With Us or (Mostly) Against Us

The Republican presidential hopefuls have a pretty clear idea of who they think America's enemies are. But what about its friends?

BY JAMES TRAUB | NOVEMBER 18, 2011

I've been combing through the GOP debates and candidate speeches looking for the word "ally." There's a lot about adversaries -- Iranians, Chinese, Russians, Islamists, jihadists, even Venezuelans -- but not a lot on the other side of the ledger. Much of it takes the following form: "Israel is our greatest ally" -- Michele Bachmann. Or: "You don't allow an inch of space to exist between you and your friends and allies." This from Mitt Romney, who went on to accuse President Barack Obama of -- surprise! -- throwing Israel "under the bus" by publicly criticizing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In his book No Apology: The Case for American Greatness, Romney also accuses Obama of betraying U.S. allies Poland and Colombia.

Is it a coincidence that the Republican candidates identify as allies the very few countries whose citizens just might vote for one of them if given the chance? Did I mention that Rick Perry has accused the Obama administration of selling Taiwan down the river? If only Newt Gingrich could come to the defense of plucky, supercapitalist Georgia, the candidates could assemble a complete list of right-leaning nations. It's as if they map America's own ideological divisions onto the world, dividing the globe into red and blue countries -- six or seven on the good side and the other 185 or so on the bad.

Perhaps this also explains Romney's strange allergy to Western Europe. You would think that the two and a half years Romney spent in France working as a Mormon missionary -- enough to fake his way through the language -- would predispose him on the continent's behalf. Of course, given the religious obligation to abstain from pretty much every fun thing Europe had to offer, he may have had a lousy time; maybe he even blamed it on the Europeans. He certainly has nothing good to say about the place.

"Europe," for Romney, does not conjure up the United States' steadfast allies in World War II and the Cold War, or even the cultural category known as "the West," but rather a failed economic model that deluded liberals continue to pursue. In the speech announcing his candidacy, he asserted that Obama "seems to take his inspiration not from the small towns and villages of New Hampshire but from the capitals of Europe" -- and we know what color that continent is.

Let us concede, for a moment, Romney's bizarre premise that Western Europe doesn't share America's values, even if that's where those values came from in the first place. An ally is not a country that shares your values, but a country that shares your interests. The two categories overlap plenty, of course, because values play a powerful role in shaping a country's interests abroad. NATO is an alliance of democratic nations born in the great moral, political, and military struggle against Soviet communism. But when President Harry Truman famously declared that the United States would "support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by outside pressures" -- the Truman Doctrine -- he was talking about Greece and Turkey, countries that were not then democratic but were prepared to resist Soviet expansion.

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James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and a fellow of the Center on International Cooperation. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

CAMUS10

11:56 PM ET

November 18, 2011

literacy

Should there be some comment on the literacy level of most candidates. Why fuss over the seeming policy contradictions, when geo illiteracy is widespread and commonly accepted, sometimes even inexcusably folksy.

Leading think tanks (AEI, Hoover, Sabaan, SAIS-jhu) with flowery credentials display the same hyperbole. Lets face it cheating for best university grades must have some underlying element. You possibly couldnt google all unknowns then proofread policy papers.

Cain Bachmann Santorum Romney Perry are unfit for the worldstage, Gingrich has zero credibility. On the other site you have equally breathless gaffes. One house intel committee dem leader was unable to distinguish shia, sunni. Hill Biden & BHO speeches commonly carry the same inaccuracies, they must think no one notices

Check out the gaffe universe in this Santorum interview http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/18/santorum-no-one-believes-israel-is-going-to-attack-any-arab-country/

 

WE_ARE_NOT_AMUSED

4:58 AM ET

November 19, 2011

Poor English grammar

Speaking of literacy, this sentence is unintelligible. "You possibly couldnt google all unknowns then proofread policy papers."

Couldnt is mis-spelled. It is a contraction of could not, and requires an apostrophe: couldn't.

Truthfully, your whole comment needs editing.

 

CAMUS10

5:04 AM ET

November 19, 2011

I agree

do see an edit key, somewhere

 

TIMPATRICK

11:05 AM ET

December 19, 2011

Agreed, they all do it.

It is funny when you look at the grammar level of these guys (and gals) and then look at their credentials. I know many, many people with much lower educations. Hearing these speeches makes it understandable that our leaders have no clue how to impress a girl or boy who is growing up looking to enter into politics. We need leaders who are articulate and understand the global landscape and can actually talk intelligently about other regions and cultures.

It is pretty embarrassing.

 

JORDAN_KLANG

1:07 AM ET

November 19, 2011

Wunderlik

Maybe everyone (including congress) should take the wunderlik test like NFL QBs. Do you think they'd do better?

 

WE_ARE_NOT_AMUSED

5:01 AM ET

November 19, 2011

Ally? All lies!

For you Yanks, a good ally is one who bends over, or who will always play second fiddle to your delusional arrogance.

