Uncle Sam and the Saudi Split

Why is the House of Saud risking its hard-won relationship with Washington over the Palestine statehood issue?

BY DAVID OTTAWAY | SEPTEMBER 23, 2011

Saudi Arabia, the Arab world's richest and most powerful state, is once again at loggerheads with the United States, its longtime patron, oil customer, and weapons dealer. The current split opened with the U.S. abandonment of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in January and widened as President Barack Obama's administration haltingly embraced pro-democracy demands from the Arab street -- a trend the kingdom staunchly and unequivocally opposes.

Those differences are yet again on painful display this week at the United Nations, where Saudi Arabia will join other Arab countries -- and over 100 other U.N. members -- in supporting the recognition of a Palestinian state in the world body, a move the United States has committed itself to opposing strenuously on behalf of its closest Middle East ally, Israel.

But Saudi Arabia and the United States have been at odds for much of the last decade, over not just Palestine but also terrorism, energy policy, and the Iraq war. The question is whether repeated strains in the relationship starting even before the 9/11 attacks are leading toward a substantive shift in the kingdom's attitude toward its main foreign protector for the past seven decades. This is a question of major strategic importance for the United States given the kingdom's role as the world's top oil producer in terms of capacity (12.5 million barrels a day) and its No. 4 ranking in foreign exchange holdings ($540 billion). The Saudis continue to hold out against demands from some other oil producers for payment in currency other than the U.S. dollar, partly or totally. What would be the consequences if they agreed to a change in this policy? Is Obama willing to find out?

The United States and Saudi Arabia have always had trouble describing how they relate to each other. For decades, the core of the relationship was summed up in the cryptic description of "oil for security," meaning assured Saudi oil supplies at reasonable prices in return for assured U.S. security of the kingdom against its external enemies, be it Iraq, Iran, or al Qaeda.

In the early 1970s, the two countries coined the term "special relationship," even while Saudi Arabia steadfastly refused to become a "non-NATO ally" of the United States, like Egypt, Jordan and Pakistan, or sign any formal defense agreements. After 9/11, neither side spoke any longer about a "special relationship." It took four years to adopt the term "strategic dialogue," the same used to describe U.S. engagement with China, India, Israel, Pakistan, and Russia.

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David Ottaway is a senior scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and a former Washington Post Middle East correspondent.

SARANNE

12:22 AM ET

September 24, 2011

Iran

The Saudis care much more about Iran than they care about Palestine. The demonization of Israel increases internal stability in Saudi Arabia; the Saudis need Israel to be the scapegoat. If it disappeared, things would, shall we say, not go well.

The Saudis are essentially defenseless and are terrified of a nuclear, fully militarized Iran which has long been vocal about the illegitimacy of the monarchy and its custodianship of the holy places. To the Saudis, the US is the only barrier between Iran and the Peninsula, and they won't be giving up that protection for all the olives in Ramallah.

 

TOUFU

3:34 AM ET

September 24, 2011

A US veto would be a huge

A US veto would be a huge boost to Iranian influence, that's why Saudi is scared of it.

 

TOUFU

4:07 PM ET

September 24, 2011

Seeing how Obama dumped

Seeing how Obama dumped Mubarak, a close friend of the Saudi King, the Saudis realized they too can be dumped by US if they are no longer needed. Saudi can no longer rely on US for protections. Vetoing Palestinian statehood will be the last straw. Saudi will now do things its own way without US.

 

SOODA12

1:44 PM ET

October 2, 2011

Saranne

The Saudis initiated a peace offer to Israel in 2002 that was a sweet deal and supported by the Saudi people. It was also supported by 22 Arab states including Syria.. Israel is NOT a scapegoat for the Saudi leadership.

The Iranians have had ambitions on the Arabian Peninsula since 1979.. and most of that is simple envy.

 

JIMHANSEN15

2:51 AM ET

September 24, 2011

Ideology

The reason the do this is because they back any religious ideology that follows their dogma. Until all these people renounce the violence of this hate filled religion there will never be peace.... just ask.. in what country that islam is the religion of choice is truly peaceful?

