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The Elephants in the Room

Barack Obama's Republican challengers haven't thought very deeply about foreign policy. It shows.

BY JAMES TRAUB | NOVEMBER 2011

In June, Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty delivered a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations. Speaking before the council or writing an essay in its house organ, Foreign Affairs, had for decades offered candidates a means of proving their foreign-policy gravitas. And the former Minnesota governor was running his campaign by a traditional script. But in a GOP field where contempt for the foreign-policy establishment has become the norm, Pawlenty's aspiration for its imprimatur seemed almost touching. Pawlenty presented himself as a champion of the Arab Spring and a voice for "moral clarity." "What is wrong," he bluntly warned, "is for the Republican Party to shrink from the challenges of American leadership in the world."

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Pawlenty quickly became the darling of conservative foreign-policy experts. And then his candidacy sank like a stone. By August, after a dismal showing in the Ames straw poll in Iowa, he withdrew. "He probably spent too much time on foreign policy," one rueful conservative activist told me.

The world beyond America's borders just doesn't figure in the 2012 campaign. In the 2008 Republican debates, candidates regularly crossed swords on the war in Iraq, the nuclear showdown with Iran, and the proper conduct of the war on terror. At this year's first real debate, held in Manchester, New Hampshire, the rest of the world wasn't even mentioned until more than 90 minutes into the two-hour event. "Given the focus on economic issues, it's difficult to get the candidates interested in foreign policy," laments Jamie Fly, head of the Foreign Policy Initiative, which acts as a transmission belt between conservative intellectuals and politicians. Audiences seem similarly apathetic. The heartiest applause often goes to libertarian Rep. Ron Paul when he calls for as little foreign policy as possible, as he did recently in Iowa during a discussion of the Middle East. His prescription: "Stay out of their internal business. Don't get involved in these wars. And just bring our troops home." This is precisely the disengagement of which Pawlenty was warning.

Sometimes, of course, foreign policy really is politically salient. Strange though it sounds today, for much of the 2008 campaign Barack Obama thought that his worldview would be the campaign's defining issue. He was the candidate who would eliminate nuclear weapons, stop browbeating America's allies, bring the troops back from Iraq, and end the "color-coded politics of fear." In the Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton attacked him for his lack of foreign-policy experience (remember the 3 a.m. phone call ad?), and the two had a genuinely telling difference of opinion about whether a policy of "engagement" should extend to talking with tyrants without preconditions.

Then the economic crisis hit. Although Obama and Republican nominee John McCain dueled over Iraq, foreign policy quickly receded from center stage. As president, Obama has disappointed many of his liberal supporters, but also blunted Republican lines of attack on his foreign policy by pursuing the war on terror much as George W. Bush did and adding 30,000-plus troops to Afghanistan; by killing Osama bin Laden, he has strengthened his hand with voters across the political spectrum. But Obama is also terribly exposed on jobs and the faltering economy, issues on which the GOP candidates have good reason to believe that they can ride national dissatisfaction to the White House. So it's no surprise that foreign affairs has gotten so little attention.

Matt Dorfman

 

James Traub, a weekly columnist on ForeignPolicy.com, is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and a fellow of the Center on International Cooperation.

ANONOPED

8:48 PM ET

October 10, 2011

Ron Paul the Really Really Big Invisible Elephant

It's quite apparent the neocons are struggling to maintain their legacy. Although, I'm not sure if i was a neocon I'd want to lay claim to it.

Spending beyond the pale.
Endless war.
Authoritarianism.
Loss of control of the FED.
The advancement of corporatism.
The demonetization of Islam.

Really, the new old grey beards should just come out and admit it. At least they would have some sort of place in history other than the cause of The War on Terror and the decline of the American Empire.

If you could image all of the elephants in this room sitting on a giant invisible tusk that's attached to a giant invisible elephant. That's Ron Paul. He's eclipsed you and if you were smart, you'd beg the old, old grey beards to back him.

 

SLANTEDVIEW

10:35 AM ET

October 11, 2011

Misconstrued non-interventionism, again

"Ron Paul when he calls for as little foreign policy as possible"

Advocating for non-interventionism isn't "little foreign policy", it is just different foreign policy - you know, the kind that doesn't cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of lives for no meaningful return here at home.

Attempting to belittle the idea of non-interventionism is obvious and shameful.

 

FREDDYSEZ

10:55 AM ET

October 11, 2011

Is war the only form of foreign policy?

Throughout this article, the author characterizes one candidate after another as wanting "as little foreign policy as possible" -- painting them all with the brush of isolationism, with its attendant implications (ignorance, xenophobia, insufficient sophistication). Paul and Huntsman come in for the worst of this treatment.

