With Us or (Mostly) Against Us

The Republican presidential hopefuls have a pretty clear idea of who they think America's enemies are. But what about its friends?

BY JAMES TRAUB | NOVEMBER 18, 2011

Yesterday the United States made common cause with right-wing dictators; today it stands shoulder to shoulder with social democrats. Perhaps Romney would be able to live more comfortably with this ideological tension if he inaugurated a policy of "free market promotion" in Europe, as George W. Bush sought to promote democracy among autocratic allies in the Middle East.

We are familiar enough with the situation in which the United States makes common cause with countries that do not share its values (see: Arabia, Saudi). What about the more unusual case where a nation that shares American values does not share its interests? An obvious example would be Turkey, a NATO ally and a democracy whose aspiration to lead the Middle East has produced a series of clashes with the United States and Europe. And what about Israel? America's "greatest ally" pursues policies that do real harm to U.S. interests.

Gen. David Petraeus finally let the cat out of the bag when he told the Senate Armed Services Committee last year that "Arab anger over the Palestinian question limits the strength and depth of U.S. partnerships with governments and peoples" in the region. But Karen Hughes, Bush's great friend and his former head of public diplomacy, told me that she said the same thing to Bush after touring the region in 2006. The Republican candidates profess to be baffled, and outraged, that Obama would criticize so dear an ally; but if Canada -- much less Turkey -- pursued policies as harmful to U.S. national security as Israel does and proved as intransigent in the face of American concerns as Israel has, an American president would criticize it much more harshly (given the absence of a domestic Canadian or Turkish lobby).

The United States is Israel's ally much more than the other way around. And that's not the worst of it: Have Bachmann, Perry, and the other declared enemies of the welfare state noticed that Israel practices socialized medicine and confiscatory taxation? What kind of model is that? The Israelis might vote for Romney to be president of the United States, but they would surely prefer Obama, or Howard Dean, to be prime minister of Israel. It's a blue country with a red-country foreign policy.

If you push hard enough, you could find a few other countries the Republicans like. Perry has criticized the Obama administration for refusing to sell India upgraded F-16s, though in fact this never happened and he was almost certainly thinking of Taiwan. Herman Cain has sided with the very beleaguered President Ali Abdullah Saleh of Yemen, who has fought terrorists (as well as "terrorists") at home. Rick Santorum has assailed Obama's failure to support President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, leading to "what now looks like a power vacuum being filled by the Muslim Brotherhood." Of course, if you think that the Muslim Brotherhood poses less of a threat to Egypt's future than yet another decade of paralysis and frustration, then you might conclude that Obama was well advised to stop pumping air into Mubarak's lifeless regime.

All of this is familiar enough. It was Donald Rumsfeld, Bush's defense secretary, who first drew the line between "old" and "new" -- blue and red -- Europe. It was Bush who chose his allies à la carte, and Bush who gave Israel carte blanche during the wars in Lebanon and Gaza. But Bush also had some second thoughts. Bush came to recognize that he couldn't live without Europe -- all of it. He even patched things up with France. Bush turned to the G-20 to help deal with the global financial crisis of 2008. He saw that the institutions in which alliances are permanently embedded, like the United Nations, enjoy a form of legitimacy that no ad hoc coalition concocted in Washington ever could. If a Republican -- i.e., Romney -- is elected, he's all too likely to make the same mistakes Bush did, and learn the same painful lessons.

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James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and a fellow of the Center on International Cooperation. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

CAMUS10

11:56 PM ET

November 18, 2011

literacy

Should there be some comment on the literacy level of most candidates. Why fuss over the seeming policy contradictions, when geo illiteracy is widespread and commonly accepted, sometimes even inexcusably folksy.

Leading think tanks (AEI, Hoover, Sabaan, SAIS-jhu) with flowery credentials display the same hyperbole. Lets face it cheating for best university grades must have some underlying element. You possibly couldnt google all unknowns then proofread policy papers.

