China’s Fox News

Meet Global Times, the angry Chinese government mouthpiece that makes Bill O'Reilly seem fair and balanced.

BY CHRISTINA LARSON | OCTOBER 31, 2011

BEIJING – On most mornings, the senior editorial staffers at China's hyper-nationalistic Global Times newspaper flash their identification badges at the uniformed guard outside their compound in eastern Beijing and roll into the office between 9 and 10 a.m. They leave around midnight. In the hectic intervening 14 hours, they commission and edit articles and editorials on topics ranging from asserting China's unassailable claims to the South China Sea to the United States' nefarious role in the global financial crisis to the mind-boggling liquor bills of China's state-owned enterprises, to assemble a slim, 16-page tabloid with a crimson banner and eye-popping headlines. In the late afternoon, staffers propose topics for the all-important lead editorial to editor-in-chief Hu Xijin, who makes all final decisions and has an instinct for the jugular.

Take last Tuesday's saber-rattling editorial, printed with only slight variations in the Chinese and English editions, which duly unnerved many overseas readers. "Recently, both the Philippines and South Korean authorities have detained fishing boats from China, and some of those boats haven't been returned," the editorial fumed. "If these countries don't want to change their ways with China, they will need to prepare for the sounds of cannons." The war-mongering language was meant to attract attention, and that it did, with Reuters, Manila Times, Jakarta Globe, The West Australian, Taipei Times, and other overseas media referencing it in news articles. The bellicose editorial was certainly newsworthy, assuming that the paper on some level is a mouthpiece for China's rulers. But whose views, exactly, does Global Times really represent?

Its offices are located within the sprawling Haiwaiban campus of the People's Daily, the stodgy old organ of the Chinese Communist Party, founded in 1948. The People's Daily is renowned for its mastery of bore-you-to-tears bureaucratese; its turgid official profiles induce slumber in general audiences but nonetheless signal, to those in the know, whose career is on the make and whose will soon be in tatters. But while the People's Daily is the parent publishing organization of Global Times, the two newspapers have remarkably different missions. Global Times is unequivocally a state-owned paper subject to the same censorship regime, but since its founding in 1993 it has evolved a more populist function -- a mandate to attract and actually engage readers, rather than to telegraph coded intentions of the Foreign Ministry or the Organization Department, which determines all senior personnel appointments.

The dress code at the office is casual, even bedraggled; there's an air of anti-authoritarianism reminiscent of a college newspaper. The conference room is bare of decoration but for an overly ornate chandelier collecting dust. There's a feeling of chaotic energy, quite distinct from most of China's state-run newspapers, which seem indistinguishable from sleepy and polished government offices.

No one embodies the difference more than the man in charge. At 51, Hu wears his longish hair brushed forward in a vaguely hipster look; he is wiry and frenetic.

When a large group is assembled, he does most of the talking. He speaks quickly, emphatically, and chooses his words like daggers. "We call a spade as a spade," he told me when I visited recently as part of a delegation of American editors and academics. "And we are not afraid to upset you."

 SUBJECTS: CHINA, MEDIA, EAST ASIA
 

Christina Larson is a contributing editor to Foreign Policy.

JAMESLIP

9:47 PM ET

October 31, 2011

Chinese

I remember the issue with the school in Maine when Global Times was accusing one of their schools of running an out-dated school. Sounded like a story from Southpark!

Funny how those rants are taking twists and spread in the media. Great food for a journalist I guess.

Gotta say here that the Chinese language edition has been impeached of having a stiff pro-gov. slant and of attracting a severly nationalistic readers. However, the English-language version though has been reported as taking a less imperative approach.

 

RAPH852

1:20 AM ET

November 1, 2011

and?

Taken from page 4: The editorial continued: "But it is necessary to ask a question: What and who failed them? … Their formal colonizers, who now dominate the world market, told them exporting raw materials and opening up their markets to Western goods was the quickest path to prosperity. But most of their revenues ended up in the pocket of international corporations."

Is there a single thing said here that is false?

