China’s Iranian Gambit

Beijing is using the Islamic Republic to foil American interests in the Middle East. It's time we wised up to this dangerous game.

BY MICHAEL SINGH, JACQUELINE NEWMYER DEAL | OCTOBER 31, 2011

The elections in Tunisia and the dramatic demise of former Libyan leader Muammar al-Qaddafi have pushed the allegations of an Iran-sponsored plot to assassinate the Saudi envoy to Washington on U.S. soil from the headlines. But countering Iran's efforts to develop a nuclear weapon and exploit the tumult in the Arab world for its own gain is vital to securing U.S. interests in a rapidly changing Middle East, and remains an urgent priority of U.S. diplomacy around the world.

Inevitably, efforts to isolate Iran will refocus Washington and Europe's attention on Beijing. Past attempts to persuade China to support new measures against Tehran -- or even robust enforcement of existing ones -- have met with little success, in large part due to a misunderstanding of Chinese motivations. Whereas Washington tends to see Beijing as torn between conflicting priorities, Chinese strategists see the Islamic Republic as a potential partner in their strategic rivalry with the United States. Unless Beijing can be convinced that the costs of obstructing U.S. efforts on Iran outweigh the benefits of doing so, the Chinese will be of little help. Shifting China's calculus in this manner ultimately requires that the United States develop a credible military option to neutralize Iran's nuclear-weapons aims.

For three decades, U.S. diplomats have failed to secure real Chinese cooperation in their efforts to prevent Iran from going nuclear. Although Beijing has formally supported U.N. Security Council sanctions resolutions against Iran since 2005, it has at the same time actively undermined those measures by watering them down in council deliberations and then implementing them only weakly and unevenly. According to the Washington Post, a senior U.S. official handed over to his Chinese counterparts in October 2010 a "significant list" of Chinese firms thought to be aiding Iranian proliferation in violation of U.N. sanctions.

The effects are pernicious. Increasing Chinese trade with Iran -- projected to reach $40 billion in 2011, up from $30 billion last year, according to the Chinese ambassador to Iran -- eases the pressure on Tehran and provides the Iranian regime with revenue, expertise, and other resources. It also leads to howls of protest by European and Asian firms that have curtailed their business with Iran only to see it backfilled by Chinese competitors.

Chinese trade with Iran is driven in large part by Beijing's growing need for energy imports, and its desire to secure them by participating in oil and gas exploration, development, and other "upstream" activities of its overseas energy suppliers. Indeed, from a security perspective, Iran's geographic position is unique -- it is the only Gulf supplier that China can reach by both pipelines and sea routes. This diversification of supply lines helps reassure those in Beijing who most fear a foreign interdiction campaign or blockade that would cut China off from its energy supplies.

ATTA KENARE/AFP/Getty Images

 

Michael Singh is managing director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and served on the National Security Council staff from 2005 to 2008. Jacqueline Newmyer Deal is president of the Long Term Strategy Group, a defense research firm in Cambridge, Mass., and a senior fellow of the Foreign Policy Research Institute.

TARQUINIS

6:54 PM ET

October 31, 2011

China is aware of its interests; So is Iran

A brief reminder of what Iran endured in recent history, while having undertaken no aggressive war in several centuries:

- Invasion by Russia and Britain in 1914-1918 ostensibly to secure Iran's oil fields

- Invasion again by Russia and Britain in 1941 to take over Iranian oil fields

- Democratic Government overthrown by US in CIA Operation Ajax, 1953: US puts hated Shah back on the throne from his then current exile:

-France reneges on nuclear power contracts despite NPT obligations 1979

- Invasion by Iraq – up to 500,000s killed by Iraq, West helps Iraq, 1980: Rumsfield goes to Iraq to shake Saddam’s hand in well-known picture

-Chemical weapons attack by Iraq and the west remains silent, 1980 onwards

- US kills 290 Iranian civilians when a US naval ship, in Iranian waters, shoots down an Iranian passenger plane. The US awards medals to those who killed the Iranian civilians. 1988

-US shelters thousands of Iranian MEK terrorists in Iraq and allows them to operate against Iran, 2003 onwards

-Nuclear weapon neighbors tolerated or abetted: Russia, and non-NPT states Israel, India, Pakistan

-Major US armies and air forces currently based on their east and west frontiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, and powerful US naval forces in the Persian Gulf (Bahrain)

-Threat of direct nuclear attack by Israel:

And for clarity sake, and for the umpteenth time, Ahmadinejad is entirely and purposefully misquoted in that Israel should be wiped off the map.