Cain Bachmann Santorum Romney Perry are unfit for the worldstage, Gingrich has zero credibility. On the other site you have equally breathless gaffes. One house intel committee dem leader was unable to distinguish shia, sunni. Hill Biden & BHO speeches commonly carry the same inaccuracies, they must think no one notices

Check out the gaffe universe in this Santorum interview http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/18/santorum-no-one-believes-israel-is-going-to-attack-any-arab-country/

 

WE_ARE_NOT_AMUSED

4:58 AM ET

November 19, 2011

Poor English grammar

Speaking of literacy, this sentence is unintelligible. "You possibly couldnt google all unknowns then proofread policy papers."

Couldnt is mis-spelled. It is a contraction of could not, and requires an apostrophe: couldn't.

Truthfully, your whole comment needs editing.

 

CAMUS10

5:04 AM ET

November 19, 2011

I agree

do see an edit key, somewhere

 

TIMPATRICK

11:05 AM ET

December 19, 2011

Agreed, they all do it.

It is funny when you look at the grammar level of these guys (and gals) and then look at their credentials. I know many, many people with much lower educations. Hearing these speeches makes it understandable that our leaders have no clue how to impress a girl or boy who is growing up looking to enter into politics. We need leaders who are articulate and understand the global landscape and can actually talk intelligently about other regions and cultures.

It is pretty embarrassing.

 

JORDAN_KLANG

1:07 AM ET

November 19, 2011

Wunderlik

Maybe everyone (including congress) should take the wunderlik test like NFL QBs. Do you think they'd do better?

 

WE_ARE_NOT_AMUSED

5:01 AM ET

November 19, 2011

Ally? All lies!

For you Yanks, a good ally is one who bends over, or who will always play second fiddle to your delusional arrogance.

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

12:47 PM ET

November 19, 2011

more importantly, does obama know what an ally is?

he abandoned poland, he abandoned czech repub, he is abandoning israel, he is hated in saudi arabia, the gulf states loathe him, he is abandoning iraq...

he DOES nothing on syira, he is doing nothing that will effectively change irans nuke program, he left mubarak to die, his reset button with russia is a total joke, and china just double deals on him and looks him square in the face smiling.

 

ASCHOPS

6:15 AM ET

November 20, 2011

I think Poland began to feel

I think Poland began to feel abandoned in Bush's second term already, when the promised trade and investment deals promised in exchange for Polish support for the immoral invasion in Iraq, failed to materialize.

As for the other countries, most don't quite fit the argument. Obama isn't abandoning Iraq. He's being made to leave in accordance to a deal signed by the Iraqi government and Obama's predecessor.

I don't understand your attitudes towards Egypt and Syria. You criticize Obama for giving up on Mubarak but you apparently also oppose his lack of action in support of the Syrian protesters? Why is this? why do Syrian protesters deserve support and their Egyptians cousins, who were calling for the end of an inefficient, corrupt, olygarchic government, did not? Moreover, Syria isn't even a US ally. What is it doing on your list?

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

11:44 AM ET

November 20, 2011

you miss my point

and that is that his FP stinks, despite the partisan medias attempt to prop it up.

I dont say he ought to have saved mubarak, I merely say that if he though mubarak had to go, if he thought qaddafi had to go, then he ought to have been more vocal about assad having to go. I only ever hear hillary sticking her neck out, never obie. differences betweenegypt and libya /syria? egypt under mubarak was never going to outright slaughter its own people, whereas in syria and libya they were.

Pwer poland and the czech repub, removing the missile shield per the russian request in return received NOTHING on iran. Wasn't obama's "new" gentler kinder more inculsive multilateral FP supposed to win over russia and china for just this kind of situation with iran? I dare say, obama got schooled by both the russians and chinese...they are not going to do a thing to help obama, no matter how flowery a speech obama gives...

