Plan Afghanistan

Why the Colombia model -- even if it means drug war and armed rebellion -- is the best chance for U.S. success in Central Asia.

BY PAUL WOLFOWITZ , MICHAEL O'HANLON | OCTOBER 28, 2011

President Barack Obama made clear this week that the remaining troops will soon come home from Iraq. Some 10 years after the first troops landed in Afghanistan, we're now nearly back to a one-front war. But where are we, really? It's clear that both citizens and Washington alike are collectively weary of war and frustrated by this particular mission, with its interminable timelines and uncertain partners in Kabul and Islamabad, even if it has only been three to four years since the United States intensified its collective focus and resources on this mission.

In both Iraq and Afghanistan, the temporary surge of U.S. forces was used for two purposes: First, to increase the size and quality of Iraqi and Afghan security forces so that they could take over most or all of the fight -- this might be called "the surge that stays behind" or the "permanent surge"; and second, to create conditions sufficiently stable so that what we hand off to indigenous forces is not a losing hand that is doomed to fail, but one with a reasonable chance of success. The surge in Iraq produced dramatic results in a relatively short period of time; the results in Afghanistan have been more limited. With the president having announced that U.S. forces will withdraw by 2014, the question bears asking: Is victory in Afghanistan now beyond our grasp?

Many analysts have noted that the surge strategy in Afghanistan needs to be fundamentally different from that in Iraq. It is not an accident but rather a product of geography and the demography that Iraq has had strong central governments over the course of thousands of years, whereas Afghanistan has never had one. An Iraqi government can aspire to control all or nearly all of its territory. Indeed, any notion of success in Iraq virtually requires it. An Afghan government, on the other hand, cannot aspire to such an ambitious goal and, critically, success in Afghanistan does not require it.

Strange though it may sound, success in Afghanistan would look a lot more like the success that has been achieved in Colombia over the last 10 years, rather than the success that we are hoping for in Iraq. This is a point that was made two-and-a-half years ago by Scott Wilson, a Washington Post reporter who had spent four years in Colombia as a correspondent and a year in Iraq. Writing in April 2009, Wilson said that Obama "may want to look south rather than east in charting a new course" for Afghanistan. Though they hide in triple-canopy jungles rather than forbidding mountains, the insurgents in Colombia, like those in Afghanistan, will always enjoy the benefit of sanctuaries inside the country. And, until Pakistan withdraws its support for the Taliban, Pakistan will cause the same problems for the Afghan government that Venezuela does for Colombia.

Back then, in 2009, Afghanistan wasn't ready for such a strategy. But the successes of the surge since then -- which have been substantial even though not as dramatic as the ones achieved in just a year in Iraq -- make it possible to do so now. In both Iraq and Afghanistan the surge has involved a temporary increase in U.S. troop levels -- but the increase in numbers only works because it supports a shift in strategy, from one centered on killing or capturing enemy combatants to one focused on providing security for the local population. Along with that shift in strategy, a much greater emphasis has been placed on increasing both the quality and quantity of local security forces, so that they can eventually maintain that local security -- and continue the fight against extremists -- without substantial reliance on U.S. forces.

But even assuming a best-case scenario, it is unlikely that any government would be able to exercise control over the entire country, much less one with Afghanistan's weak institutions, uncertain current leadership, colonial borders, and ancient tribal society. There will always be significant sections of the country, particularly in the more remote mountainous regions, where a guerilla movement like the Taliban can find effective sanctuary. That situation is substantially worsened by the existence of virtually unimpeded sanctuary on the Pakistan side of the border and support for the Taliban from important elements of that country's national security apparatus.

Given the strength and determination of the Taliban, perhaps it was never realistic to establish what the U.N. Conference on Afghanistan in Bonn in 2001 hoped would be "a broad-based, gender sensitive, multi-ethnic and fully representative government" over all of Afghanistan. But if we set our sights realistically, we can still achieve the minimum standards of success needed to protect American security and give the Afghan people hope for a better future, in a way that is also consistent with the pressures of U.S. politics. Rather than aiming to establish government control over the entire country, the U.S. goal should be to contain the insurgency while giving the Afghans the tools to take over the fight from us in coming years.