What he said in accurate translation was this: ""The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time". The point being that it is an unjust and Apartheid régime. Like Apartheid South Africa or the communist Soviet Union.

 

CHARLESFRITH

9:33 PM ET

October 31, 2011

Excellent

Comment.

 

BING520

11:41 PM ET

October 31, 2011

Attack

I read Iran threatened to attack Israel with nuclear weapon once Iran acquired the weapon. Am I right?

Anyone who is an enemy of Israel is an enemy of the US. We are not going to chang that position whether it is right or wrong.

I am looking forward to the moment when we find Egyptians and Iraqis are our enemies again.

 

TC1

2:44 PM ET

November 1, 2011

"Ostensibly"

'Invasion by Russia and Britain in 1914-1918 ostensibly to secure Iran's oil fields'

What else could they have possibly wanted in Iran?

 

MIDTOWN88

9:15 AM ET

November 4, 2011

Mr. Singh of WINEP, and Ms Newmeyer Deal of LSTG and FRPI

MICHAEL SINGH and JACQUELINE NEWMYER DEAL are sabre-rattling for Israel. Check their parent organizations and bonafides.

The Chinese aren't that stupid, and the idea that the US should go to war against Iran (for itself or Israel) is insane, unless of course it's Israel's purpose to destroy the US.

 

MANDREWSF

8:18 PM ET

October 31, 2011

Enlighten me...

...as to why China must change its Middle East policy if "its current approach... has done much to increase China's access to energy supplies, boost its influence in a strategic region, and frustrate American ambitions in the Middle East."

 

BING520

10:52 PM ET

October 31, 2011

military solution

MICHAEL SINGH & JACQUELINE NEWMYER DEAL focus primarily on a military solution. The premise is that if we demonstrate convincingly our readiness and commitment to attacking Iran militarily, Iran might back down and China would think twice before continuing t support Iran.

If I were a Chinese long-term planner, I would let the US attack Iran. After the attack, Iran would be more likely to re-arm and offer better terms to form a strategic partner. In spite of some short-term setbacks, China would gain more influence and better terms from Iran.

Unless the US decide occupy Iran and rebuid the nation.

If the US were not to occupy Iran, the adverse risk would be a temporary disruption f oil supply from Iran.

At this moment, China will not challenge the US for many years to come. The US is less likely to isolate China or attack China. I would be more than happy to see Americans start another war with one more Islamic country.

 

RAPH852

9:47 PM ET

November 1, 2011

"I would be more than happy

"I would be more than happy to see Americans start another war with one more Islamic country."

what the fuck is wrong with you

 

MIDTOWN88

9:19 AM ET

November 4, 2011

Thanks for the chuckle

"Unless the US decides to occupy Iran and rebuild the nation."

The US can't even rebuild its own nation. Israeli issues are occupying our congressmen's time these days to the point where the US has let our horrific problems slide. The real danger to the US is not China/Iran or their interests, it's Israel.

 

STRIVER

5:08 AM ET

November 1, 2011

Take Lessons....

....from China on HOW TO MAKE FRIENDS

Israel/US only know HOW TO MAKE ENEMIES AND PRETEND TO BE INNOCENT VICTIMS.

 

KARENYKARL

8:03 AM ET

November 1, 2011

The author does not recognize some key variables.

One is that China has, and always will, act in its own self interest as far as acquiring the raw materials necessary to its economy. When the United States fails to realize this, particularly in context with globalization and free trade, its response has always been to resort to military analysis and options. Maybe this is bred into the US bone by our heroin-like dependence on defense contracts.

Thus, both the author and the US are guilty of putting forward faulty analyses of what the most appropriate response we should take towards the tacit Chinese support for the proliferation of nuclear weapons in North Korea and Iran.

China believes strongly in the balance of power concept of international relations. As such, it's encouraging spheres of influence, mostly economically to every country and region that surrounds it.

In the age of declining empire, it would behoove the United States very well to openly recognize the respect it has for the balance of power philosophy in this context. And we would recognize of peacefully cultivating our circles of positive development to our internal, rather than military needs.

 

PROCIVIC

8:06 AM ET

November 1, 2011

No surprises here

Predictable stuff. The '50s and '60s are over; WINEP and other fronts for Israeli propaganda have been outed.

