U. S. has deliberately deluded itself about Afghan Taliban’s Pakistani connections in fueling and sustaining Afghan insurgency as reported by Matt Waldman in ‘The sun in the sky‘ on 6/13/2010, corroborated by WikiLeaks leaks on 7/25/2010 and then further corroborated by Chris Alexander, Canadian ambassador to Afghanistan from 2003 to 2005 and Deputy Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General for Afghanistan from 2005 until 2009 in his article on 7/30/2010 titled ‘The huge scale of Pakistan‘s complicity‘.

Duplicitous Pakistan has U. S. under the barrel of a gun - US can NOT use its aid leverage to force Pakistan to stop supporting terrorist groups who kill US/NATO troops in Afghanistan day in and day out because US needs Pakistan’s help in ferrying supplies to those very US/NATO troops.

Previous US ambassador Anne Patterson to Pakistan, wrote in a secret review in 2009 that ‘Pakistan's Army and ISI are covertly sponsoring four militant groups - Haqqani‘s HQN, Mullah Omar‘s QST, Al Qaeda and LeT - and will not abandon them for any amount of US money‘, as diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks show.

Ambassador Patterson had NO reason to mislead her own State Department and U. S. government.

Adm Mullen had following to say about America’s primary ally in its fight against terrorism, to the foreign news media on 1/13/2011: “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, it [Pakistan] is the epicenter of terrorism in the world right now. It is absolutely critical that the safe havens in Pakistan get shut down. We cannot succeed in Afghanistan without that. It’s not just Haqqani Network anymore, or Al Qaeda or TTP (Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan), the Afghan Taliban, or LeT (Lashkar-e-Tayyeba), it’s all of them working together.”

Following are verbatim quotes from what Gen (rtd) Jack Keane said at a discussion on Afghanistan organized by the Institute for the Study of War, a Washington-based think-tank on June 30, 2011:

1. "The truth is, the ISI aids and abets the sanctuaries in Pakistan that the Afghan (Taliban) operate out of. They provide training for them, they provide resources for them and they provide intelligence for them. From those sanctuaries, every single day Afghan fighters come into Afghanistan and kill and maim us".
2. "There's a direct relationship of ISI's complicity and the deaths of American soldiers and the catastrophic wounding of those soldiers. The chief of staff of the Pakistani military is complicit. He used to be the director of ISI. He put the guy in there who is in charge now and he has full knowledge of what I'm just describing".
3. "There are two ammonium nitrate factories in Pakistan. 80 per cent of the explosive devices that are used to kill our soldiers, kill Afghan security forces and kill Afghan people come from Pakistan."
4. "All of what I just said to you, when we confront them with this, they lie to us.

With Pakistani Army headed by General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani, who once headed ISI, repeatedly lying to the United States, America‘s Afghan mission was doomed from the very beginning.

For deliberately ignoring Taliban’s Pakistani connections, US deserves to be duped by Pakistan.

How long can US tolerate such Pakistani duplicity?

Take out the nukes of the Pakistanis, dismember the Islamic polities in Af-Pak into ethno-linguistic based fragmentary states, that is the right thing to do and the only long term solution. Enforce UN mandated population transfers along ethnic and sectarian / religious lines.

Afghanistan:
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Cede Tajik areas to Tajikistan.
Cede Uzbek areas to Uzbekistan.
Split off Hazaras / Aimaqs in their respective states.

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Pathans (southern Afghanistan + FATA + KP except Chitral) in Af-Pak into Pashtunistan
Balochs in Af-Pak into a redrawn Balochistan

Pakistan
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Sindhis into Sindhudesh
Punjabis into West Punjab (optional breaking up for Seraikis)

Pakistan occupied ex-J&K:
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Chitral (now part of KP) & Gilgit-Baltistan into their own state (Karakorum)
AJK join with Indian controlled Kashmir (and ask India to split Kashmir Valley + AJK / Neelum Valley into province of Kashmir - give them option for plebiscite for independence, split Jammu and Ladakh off ex-J&K into smaller states under the Republic of India).

The real Rulers of Pakistan, the Army and ISI were always very clear and focused what they were fighting for.

If the utterly wise, able and wealthy Americans thought that Pakistan was fighting its war to end terrorism, they have been fooled and deceived completely.

Pakistani Army have been fighting wars for Islam and Expansions. They have attacked India four times for these reasons only.

American poured billions of dollars, so they created illusions and gave impressions of be on the their side.

It is another matter that when you breed viper to let loose in the neighbor's house, vipers starts to bite and kill the breeders too.

Some of the terror groups turned rouge and more Islamist than was desired/expected and they started to disobey Pakistani army.