Piero Pomponi/Newsmakers

 

Paul Wolfowitz is a visiting scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, and formerly U.S. deputy secretary of defense, president of the World Bank, and dean of John Hopkins (SAIS).

Michael O'Hanlon is senior fellow at Brookings, coauthor of its Afghanistan Index, and coauthor with Gretchen Birkle and Hassina Sherjan of the Brookings publication, "Toward a Political Strategy for Afghanistan."

WMCCOMNINEL

9:12 AM ET

October 28, 2011

Vital Interest

Afghanistan and Colombia are basically narco-states and anyone who does business with them does so for that reason not despite it. This is not news. Why use American tax dollars to pave roads in Afghanistan so that a drug lord can set up an improvised toll booth where the collector knows precisely one English phrase, “Your money or your life”? Or does America have another vital national security interest to protect in Afghanistan (which was quiescent until 10 years ago) perhaps the supply of pine nuts?

 

ABDALI

3:49 PM ET

October 29, 2011

Re : Vital Interest

SOME FACTS

1) who is consuming such large quantity . Afghanies ? American and Europe ? who...

2) Ordinary person can't even take needle to US and Europe. Who is behind this trafficking.

3) According to UN report (1998) poppy cultivation was 0 % . Started again after American invasion.... but by whom

 

RODNEY-889389

4:30 AM ET

October 31, 2011

The Clown Show

Haven't these two people done enough damage? I'm surprised they have the nerve to even write ANYTHING for public consumption.

Please go away, and stay away. The last thing this country needs is advice from these two clowns.

 

MONGO46538

11:05 AM ET

October 28, 2011

Credibility

From Paul Wolfowitz,
Fellow architect of "President Bush's Iraq policy and ... its most hawkish advocate". Yes another great decision by such brilliant minds and then eventually President of the World Bank Group, another nepotistic career failure.

People like him would have the US militarily involved anywhere it protects the interests of the Uber rich.

FP you lose credibility points for allow him to post...

 

MIRAMARE

12:01 PM ET

October 28, 2011

credibility of this article

your article is not true and shows just the lies which the US government uses to put their "actions into the right light". As with Columbia - CIA had been involved in drug trafficking and the FBI tried to put its leader responsible for at trial in USA. Unfortunately they failed; CIA is a very strong governmental department, maybe even completely indepentend ! Who knows ?

In Afghaanistan in 2000 the drug-"seeds" "harvested" were almost nile ....

Starting with the involvement of USA in 2001 and later on NATO the crops for drugs were 7-fold by 2010 and drug trafficking is done mostly in Europe.
Without the help of NATO/USA no drugs could have been trafficked. Neither through the borders nor through Kosovo - which has been meanwhile (since the Jugoslavian/NATO war there) one of its main places. Its all under the eyes of NATO/US-soldiers.

Looking onto the map at the NATO's website it is clearly seen how they "divided" Afghanistan.

Considering the GPS-System anyone nowadays knows or should now that (when drone bombing is done from far away as California/US) the surveillance over this country's "movements" of people cannot done without the "help" by the invaders and occupyers of this country (= NATO).

Russia is blaiming NATO directly for drug trafficking as they have problems since the invasion by USA/NATO in Afghanistan.

The case of drugs and its trafficking is well known by the US government.
And concerning Columbia there are a lot of information, reliable ones.

I do hope that in future your articles are much more founded and not only "crying out US governmental interests".

miramare

 

FRED MERTZ72

12:12 PM ET

October 28, 2011

Paul Wolfowitz defraud us into fighting for Israel.

We were pushed into invading Iraq by Israel NEOCON subversives like Paul Wolfowitz, and the FAR RIGHT-WING "American Enterprise Institute" (AEI) who deflected the real war on Terror for Israelis objective, not Americas.

The overall thrust of U.S. policy in the region is due almost entirely to the activities of the “Israel Lobby.” No lobby has managed to divert U.S. foreign policy as far from what the American national interest would otherwise be. The result? Afghanistan was abandoned with very possibly a bloodbath that spills over into the instigator of this failed war in Iraq, Israel.

