That Seventies Show

France's newly dominant Socialists have absorbed the lessons of American politics -- but are they planning to take the republic back to the future?

BY JAMES TRAUB | SEPTEMBER 30, 2011

You probably didn't notice the most recent debate among the républicains. It was spirited but courteous; it focused relentlessly on the economy; it clarified differences -- and it further consolidated the apparently invincible lead of François Hollande.

Monsieur Hollande is, of course, the front-runner in the race among France's Socialists to challenge Nicolas Sarkozy in the presidential race next year. Among Hollande's chief rivals is Ségolène Royal, whom Sarkozy trounced last time around, and who soon thereafter separated from Hollande, her partner -- though not spouse -- of 30 years. French politics are more solemn than the American version, but also sexier.

But the most remarkable thing about the debate, held on Wednesday, Sept. 28, is that it occurred at all. French parties have traditionally chosen presidential candidates through ballots among activists, making nomination an essentially private affair. No longer: This year, anyone who claims to subscribe to the principles of the Parti Socialiste can vote; and for the first time ever, the candidates have put themselves on public parade. Although Sarko has always advertised himself as the Disney-loving, American-style candidate, it is the Socialists who, despite their horror of capitalist vulgarity, have adopted the American system, complete with debate coaches, polls, and spin. And it has proved to be a brilliant move on their part.

The other day, Le Monde ran a post-debate analysis that any close reader of American political news would have found bewildering. The point of the piece was that the magisterial contempt with which leaders in the UMP, Sarko's party, had been treating this innovation had collapsed in the face of reality. That was interesting; but what was amazing was that UMP officials were quoted by name admitting that they had been bested. "It was a lovely democratic exercise," said one UMP deputy. "It gives a good image. We would do well to be inspired by it ourselves." Another noted that because each of the six candidates offered slightly different policy prescriptions, voters on the left could all find something to identify with -- "and this risks staying in their head even when there's only one remaining candidate." Haven't those UMP officials ever heard of "off the record"?

For those of us who have already gotten bored with the interminable GOP debates, it's touching to be reminded of the merits that others, with their fresher eyes, see in the process. The French seem slightly dazzled by their brave new populist world. I listened to a TV interview show that urgently asked, "Who are the men of the shadows?" -- the gurus, the advisors, the coaches. In the United States, of course, these figures are celebrities in their own right; the Sunday talk shows couldn't exist without them. And polls! Hollande's rivals have objected to the polls, which find him securely in the lead, because it's almost impossible to determine in advance if any given respondent will actually participate in the party ballot.

This was a race that Dominique Strauss-Kahn was, of course, supposed to win in a cakewalk. I always believed that a chief reason for the left's outrage at the sexual-assault accusations lodged against DSK, as well as at his alleged manhandling by the Manhattan district attorney, was that the party's hopes of winning in 2012 so completely hinged on him. But that's already a memory. It is Sarko now who is being sunk by scandal (see Eric Pape's "Is Sarkozy Fini?"), while the left has been buoyed by its embrace of openness. "There is a mood of hope in the left, and I think we're really post-DSK now," says Justin Vaïsse, a Brookings Institution analyst. A senior diplomat and scholar says that the debates have proved "quite refreshing and have been perceived in that way by observers, and it makes UMP, divided by infighting but compelled to support one candidate, look a bit old-fashioned."

This project of refurbishment also has an amusing François-Ségo subtext. Royal ran in 2007 on the premise that French voters had grown disgusted with the pomposities of the grand discours -- the high-flown policy declamations that define French politics at the national level -- and instead craved a politics of family values and home truths. She wound up sounding slightly weird, and not altogether real, and Sarko ate her lunch in the debates. The erudite, articulate Hollande is a traditional politician of the left -- so much so that he was having an affair with a political journalist, which is why Royal kicked him out of the house -- and now he has thoroughly supplanted his ex-partner. Hollande is the future, Royal the past. I'm told that so far they have kept a careful distance from one another.

FRED DUFOUR/AFP/Getty Images

 SUBJECTS: FRANCE, ELECTIONS
 

James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of, most recently, The Freedom Agenda. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

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6:43 AM ET

October 1, 2011

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GLOBALFORCES

8:55 PM ET

October 1, 2011

Quality debate

France's leftist political parties captured the Senate for the first time in more than half a century. They are believed to have won more than the 23 seats needed to gain a majority in the Senate. Another setback for embattled conservative president Nicolas Sarkozy ahead of France's upcoming national election.

The French Senate has limited powers, and local lawmakers - not the the public - elect its 348 members. Still, France's left is casting the results from Sunday's vote as a pointer to two bigger elections next year - for the presidency and lower house.

While they take a paseo melbourne and worry about sitting comfortably under their best ceiling fans (some even have portable fans).. Ordinary citizens don't have these luxuries in their own country.

In an interview on France-Info radio, presidential hopeful Francois Hollande, of the main opposition Socialist party, said the win by the left did not simply mark a defeat for center-right President Nicolas Sarkozy, but a real trauma. Even though less than half the Senate seats were contested, the conservatives lost control of the body for the first time in post-war French politics.

Not surprisingly, the ruling UMP party downplayed the fallout.

 

RKKA

8:09 AM ET

October 1, 2011

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"I kept encountering the unfamiliar expression licenciement boursier, apparently a terrible thing. Buhler translated this expression for me: "downsizing in order to improve the standing of a company in the stock exchange." This is, of course, pretty much how Romney made his fortune. The rough American translation would be: "efficiencies." Martine Aubry, the party leader, proposed allowing employees to petition a court to replace the leadership of such a refractory firm; Royal proposed banning the practice. Told by the interviewer that her ideas were redolent of 1970s thinking, she shot back, "You could say that, and it wouldn't bother me." "

Amazing! French politicians intend not to treat their work force as disposable!

How un-American!

 

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12:18 PM ET

October 1, 2011

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Makes no sense to me.

 

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6:27 PM ET

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French Politicians

At least the French politicians and civil servants are technocrats and can have a rational debate. In the US, lawyers, corporate and Jewish lobbies and Evangelical zionists dictate policies to the legislature, the executive and to a politicized judiciary. US politicians therefore don't act necessarily on behalf of their electorate.

 

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