Solar Jim

 

JXASIFAL

4:11 AM ET

September 24, 2011

Ideology

" In what country where Islam is the religion of choice truly peaceful?"
Answer : Malaysia, Bangladesh ....

Islam is more than just the Arab world and the middle east.

 

STAN C

4:09 AM ET

September 25, 2011

There's little doubt that the

There's little doubt that the Saudi Kingdom have an economic stranglehold over the US due to their massive currency holdings and the way they trade their oil in US dollars. However the US have just as much influence over the Saudis in terms of trade and international influence. The US will continue to support Israel against the interests of the Arab world, but the US-Saudi relationship is too necessary to both parties to be even remotely compromised. This is probably Obama's last stand before he returns to work from home to get re-elected, and his pro Israel rhetoric will fade into the background.

 

ARRANJOS FLOR

8:33 AM ET

September 25, 2011

Jim in Cloud Filled Sky.

yea, i Agree in Solar Jim’s Christian Nation murdered over 2 million Vietnamese for no obvious reason. Before that, the same Christian Nation Ethnically Cleansed tens of millions of Native American Indians and confiscated their land.... of Christianity and the savagery of its adherents Solar Genius? It sounds appropriate for a.... thanks!
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KINGFISHER

9:59 AM ET

September 25, 2011

Uncle Sam and the Saudi Split

With countless thanks to the author of the article I would like to add a word suggest to the author that he should not have missed in his article to elucidate the point which is very much linked with the article is "In love and War everything is fair"

Therefore, there was nothing lost and nothing gained. Yes, self professed analyst of an electronic media tried to paint the President as first Jewish President.

He being an analyst should have been careful in using controversial words. I am sure that such controversial characters are employed in controversial electronic medias for propagating controversial issues for the detriment of the Nation at the behest of a particular organization AIPAC.

Americans after all these days have started to open their voice against AIPAC. In addition the saner Jewish group of J street have nothing but hate for AIPAC's obnoxious hateful activities.

All the trouble in American politics is created by this disgusting lobby group AIPAC, The earlier it is ousted permanently will be better for peace to prevail within the country. and the world.

 

NICHOLAS WIBBERLEY

10:24 AM ET

September 25, 2011

Time for a change?

The Saudis are an anachronism and a tiresome nuisance, so is Israel. Were I King, I would drop both of them and take up with Tehran. Just think what a lot of weight we could take off each other's shoulders, plus it would no longer matter if they wanted nuclear weapons, in fact it might even be a good idea to help them. I’m sure they’re nice people when you get to know them. What’s that fellow’s name? Amahdinny something? Give him a call, ask him to dinner, or whatever it is they do.

 

GWALD89

8:24 PM ET

September 25, 2011

What Isn't Mentioned

1. The Wikileaks cables that indicated the Saudis were more interested in the Americans cutting off the head of the Iranian snake. Perhaps the Saudis concluded that Obama wouldn't give them what they wanted on "security," so the Saudis wouldn't give them what they wanted on the peace process. Also possible that the Saudis never were considering giving Obama what he wanted--namely, steps toward diplomatic recognition.
2. Gulf money funding the Afghan insurgency. Just today the NY Times reported that the Haqqani network received funds from the Gulf. ISAF and Western Intelligence have been saying the same thing for years. Funding the killers of American soldiers, and of the people who are in alliance with the perpetrators of 9/11, not to mention funding the perpetrators themselves, should be the single biggest problem in dealing with the Saudis. Obama stopped accepting Pakistan's BS while Bush was afraid to, and he should do the same with the Saudis. It's not like it's an open economy. And if the Royal family can't stop this funding without a civil war, then we should move away from oil dependence on them.

 

JOSEPH BETOUR

8:04 AM ET

September 26, 2011

Thats the Problem

That's the problem, The USA can not retract oil dependance from Saudi. That's the ONLY reason why USA deals with them and its for their oil. If it weren't for the oil, Saudi would be another Sudan or worse off. if we were to go on political systems, The USA would be closer to Iran than Saudi. Saudi also has the "pay your problems away" approach. Historically, whenever instability brews in The Middle East, KSA would be the first to come and offer an abundance of cash for stability and resolution. Any instability sends fear through their regime as they know what the surrounding countries think of them, regardless Muslims world wide.