 

MBL740

10:40 AM ET

November 1, 2011

No surprises here

It is fascinating to see that people who foam at the mouth about Jews and Israel read this web site. You would think that a 4 page story about China, Iran, and the USA would only attract those interested in the topic. Nope. There you are seeing Jews and Israel behind EVERY story and action EVERYWHERE. Do you sleep with a light on at night with a piece of bacon by your bedside to scare away all those Jews/Israelis/Zionists in your closet? Take a pill. Get some rest. You need it.

 

FRISBEETARIAN

9:06 PM ET

November 29, 2011

Love how you cram religion

Love how you cram religion into this. His comment was directed at Israel and Israel only. You only become more and more pathetic whenever you use the racism card to give your empty argument a pit of leverage.

 

KUNINO

10:53 AM ET

November 1, 2011

Comes the hour, comes the nitwits

The Newmyer-Singh prescription in the current American military-industrial dark hour is for a larger investment in weapons and military readiness rather than a smaller one. Phew, that was a close one. Given the terrific news that America no longer needs to operate an expensive force in Iraq and that America is being forced to recognize that it's not doing all that well in Afghhanistan, these two writers step forward to present a new target -- in fact, two new targets, China and Iran -- and with them the new need to spend up big on preparing to intimidate both by, among other things, spending staggering sums of cash while frightening the citizens of those two foreign nations.

The authors support their master plan by the currently fashionable ancillary of pointing to a situation the authors don't like and say it's created or worsened by Obama, rather than one that any American president under present or near-future circumstances must face -- and not necessarily by juicing the military budget. This name-calling is akin to describing World War II as Roosevelt's rather than America's; it seems senseless.

What Singh-Newmayr seem to want is someone new to hate. We have current evidence that this is a great way to create a foreign monster. The current mills of hatred grind on about Gaddafi as though he came to power 42 years ago as a murderous monster and stayed one for the rest of his rule. This clearly is not true. he came to power in a bloodless coup and was a ruler beneficent to his people although not to foreign (ie, European and American) oil companies in his early years. He moved to tyranny after years of direct threat to his government and himself personally from shareholder nations of those oil companies. Plans for these threats were afoot within a few weeks of his coup.

It's not yet clear how Newmayr-Singh believe all this extra money they want spent on preparing attack or insult to a Tom Clancy-style Chinese-Iranian semi-alliance without raising any American taxes. I'm pretty confident the authors could explain that miracle if pressed.

 

MIDTOWN88

9:23 AM ET

November 4, 2011

Kunino

The authors need jobs.

 

XTIANGODLOKI

12:22 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Your typical defense lobbyists talking points

According to these guys China is the biggest threat to a stable Mideast, and the best way to stabilize the region is to invade Iran. So if the US is going to attack Iran as the author suggests, will we be financing this war with additional taxation (unlikely), or with more money borrowed from China?

 

CATARINAALEXON

12:25 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Saudi offered China oil at lower prices

Riyadh this year offered to supply China with substantial amounts of oil at lower prices than Iran. Not sure what happened to that and why it wasn't mentioned in this article. Would be much better to have China relying on Saudi oil than Iranian.

 

INJUN_NC

1:58 PM ET

November 1, 2011

What an idiotic article....

Can't believe such dribble is allowed to be printed here. Even more incredible is that someone with an Indian last name (Singh) could make such a clumsy case for us to attack Iran. Wouldn't be surprised if this crude exercise on his part is to curry favor with the NeoCons and/or the power elite.

All the proponents of this belligerence should answer the following questions for us before getting our backing (and tax dollars) to wage another self-destruction war:

Question 1: What has Iran done to us that warrants us to attack it?

Question 2: Even if we assume Iran is a screw-driver's turn away from making a nuclear bomb, what would motivate it to commit suicide?

Question 3: To further belabor this point, let's take a leap of faith and believe the likes of Fox News that Iran has a 'death-wish'. Does Iran have the means to deliver their nuclear device to our shores?

Question 4: Given all that, why should we play a game of "chess" with China to get Iran in line? Do we want to try to bully a nation of 1.3 Billion people (and an emerging Super Power) on behalf of Israel -- a squatter country of a few million that is also a pariah in the World? If yes, what do we get in return from Israel? A bunch of Banksters and crooks who, when (and if) finally caught would seek sanctuary there without fear of extradition?

Shame on Singh et al. If he truly is an Indian (and not masquerading as one) -- he should go back and re-acquaint himself with the traditions of that country before embarrassing himself like this again. What a fool.....