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

12:47 PM ET

November 19, 2011

more importantly, does obama know what an ally is?

he abandoned poland, he abandoned czech repub, he is abandoning israel, he is hated in saudi arabia, the gulf states loathe him, he is abandoning iraq...

he DOES nothing on syira, he is doing nothing that will effectively change irans nuke program, he left mubarak to die, his reset button with russia is a total joke, and china just double deals on him and looks him square in the face smiling.

 

ASCHOPS

6:15 AM ET

November 20, 2011

I think Poland began to feel

I think Poland began to feel abandoned in Bush's second term already, when the promised trade and investment deals promised in exchange for Polish support for the immoral invasion in Iraq, failed to materialize.

As for the other countries, most don't quite fit the argument. Obama isn't abandoning Iraq. He's being made to leave in accordance to a deal signed by the Iraqi government and Obama's predecessor.

I don't understand your attitudes towards Egypt and Syria. You criticize Obama for giving up on Mubarak but you apparently also oppose his lack of action in support of the Syrian protesters? Why is this? why do Syrian protesters deserve support and their Egyptians cousins, who were calling for the end of an inefficient, corrupt, olygarchic government, did not? Moreover, Syria isn't even a US ally. What is it doing on your list?

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

11:44 AM ET

November 20, 2011

you miss my point

and that is that his FP stinks, despite the partisan medias attempt to prop it up.

I dont say he ought to have saved mubarak, I merely say that if he though mubarak had to go, if he thought qaddafi had to go, then he ought to have been more vocal about assad having to go. I only ever hear hillary sticking her neck out, never obie. differences betweenegypt and libya /syria? egypt under mubarak was never going to outright slaughter its own people, whereas in syria and libya they were.

Pwer poland and the czech repub, removing the missile shield per the russian request in return received NOTHING on iran. Wasn't obama's "new" gentler kinder more inculsive multilateral FP supposed to win over russia and china for just this kind of situation with iran? I dare say, obama got schooled by both the russians and chinese...they are not going to do a thing to help obama, no matter how flowery a speech obama gives...

As I have said, drones from las vegas are easy, sending in seals is easy andthe only thing to do in the bin laden case, so no, I dont give obama big credit there... but these are the things the media wants us to believe is making obama a FP guru...its simply not true.

his russia reset button was so full of crap, it was always laughable....china just laughs at obama and tells him to get lost. he has alienated real alllies and empowered real enemies. I honestly see nothing in his 3 yrs that says his FP is a success. All I see is silly PR to attempt to appease enemies by alienating allies. Why is there no peace process progress? obama and his ideology which he found support infrom the likes of zakaria, khalidi, said, wright, brzezhinski, malley, power, koh and walt. All of these talking heads share one agenda...alienate israel and win over islamic radicals....but it was a false notion from the beggining and the islamists merely looked at it and laughed behind obama's back. his announcement about closing gitmo within his first yr in office was a PR stunt of extreme amateur proportion. As if gitmo was ever the reason that terrorists do what they do. and for the record, because israel LEGITIMATELY EXISTS, but the islamists hate it none the less, does that then mean that america, the beacon of morality and freedom should conduct their FP based on what islamists want us to do? its ridiculous. The problem is not israel, never has been, the problem is the islamists and salafists. In case any of you dont remember or dont care to look into it, the PLO(palestine LIBERATION organization) was established in 1964! why is that date illuminating? there were no "occupied"territories in 1964 ....so what was the PLO established to LIBERATE in 1964? you see folks, all this talk of settlements and occupation and lobbies is all bunk...israel was legit in 1948, legit in history, and in 1967, was defending itself once more from an attempt to annihilate israel....israel won, the arabs lost. The land won inwar is not occupied, it is legally in dispute. Israel has offered to trade it back for full recognition and the arabs have always said no recognition of israel. There you have it. look at gaza...or south lebanon for that matter...land given back, in return for more terrorism.

when you liberals and anti's get your facts straight, maybe then a real discussion can be had. Do I support the settlers? no, I dont, HOWEVER, until the pals sit down to real discussions,the settlers will not be dealt with and the pals wont get their country. Israel has removed settlers before and will again, but this time not for empty promises. Obama has enabled complete obstruction on the part of abbas. He scolds bibi for what? bibi froze building for 10 months all while abbas sat on his hands...and obama said nothing. I call that a true lack of clarity and leadership. bibi called for 2 states for 2 peoples, abbas wont. bibi called for recognition of israel as a jewish state, abbas wont do it. obama says nothing. Bibi removed checkpoints, bibi worked with the PA to improve the economy in the wb, bibi eased the gaza blackade....and yet obama STILL treated his ally more like an enemy. and yet, even while bibi did all of this, abbas did nothing and obama said nothing, which only made the peace process that much more intractable.

on balance, obama's FP is all partisan PR hype and very little substance.