 

ANA STROE

3:34 AM ET

September 26, 2011

question

Ok people, this may sound like an idiotic question, but why is it so important for the US to have the Saudis' friendship? And please don't tell me for oil! I mean there has to be a strategic importance for this relationship to be kept at most amiable terms if they are going through so much trouble trying not to piss the Arabs off.
From what I see these guys have a very bad temper and any American action may cause them to act hostile. So why bother trying to keep them satisfied? Im genuinely at a loss when it comes to understanding this relationship..

 

JACOB BLUES

5:06 PM ET

September 26, 2011

Actually Ana, the oil is that important an issue

It was for the British back in the 1940's, it is today with the US.

Saudi Arabia not only produces oil, but it produces a high quality oil, much sought after.

In addition, the Sauds are the only ones who really have any level of spare production capacity.

This is a key strategic relationship. And, oil for security has been the cornerstone of the US Saudi relationship since Saud and Roosevelt back in the 1940's.

Oil makes the world go around.

Though I would like to hear just what currency would replace the US Dollar these days? The Euro? Not likely, that leaves China's RMB, which they don't want to use as a reserve currency because it would have to float freely.

So what's left? Nothing really. Unless the Sauds want to tempt fate with the Yen. One more Tsunami though, and they're floating in worthless paper.

No, the Sauds are table pounding a bit, but they don't have much of a leg to stand on.

 

ANA STROE

5:54 AM ET

September 28, 2011

thanks, makes sense to me

thanks, makes sense to me

 

SOODA12

1:28 PM ET

October 2, 2011

Saudis are the oldest and most stable US ally in the ME

Anyone who has been watching Saudi Arabia for the past 70 years knows that the SAG has never been defiant or confrontational.... They prefer to use cash and diplomacy..

Further, the Saudi people have a great deal of confidence in their leadership.. which has demonstrated their dedication to insuring the economic and social future of the Saudi people.

Saudi Arabia is NOT an absolute monarchy.. They have to gain consensus from a variety of power groups in the kingdom: the merchants, the Saudi family, the technocrats, the tribes and so forth before they can institute reforms..

Its noteworthy that Saudi Arabia has NO ambitions with regard to Iran.. Yet Iran wants a foothold on the Arabian peninsula.. namely in Bahrain and Yemen.

Its a mistake for Westerners to think that Yemen is like Bahrain or Arabia or Egypt or Libya.. .. or that any of these countries face identical challenges.

The worst thing that could happen to laid back Bahrain, which is stable and prosperous, would be to overthrow the government and bring on chaos and poverty.

Khalifa is NOT Khadafi.

 

SOF217

6:36 AM ET

September 26, 2011

Article on Saudi Arabia= Bash Israel

I am amazed that any article that even remotely references Israel is used as a portal for people who simply dislike like Israel and look for any chance to kick her down.

Saudi Arabia is a strategic partner for the US, because we need oil. Otherwise, this kingdom is one of the most repressive and backward places when it comes to all standards for women's rights, justice system, etc.

The Saudis just announced they will allow women to vote in the next municipal election (not the one coming up- too late to setup separate voting booths for women- the one after, which does not have a date yet)

On the other hand, Israel's Arab populate is just over 20% and includes among other things Arab-Israeli Knesset (parliament) members like Ahmed Tibi which accompanied Mahmoud Abbas on his private UAE jet to the UN! Reverse that story around to any other country where a Saudi parliament member, whoops, doesn't exist, okay, a Palestinian member of the Palestinian Legislative Council coming to the UN with the Israeli delegation. Yes, the Apartheid state in action, all in plain site for everyone to see.

 

CHONG SUN WAH

9:43 AM ET

September 26, 2011

Palestine

SACRIFICE IS GREATNESS

As soon as sacrifice becomes a duty and necessity to mankind. I see no limit to the horizon which opens before him - Ernest Renan.