As I have said, drones from las vegas are easy, sending in seals is easy andthe only thing to do in the bin laden case, so no, I dont give obama big credit there... but these are the things the media wants us to believe is making obama a FP guru...its simply not true.

his russia reset button was so full of crap, it was always laughable....china just laughs at obama and tells him to get lost. he has alienated real alllies and empowered real enemies. I honestly see nothing in his 3 yrs that says his FP is a success. All I see is silly PR to attempt to appease enemies by alienating allies. Why is there no peace process progress? obama and his ideology which he found support infrom the likes of zakaria, khalidi, said, wright, brzezhinski, malley, power, koh and walt. All of these talking heads share one agenda...alienate israel and win over islamic radicals....but it was a false notion from the beggining and the islamists merely looked at it and laughed behind obama's back. his announcement about closing gitmo within his first yr in office was a PR stunt of extreme amateur proportion. As if gitmo was ever the reason that terrorists do what they do. and for the record, because israel LEGITIMATELY EXISTS, but the islamists hate it none the less, does that then mean that america, the beacon of morality and freedom should conduct their FP based on what islamists want us to do? its ridiculous. The problem is not israel, never has been, the problem is the islamists and salafists. In case any of you dont remember or dont care to look into it, the PLO(palestine LIBERATION organization) was established in 1964! why is that date illuminating? there were no "occupied"territories in 1964 ....so what was the PLO established to LIBERATE in 1964? you see folks, all this talk of settlements and occupation and lobbies is all bunk...israel was legit in 1948, legit in history, and in 1967, was defending itself once more from an attempt to annihilate israel....israel won, the arabs lost. The land won inwar is not occupied, it is legally in dispute. Israel has offered to trade it back for full recognition and the arabs have always said no recognition of israel. There you have it. look at gaza...or south lebanon for that matter...land given back, in return for more terrorism.

when you liberals and anti's get your facts straight, maybe then a real discussion can be had. Do I support the settlers? no, I dont, HOWEVER, until the pals sit down to real discussions,the settlers will not be dealt with and the pals wont get their country. Israel has removed settlers before and will again, but this time not for empty promises. Obama has enabled complete obstruction on the part of abbas. He scolds bibi for what? bibi froze building for 10 months all while abbas sat on his hands...and obama said nothing. I call that a true lack of clarity and leadership. bibi called for 2 states for 2 peoples, abbas wont. bibi called for recognition of israel as a jewish state, abbas wont do it. obama says nothing. Bibi removed checkpoints, bibi worked with the PA to improve the economy in the wb, bibi eased the gaza blackade....and yet obama STILL treated his ally more like an enemy. and yet, even while bibi did all of this, abbas did nothing and obama said nothing, which only made the peace process that much more intractable.

on balance, obama's FP is all partisan PR hype and very little substance.

 

ANDYPPPE

8:33 PM ET

November 19, 2011

Values vs Interests

I particularly like the comment about an ally sharing interests and not values and had not really thought about allies that way before. That's why allies change over time, as "interests" change whereas values tend to remain more core and will be more consistent over history. I am working from home this week so I will try and do more reading on this

 

AARONJA

6:49 AM ET

November 20, 2011

Values vs Interests

Values are what separate natural allies from mere allies of convenience. The former will be stronger and endure.

 

ASCHOPS

4:46 PM ET

November 20, 2011

Really?

Can you please tell examples of alliances, enduring alliances, based on shared values alone? The US alliance with Saudi Arabia is quite an old one; it's in fact older than the one with Israel (initially Israel was a Soviet ally, then a French ally, and only by the late 60s it turned to a US ally). Seems to me that an enduring alliance is one based on enduring shared interests; thus, the US-Saudi managed to keep alive after so many decades because of the US perennial need for stable oil supply, and Saudi Arabia's need for support against domestic attempts to overthrow the Islamist monarchy. As for values-based alliances: they don't exist.