 

BRUCELEE2

9:31 AM ET

October 29, 2011

Forum for a Fool

FP should not publish anything by someone who has been wrong about every foreign policy position he has promoted - with disasterous effects upon the US and the world.

Once again this is utter nonsense from Wolfowitz. There is no valid analogy between FARC and Taliban, the governments of Afghanistan and Columbia and their current and future situations. This is just another pathetic attempt to grab the spotlight and push another wrong headed neocon theory. Next Wolfowitz will probably claim the $180M cocaine shipment (captured in a sub) was launched from the Andeas by FARC with help from Venezuela, which we need to invade to protect ourselves from drugs of mass destruction.

FP please fire the editor that pushed publication of this piece of garbage.

 

TARQUINIS

1:09 PM ET

October 28, 2011

The futility of misconceptions

In Afghanistan, we are fighting what is called in military theory a “Protracted War”. It is the opposite of what may be called a war of quick decision, where combat results in any particular battle are important. Control of territory is not decisive. Or even the main goal.

Politics and perseverance, not battle results, are the core elements of the conflict. Basic Von Clausewitz you may say: “War is not an independent phenomenon, but the continuation of politics by different means.”

Its operational thesis may be simply defined as follows; the enemy attacks, we withdraw. The enemy camps, we harass. The enemy withdraws, we pursue.

Mao tse-Dung (who wrote "On Protracted War") believed the theory that "weapons decide everything” constituted a mechanical approach to the question of war and is a subjective and one-sided view in instance of irregular and asymmetric conflicts, especially on the Asian mainland.

Mao saw not only weapons and the strength of armies, but also people. Weapons are an important factor in a Protracted War, but not the decisive factor; it is people, not things that are decisive. Vietnam was basically a Protracted War, where we won every significant battle but lost the war nonetheless, because there was no political outcome feasible or amenable to our dictates.

Logistically, Afghanistan is a battle at the end of the world (landlocked central Asia) that is estimated in direct costs alone to be about one million dollars per man in country per year, and where a single gallon of gasoline, at delivery to one of the FOBs in Afghanistan, costs about $400 per single gallon! All borrowed and added to our deficits, because no American would agree to pay war taxes to cover this massive expense.

And as for the Pashtun (Taliban) most reside in eastern Pakistan, where they outside of occasional Predator drone strikes with Hellfire missiles have a largely inviolable strategic sanctuary, a major predicate for an ultimately successful Protracted War. They have never ever surrendered to any foreign army in occupation or conquest. The more we kill, the more they hate our guts, the local strength of our imperial storm troopers notwithstanding.

To be sure, there are many differences between China in the 1930’s, or Vietnam, and the Afghanistan conflict today. But it will be the similarities that are of consequence.

 

SUSANSUNFLOWER

1:19 PM ET

October 28, 2011

When did Plan Colombia become something to emulate?

Actually, I"m amused because a couple of years ago I insisted that with regard to Afghanistan, we had not only failed to learn from Vietnam AND Iraq but MOST OF ALL from Plan Colombia.

I guess recycling past failures is the best this crowd can come up with.... The human rights abuses and death squads, check. Weak and corrupt central governement, check. Let's throw a few more billions into strengthening their army and police in the name of "stability" Surely if only Karzai would stop being so obstinate wrt aerial crop eradication ... yeah, right.

 

TRC6111

1:36 PM ET

October 28, 2011

Victory by another means

I think the point of the article is that we need to change what we think of as a 'victory' in Afghanistan. The Iraqi model (military victory, establishment of a strong central government, rebuilding infrastructure, etc) isn't going to apply there. The dynamics of the country of Afghanistan, which is much more deeply divided religiously and culturally than Iraq, will prevent that sort of 'solution' from ever working there. What I got from the article is that recognition of those facts, and applying something that will work and equate to something that at least resembles a stable country rather than Somalia II. *If* it works, it would be a satisfactory conclusion. Hey at this point it's not like Obama is doing much else right, it doesn't hurt to throw this out there...