 

AGABOURY

12:49 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Straw Man

The Index doesn't delineate reasons for the inclusion of a state on the list. It merely represents the current status quo. There are many reasons why states fail, a history of colonialism being chiefly among them, but this criticism is not an argument of analysis. Its an example of getting people worked up, throwing them red meat. Just because an argument is correct in a vacuum doesn't mean that it is an appropriate response to something.

 

FSILBER

10:20 AM ET

November 3, 2011

fsilber

It's not that it's saying anything false. It's that the internal abuses and corruptions of failed states have nothing to do with the advice given to them to export raw materials or open their markets. It's as silly as accusing their former colonizers with causing their high mortality rates by advising them to get vaccinated for smallpox and polio.

 

JAC710

1:57 AM ET

November 1, 2011

Ask Alessandro

Great article, Christina. I just wish you could have done a tangent on the old "Ask Alessandro" column that Global Times used to publish. It was literally the weirdest column I have seen in any publication in the world...unbelievably racist, misogynistic, and lewd (but actually kind of funny). I would have been curious to know why they allowed it to be published in a state-run paper.

 

JAC710

2:00 AM ET

November 1, 2011

Here's a link to an old

Here's a link to an old column of his: http://beijing.globaltimes.cn/life/edu-tech/2011-04/501593.html

 

RAPH852

3:38 AM ET

November 1, 2011

makes Bill O'Reilly seem fair and balanced?

Would you mind pointing out which part of your piece makes Bill O'Reilly seem fair and balanced? As a foreigner who has lived both in the US and in China, I would agree that both countries do have their fair share of nationalistic, biased, narrow-minded figureheads, but by somehow implying that this is worst than Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the MANY crazies with influential positions at FOX and generally throughout the US gvmt and media, this author has willingly forfeited any legitimacy of unbiased, detached reporting. Same goes for the author of the accompanying photo piece.

 

AMSTED

9:57 AM ET

November 1, 2011

Does the author know Chinese?

It strikes me that the author tries very hard to cover up the fact that she cannot read the Global Times in Chinese. I wonder if FP would like to clarify whether, in fact, it has commissioned a reporter to write about a newspaper who cannot actually read that newspaper. As anyone who studies the Global Times well knows, the Chinese edition is substantially different than the English one. Not to FP's credit.

 

DR. JONES JR.

10:44 AM ET

November 1, 2011

Do you have any evidence?

Or are you just flailing about for something to say?

Frankly I didn't see anything in the article that would imply the author doesn't know Chinese. As a long-time reader of FP I'm quite confident they employ (or have access to) fluent readers of Chinese with which to make certain their story is well-researched.

This seemingly unfounded accusation is not to your credit, sir.

 

JYS390

4:22 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Amsted raises a good point

Amsted raises a very good point, especially about FP's consistent use of folks with limited China background to report on China issues. The fundamental flaw is that the East Coast power elite have a very limited understanding of Asia in general and China in particular. FP caters simplistic China stories to this audience. The best reporting on Asia in general is the LA Times, the which tends to portray the complexities in China. These include stories about Chinese corruption and authoritarianism, but also social profiles of individuals and groups in China that challenge the black-white dichotomy of Washington.

Thus it is Dr. Jones who is "flailing about" as an apologist for FP.

While I agree that the Global Times is China's most well-known nationalistic newspaper, it's hardly the most strident or party-observant. Someone able to read Chinese would be able to differentiate not only between the Chinese and English language editions (and thus touch on the rationale for the discrepancy), but also between Global Times and other Chinese nationalistic media (read the military-related magazines).

 

DR. JONES JR.

10:35 AM ET

November 1, 2011

Oh dear, it seems the chauvinists are upset...

Seems FP has managed upset the fengqing (or would that be the wumaodang?) once again by tackling the subject of the Global Times, that ever-reliable source of vitriol.

I will say this for 'Global Times'. Despite giving Fox News a run on its money for pumping the public full of dangerously jingoist / chauvinist BS, it is at least a much more interesting read than the average Party mouthpiece tripe. Given their interest in covering domestic corruption and wrongdoings by the party, I don't see them lasting more than a few more years--just look at Caijing magazine if you want to see the writing on the wall.

