Is There Light At The End of Egypt's Tunnel?

Egypt is a mess right now, but if its Army can figure out how to give up power and set elections on course, there's still hope for a happy ending.

BY JAMES TRAUB | SEPTEMBER 23, 2011

Still, come what may, there will be a civilian government on the other side. And though it may have a strong Islamic cast, it won't actually be Islamic. As the sole politically organized force in the country, the Muslim Brotherhood is likely to win a plurality of votes in the parliament, though no one has the faintest idea how large that plurality will be. Michele Dunne, who heads the Rafik Hariri Center for the Middle East at the Atlantic Council, estimates that the Brotherhood will win between 15 and 40 percent of the seats allocated to political parties -- itself an unclear fraction of the whole -- with the rest divided among a wide range of groups and blocs: members of the former ruling party, the largely secular liberals who manned Tahrir Square, Islamic reformers who split off from the Brotherhood, and the Salafists, who follow a rigidly orthodox brand of Islam. The Brotherhood, catering to fears that it could dominate the new government, is not running a candidate for president, though it certainly could furnish the new prime minister. Without a constitution, it's impossible to know what the distribution of powers between those two offices will be.

The most hopeful scenario is that Egypt will have a very rough patch to negotiate but will come out more or less OK on the other side. El Amrani says that he is much more worried about the short term than the long term -- a refrain one often hears. Democratic transitions by their very nature are rocky and demand a great deal of patience from the activists who have sacrificed to make them possible. It will be harder in Egypt than in Tunisia because its politics are more divisive; but in Egypt, as in Tunisia, millions of people have been mobilized in the name of change and will not easily allow their revolution to be stolen.

I hope that's the case. New democracies usually have a grace period of several years to prove that they can deliver the basics of a good life more effectively than the autocracies they replaced. Egypt may need that time, and more. An inexperienced and internally divided government may find itself unable to deal effectively with immense social tensions and economic problems, not to mention an overweening military. Democracies fail all the time: Look at Venezuela or Ukraine. Establishing a democracy isn't hard; preserving it is.

What can Americans do to help? Not very much, it seems. Egypt is in a deeply nationalistic phase. Last month, the country turned down a $3 billion International Monetary Fund loan, apparently in a burst of anti-Americanism. The riot that engulfed the Israeli Embassy in Cairo this month shows how popular fury, long suppressed under Mubarak, has now been unleashed. That anger will only grow if the United States is compelled to veto Palestine's bid for statehood at the U.N. Security Council. Washington was the chief ally of Mubarak, as it is of Israel. Even U.S. military aid to Egypt matters much less than it used to, as Egypt's economy and defense budget have grown. Washington will have to be patient, accepting that though the revolution may be harmful to American interests in the short run -- and certainly harmful to Israel's -- in the end it will produce a more stable and more peaceful Middle East.

MOHAMED HOSSAM/AFP/Getty Images

 SUBJECTS: EGYPT, ARAB WORLD
 

James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

2NDLOOK

5:08 AM ET

September 24, 2011

Islamic World Changing?

Does empty rage count as a reason to expose nations to unknown rulers and uncertainty? Unknown devils instead of known devils?

An overjoyed world of Twitterati, Chatterati, Bloggerati, Paparazzi went ahead and claimed credit for this ‘change’.

How bad were these ‘despots’

Indeed, a case could be made for these stable despots who have sent packing in Tunisia and Egypt.

http://goo.gl/YCSl7

 

MIJOHNSMITH

8:52 AM ET

September 24, 2011

It's inevitable moments we live

Part of what happens in Egypt is inevitable after any revolution take place but we responsible for a lot of this mess like embassy attack that it put us in very embrassing position so we can't load all of these to the military's council which is certainly slow to implement the demands of the people this is the first thing the second thing is domestic situation all the people upset by the lack of cleanliness of the streets which is shunned by the government compeletly and increasing the number of unemployment among young people these serious consequences are likely to adversely affect the community but we hold gratitude towards the because they didn't fire single shot on protesters god help Egypt to pass and go through this ordeal safely

 

MIJOHNSMITH

8:58 AM ET

September 24, 2011

 Egypt

Part of what happens in Egypt is inevitable after any revolution take place but we responsible for a lot of this mess like embassy attack that it put us in very embrassing position so we can't load all of these to the military's council which is certainly slow to implement the demands of the people this is the first thing the second thing is domestic situation all the people upset by the lack of cleanliness of the streets which is shunned by the government compeletly and increasing the number of unemployment among young people these serious consequences are likely to adversely affect the community but we hold gratitude towards the because they didn't fire single shot on protesters god help Egypt to pass and go through this ordeal safely

 

MIJOHNSMITH

8:59 AM ET

September 24, 2011

 Egypt

Part of what happens in Egypt is inevitable after any revolution take place but we responsible for a lot of this mess like embassy attack that it put us in very embrassing position so we can't load all of these to the military's council which is certainly slow to implement the demands of the people this is the first thing the second thing is domestic situation all the people upset by the lack of cleanliness of the streets which is shunned by the government compeletly and increasing the number of unemployment among young people these serious consequences are likely to adversely affect the community but we hold gratitude towards the because they didn't fire single shot on protesters god help Egypt to pass and go through this ordeal safely

 

MIJOHNSMITH

9:07 AM ET

September 24, 2011

 Egypt

Part of what happens in Egypt is inevitable after any revolution take place but we responsible for a lot of this mess like embassy attack that it put us in very embrassing position so we can't load all of these to the military's council which is certainly slow to implement the demands of the people this is the first thing the second thing is domestic situation all the people upset by the lack of cleanliness of the streets which is shunned by the government compeletly and increasing the number of unemployment among young people these serious consequences are likely to adversely affect the community but we hold gratitude towards the because they didn't fire single shot on protesters god help Egypt to pass and go through this ordeal safely

 

VISIONTUNNEL

7:03 AM ET

September 25, 2011

Let us Hope that Egypt does not become another Pakistan

Pakistan has 97% Muslim population as compared to about 90% in Egypt.