 

KARIKYNA

9:27 PM ET

October 28, 2011

No such thing as "victory"

Actually, TRC6111 -

You need to stop thinking that there is even a possibility of victory by any means at all. Afghanistan wasn't stable when we got there, and it won't be stable when we leave. If the schmuck who wrote this article hadn't derailed us by forcing us into Iraq, maybe we could have had a chance at lifting up the Afghan people. Don't you think that the failures of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz administration has sufficiently humbled our sorry American asses by now? Time to stop thinking we know everything and can force other countries and cultures to behave like us.

Shame on you, FP, for allowing Wolfowitz a platform. No one should even take what he says with a grain of salt - just tell him to shut the hell up before he finishes his first sentence.

 

SUSANSUNFLOWER

6:52 PM ET

October 29, 2011

the Colombians were caught between the drug trade and the govmt.

the Afghans are caught between the drug trade, the war lord, the taliban, the government and the NATO coalition ... the alliances between any of these entities are "under the table" ... None of this is doing much at all wrt improving the quality of life for Afghans in at least 90% of the country ...

We have not even solved the very real problem of food insecurity. Our hydroelectric project did finally go on-line but I've seen little crowing about the effects of this vastly expensive, terribly important success ... particularly with regard to deforestation and the misery of long cold winters, particularly brutal even deadly for the malnourished and/or underfed.

Plan Colombia brought great misery and insecurity to the people of Colombia, particularly the poor of rural Colombia ... if the intention was to reduce supply to the streets or America or raise the prices (to limit the use) ... as far as I am aware "fail" ..

Rather like the successful twarting of air-smuggling which I have recently read was the "change" that resulted in the rise of Mexican drug cartels ...

The United States of America deserves better more creative "solutions" ... the rest of the world will adapt when our overwhelming "demand" subsides ...

 

MARTY MARTEL

1:55 PM ET

October 28, 2011

U. S. has been doomed to fail in Afghanistan from day one

U. S. has been doomed to fail in Afghanistan from day one
U. S. has been doomed to fail in Afghanistan from day one regardless of any number of plans for success.

The seeds of the ‘current Afghan tragedy’ were sowed in Washington when Bush administration decided to allow Musharraf to spirit away by airlift hundreds, if not thousands, of Taliban operatives cornered by the advancing Northern Alliance in Kunduz in November, 2001. Pakistan relocated those Taliban cadres including Mullah Mohammed Omar to Quetta, the provincial capital of Baluchistan (now relocated to Karachi by Pakistani ISI to protect them from possible US drone attacks) and Haqqani network (HQN) to North Waziristan from where Mullah Omar’s QST and Haqqani’s HQN have been planning raids in Afghanistan ever since.

U. S. has deliberately deluded itself about Afghan Taliban’s Pakistani connections in fueling and sustaining Afghan insurgency as reported by Matt Waldman in ‘The sun in the sky‘ on 6/13/2010, corroborated by WikiLeaks leaks on 7/25/2010 and then further corroborated by Chris Alexander, Canadian ambassador to Afghanistan from 2003 to 2005 and Deputy Special Representative of the UN Secretary-General for Afghanistan from 2005 until 2009 in his article on 7/30/2010 titled ‘The huge scale of Pakistan‘s complicity‘.

Duplicitous Pakistan has U. S. under the barrel of a gun - US can NOT use its aid leverage to force Pakistan to stop supporting terrorist groups who kill US/NATO troops in Afghanistan day in and day out since 2001 because US needs Pakistan’s help in ferrying supplies to those very US/NATO troops.

U. S. deserves to be duped by Pakistan for intentionally ignoring Pakistani State’s double game of running with the ‘terrorist hares’ while hunting with the ‘American hounds’.

 

MARKPEAR22

5:55 PM ET

October 28, 2011

So if Karzai is Afghanistan's

So if Karzai is Afghanistan's Pastrana... who is its Uribe and for what reason does Wolfowitz think that such a strong partner would be elected? More importantly, I suggest that the good Dr. look at the Andean coca cultivation figures... we may have enjoyed a level of success in Colombia, but we still want our delicious drugs. So we price cultivation out of Colombia and (back) into Bolivia and Peru. I hope we're all keeping score of who is championing Plan Colombia as a success, if the Shining Path reconstitutes (as I believe they will) those "analysts" should be made to answer for their absurd supply-side solutions to demand-driven problem.

