The Not-So-Great Debaters

How did the GOP candidates stack up on the first real foreign policy debate? On incoherence, bombast, and platitudes -- pretty darn well, actually.

BY MICHAEL A. COHEN | NOVEMBER 14, 2011

 

One of the chief complaints made about the Republican presidential debates thus far has been the lack of focus by the candidates on foreign policy and national security. If Saturday, Nov. 12's Republican debate, which focused exclusively on the topic, was any indication, be careful what you wish for. It was the first opportunity for the major GOP candidates to talk at length about their visions for America's role in the world, and it wasn't particularly pretty.

While the debate was constricted -- as any 90-minute discussion with eight candidates is destined to be -- what Americans got to hear was a whole lot of Obama-bashing; scaremongering about Iran, China, and terrorism; unqualified backing for America's apparently greatest ally, Israel; some impassioned support for torture (and a few condemnations as well); an abundance of criticism for the approximately 1 percent of the U.S. budget spent on foreign aid; and some rather muddled but occasionally interesting explanations about what the United States should do in Afghanistan and Pakistan. (And there was Herman Cain and his unique brand of foreign-policy stylings.)

All in all it was a pretty mixed bag. But with the next foreign-policy debate only eight days away, the candidates are finally getting their foreign-policy ducks in a row. Let's take a look at how the GOP field did and how they're shaping up. 

 

VERBATIM

5:39 PM ET

November 14, 2011

In retrospect

Wasn't Mr. Perry's 53 seconds brain freeze so much better at suggesting... thoughtfulness than all this verbalizing of thoughtlessness?

 

MASYNEE

6:33 PM ET

November 14, 2011

standard of debate

Unfortunately I haven't seen the debate, but I would guarantee Americans would be shocked at how poor the political debates are in Australia. At least from what I have seen, US politicians are mostly eloquent and can articulate their ideas. Maybe this debate wasn't first rate, but wow, you should have seen the our last election for setting low standards of politics.

 

DELTA22

11:32 PM ET

November 14, 2011

h

Conservatives are trying to convince the entire country to jump off the cliff with them. The fact that we're still taking these people seriously shows that they're succeeding.

 

JGOGEK

1:30 AM ET

November 15, 2011

Can you imagine...

...a presidential debate on foreign policy between any one of these characters (with the exception of Huntsman) and President Obama? Obama would eat them for lunch. He has got to be the luckiest guy in the world, although I guess he deserves some such luck after inheriting two wars, the worst economy since the Great Depression, a massive budget deficit and crippling tax breaks.

 

BUREAUCRACYWARRIOR

11:52 AM ET

November 15, 2011

I wouldn't count out

Gingrich and Romney. Romney might like to speak in vague plattitudes, but so does the current occupant of the White House. Heck, he got elected doing so in '08! Newt, however, could probably give Obama a run for his money on any topic, on any given day. Newt, like Clinton (Bill that is), is a policy wonk and a very intelligent individual. You can say whatever you like about his personal/political life, but he is an intelligent man.

Lastly, what, exactly, were Obama's foreign policy credentials in '08? Being a community organizer and professional office seeker?

 

MONGO46538

3:54 PM ET

November 15, 2011

And ...

Did a damn fine job of holding this country together after the trainwreck of the previous administration.

 

SCREWED AND TATTOOED

11:24 AM ET

November 15, 2011

Can you imagine....

Yep. Newt would wipe the floor with him. You liberals can only try to blame others. He's had almost 3 years now and he doubled down on any problems you say he "inherited". Anyone of them would be better than what we have, but some should just back out now.

 

MONGO46538

3:56 PM ET

November 15, 2011

Noot!

Now there's a man of impeccable reputation...
Especially when it came to standing by his wife while she was struggling with Cancer.

 

CURMUDGEONVT

11:10 AM ET

November 16, 2011

Imagine...

Perhaps, if Newt stuck to the facts but if he follows the pattern and goes with the "facts" the far right prefer then...no. But, it's all fanciful speculation because Newt is not going to get the chance to stand across the stage from Obama. The fat man has way too much baggage for even desperate republicans to stomach. Give him credit tho, he does dangle his toes in reality once in a while but never really takes the full plunge - and it shows. He'd have to act and talk more like Dr. Paul and he knows that that is the kiss of death.

 

MONGO46538

3:52 PM ET

November 15, 2011

 

OLSON46

9:45 AM ET

November 28, 2011

Herman Cain

This ‘brotha’ is the best representation of the current American government. A legit ‘ethnic’ sock puppet of Zionists and the central banking empires. Bush Jr. should thank this guy for making him look like Stephen Hawking.

Much love folks,
Lisa