So when Khalid Mohammad Shaikh, who was holed up and protected by the serving deputy mayor of Islamabad, killed Daniel Peal and started boasting about, he being the master planner of 9/11 and not Osama Bin Laden, he was immediately betrayed and handed over to Americans.

Americans did come to know of the double game but having no other option played along, but there has to be a limit and perhaps that was crossed when Bin Laden was found and killed in Abbotabad.

American had a defining role in waging a jihad to fight Russians in Afghanistan and which was already underway and being taught and promoted in Al Azhar University of Cairo and elsewhere too, though feebly at that time.

The Jihad was promoted and taught to small school kids in Pakistan from time of Gen Zia Ul Haq and got exploded with war in Afghanistan.

For Pakistan, the Jihad started for annexing Kashmir and Colonizing Afghanistan has traveled back to its own main promoter with long term deadly consequences.

Civilian cardboard Rulers of Pakistan have no role and power in the game they are scapegoat and are being propped up and tolerated by the canny army.

The new hero of Pakistan, the playboy turned puritan Islamist Imran Khan never said a world about the real issues and only blamed the outsiders for the deep mess.

Carrot and Stick never work with terror promoting army thugs and mad Jihadis ready to take and give life.

American may remain or go out of the region they must focus how they can stop a probable nuclear 9/11 happening, originating from Pakistani soil perhaps using radicalized American citizen eager to meet 72 nubile nymphs in heaven and other alluring inducements of the lofty afterlife promised to teeming army of suicide bombers.

Yea, U. S. has deliberately deluded itself about Afghan Taliban’s Pakistani connections in fueling and sustaining Afghan insurgency as reported by Matt Waldman in ‘The sun in the sky‘ on 6/13/2010...
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No war can be won if the wrong target is chosen to fight. The Americans had a lot of money and resources and they allied with the villain in fighting a shadow. After draining all the money and wasting away time, they now are realizing that they could have gone after the real villain after all. They knew they were being cheated by Pakistan's military and its ISI all along. They knew this cartel is the main villain - not the Arabs, not the Taliban and not even the Al Qaeda. These organizations are mere stems sprouting out at various places, giving the appearance of poisonous trees. The real poison has always been in the root, which had cleverly hid itself underground and the Americans have been faithfully pouring water to it and giving it all the nourishment and care. Now that root has become stronger and almost indestructible. And the Americans are fatigued trying to chop off the branches, leaves and stems of the shoots that have sprouted in various places. If America withdraws in a haste, they should remember this - they might have the watch, but time is in the hands of the real villain. They will become bolder by the "defeat" of yet another super power. And they will spread their tentacles farther and wider with more offshoots that will spread into the shores of a broke America and Europe, wreaking havoc and chaos. There is no way peace will return to Afghanistan or even the cozy lands of America and Europe. A weakened economy is perfect setting for a strike that cannot be stopped. And retaliation would be impossible. If the US wants peace, it has to go to war with the real villain - the hosts of Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. Time is running out.

Coup time in Pakistan? Unilateral US airstrikes in Waziristan?

With all this tension going on, something's got to give. The Pakistanis need to cooperate. Putting roadblocks in the way of the fight again the fundamentalists and terrorists is not going to help Pakistan's cause. They already lost the gold opportunity of handing over OBL; they need to be straightforward with respect to the Haqqani network - come out clean and help wipe off the evil of terrorism from its soil.

The Pakistanis will only benefit from the cooperation and strategic goodwill extended to the US. The numb nuts running Pakistan need to watch it!

When are we going to stop yelling and blabbering ? people are dying here and you people are just trying to be a critic? Come on people ! grow up and raise your bar !!
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I wonder why it took a decade to "take off the gloves". In twenty years' time maybe we can see some new policies for a change? Then withdrawal in 2050 perhaps?

Can we cancel US aid to pakistan and give it to israel? Im sure our congress has already thought of this great idea!

It has been wishful thinking on behalf of someone like Ahson Hasan to say that Pakistan should give up its links with Haqqani network. Listen , the Haqqanis are the most organized groups in Afghanistan and in the possible post-US Afghanistan only chaous will rule and only the most organized can unite and bring order to the chaous. I do believe it is sensible on the part of Pakistanis to have their ties with the most organized and disciplined group the Haqqanis (as well as the Taliban leadership) in keeping mind the chaotic nature of post-America Afghanistan.