In China, all it takes is crossing the wrong official or mentioning the wrong topic at the wrong time and this Hu Xijin will find himself 'harmonized' on trumped up charges as was Ai Weiwei and so many others. For crying out loud, if investigating the corruption that led to the deaths of so many children in Sichuan is to be seen as one person subjecting China to his personal morality, then hitting back over the exposure of government liquor expenses (or similar stories) is not exactly a moral line in the sand.

 

XTIANGODLOKI

11:49 AM ET

November 1, 2011

China makes Christina Larson look like Bill OReilly

The reasons why OReilly is ridiculous is not because he is biased, but because he insists that he is Fair and balanced. The Chinese papers have never indicated that they are anything but fair and balanced, so the comparison of Hu Xijin to Oreilly is silly at best. The last time I checked op-eds are supposed to be biased and one sided to begin with so it's hard to see what is Larson's problem.

The way I see it, the likes of Hu Xijin is a counter to the likes of Christina Larson in that one writes pro-China opinion pieces all the time, while the other only writes negatives ones all the time. You don't need to read much beyond Larson's Beautiful Me! piece (Nov 2010) to see that Larson hates not only the Chinese government but the common Chinese people. Heck she wrote a whole scathing piece on FP just to bash Chinese brides for wanting to look good for their wedding photo.

The result of one sided reporting from both is plainly obvious. On the one hand you get the Chinese "ultra/hyper nationalists" (why don't journalists ever use this term to describe Americans conservatives) bragging about China despite the fact that China is still just a third world nation. On the other hand you get rabid China-bashing trolls whining about Chinese "ultranationalists" and accusing anyone who is not blatantly anti-China of being "fengqing", "50 cent' or other stupid terms which they have little idea about.

 

JYS390

4:25 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Agreed

The mocking and dismissive tone of the "Beautiful Me" screed was disgusting, especially since the author didn't even consider how patronizing it was. I didn't realize this was the same author!

 

FLOATINGPOINT

1:44 AM ET

November 2, 2011

pro-China opinion pieces all the time

One has to be careful here. Yes, Hu writes pro-China opinion pieces. But he does not write pro-CCP pieces all the time.

 

JAC710

8:33 PM ET

November 1, 2011

Every article doesn't have to be groundbreaking

This is a very well written article that has a lot of good information in it. I don't think she's trying to change the world or force an opinion down anyone's throat, despite what you moron commentators are saying.

She's telling a story about a newspaper that has a nationalistic bias and how that came about. She's succeded in that respect. Which is impressive, especially given the fact that she probably has to write 10 1,500 word articles a month for $300 each just to make a living.

 

FLOATINGPOINT

1:43 AM ET

November 2, 2011

It's so low

It's so low to use "making a living" as an excuse. Everybody has a living to make.

Hu should be described as "patriotic" or "putting Chinese interests first". He is nothing compared to America's own nationalist media.

 

JAC710

2:06 AM ET

November 3, 2011

 

FLOATINGPOINT

8:45 PM ET

November 6, 2011

bad taste

You just proved my point.

 

BALKAN_FALCON

4:51 PM ET

November 2, 2011

Sure there is a Chinese

Sure there is a Chinese nationalist bias in the newspaper. But it is much more sophisticated than the utterly myopic and America centric crap on FOXNEWS.

And on some issues, like US meddling in other country's domestic affairs to serve its own narrow interests, they DO have a point.

Also another interesting takeaway: the "democratic China" that American liberal internationalists dream about may be a lot more nationalistic and aggressive and difficult to deal with than the current "authoritarian" regime.
Be careful what you wish for!

 

SLIMDUDE

4:54 PM ET

November 2, 2011

FOX

Fox is a bad comparison for FP to use here, because FOX is 1) a privately owned TV network and, under a Democratic Party administration, FOX is in effect 2) an opposition media outlet. China permits neither 1 nor 2.