 

HURRICANEWARNING

3:25 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Interesting questions

In response to Q1: Iran has done LOTS to us to warrant an armed response, MANY times over. Granted, almost all those actions were taken by Hezbollah or Qods force operatives so as to obscure Irans hand, but it's clear that neither of those organizations operates against the US without Tehrans explicit say so. So lets go back to the 80's: Beirut Embassy bombing, Marine Barracks bombing, kidnapping and killing of CIA station chief William buckley, Airline Hijackings, bombing of the Khobar towers in saudi Arabia, creation of EFP's in Iraq, extensive support and training, and combat leading of militants fighting against US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, the murder/ kidnapping of US soldiers and operatives in Iraq by members of the Qods force, the safe housing of Osama Bin Ladens son who would have had valuable intel to help find his father...the list goes on. We havent had an enemy like this (clandestine/ covert ops) since the Soviet Union. Honestly, if we have a true nation state enemy in the world it IS Iran. And just so you know, China aint to far off either. Oh, and before you write anything, you should know that I don't care what the US has done to Iran because that doesnt matter. international relations isn't a feel good game, we have hurt Iran, and Iran has hurt us...we are now "enemies" until it no longer suits us to be so.

 

INJUN_NC

11:27 AM ET

November 2, 2011

Ah! Time to cite the 'pebble and the cow-dung' parable

To argue on a rational basis with representatives of interest groups that 'HURRICANEWARNING' seems to be a member of would be like tossing a pebble in cow-dung. It doesn't do anything to the cow-dung -- but it can splatter the fecal matter on you. So, rather than get drawn into rebutting his silly assertions (that even he admits are a stretch when he writes: "Granted, almost all those actions were taken by Hezbollah or Qods force operatives so as to obscure Irans hand, but it's clear that neither of those organizations operates against the US without Tehrans explicit say so."), I will leave him and his fellow chicken-hawks to stew in their own diabolic juices. I am so thrilled to see our military leaders continue to thwart these guys' belligerent wet dreams to spill more American blood for an alien nation founded on a fairytale. Thank "God" for that (metaphorically speaking, of course -- as I am an atheist).

But I will leave honest and curious with these thoughts:

1) If we were to go by this warmonger's arguments....Pakistan should have been invaded by us about five years ago. After all, they have (and continue to) harm us and our interests in myriad ways that are far more damaging than anything Iran might have done. So, why is Pakistan not a greater enemy than Iran?

2) Would Hezbollah even come into existence if not for Israel's multiple invasions/incursions of Southern Lebanon -- their homeland? Could any self-respecting people lie down and let invaders walk all over them without resisting?

3) Remember lies about the WMDs? No difference here. Example: citation of Khobar Towers incident by HURRICANEWARNING. Fact: that has been proven to be the handiwork of Saudi fundamentalist dissidents who object our presence in their country . Most were arrested and paid with their heads (literally). Pinning that on Hezbollah to make a case for another war with a nation that had nothing to do with it is from the same NeoCon playbook that has been long discredited.

Once Bitten, Twice Shy!

 

WICKBAM

2:19 PM ET

November 1, 2011

obviously he's Indian-American

He worked for the NSC.

And perhaps the Iranians would be kind enough to return the Peacock Throne? They don't really need it, do they?

 

INJUN_NC

2:36 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Singh, NSC, and the Peacock Throne....

Wickbam,

About this Singh guy having worked for the NSC. Thanks for pointing that out. It suddenly explained his touting. In contemporary US of A, there is no room for intellectually honest people in such outfits. And his co-writer turns out to be associated with some routine foreign policy 'think tank' fronts. The price of admission there is your soul -- that is, if you are not of the same feathers.

Moving on to the Peacock Throne. It is the Turks who should be asked to return it. They stole the stolen from the Persians soon after Nadir Shah died. It is now safely ensconced in the TopKapi museum in Istanbul (nee Constantinople) along side Prophet Mohammad's sword. Have seen it with my very own eyes. Unless, of course, that is a copy claiming to be the real thing....like this Singh dude.

 

THE MIGHTY CYNIC

2:21 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Will the authors send their children to fight for Israel?

This article inverts the truth in several ways.

(1) It's the PERSIAN Gulf. Get it right, or you won't be taken seriously.