Myopic Pakistani rulers decided to went on the violent journey of self destruction by creating and promoting Terrorism as state policy to wrest control over Kashmir.

Existence of Israel does seem to inspire rabid emotions and violent ideals in Egypt, as told by the deadly attack on the Israeli embassy.

Pakistani rulers have always exploited Islam to retain and get power and by evoking Jihad to annex Kashmir. They have also managed to either evict, exterminate, convert and suppress the minorities. Having reduced them to about 3 % the Islamic fanatics have now turned their guns and bombs on the liberal sects with in Muslims.

The Egyptian Army might be unwilling to be as foolish as Pakistani army has been to promote the Islamic Fanaticism and anti Israel emotions.

What ever may be said by the so called wise western experts and others about the golden dawn of Democracy about to break in Egypt and elsewhere in the Middle East, few troubling infirmities remained to be examined and seen in near future.

Democracy is a cumbersome, terribly slow path with deeply dark valleys and lofty peaks of great problem and joys.

The absence of peaceful negotiations, give and take, sprite of accommodations, mighty concept of own value and honor prevalent tribal societies create huge impediments where violence and force, so far has been the final arbitrator for ages.

 

PUPIL

12:35 PM ET

September 26, 2011

Trumpeting Traub

Here is his clarion call:

"Washington will have to be patient, accepting that though the revolution may be harmful to American interests in the short run -- and certainly harmful to Israel's -- in the end it will produce a more stable and more peaceful Middle East."

He is definitely not alone with these sentiments. Obama, likely, holds very similar views hidden not so deeply under his official skin. Obviously, for Traub, promotion of totalitarian and racist Middle Eastern ideologies, akin to Mussolini's Fascism, and Hitler's National Socialism is more important than defending our meager national interests and preventing another genocide of Jews. If this is not a treason, what it is? And of course, blossoming Fascism and Nazism has ended up producing peaceful Europe!

And, of course, Omaha Beach was a result of Zionist plot.

 

SOFIANITZ

1:35 PM ET

September 26, 2011

something Traub left out

What James Traub neglected to point out is the SCAF is under effective control by the US Government. Given the current unsettled situation with anti-Israeli sentiment boiling over, and the Muslim Brotherhood off the reservation, Hillary and company have just given instructions to STALL, until things settle down a little (hopefully!). Don't forget it's a US client Armed Forces there in Egypt.

 

JSRYANJR

9:05 PM ET

September 26, 2011

What Revolution?

Hosni Mubarak as a war hero was handed the Vice Presidency in a military regime and then passively inherited the Presidency. He was leaving reasonably soon. His departure by itself is no more revolutionary than Sadat's or Nasser's was.

The development of civilian political parties as a representative alternative to military control of the state will be revolutionary and will take a number of years. Gamal Mubarak's much sneered-at reforms put Egypt on that course. Now those reforms are gone.

So what has been put aside is not the military government but the reform process and the entire class of leaders who could drive it forward. Maybe it can be re-built quickly, but it is not visible yet and it will take a lot of guts to step forward now, when you see the thanks the reformers of the recent past have gotten.

 

GETLIKES

7:54 AM ET

September 27, 2011

The problem is not americas

The problem is not americas support for israel, the problem is people thinking that supporting arab countres alone without israel will bring peace, and this above all else, is the great fallacy taking place in the world today. APPEASEMENT and lying to ourselves to HIDE from the reality and responsability of actually having to fight it.

 

RAYE

4:05 AM ET

October 12, 2011

Egypt takes a long path to Democracy

Egypt is wobbling in its efforts to establish a stable democracy and it is doing this on its own, which is a commendable act. The reigning chaos might not make sense to the outsiders at present but slowly and steadily the country will reach its goal. As a vitalzym country that you have ever known, U.S can only wait for the outcome rather than rushing to its aid and fuel the Anti-American sentiment still further. The SCAF should conduct the elections at the earliest and draft a constitution so as to give meaning to the revolution that has dethroned the dictator earlier.

 

YARINSIZ

6:20 PM ET

October 18, 2011

The Egyptian Army might be

The Egyptian Army might be unwilling to be as foolish as Pakistani army has been to promote the Islamic Fanaticism and anti Israel emotions.
What ever may be said by the so seslichat called wise western experts and others about the golden dawn of Democracy about to break in Egypt and elsewhere in the Middle East, few troubling infirmities remained to be examined and seen in near future.

 

CRUNCHBERRY21

9:53 AM ET

October 23, 2011

Failing to build consensus for democracy

I totally agree with these comments but may i include that the military council is and really should satisfy the same fate of mubarak as everyone recognizes that they're and was as corrupt as thier master by appeasing them to acquire these phones surrender power peacefully we're settingcore strengththe precedence when you're in the military you're safe from repraisal and you will pull off corruption.