I think many Westerners look to the Global Times op-eds for the same guilty pleasure rush they get from reading North Korea's KCNA. Not all of the GT's output is blood-curdling blood-and-soil nationalistic propaganda, but that is unfortunately what it has become famous for.

 

PATRICK MATTIMORE

7:43 PM ET

November 3, 2011

GT's Editorials

I write op-eds for GT's English edition (and China Daily). GT's editorial page is strongly pro-government and I would agree with both the FOX reference and the poster who wrote that it's not quite like FOX b/c there is no true other side in China.
The op-ed pages of the English edition however are not jingoistic. It's still difficult to criticize the government directly but it is possible to take on certain government policies.
I wrote the op-ed questioning whether the Maine hs recruiting Chinese students was a good value for Chinese families. It was neither a pro-government nor anti-government piece and nearly all the background info for my op-ed came from a NYT story. (I had included two credits to that story in the version I sent GT but they were cut). The criticisms of GT as a government shill were frankly laughable, at least with regard to that op-ed. I wrote follow-up op-eds for two Maine newspapers, visited the Maine town that is hosting the Chinese students, spoke to various interested stakeholders, and came to the same conclusion- the investment was not worth it. Apparently, Chinese families felt the same way as the school ended up with three Chinese students, not sixty as planned.

 

PUBLICUS

7:29 AM ET

November 4, 2011

Author knows here stuff

Having read the GT during my recent three-year stay in the People's Republic of China, I endorse and recommend the article. However, I recall around the June 6th date recently that GT published an unrefuted CCP "academic" who said it's often necessary and good to forget about certain events of the immediate past (the Tianemen Square massacre) so that the country could better develop its economy. So publisher Hu can be less forthcoming than the author states.

Then there are the usual parade of comments to the article. Most pro-GT commenters state, in the aggregate, the usual and predictable CCP-PRC lines about the United States, which Beijing blames for everything wrong with the PRChina, from inflation to earthquakes (US Weather Warfare) to the 'rennegades' on Taiwan, dissention in Tibet and Xinjiang, the price of gasoline etc ad nauseum. After all, there's absolutely nothing per se wrong with China (how could there be?).

JAMESLIP tries obtuse praise of the GT by groveling to say its English version is less stiffly pro-government than other CCP-PRC organs, still however failing to mention there is no anti-government publication in the PRC; moreover, CCTV has its same-same but different 44 government owned and controlled channels of what it calls news and entertainment, but what I call propaganda and indoctrination.

AGABOURY gets in the standard CCP line about colonialsim as "chief among reasons" why states fail (swiping FP for its "Failed States Index" which includes African dictatorship kleptocrats friendly to the CCP-PRC). We anyway know that monarchy initiated colonialism but only democracy could end it, as we did in fact do. The CCP-PRC is the new exploitative colonial master in Africa but increasing being rejected as such in the most recent elections.

JYS390 delivers another standard CCP line that we who are critical of the CCP-PRC censoring dictatorship and thousands of years of elite rule in China need to learn more about China - as if the oligarchy and autocracy that is China were a dark and mysterious place. In this regard, JYS390 joins to throw down the exclusive membership card, i.e., he lived "both in the US and China" so he knows the author and all the rest of we who criticize the CCP-PRC do so because we are uninitiated, perhaps even silly. This predictable CCP line highhandedly and conveniently dismisses all criticism in one supposedly unrefutable stroke. We read this condecending line often here in comments.

XTIANGODLOKI has softened his tone during recent months, and also has taken a new tact, saying a plague on both your houses but places a greater plague on the United States, freedom and democracy while being implicit that CCP censorship is a good thing (i.e., continues to be).

BALKAN_FALCON takes the always mightly CCP line that the US "meddling in others domestic affairs" is one of the worst crimes in history, especially when it comes to human rights and democracy. In other words, we in the West shouldn't be promoting democracy in the PRC because, given the nature of the fenqing and the blame the US gets by Beijing for everything wrong in China, we might get it between the eyes from the thousands of years of Chinese survivalist meanness, this time in new and, horrors, democratic ways.