(2) Iran is fully compliant with the NPT and JUST TODAY passed a UN resolution endorsed by it that demanded Israel and the US follow the demands at the last 3 NPT conferences: (a) Israel must come clean about its nukes; (b) sign the NPT treaty; (c) and America must seriously adhere to the disarmament pillar of the law.

(3) Israel's rogue nuclear arsenal is safe whereas Iran's nonexistent one is a danger. An apartheid state that is constantly dropping bombs on a civilian Palestinian population, that was complicit in 9/11 and framed Arabs, is exceptional in this regard.

Shills.

 

PUBLICUS

8:38 AM ET

November 8, 2011

Look it up

It's increasingly been called "The Gulf" or The Arabian Gulf" for going on four score years out of deference to the sensibilities of other countries of the area. That's "The Gulf" as in the Gulf War, the Gulf Co-operation Council (GCC) Gulf Air, Gulf Daily News etc etc. Many names refer simply to "The Gulf"

Why should it be called the Persian Gulf? It's also a concern globally that, as with China's claim to sovereignty over all of the South China Sea, Iran, itself being Persian, might try the same stunt concerning the Gulf. Then we'd have two new potentionally explosive points in the world, wouldn't we?

As 140,000 km of the misnamed South China Sea border on the shorelines of ten Southeast Asian countries, while only 1700 km border the PRChina, the body of water rightfully needs the accurate name: the Southeast Asia Sea (see: Ngyen Thai Hoc Foundation).

As to the Gulf, here's the general Arab view of the name, as discussed below in this excerpt from Al-Jazeerah:

"The Dispute About the Persian/Arabian Gulf Name: How Should it Be Resolved?

"By Hassan El-Najjar and Nader Habibi

"Al-Jazeerah, February 11, 2005

"Iran has reacted angrily to a map of Persian Gulf in a recent issue of National Geographic, which showed the name ‘Arabian Gulf’ next to “Persian Gulf’ in reference to this body of water. This anger was expressed by the Iranian government and many Iranian political groups regardless of their support or opposition to the Islamic regime. The incident has also increased Iran’s sensitivity to other circumstances where Persian Gulf is referred to as ‘Arab Gulf’ or ‘Arabian Gulf’.

"While Arab countries have repeatedly used the name Arabian Gulf in the past four decades, Iran’s reaction has never been as severe as the National Geographic incident. This incident has increased Iran’s sensitivity to such a high level that it could have an adverse effect on Arab-Iranian relations. Under popular pressure, Iranian officials will have to react to any future incidents where any international organization uses the name “Arabian Gulf”.

"This will be a difficult battle for several reasons. First, as Iran shows more sensitivity to “Arabian Gulf” the Arab countries (specially the littoral states of Persian Gulf: Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE and Qatar) will react by trying harder to promote this name.

"Second, these Arab countries are gaining more economic and political significance because of their rising volume of trade and investment with rest of the world. Profit oriented institutions such as multinational oil companies frequently use the name “Arabian Gulf” to please the Arab countries and protect their interests.

"Some of these entities that want to be in good terms with both Iran and Arab countries, refer to the Persian Gulf as “the Gulf” to maintain neutrality. We can expect the Arab countries of Persian Gulf to use their rising economic power to promote the usage of ‘Arabian Gulf’."

 

MARTY MARTEL

2:48 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Singh/Deal solutions won’t change Chinese behavior

It is highly unlikely that U. S. can neutralize Iran’s nuclear program as recommended by Singh and Deal.

It is even less likely that U. S. can force China to stop helping Iran. ‘Establishing a credible threat to Iran’ recommended by Singh/Deal will not stop China-Iran alliance until U. S. literally carries out the threat by overthrowing Iranian regime.

Does U. S. have courage to do so? Not under Obama presidency who loathes starting a new war when debt-ridden U. S. is barely getting out Iraq and still very much mired in Afghanistan.

 

TC1

4:33 PM ET

November 1, 2011

China - Oil Gas

The development of China’s economy is dependent on energy imports. The import of the required energy requires either movement by sea or over land. The two obvious sources of oil/gas are Russia or the Middle East. Movement of significant oil/gas supply overland via pipeline is more economical than movement by sea.

Russia would be their logical supplier via pipeline - however Russia has proved to be unreliable due to using their supply to other countries as a strategic tool. China would need a way to offset this risk.

Import from the Middle East currently depends on sea access - the US domination of the sea routes to China’s coast means that this supply is conditional. Import from Iran, the nearest Middle East country with large supplies for sale, via pipeline requires access to Afghanistan - currently the US in the guise of ‘ISAF/NATO’ controls Afghanistan.