Dear CNIRU , the real situation is not that easy to provide a Bangladesh-like situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
1. There are plenty of Baluchi or Sindhi people who still consider themselves as Muslims first , Pakistanis second and everything else later.
2. There is a proverb saying those living in glass houses should not throw stones. Remember there are plenty of opposition to oppression in Indian controlled Kashmir , North-Eastern Indian states (Nagaland , Manipur and Assam for example) or even Maoists (central India for example) and remember ISI has still left with very good organizational capabilties to wreck havoc in India by combining these insurgencies toghether.
3. There are plenty of opposition to the Union in the USA in places like Texas , Arizona , Virginia or Georgia against federal control from Washington DC. Remember these states have been kept in permanent military occupation since the end of American civil war by the Ameican north. ISI may think about doing something there in future if the elites in Washington and New Delhi thinks about repeating Bangladesh in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

DEBANJAN,

"ISI may think about doing something there in future if the elites in Washington and New Delhi thinks about repeating Bangladesh in Afghanistan and Pakistan."

You sound, as if ISI thugs will rule the world, one day.

Thugs and Criminals will do what they are good at, crimes and killings.

They must be dealt with in the right way.

A rare one, but I'll give it freely. Nice to see some cajones being displayed, and we're not "engaging" the leadership of Pakistan. Billions of dollars buys leverage, so let's use it, and pull it back if we don't get what we want. Realpolitik, muthaf****.

Realistically, Afghanistan and Pakistan are flyover territory for much of the world and certainly for us. Let the Chinese dream of pearls and pipelines and deal with that morass. We have better prospects with India as an ally than the lunacy of central Asia. (Frankly, India should be our #1 priority in terms of relationship growth.)

U.S. pressure is increasing but how does this affect our priorities in ending the Wars? Or are they mutually exclusive?

Seeing as how the American leadership has opted to withdraw our country from membership in Western society, and acknowledging the citizen's duty to lend assistance to democratically derived authority, I propose that we continue to intervene more and more frequently into more and more exotic locales as identified by Isreal, while at the same time continuing to engorge ourselves on the racial sewage emanating from Central and South America. In that way we might reduce our death throes to just, say, twenty or thirty years!

Remember there are plenty of opposition to oppression in Indian controlled Kashmir , North-Eastern Indian states (Nagaland , Manipur and Assam for example) or even Maoists (central India for example) and remember ISI has still left with very good organizational capabilties to wreck havoc in India by combining these insurgencies toghether.

Coup time in Pakistan? Unilateral US airstrikes in Waziristan?

With all this tension going on, something's got to give. The Pakistanis need to cooperate. Putting roadblocks in the way of the fight again the fundamentalists and terrorists is not going to help Pakistan's cause. They already lost the gold opportunity of handing over OBL; they need to be straightforward with respect to the Haqqani network - come out clean and help hebergeur d'image wipe off the evil of terrorism from its soil.

The Pakistanis will only benefit from the cooperation and strategic goodwill extended to the US. The numb nuts running Pakistan need to watch it!

"NATO force levels in Afghanistan are at their zenith, so if there is ever going to be a time for credible threats to expand the conflict into the Pakistani tribal areas where the Haqqani network is headquartered, it is now."

The author is actually calling for expansion of the war into Pakistan - a nuclear armed nation that we have supported and armed for decades. Has Congress authorized such an expansion of our war in Afghanistan? Has the President and his administration made any attempt to explain the reason for such an adventure, or its long term costs? By what Constitutionally-based arguments do we justify the expansion, let alone the continuation of the conflict in Afghanistan, after the death of Bin Laden and many of al Qaeda's top leaders?

If we simply declare victory and withdraw, we do not have to worry about Pakistan's duplicity, we do not have to continue to send hundreds of billions of dollars to the Pakistani military , we do not have to worry about land supply routes for our troops who will have left, we do not have to worry about the criminal binLaden sheltering ISI, and we do not have to take any responsibility when Afghanistan drowns in its own corruption.

Al Qaeda has already opened new fronts in Yemen, Somalia, etc. They can be dealt with using far less military force than we have in Afghanistan. Since they are stateless, there should never have been any need to invade and occupy either Afghanistan or Iraq, at least to the extent we have over ten long years. There is ample evidence that the insurgencies we faced in these two 'countries' were more of a reaction to US lead interventions and occupations than a reason for them. (There were insurgencies because we were there.)

As others have already said - it is past time to get our troops out of god-forsaken Afghanistan - let them stay where they are, in the 14th century. As for Pakistan, lets stop funding their criminal government and let them destroy their nation themselves.

Washington may not have leverage against Pakistan today. However a carefully worded statement from Washington supporting Baluchi rights the next time the Pakistani army kills Baluchi civilians will definitely get Pakistans attention.
Support for Baluchi nationalists would
-generate goodwill from a relatively secular movement that has so far shown no interest in Islamic radicalism and desires greater autonomy.
-weaken Pakistani access to the natural resources of Baluchistan
-weaken Chinese access to Gwadar and the Persian gulf
-weaken Iran by indirectly supporting Jundallah
and weakening Pakistani influence in Baluchistan would open alternative safer routes to Afghanistan

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It is really unfortunate that your perspective on isi and pak army , is profoundly coloured by the propaganda spawned by indian hawks on pakistan. why , sir, are you so biased against these entities. if you throw off the glasses of indian propaganda through which you happen to view them, you will come to know that the ISI and pak army are doing a commendable job in keeping the balance of power in south asia on an even keel.