 

WINSKI

9:50 PM ET

October 28, 2011

Clowns at the wheel....

WHAT ARE YOU CLOWNS DOING??

Wolfowitz and O'hanlon, two of the biggest serial liars on earth, writing a piece in Foreign Policy magazine? On Afghanistan? Are you people insane?

If anyone in their right minds reads this, it wouldn't surprise me if all of FP Magazine aren't laughed out of their neighborhoods and scorned with the disdain most humans show toward maggots. Wolfowitz, O'Hanlon and many of the clowns that were in the US government in the early 21st century should actually be doing prison time for treason, not writing position papers in a now discredited rag like FP.

 

RONWAGGS

12:08 AM ET

October 29, 2011

Really!?

Wolfowitz and O'Hanlon?

Just new to your magazine and I find that you decided to have these two morons comment on war!? Really? These two buffoons have never, ever, ever been right on anything having to do with foreign policy in general and war specifically.

Please. If you must allow Wolfowitz to comment on anything allow him to comment on subjects he clearly knows, like how much grease to put in ones hair or how to dress in a crumby suit in order to give the impression that one works as an embalmer. But not war!

Shame on both of them! But mostly, shame on you!

 

RICK GOLUB

9:33 AM ET

October 29, 2011

why wolfawitz

Since Paul is and has been wrong about just about everything, why are you allowing him to post in your magazine. You are damaging your credibility.

 

PAULOFELORA

11:08 AM ET

October 29, 2011

People are still listening to Paul Wolfowitz? No Way!

You know, in the end, it really doesn't matter whether Wolfowitz is a complete fool, or a complete villain. His opinions about the world carry as much weight as the average incoherent wino.

 

SEYHAN

9:39 AM ET

November 18, 2011

It's true

Its true Wolfowitz a complete idiot and a very bad man, his views do not agree kanal d oyunları

 

HB209

2:38 PM ET

November 26, 2011

These wars we're in over

These wars we're in over there are not winnable. You can just keep it contained but only for as long as we are there. As soon as we leave within a couple years or so it's back to the same thing. There's waaaaay too many determined and suicidal extremists. pajama jeans for men sylvania android tablet

 

BING520

12:16 PM ET

October 29, 2011

A difficult article

It is rather difficult to me to comprehend what WOLFOWITZ & O'HANLON recommend.

At the beginning they say that Afghanistan has not been and is not like Iraq whose central government can effectively control its country so that we should settle for a weak central government with regional power centers in Afghanistan. Did he forget that Afghanistan was united under a central government which happened to be Taliban, which defeated all other warring parties to unite? How can balance of power be achieved and maintained with multiple power centers in Afghanistan? How can we prevent Taliban from coming into power after we leave?

WOLFOWITZ & O'HANLON conclude that we must spend billions of dollars after we leave to train Afghan military and strengthen democracy. We have been there for 10 years and fail to strengthen democracy and properly train the military. Are we going to achieve the two missions by throwing dollars at them after our departure? To whom the army should be loyal without a strong central government? An army comprised of a single tribe would be a tool of oppression against other tribes. An army comprised of multiple tribes without a strong central government would fight among themselves.

Why didn’t WOLFOWITZ & O'HANLON cogitate how to defeat Taliban? That’s our goal.

Why use Iraq and Colombia as a model for strategic thinking? There are no Talibans in either countries.

 

BRUCELEE2

1:15 PM ET

October 29, 2011

Don't Underestimate Wolfowitz's Ignorance

Here is what Wolfowitz said during an interview by Vanity Fair in July 2003: "That second issue about links to terrorism is the one about which there's the most disagreement within the bureaucracy, even though I think everyone agrees that we killed 100 or so of an al Qaeda group in northern Iraq in this recent go-around, that we've arrested that al Qaeda guy in Baghdad who was connected to this guy Zarqawi whom Powell spoke about in his UN presentation."

He claimed terrorists were in Iraq in 2003 and used that as an additional justification for the war. He probably still believes that al Qaeda are in Iraq and Columbia today. Wolfowitz fabricates information to support his warped view of how the world works.