Cleanup slugger ALANCHRISTOPHER takes the big guns CCP approach of presenting the economic data, conveniently chosen, selected, crunched - not to mention distorted by Beijing - to deflect the fact of a CCP-PRC political system that in the Age of IT is the most reactionary, censoring regime of the contemporary world.

When the GT opens its editorial pages to a comments from our readers section, or even something old-fashioned in liberal journalism - Letters From Our Readers - then I might make my first efforts to get published in the rag.

 

PUBLICUS

7:38 AM ET

November 4, 2011

Errata

RAPH82 joins JYS390 concerning the "exclusive membership card" etc in the paragraph.

And, obviously, The author knows her stuff.

 

RAPH852

3:12 AM ET

November 8, 2011

...

if you are going to try and put words in my mouth, try and at least read what I wrote.

 

ANDREADMERCILESS

8:28 AM ET

November 4, 2011

Chinese are acting just like Jews.

Chinese media don't tell the whole news but push Sinocentric news. Well, how is that different from the US media that are essentially owned by Jews. Most news networks and thinktanks are Jewish operated. Hollywood is Jewish-dominated. 50% of top pundits in America are Jewish, and most of them are ardent Zionists who care about Israel and Jewish interests before American interests.

 

ANDREADMERCILESS

10:12 AM ET

November 4, 2011

Chinese are acting just like the Jews pt II.

1. What is the hallmark of Fox News? It is the most pro-Zionist news network on TV. Though Murdoch isn't Jewish by lineage, he was raised by a Jewish man, many of his top henchmen are Jewish, and his network is tolerated by Jewish tycoons of the media because it is so pro-Zionist. And can we really say MSNBC, CNN, and other news sources are any less biased than Fox? They are all sensationalistic, dominated by pretty faces and 'personalities' than by balanced and judicious newsmen. They are all hysterical and only different on WHAT they are hysterical about. But on one issue--Israel and Jews--, all media networks are in agreement: Jews are holy, Jews are never to be criticized, Jews were always victims and never villains, and if you dare criticize Jewish power, you're an 'antisemite' or 'Nazi'--though Jewish commentators see fit to critique and attack wasp power, Mormon power, Christian Right power, Chinese power, Muslim power, Russian power, etc. The rule says Jews can criticize and even condemn all other peoples as groups, but we must never ever say anything negative about Jews.
This Chinese Global News sounds like a pile of garbage, the sort of thing we should expect from a non-democratic nation still run by the Communist Party. But the notion that the US media are responsible, fair-minded, or balanced is a joke. Not just Fox but all the news stations pretty much give you one side of the story that happens to be Judeo-centric. Let's face it: it was Jewish neocons and Jewish liberal Zionists who got us into Wars for Israel in the Middle East. And now the Zionists are paving the way for a war on Iran. China may make a lot of noises about its military muscle, but it is US that exercises its muscle, but not in the interest of all Americans but in the interest of Zionist Jews.