The ideal situation for China would to have supplies both from Iran and Russia via pipeline (A pipeline from Russia would also offer possibilities for supply to South Korea). Any motivation that China would have to facilitate nuclear weapon development in Iran (and North Korea) would, more likely than not, be decreased by this. The risk of conflict in the China Sea would also be significantly decreased if this came about.

However, where would the US be in all this ... feeling left powerless to do other than trade on a much more equal basis.

 

MIRAMARE

6:46 AM ET

November 2, 2011

USA is gambling dangerous

I think the US gambles dangerously.
Considering its wake economy and ongoing wars nobody can really trust its government.

For Iran it seems like as it was for Irak: finding out and be sure that no real threat is on its soil (what most Europeans always suspected and menawhile is well known!) and then starting a war.

As long as the US government isn't sure whether or not Iran has a real nuclear bomb or another threat to Israel as long it will wait and not start a new war again.

I think US citizen should wake up for their own sake !
To support Israel because of their lobby in USA is a dangerous undertaking.
It could cost USA more economic desaster as they even can think of.

China is aware of the flaws in US foreign politics.
And USA is so much indebted that they are - so it seems to me - thankfully being blinded by their neocons and the arrogance of its politicans.

Starting another war and feeding the necons (there are a very few who make more money if wars are going on) will not give enough jobs for the US citizen.

And concerning to Ahmadenejads speeches: it is so easy to blind people with false translation claiming this or that had been said.
There are - thankfully - other websites with independend and reliable translations.

Nowadays I think the majority of US citizen are blinded. Other countries have maybe much more exchange of informations in different languages. This counts for the Middle East and Asia.
Those parts of a continent are eager to know what is going on in other countries.
Whereas USA still supports an arrogance feeling that US citizen are on top of the world.

We shall see the outcome.
Gambling: the winnig factor could proof to be dangerous - its targeted outcome could fall back to the initiatior of the gamble itself.

miramare

 

BENN3012

8:49 AM ET

November 2, 2011

King of the Hill

The United States is becoming frustrated at the amount of effort to remain king of the hill and instead is trying to cajole its competitors into playing the crab-pot game (pulling each other back down as they attempt to rise) instead. In either case the result will be the same, erosion of the hill that is being defended as we ignore the need to tend to the high ground on which our nation was built.

 

SERAFINNUNEZ101

2:20 AM ET

November 3, 2011

China and Iran?

In order for China to move its economy further, it has to secure oil and gas. Partnering with Iran? I think it's OK. I came to this site when I was looking for portable printers review. Iran's position is indeed strategic.

 

JSONAS

12:46 PM ET

November 5, 2011

For clarity sake, and for the

For clarity sake, and for the umpteenth time, Ahmadinejad is entirely and purposefully misquoted in that Israel should be wiped off the map.

 

LOCOROCO

9:51 AM ET

November 24, 2011

I hope there isn't going to be a war

It's tragic that we are headed for war with Iran. I think we should let the country be. Althoug I don't support their leadership, of course. They're all perverts, and they're into animal porn. I still believe that it would be better to leave the country alone, like Ron Paul says. An interventionist foreign policy is not only destructive for the middle east, but for us in the west as well. We can't afford any more wars.

 

MOSES12

5:37 PM ET

November 26, 2011

Scary Duo

Talk about a crazy world that we live in, when we have to worry about 2 irrational countries like this...this is extremely unsettling and hopefully Iran will mess things up like they did with the Saudi assassination attempt, which shows their ineptitude. Time to get these people taken care....I have a friend who is an Austin wedding officiant and he lived next to the guy who was plotting to kill the Saudi Ambassador...crazy world we live in these days...to put it mildly.

 

WILLRIVERA

4:08 PM ET

November 27, 2011

More than just a business decision

Obviously, this only works so long as the US puts important on the UN. Once that disappears, China wouldn't cash to offer.

I think China's game-playing on Iran has more related to keeping the U.S. occupied/off balance than being concerned about their domestic situation. Actually, I think the content itself details perfectly why china aren't concerned about maintaining things as they are at home.

Moreover, keeping the Iranian nuclear issue in play provided possible allows China to help keep marketing towards the US like a key player, who (if sufficiently placated) might accompany US demands. It appears pretty easy: create a problem after which highlight yourself because the one who might make the problem disappear if you get something worthwhile.