Earlier in 2003 he had said in an interview that the intelligence community was in 100% agreement that Sadam had weapons of mass destruction. By the time of this interview our troops had been searching for several months and were unable to find any evidence of WMD, so Wolfowitz was backing off from that claim in the July interview and saying that the presence of al Qaeda (subsequently discredited) and the fact that Sadam had mistreated his population were the justification for our going to war in Iraq.

This is the last time I intend to refer to this dangerous nut.

 

DJBALL

1:05 PM ET

October 29, 2011

Paul Wolfowitz is garbage

Paul Wolfowitz should never be allowed to talk about foreign policy ever again unless it's on the Defense Stand at The Hague.

Who are you kidding ?

This neo-con traitor and his cabal of bloodthirsty chickenhawks are directly t blame for the demise of the USA and endless war.

I'm disappointed that FP would give this clown a venue to give his worthless opinion. He's proven to be WRONG about almost everything war related, his miscalculation in Iraq resulting in hundreds of thousands of dead civilians and thousands of dead US soldiers.

Paul Wolfowitz should be in hiding filling his diaper as Special Forces hunt him down.

 

JEFF H IN TX

3:59 PM ET

October 29, 2011

How many kinds of wrong are there?

Enough to fill an oil tanker if you are talking to Paul Wolfowitz.
He's wrong, he's always wrong, he's always BEEN wrong.
He's R-O-N-G wrong, he's fractally wrong, he is wrong with a recklessness that suggests an ego and an arrogance bordering on DSM IV classification for narcissistic behavior.
He is Wrong Way Corrigan wrong, he's red wire connected to black terminal wrong, he's douching with Listerine wrong, he's the kind of wrong you think of when you see very old fat men walking arm in arm with pre-teen prostitutes in public wrong, he's "marrying your sister" wrong.

 

MESOSCOPE

4:02 PM ET

October 29, 2011

Totally rubbish

So what is the solution to the war in Afghanistan? More war??? And by the way, the Iraq war is still going on, the country is economically and socially ruined and the Iraqi people are still suffering, as they will for decades to come because of terrible decisions made by the likes of Wolfowitz. Only a half-wit demagogue would call that success! And the U.S. hasn't benefited - Iraqi oil contracts went to European and Asian companies :)

 

SYED

7:30 PM ET

October 29, 2011

Plan Afghanistan

Do we have to listen to this looser Wolfawitz again. I'm really surprised at his gall. Isn't he the guy who prophicied that 'Iraqis will welcome the American troops with flowers'. He is truly an Isreali agent, faithful to that country. Why does'nt he settle there and advise them.

 

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6:33 PM ET

November 21, 2011

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OLDYELLER9997

9:16 AM ET

October 30, 2011

I was trying to make up my mind what I thought about your mag

And publishing this tripe from these 2 losers just helped me decide! THANKS!

 

SUPERSTEVO

9:18 AM ET

October 30, 2011

literally, wrong on everything

I understand that FP is trying to make money by having contreversial opinion articles, but seriously, WOLFOWITZ!! The man is, literally, wrong on everything.

Iraq war will pay for itself, WMD will be found in Iraq, US will be welcomed as liberators, and the predictions just keep on coming out wrong. Why did FP give this joke a platform to write. He needs to find a new job.

 

DAVID GONZALES

1:18 PM ET

October 30, 2011

Wolfowitz??

I was shocked to see Paul Wolfowitz' name. It's incredible that he still has the nerve to say anything on foreign policy and expect to be taken seriously (i.e. the Fiasco in Iraq)

 

MIDTOWN88

4:04 PM ET

October 30, 2011

FP, you should be ashamed of yourself, unless your purpose....

was to shame these two bastards by producing the reactions this idiotic piece has produced. (Rachel Maddow's rant was priceless.)

Why don't you ask Elliott Abrams (or his classy wife Rachel) and Dennis Ross to write up Plan Iran?

 

JIMMY5FINGERS

2:07 PM ET

October 31, 2011

WOLFOWITZ ... Really??

This idiot has nothing of value to add to any discussion. His previous opinions about Iraq and Afghanistan have been dismally WRONG! He is nothing but a mouthpiece for war criminals GW Bush, Carl Rove and Dick Cheney. Shame on FP for devoting any space to this war mongering lunatic.