2. Larson mocks the Chinese narrative of 'victimhood' at the hands of foreign powers, and I agree the Chinese have been whiny, hypocritical, and insufferable on this issue. But why is it bad when Chinese do it but great when Jews(and blacks) do it? NO people are as obsessed about their victimhood as Jews are. Holocaust is now Holocaustianity, the new religion for Western man. Jews are now Jewsus who supposedly died for our sins. We mustn't only believe in the Holocaust but we must worship it. We must also worship Israel as the Promised Land for the Holy people, and so the hell with Palestinians. Of course, this Jewish victimhood schtick is purely selective. Ancient Jews were intolerant, hateful, and murderous, even genocidal. Unlike pagans, Jews even called for stoning gays to death. In the Middle Ages, Jews collaborated with Moorish invaders and grew rich while Christian Spaniards were forced to live as second-class citizens(just like Palestinians in what is now called Israel and the 'Occupied Territories'). Jews were also deeply immersed in the slave trade where countless Europeans were sold to Muslims and North Africans. Jewish bankers from the beginning of time ripped off the people. It culminated with the biggest heist in world history, the so-called 'bail outs' for Wall Street banksters in 2008 and 2009. The very Jews who brought upon the disaster are now richer than ever. And none went to jail. (If Wall Street were dominated by Asian-Indians or Mormons, the Jewish-controlled media would have called for their heads. But the big media. like Wall Street and Washington, are controlled by Jews, and so via Jewish networking and tribalism, the very Jews who robbed us only got to rob us more--not least by putting in office their puppet-child Obama who yammers about 'change' but caters to the money-changers.)
Though US is called a democracy, it is really a form of dictatorship of Zionists. Zionists control most of the big media, dominate elite academia, use Hollywood and entertainment to either turn people into apathetic zombies or brainwashed sheep of political correctness. Jewish Hollywood has made many movies depicting Muslims as swarthy barbaric terrorists. And the remake of Red Dawn would have China--or North Korea--invade the US. So, Jews are hyping and spreading Muslim-peril and Yellow Peril. But I doubt if Foreign Policy, probably funded by Jews, will run articles on Jewish power. Sure, FP has a few token critics of Jewish power like Walt Mearshimer, but they play ever so soft and don't have the guts to speak the whole truth on the nature of the Jewish power matrix.
Not only have Jewish bankers robbed whole of humanity but Jewish communists spread and led some of the most poisonous movements in the 20th century. Many of the butchers in Eastern Europe were communist Jews and they have blood on their hands.
But all we hear about is the Holocaust. We near nothing about Jewish role in the Bolshocaust.
Now, if US is such a free nation and we enjoy such media and academic freedom, how come NO ONE in the so-called mainstream media have the balls to face up to these issues? How come almost no one has the guts to say our foreign policy has largely been influenced by Zionist and Jewish interests? How come the most powerful, wealthiest, and influential people in America(and by extension in the entire world)cannot be held accountable for their power and their machinations/manipulations?
In some way, an average Chinese guy has a greater opportunity and freedom to criticize the Communist Party than an American has, at least in mainstream circles, to speak truth to Jewish power. Of course, America is a free nation in the sense that criticism of Jewish power does not land you in jail(though in Europe, 'antisemitic' speech will get you fined or thrown in jail; some democracy!!; it should be noted that Jews in America are now calling for the same restrictions on free speech in the name of banning 'hate speech', euphemism for criticism of Jewish power). But most Americans get their news and info of the world from mainstream news, and that area happens to be mostly owned by Jews and controlled by Jews. Also, anyone who dares to speak truth about Jewish power gets blacklisted worse than in the McCarthy Era. Just ask Rick Sanchez or Helen Thomas.
It's surreal how Jews have the most power in America yet we are supposed to pretend as if they have the least power and need our compassion--as if every American Jew just staggered out of Auschwitz.

This is not to belittle the horrors experienced by the Jews in the 20th century. But even though Nazis were evil scum, not all so-called 'antisemitic' feelings or expressions were 'irrational' or 'paranoid'. Look at Jewish behavior in today's America in their control of finance, foreign policy, media, entertainment, porn(where mostly gentile white women are exploited like pieces of meat), and government, and it should be obvious to all honest people that Jews can be repulsive, hypocritical, greedy, arrogant, and hateful. And though America is paradise for Jews and most Americans worship Jews as Jewsus, Jews act all paranoid and fund hate groups like ADL and SPLC which portray most white American conservatives as closet-Nazis. If any group is paranoid and hysterical, it's the Jews.