 

AARONJA

7:40 AM ET

November 21, 2011

The US alliances with Canada

The US alliances with Canada and Australia are good examples, or between Australia and New Zealand. These English-speaking countries, all former colonies of Britain have similar cultures and values and so they are usually in agreement on most foreign policy issues. Its hard to think of a circumstance in which they would not be natural allies. When they do have disagreements they tend to be rather minor.

The US and Saudi Arabia on the other hand are obviously allies of convenience. The relationship with the Shah of Iran was similar, and that country switched in a heart-beat to a self-defined enemy of the US following a regime change.

Countries with shared values tend to have shared interests as well because the two are often intertwined. Even far-flung countries like Denmark and New Zealand at opposite ends of the globe take fairly similar stances in foreign policy because they have similar values.

 

ROEEORLAND

2:44 PM ET

November 20, 2011

wasn't Mubarak a US ally?

guess Dems have a bit of a hard time with that "ally" thing as well...

 

DELTA22

7:36 AM ET

November 21, 2011

Mubarak was an ally of

Mubarak was an ally of convenience. Once his people started to rise up that alliance was no longer tenable, so we pushed for him to resign. And resign he did.

 

FORLORNEHOPE

10:28 AM ET

November 21, 2011

Tin ear

If the ability to listen is a necessary requirement for a successful politician, then that recording of Romney murdering the French language should disqualify him from running for a place on a town council. To have that bad an accent after two years in France suggests that all he ever did was talk at people. As the cliche puts it: you have two ears and one mouth and they should be used in the same proportions.

 

COBILOU

5:19 PM ET

November 21, 2011

With Us or (Mostly) Against Us

Given that the quality of foreign policy debate among GOP candidates for the last three PresidentIal campaigns has been atrocious and utterly divorced from the world we live in, why should the author expect "responsible" discussion of who America's allies are from this crowd? They know they average voter, Democratic or Republican, is basically a "know nothing" on foreign affairs issues -- voters like to be spoon fed simple contexts and easy answers (i.e., cartoons and fairy tales) about what America should do in the world. That by remaining that divorced from reading about and understanding how international issues actually affect American interests, we get voters who already forgot that the last GOP President and his foreign policy team of Cheney and Rummy led us into two major wars without a concept of what "winning" those wars would look like. And now, thousands of dead and injured American soldiers later and a $1T price tag for the optional wars, we have strong support for another crop of GOP candidates who sound suspiciously lightweight on what they would actually do in foreign policy if elected. The public has amnesia, and they don't attribute stupid and shallow foreign policy to a party - they only attribute it to a past President who failed miserably in this arena. And they don't seem to notice that governors with next to no foreign policy experience may be dangerous again to American soldiers' lives and safety and to the American taxpayers' pocketbooks.

I have already made up my mind if anyone tells me about how he/she plans to vote for GOP Presidential candidate X, I am simply going to ask: Why do you hate America's military and America's hard working taxpayers so much? What have they done to you that you would trust another Republican president with the power to declare war so soon after W/Cheney/Rummy? Are you being paid by the Chinese govt to hasten America's decline? Or maybe you are taking money from the Iranian intelligence service to make sure we lose all negotiating power against those thugs. You should be ashamed of yourself!

 

DOMINOES

11:36 AM ET

December 10, 2011

fear mongering

The republicans are great at sustaining the fear that drives our country...without fear, there is nothing to hate or go to war with, so this is their competitive advantage that they use to sustain the war machine and the economic machine that they have going with the defense dept and pharmaceuticals and the agriculture industry...this is the way to keep everybody in check and working for the machine...this is sad but true...I have a friend who sells Austin usedcars and he has told me horror stories about what might happen if Rick Perry becomes president...he may be far behind, but he is not out of it by any stretch, especially if the fear takes hold of the country again. God help us get over the fear and see the world as a peaceful place or else we will really go through hell.

 

MOHANAUTUMN

5:43 AM ET

December 19, 2011

This clearly shows the

This clearly shows the connection between two countries. This makes the things very clear to the general public also strep throat symptoms