 

DICKERSON3870

2:52 PM ET

October 31, 2011

Wolfowitz's "Plan Afghanistan"

RE: "Strange though it may sound, success in Afghanistan would look a lot more like the success that has been achieved in Colombia over the last 10 years..." ~ Wolfowitz

FROM WIKIPEDIA:

The United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia, or AUC, in Spanish) was created as an umbrella organization of regional far-right[1] paramilitary groups in Colombia, each intending to protect different local economic, social and political interests by fighting left-wing insurgents in their areas. It is estimated that it has more than 31,000 militants. The AUC has been designated a terrorist organization by many countries and organizations, including the United States[2] and the European Union. The organization was formed in April 1997 and was supported by the Colombian government.[3]
The AUC claimed its primary objective was to protect its sponsors and its supporters from insurgents and their activities, because the Colombian state had historically failed to do so. The AUC asserted itself as a regional and national counter-insurgency force. Former AUC leader Carlos Castaño Gil in 2000 claimed 70 percent of the AUC's operational costs were financed with cocaine-related earnings, the rest coming from "donations" from its sponsors. The group's sponsors have included landowners, cattle ranchers, mining or petroleum companies and politicians.[4] The AUC has also been linked to elements within the Colombian Army with whom they maintained cooperation, including their participation in joint operatives. The Colombian military has been accused of delegating to AUC paramilitaries the task of murdering peasants and labor union leaders, among others, targeted by the group under the suspicion of allegedly being guerrilla infiltrators...
SOURCE - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Self-Defense_Forces_of_Colombia

 

DICKERSON3870

5:20 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Wolfowitz's "Plan Afghanistan"

RE: "Strange though it may sound, success in Afghanistan would look a lot more like the success that has been achieved in Colombia over the last 10 years..." ~ Wolfowitz & O'Hanlon

SEE: Colombia president dissolves disgraced DAS domestic spy agency, shifts staff to other offices, By Associated Press, 10/31/11

The agency was caught spying on presidential foes including judges, reporters and human rights activists during the 2002-2010 administration of Santos’ predecessor, Alvaro Uribe, Washington’s closest ally in the region at the time.
Some DAS agents and officials also colluded with extreme-right militias that killed and displaced thousands and persecuted labor activists.
Uribe’s first DAS chief, Jorge Noguera, was convicted last month of murder in the 2004 death squad killing of a left-wing university professor.

A later DAS director, Maria del Pilar Hurtado, obtained political asylum in Panama with Uribe’s help to avoid a fate similar to Uribe’s former chief of staff, Bernardo Moreno.
Moreno was jailed in July pending trial on criminal conspiracy charges for allegedly ordering illegal espionage. He says he is innocent...

SOURCE - http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/americas/colombia-president-dissolves-disgraced-das-domestic-spy-agency-shifts-staff-to-other-offices/2011/10/31/gIQA3KNWaM_story.html

 

DAKOTA1000

3:08 PM ET

October 31, 2011

Wolfowitz & O'Hanlon

I am shocked that an organization such as FP would continue supporting two of the dumbest individuals walking the planet. They are failures in the eyes of the American public, conservatives and most clear minded humans. These two were primaries in the worlds largest bungled operations known to any warriors. Both of them should be banned from any publication other than promoting Israel which is their primary interest. Idiots. STFU!

 

DICKERSON3870

3:39 PM ET

October 31, 2011

Wolfowitz's "Plan Afghanistan"

RE: "Strange though it may sound, success in Afghanistan would look a lot more like the success that has been achieved in Colombia over the last 10 years..." ~ Wolfowitz & O'Hanlon

SEE: "False-positives" scandal in Colombia widens, By John Otis, Global Post, 10/21/10