ISI mainly responds to the threats and acts of terrorism perpetrated in pakistan by raw. IT is widely known in all knowledgeable circles that raw has been supporting and backing baloch insurgents and anti pakistan pakhtun groups since 2001 when indians landed in afghanistan, on the invitation of usa.

india has incrementally set up 29 consulates along the durand line. would you please tell me what the heck are they doing there. surely, your indianness, would know that they are training baloch insurgents and anti pakistan pakhtuns there. without an iota of doubt , the usa is hand in glove with india in this filthy buisness. it was the usa which invited indians to come to afghanistan in the first place and surely certain nefarious motives impelled the usa to do that.

on the one hand you accuse pakistan of duplicity but on the other hand you gloss over the duplicitous behaviour of indians and americans.

one thing is very clear, us in cahoots with india are making frantic efforts to destroy pakistan. against such a backdrop , is not pakistan justified in making alliances with the taliban and pakhtun militant groups. if pakistan fails to court talibans , the indians and americans will.

better bleed occupational forces through alliances with the taliban than getting bled at the hands of occupational forces.

dear dr. kukhbhi,

there is irrefutable evidence that there are 29 indian consulates along the durand line. indians admit officially that there are four indian consulates operating in afghanistan but in reality there are 29 consulates. your advising me that i shouldnot pay heed to what isi and pak army say is tantamount to the pot calling the kettle black. you indians always see the world through the eyes of indian agencies and government.

indians massacred indian muslims in gujrat and your politicians and agencies blamed pakistan for this violence. your army and agencies are killing muslims in kashmir by the thousands and you turn a blind eye to that. recently unmarked graves of indian muslims killed by indian security forces have been discovered.

you rant like madmen when it comes to what isi and pak army do in afghnaistan but when it comes to the horrible crimes of raw and indian army you keep mum and look the other way.

after the incident of samjhota express, you indians parroted day and night that isi was behind it, oh isi was behind it. in fact you sang the praise of isi so much that i thought you would turn it into a bollywood song. now recent findings by your own agencies have enlightened the world that it was your hindoo rascals who did it.

what would you say about that , your democratic indianess.

dear dr. kuchbhi,

The Indian governement is a big liar. your government deports human rights activists like barsamian and says he violated visa restrictions last time he came to india that is why he has been deported this time around.

oh how angelic your government is , how innocent you are and how foolish i am that i am trying to talk sense ito those who dont know what it means.

U.S. has more to lose for keeping silent about Pakistan’s abetment of terrorism. U.S voicing its protest against Pakistan now after remaining an ally for decades has only confirmed the fears of breach of trust between these nations. The situation is going to get uglier for U.S whose protests against Pakistan’s support to Haqqani network remind us of the antiinflammatory foods that fight back inflammation. U.S is yet to discover what might be in store for them once they turn into an opponent like loosing aerial routes to Afghanistan and all!

The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the longstanding, seslichat even increasing support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan, and the Gulf states.

Only the withdrawal of American and NATO boots on the ground will begin to allow the process of near-frantic emotions to subside within Pakistan, and for the region sazkove kancelare to start to cool down. Pakistan is experienced in governance and is well able to deal with its own Islamists and tribalists under normal circumstances; until recently, Pakistani Islamists had one of the lowest rates of electoral success in the Muslim world.But U.S. policies have now driven sazkove kancelarelocal nationalism, xenophobia and Islamism to combined fever pitch. As Washington demands that Pakistan redeem failed American policies in Afghanistan, Islamabad can no longer manage its domestic crisis.The Pakistani army is more than capable of maintaining state power against tribal sazkove kancelare militias and to defend its own nukes. Only a convulsive nationalist revolutionary spirit could change that -- something most Pakistanis do not want. But Washington can still succeed in destabilizing Pakistan if it perpetuates its present hard-line strategies. A new chapter of military rule -- not what Pakistan needs -- will be the likely result, and even then Islamabad's sazkove kancelare basic policies will not change, except at the cosmetic level.

Washington always tempered its criticism of Pakistan for fear that pushing too hard might break the relationship in ways that would cause more harm than good. U.S. officials have always known that the major supply lines for American forces in Afghanistan run through Pakistan's ports, highways, and airspace. U.S. officials have always valued aspects of counterterrorism cooperation that take place in the shadows, away from the glare of the press and the scrutiny of the public. And they have always hoped that by engaging Pakistan's military and civilian leaders, they would gradually work toward a more effective partnership that could satisfy both American and Pakistani security requirements. Search for executive careers