 

ANDYPPPE

8:33 PM ET

November 19, 2011

Values vs Interests

I particularly like the comment about an ally sharing interests and not values and had not really thought about allies that way before. That's why allies change over time, as "interests" change whereas values tend to remain more core and will be more consistent over history. I am working from home this week so I will try and do more reading on this

 

AARONJA

6:49 AM ET

November 20, 2011

Values vs Interests

Values are what separate natural allies from mere allies of convenience. The former will be stronger and endure.

 

ASCHOPS

4:46 PM ET

November 20, 2011

Really?

Can you please tell examples of alliances, enduring alliances, based on shared values alone? The US alliance with Saudi Arabia is quite an old one; it's in fact older than the one with Israel (initially Israel was a Soviet ally, then a French ally, and only by the late 60s it turned to a US ally). Seems to me that an enduring alliance is one based on enduring shared interests; thus, the US-Saudi managed to keep alive after so many decades because of the US perennial need for stable oil supply, and Saudi Arabia's need for support against domestic attempts to overthrow the Islamist monarchy. As for values-based alliances: they don't exist.

 

AARONJA

7:40 AM ET

November 21, 2011

The US alliances with Canada

The US alliances with Canada and Australia are good examples, or between Australia and New Zealand. These English-speaking countries, all former colonies of Britain have similar cultures and values and so they are usually in agreement on most foreign policy issues. Its hard to think of a circumstance in which they would not be natural allies. When they do have disagreements they tend to be rather minor.

The US and Saudi Arabia on the other hand are obviously allies of convenience. The relationship with the Shah of Iran was similar, and that country switched in a heart-beat to a self-defined enemy of the US following a regime change.

Countries with shared values tend to have shared interests as well because the two are often intertwined. Even far-flung countries like Denmark and New Zealand at opposite ends of the globe take fairly similar stances in foreign policy because they have similar values.

 

ROEEORLAND

2:44 PM ET

November 20, 2011

wasn't Mubarak a US ally?

guess Dems have a bit of a hard time with that "ally" thing as well...

 

DELTA22

7:36 AM ET

November 21, 2011

Mubarak was an ally of

Mubarak was an ally of convenience. Once his people started to rise up that alliance was no longer tenable, so we pushed for him to resign. And resign he did.

 

FORLORNEHOPE

10:28 AM ET

November 21, 2011

Tin ear

If the ability to listen is a necessary requirement for a successful politician, then that recording of Romney murdering the French language should disqualify him from running for a place on a town council. To have that bad an accent after two years in France suggests that all he ever did was talk at people. As the cliche puts it: you have two ears and one mouth and they should be used in the same proportions.

 

COBILOU

5:19 PM ET

November 21, 2011

With Us or (Mostly) Against Us

Given that the quality of foreign policy debate among GOP candidates for the last three PresidentIal campaigns has been atrocious and utterly divorced from the world we live in, why should the author expect "responsible" discussion of who America's allies are from this crowd? They know they average voter, Democratic or Republican, is basically a "know nothing" on foreign affairs issues -- voters like to be spoon fed simple contexts and easy answers (i.e., cartoons and fairy tales) about what America should do in the world. That by remaining that divorced from reading about and understanding how international issues actually affect American interests, we get voters who already forgot that the last GOP President and his foreign policy team of Cheney and Rummy led us into two major wars without a concept of what "winning" those wars would look like. And now, thousands of dead and injured American soldiers later and a $1T price tag for the optional wars, we have strong support for another crop of GOP candidates who sound suspiciously lightweight on what they would actually do in foreign policy if elected. The public has amnesia, and they don't attribute stupid and shallow foreign policy to a party - they only attribute it to a past President who failed miserably in this arena. And they don't seem to notice that governors with next to no foreign policy experience may be dangerous again to American soldiers' lives and safety and to the American taxpayers' pocketbooks.

I have already made up my mind if anyone tells me about how he/she plans to vote for GOP Presidential candidate X, I am simply going to ask: Why do you hate America's military and America's hard working taxpayers so much? What have they done to you that you would trust another Republican president with the power to declare war so soon after W/Cheney/Rummy? Are you being paid by the Chinese govt to hasten America's decline? Or maybe you are taking money from the Iranian intelligence service to make sure we lose all negotiating power against those thugs. You should be ashamed of yourself!

 

DOMINOES

11:36 AM ET

December 10, 2011

fear mongering

The republicans are great at sustaining the fear that drives our country...without fear, there is nothing to hate or go to war with, so this is their competitive advantage that they use to sustain the war machine and the economic machine that they have going with the defense dept and pharmaceuticals and the agriculture industry...this is the way to keep everybody in check and working for the machine...this is sad but true...I have a friend who sells Austin usedcars and he has told me horror stories about what might happen if Rick Perry becomes president...he may be far behind, but he is not out of it by any stretch, especially if the fear takes hold of the country again. God help us get over the fear and see the world as a peaceful place or else we will really go through hell.

 

MOHANAUTUMN

5:43 AM ET

December 19, 2011

This clearly shows the

This clearly shows the connection between two countries. This makes the things very clear to the general public also strep throat symptoms