(excerpts) BOGOTA, Colombia — The widening “false positives” scandal stands as gruesome evidence of the price that’s been paid for success in Colombia’s guerrilla war...
A total of 3,822 army officers and foot soldiers have now been accused in a conspiracy to murder civilians and disguise them as guerrillas killed in action. The homicides first came to light in 2008 and since then, more and more cadavers have been dug up.
The body count has now reached an astounding 2,445. The dead include 126 minors.
But what motivated the troops to target these innocent and often impoverished noncombatants, the very people whose hearts and minds the government must win in order to defeat the FARC? A report released this week by the Colombia Inspector General’s office, the entity charged with investigating government abuses, provides some clues.
The report refers to one of the original cases in which the bodies of two young men from the Bogota slum of Soacha were discovered in northern Colombia in an unmarked grave dressed in rebel uniforms. An army colonel and some of his troops conspired to kill them and cover up the crime because their brigade had been relatively inactive, the report says. But like many military units across Colombia, it says, this brigade came under intense pressure from top officers to demonstrate success on the battlefield.
And of course, these top military officers were being pushed to show results by then-President Alvaro Uribe
, who had vowed to destroy the FARC...

SOURCE - http://www.globalpost.com/notebook/colombia/101021/false-positives-scandal-colombia-widens

 

LINDA M FARLAND

3:50 PM ET

November 10, 2011

The Common Agenda

War and terrorists have now become a very common agenda in every government’s internal and external policy. The attack that somehow triggered the entire world of the existence of such criminal minds happened 10 years ago with the bombing of the twin towers on Sept. 11, 2001. That scenario led to the massive counter terrorist plans of many worldwide leaders and organizations.

The first target of the anti-terrorist campaign was the Taliban in Afghanistan. Several troops of American and non-American soldiers were sent to the place to help achieve the goal of putting a stop to their growing security threat to the peace and order situation in the world. But where did this lead us? Many families were left behind by brave soldiers who were willing to risk their lives for their belief in maintaining peace, and the wealthy affiliates of these people don't even appreciate it. Many mothers have lost sons, sons losing their fathers, wives losing their husbands, brothers losing their brothers and sisters losing their fathers and brothers in the ongoing battle. Too much blood was shed in that cause but do we see any success?
It might sound like the Americans have won because they have killed a number of Taliban forces but do they not know that these insurgents have also their own beliefs on which they stand for and are willing to stake their lives.

Imagine the families – the mothers, fathers, brothers, wives and children that they would also leave behind in their deaths? How long will this battle for supremacy and control last? The only winners in this game would be the conspirators who are selling armaments and weapons for the sake of bigger profit and a possible share in the control of whoever would be declared the winner of the fight. I believe there is a conspiracy behind illegal trade offs of weapons in order to not cease the raging conflicts.

It is not often a simple quest to answer who is supposed to win or doba who is in the right and who is in the wrong because in the end what will matter will be the people left behind to lament on the loss of their beloved families. Each country would have a reason to fight for more and battle to avenge the deaths of their brothers and colleagues in the cause for freedom and justice. It would just become a never ending cycle of violence because we failed to give the right resolution in solving the conflict.

War is never an answer and the President’s decision to pull out the American troops in both Afghanistan and Iraq might just be a beginning for a more peaceful negotiation. It would somehow open the door to a more positive outlook than dwelling on the thought of eradicating these insurgents because after all they are as human as we are and they also have the right to live as much as we do. We just have to look into the deeper reason why their way of thinking might have been twisted to accept another different truth.

 

LISAJANE64

9:44 PM ET

November 17, 2011

A Wolf in Wolf's Clothing

Foreign Policy magazine, why have you sunk so low? You want people to believe that the great economic charlatan and architect of the Iraq war Paul Wolfowitz has any credibility left regarding US foreign policy?

Come on, folks. You can do a lot better than this.

Learn more about Wolfowitz here: http://youtu.be/3jrgUV5VEEo

Wake up people!
Lisa O.

 

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November 21, 2011

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DOMINOES

6:40 PM ET

November 24, 2011

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PRELIOCIVEDE

1:19 PM ET

November 25, 2011

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Hey, I am Colombian and I have lived first hand what my country was 10 years ago and where we are now... you might say? whatever the fuck you want about the US but guess what, we Colombians are glad that the US is helping us because thanks to their training and our military we have been able beat that crap out of the william hill guerrilla forces... call it whatever you want but COLOMBIA is a better place today...

 

DELLACARR

11:53 PM ET

November 26, 2011

for as long as people are wrapped up

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MICHEALJSAM

11:55 PM ET

November 26, 2011

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