But in each instance, the only proof points the author can offer are ones regarding troop deployment, armed intervention and "nation-building."

I haven't heard a single GOP candidate come out against trade relationships.

I haven't heard a single GOP candidate come out against diplomacy.

I haven't heard a single GOP candidate come out against cultural ties or goodwill initiatives.

This is the sort of thing I'd expect the The New York Post to get wrong. What was the name of this publication again?

 

JIVATMANX

8:37 PM ET

October 11, 2011

Insanity

What do we call people who think the only "real" form of human interaction is violence?

Generally, in normal life, psychopaths.

They think the only form of legitimate economic interaction is aid.

Generally, in normal life, pimps.

Unfortunately, not only can't violence beat others into liking us: I.E., Iraq, Afghanistan, but...

Neither has tens of billions of Aid to Pakistan got us anything but a show, or aid to Israel got us anything but contempt and ingratitude, at the expense of taxpayer's dear labors.

Meanwhile, other countries like Turkey and China are using investment to start mutually beneficial relationships which bring both prosperity and goodwill, without any taxpayer money.

 

FREDDYSEZ

11:01 AM ET

October 11, 2011

This just in...

Jon Huntsman just gave a major policy address on... oops, oh well:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-10/huntsman-outlines-judicious-approach-to-foreign-policy.html

But in addition to trade agreements and international cooperation, he also mentioned scaling back the number of wars we fight. So I guess he's an isolationist after all.

 

MARCIAFLORES

10:09 AM ET

October 12, 2011

The only form of foreign policy..

Paul and Huntsman come in for the worst of this treatment. But in each instance, the only proof points the author can offer are ones regarding troop deployment...I haven't heard a single GOP candidate come out against diplomacy...What was the name of this publication again...Thanks !
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VERITAS11

2:05 AM ET

October 13, 2011

underlying conversation

To me, the real question seems to be where we draw the line on foreign policy? Most people would agree that the United States is over-committed across the globe. I'm not sure that I am one of them. Is global moral responsibility our.... responsibility as a so-called world power? At what point do we make the decision to insert ourselves into an issue, to risk the lives of our own people? Maybe that's just it; "we" cannot be Americans, but the entire human race, and ideally, all life on earth. No matter how I think about the issue, I end up in the same place. With such a diverse set of minds, how can we possibly come to a consensus on what is right and wrong, what needs to be intervened on and what does not. And this is just foreign policy, think about all laws! I think I may be rambling at this point, but maybe someone can offer a refreshing view on this topic. I am aware that I am just scratching the surface, just offering my 2 cents.

 

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6:13 AM ET

October 14, 2011

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6:15 AM ET

October 14, 2011

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AMCALABRESE

6:38 AM ET

October 17, 2011

There still is a foreign

There still is a foreign policy consensus. Despite the GOP complaints, what real difference is there in the first three years of Obama from the last three years of Bush (other than the fact that unlike Bush, Obama believes he can take America to war without Congress and that he can put US citizens on "kill" lists)?

I think this consensus is, post Cold War increasingly out of touch with the "Jacksonian" and "Jeffersonian" masses and that is part of the problem. But given the economic issues we face, I think and frankly hope foreign policy is a back burner in the GOP race and in the general election.

 

NMSRJAGMH

3:59 AM ET

October 18, 2011

Totally Clueless

They are all clueless on what the main issues are. All they care about is their own party and how to push their policies. If you were to let them wear muay thai gear, they will start to promote whatever it is that suits them even if it does not make sense.

 

YUSEF101

1:32 AM ET

October 25, 2011

they dont need to

Presidents dont decide foreign policy
the council on foreign relations does.

 

YARINSIZ

5:01 AM ET

November 7, 2011

No matter how I think about

No matter how I think about the issue, I end up in the same place. With such a diverse set of minds, how can we possibly come to a consensus on what is right and wrong, what needs to be intervened on and what does not. And this is just foreign policy, think about all laws! seslichat I think I may be rambling at this point, but maybe someone can offer a refreshing view on this topic. I am aware that I am just scratching the surface, just offering my 2 cents.

 

PRELIOCIVEDE

1:28 PM ET

November 9, 2011

Americans have got a great

Americans have got a great history, Americans have got the most beautiful country in this world... America's simply the worthiest country being interested in, the worthiest country being in love with and although I'm not American, I? have its flag right above my head at this very moment and whenever I take a glance at it I regret not to be born American but I'm proud of it as well... Love your country fellas, show the world America is still the greatest free nation in the world. May God Bless America.