3. Now, if one were to argue that the Holocaust gives Jews the right to aggrandize their victimhood for eternity and obliges us to never criticize Jews, why shouldn't the same rule apply to Chinese? It's very possible that nearly a 100 million Chinese died unnatural deaths since the time of the Opium Wars due to historical forces unleashed by Western imperialism: decay of old order, uprisings, civil wars, famines, Japanese invasion(Japanese learned imperialism from the West), communism(a Western-Jewish ideology), etc. It seems to me that Chinese have as much right to bitch and whine about their victimhood as the Jews.
So, why is it okay for Jews to constantly invoke the Holocaust to justify their brutal oppression and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the psychological castration of white males, the sexual exploitation of white women through porn and pop music(which today is music porn), financial robbery, radical open borders leading to the cultural and racial destruction of European and Euro-American peoples(while Jews insist on Israel remaining a JEWISH nation), and manipulation of media and foreign policy in order to make Americans--most gentiles--fight, kill, and die in wars that serve Jewish/Zionist interests than those of all Americans or all humanity... BUT it is not okay for Chinese to invoke their own history of suffering to bitch and whine about Western powers and anti-Sinotism.

4. I do not trust the Chinese, and I agree with this article in the need to scrutinize China very carefully. We also need to understand that Chinese embrace a culture of cruelty; they do horrendous things to animals for vain reasons. Bears will be tortured for their bile just so Chinese men can have better sex. So, more criticism of China and the Chinese is called for. Especially as China grows richer and more powerful, it must be held more accountable.
My beef is this: What goes for the Chinese must also go for the Jews. It is hypocritical and downright pathetic for Americans to pretend that Chinese media are so unfair and unfree while American media are the paragon of fairness, balance, and truth--at least in contrast to Chinese media. But American media don't belong to the American people nor do they reflect the feelings of most Americans. Most of big media in America are owned by Jews in NY, LA, Miami, and Chicago. It should be called the Jewish-Globalist Media, not the American media. And it is not fair, it is not free, it doesn't allow plurality of views. Political Correctness dominates the news--for example, black street thugs must be referred to as 'youths'--, it plays favoritism--for example, Jews have chosen Gays to be their partner in the Holy people--, and people who say things that are deemed 'racist', 'sexist', and 'antisemtic' are blacklisted and their careers are destroyed for good. Arrogant Jews get to determine what is truth, what is 'hate', what is 'rabid and virulent' when it's the Jews who are among the most rabid, virulent, and paranoid people in the world.
So, while I'm all for greater criticism of Chinese, we need to encourage the same in regard to Jewish power. Jews are 2% of US population but own over 40% of the wealth in America. It means 7 million American Jews own more wealth than 1.3 billion Chinese or 1 billion Asian-Indians. 90% of media are owned by Zionists and even Fox News does little more than praise Jews and Israel to high heaven. That is great power, and great power must be critiqued.
I mean really.. what kind of a democracy is this? I thought the people have the right to speak truth to power in a democracy. In America, not only can we not speak truth to Jewish power but we are supposed to pretend that Jews have no power.
THAT is sick.. and dangerous.

 

JLEMIEN

9:32 AM ET

November 4, 2011

News sources, backgrounds

I think it is important to note that this is not something unique to the Global Times or the mainstream U.S. media. Newspapers in Spain focus more on Spanish events than newspapers in Canada do. Democracy Now! focuses more on strikes, protests, and political radicals than the Wall Street Journal. Global Times and Beijing Daily publish content that is very different from and Danwei.org and China Media Project. Everyone, and every organization, has their own agenda, focus, and priorities. It is nothing uniquely Chinese (nor, I think, is there anything uniquely worth demonizing) about a newspaper publishing articles that are in accordance with a certain set of goals and priorities.

As for the criticism of anyone throwing down his or her "exclusive membership card," does it not make sense that someone who has lived in both China and the U.S. often possessing more knowledge of China than the average FP reader? Certainly, merely living in a certain location does not automatically make one an expert. However, is it not logical to suppose that a person who has experienced daily life in China, one who can read Chinese, one who has studies much about the country, would have a greater knowledge, and therefore (perhaps) a truer/wiser opinion than one who lacks these experiences? In the same way that "during my recent three-year stay in the People's Republic of China" automatically gives PUBLICUS's a little more weight, one's experiences and background is relevant to a discussion. If we were having a discussion on quantum physics, or space travel, or 17th Century poetry, wouldn't one's field of study affect how one's opinion is perceived. I am not claiming that JYS390, or any other commenter here reads Chinese news sources and has a deep and profound understanding of the country and the culture, but I can honestly say that it is easy to over-simplify things before one learns how complicated issues truly can be. This is, of course, applicable to many things, not just China watchers.