Humble because of knowledge; mighty by sacrifice - Rudyard Kipling

With the guidance of Almighty God may the Israelis government and people make the right decision that will bring peace, harmony and unity for the world.

http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/11907#comment_82816

 

ARVAY

11:03 AM ET

September 26, 2011

who gives a sh*t

. . . about the Saudi degenerocracy? Once again, we've glued ourselves to a loser -- Israel in one hand and the Kingdom of the Fat in another -- two increasingly marginalized and unpopular forces in the region.

Meanwhile, the modern and rising powers in the region --Iran and Turkey and now Egypt -- are moving toward the future.

Iran launches communications satellites and Saudi Arabia launches fatwas.

We're supposed to fight with Iran to protect the Israeli albatross -- handing zillions of dollars of business to others. Iran is a dictatorship, you cry? Gee, that didn't seem to bother us about Mubarak's Egypt.

Sixty years plus of misbegotten American Mid-East policy is disintegrating before our eyes.

We no longer look ominous -- we look ridiculous.

 

PFNOVAK

12:32 PM ET

September 26, 2011

Iran is a technologically

Iran is a technologically progressing country that has antagonized most of its neighbors, so we should ally with it.

Israel is a far more advanced technologically progressing country that has antagonized most of its neighbors, so we dump them as allies.

What is your logic here?

 

IDIOTPRAYER84

7:06 PM ET

September 26, 2011

Caught between a rock and a hard place

The more the Saudis side with US the more it cedes the ideological play field to Iran in the region. Iran has already used the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to undermine the Saudi's claim as leader of the Muslim world and overcome the traditional Arab-Persian hostilities. Now that Iran is on its was to getting a nuclear weapon, it's influence in the region with sky rocket at the expense of the Saudis.Ironically, Iran's influence abroad is increasing while it's domestic support is falling.

Also, with the "Arab Awakening," the Saudis have to listen to public opinion while not anger its best oil customer and chief defender. A US veto at the UN will anger the region and the Saudis would rather side with the rest of the Muslim world than further alienate the "Arab street." The Saudi monarchy's legitimacy has been hurt helping the US in the past and can't afford to take another hit now.

 

PFNOVAK

11:35 PM ET

September 28, 2011

Iran has increased its

Iran has increased its profile in the Middle East, but will have to do a lot more than posture belligerently and send off-brand Qassam rockets to Gaza to challenge the Sunni Arab powers that be.

 

GETLIKES

7:52 AM ET

September 27, 2011

I would like to hear just

I would like to hear just what currency would replace the US Dollar these days? The Euro? Not likely, that leaves China's RMB, which they don't want to use as a reserve currency because it would have to float freely.

 

JOEKING

9:28 PM ET

October 5, 2011

Saudi shouldn’t risk their ties with US

The foundation of the ‘Oil for security’ ploy sounds rickety and only time can tell, if it can withstand further straining of relations between these 2 nations. U.S vetoing the formation of Palestinian State at U.N did not go well with Saudi King who has long been supporting the cause of Palestine with vehemence. In spite of the varied interests Saudi and U.S holds in the countries of Palestine and Bahrain respectively, a clear understanding of their bi-lateral dependency and the fact that, how badly they need each other to survive like the anti inflammatory we need to fight back inflammation should be realized by them before doing anything revolutionary that might sever their ties for good.

 

DEBTDUE

7:20 PM ET

October 15, 2011

Weakening of US power

This goes to show how much the US has lost in terms of power, when Saudi Arabia can do a thing like this. Lets be honest with ourselves here, we are not the super power we once were, but we still try to act like it. We have been crushed at home with the financial and realestate crashes yet we still try and extend our power into the rest of the world. It is time that we start taking care of what is going on at home and end our expansionist doctrine.

 

YARINSIZ

5:40 PM ET

October 18, 2011

Therefore, there was nothing

Therefore, there was nothing lost and nothing gained. Yes, self professed analyst of an electronic media tried to paint the President as first Jewish President. He being an analyst should have been careful in using controversial words. seslichat I am sure that such controversial characters are employed in controversial electronic medias for propagating controversial issues for the detriment of the Nation at the behest of a particular organization AIPAC.