I have to venture to disagree with JYS390 as to the best Chines news source: I would propose the China Digital Times as the single source to go to if you only go to one place to read about China.

 

JXY007

10:51 AM ET

November 4, 2011

some thoughts

There is no denying the nationalistic bias in global times as the author pointed out. But it is not Fox, which distorts facts for a conservative audience. GT is a paper targetted toward the Chinese, who hate western and any kind of foreign intrusion (Great Wall being the perfect symbol of that country). So it's vital for western media to understand these feelings shared by the Chinese for over a century. For a country like the US or UK who have not been occupied by foreign powers, it is real easy for ppl to decry the nationalistic feelings of other foreigners. That passage on African poverty as a legacy of colonialism is very much true. I hope ppl can put themselves in the shoes of others if you truly seek to understand them and their positions.

 

GREG PRINGLE

1:11 PM ET

November 4, 2011

Mouthpiece

There seems to be some puzzlement about the fact that the Global Times manages to get away with what might be regarded as provocative content in any other Chinese publication. I suspect that the answer lies in China's military, which seems to behind many belligerent trends in China, whether it is the threat to atom-bomb Taiwan, outrage over the Embassy attack in Yugoslavia, or threats against S.E. Asia. There are plenty of powerless Chinese who are only too happy to to join the PLA's chauvinistic chorus.

What is interesting about the Global Times' recent threats against South-East Asian countries over the South China Sea is that it controverts the principles of Chinese foreign policy for the past fifty or more years. China has always maintained that it was a victim of imperialistic bullying. That lay behind anger over 'interference in China's internal affairs' and accusations of imperialism against the West, all based on the idea that China is a helpless victim fighting back against Western bullies. As long as China was railing against the West, this all seemed to hold water. But the day that China deploys military force against the smaller nations of South-East Asia, the veil will be ripped from China's foreign policy pretensions. We can all feel sympathy for a nation that stands up after constant bullying. Both the legitimacy of China's foreign policy and any sympathy for China's situation will quickly evaporate when it is revealed that the Century of Shame has merely led in the Return of the Bully. Does the Global Times realise where its chauvinism is leading? Frighteningly, the answer may be yes.

 

JLEMIEN

1:58 PM ET

November 4, 2011

Something which may be

Something which may be interesting and/or relevant here, I just finished listening to the most recent Sinica Podcast (http://popupchinese.com/lessons/sinica/the-extremes-of-china-media) in which the author of this piece, when questioned about Global Times and Fox News, seemed to deny responsibility for that by stating that writers don't always get to write the titles. It would make sense, because the impression she gives throughout the discussion makes it seem as though she, personally, does not equate Global Times and Fox News. I suppose this should teach us some humility, recognizing that our assumption that Christina Larson believed Global Times and Fox News to be similar is false.

 

JSONAS

12:45 PM ET

November 5, 2011

Let's have them first stand

Let's have them first stand trial to learn more about mens rea, that very criminal mind, then decide which deterring punishment they deserve

 

BILL888

4:41 AM ET

November 6, 2011

Globaltimes reply to the article has link below

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/682396/Foreign-Policys-limited-view-of-Chinese-media.aspx

 

PUBLICUS

7:25 AM ET

November 9, 2011

Thx BILL888

But the Global Times is not journalism, it is the propaganda and indoctrination rag of a one party state - the CCP's Chinese soapbox. Who cares what the GT writes, except for instances when it is belligerent, such as pushing its control militarily over waters surrounding Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and in the specific case of the CCP Beijing's absolute claims of sovereignty over all of the misnamed South China Sea.

The sea needs to be named correctly, i.e., the Southeast Asia Sea given that 130,000 km are on the shoreline of Southeast Asia countries but only 1300 km are along the coast of southernmost mainland China. (Hainan Island is recognized globally as a PRC province so there's no dispute about that.)