Continental Divide

Do Europeans believe in the European Union enough to save it?

BY JAMES TRAUB | NOVEMBER 25, 2011

All such plans are fraught with difficulties. Britain, among others, would never accept second-class citizenship, and instead might leave the EU altogether. The weaker states in the euro-core might choose to revert to their own currency rather than undergo radical economic and political surgery. But the greatest problem is that ordinary European citizens, unlike Americans in 1787, are not prepared to surrender their sovereignty to a federal government. European leaders once imagined that this shift in loyalties was almost inevitable. In 1948, Winston Churchill said, "We hope to see a Europe where every man of every country will think of being European as belonging to their native land...." But that has not come to pass. The cautious, step-wise process of European integration hit a roadblock with the effort to adopt a European constitution in 2005, which both the French and the Dutch rejected in a referendum.

Further movement toward integration -- which increasingly has meant building the capacity to hold laggard economies to account -- has thus been carried out quietly, by bureaucrats in Brussels rather than openly, through democratic means. And EU membership now comes not only with delightful opportunities, like passport-free travel, but with onerous (if often unenforced) obligations, like budgetary discipline. This has led to the current crisis in legitimacy. "As the EU matured as a political project," Mark Leonard writes, "its very success as a bureaucratic phenomenon fueled a populist backlash at a national level." The eurozone crisis has only accelerated this process. The new, Brussels-approved prime ministers in Italy and Greece have broad public support. But what happens when they begin to implement the painful austerity measures required to stave off default and meet the terms of bailout agreements? Even if voters conclude that deep cuts in public spending, pensions and wages are a price worth paying in order to remain in the eurozone, their resentment of the system will only grow.

There are two ways to view this populist alienation from Brussels: as a matter of culture and as a matter of politics. The former European Commissioner Chris Patten has suggested that the nation-state is "the largest unit, perhaps, to which people will willingly accord emotional allegiance." As David Brooks wrote in a recent New York Times column, West Germans were prepared to make major sacrifices to reunite with their eastern brethren, but Germans generally are not prepared to pay for the Greeks. Indeed, this popular antipathy has handcuffed German Chancellor Angela Merkel as she has tried to reach agreement with Europeans leaders on a solution to the euro crisis. The EU is thus a symptom of a larger crisis of liberalism, which once imagined that men would slough off their atavistic loyalties, whether to nation or to God, in the name of prosperity, efficiency, and rationality, with Greeks and Swedes alike becoming fresh-minted Europeans. The EU, Brooks writes, was only one of several ultimately failed post-World War II efforts -- the United Nations was another -- "to build governments that were transnational, passionless and safe."

All that may well be so; but the EU has exacerbated this intrinsic cultural problem by consistently choosing technocracy over democracy. You cannot move from an Articles of Confederation world to a United States of Europe by bureaucratic stealth, or by quiet agreements between political leaders. Joschka Fischer, the former German foreign minister and a leading proponent of a two-speed Europe, has argued that further integration can only be pursued "in the bright light of democratic politics." Fischer asserts that that European leaders must openly acknowledge that sovereignty is at issue here, and must respond to public concern by ensuring a strong role for national parliaments in any future settlement. Mark Leonard pointed out in a phone conversation that Europeans will only agree to the further surrender of sovereignty if the EU embraces issues that they, and not just their bankers, care about, such as immigration -- and if financial prescriptions are seen to promote growth, and not just austerity, the great German preoccupation. Absent pro-growth policies, the whole project may become irrelevant in any case, since the most endangered economies will never pay off their debt through cuts alone.

The cultural problem may be insuperable. It is, if anything, compounded by technology: The overall direction of the world is towards disaggregation, homemade networks of the likeminded, suspicion of distant authority. Perhaps the EU will come to be seen, in retrospect, as a quintessential product of the second half of the twentieth century. And yet the EU has not only brought immense prosperity to Europe but has helped foster Europe's collective identity as a place of peace, tolerance, and the good life. That's why my friend, Pierre, and so many others, believe that Europe must fall forwards. But it will never do so without broad political legitimacy; and that will require a very different EU from the one which has existed until now.

 

James Traub is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and a fellow of the Center on International Cooperation. "Terms of Engagement," his column for ForeignPolicy.com, runs weekly.

JIVATMANX

6:57 PM ET

November 25, 2011

It's worse than you think.

It's worse than you think. You only need to look at the voter turnouts. In a continent where national elections often bring 90%+ turnout, EU elections are 25%+ and dropping.

 

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12:50 AM ET

November 26, 2011

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1:44 AM ET

November 26, 2011

Europe is still there.

Europe is going no where. it will be back in town. Europe just wants to show to whole world that they can do what ever they want..!!
But i would personally say that the Europe is one of the super power of whole world. No one can defeat them.

How ever it is true that most of the world news and all the kings are born there.
England can never fall. They are just tumbling now a days.

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5:57 AM ET

November 26, 2011

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FORLORNEHOPE

7:20 AM ET

November 26, 2011

Been there, done that

Just under a hundred years ago it was clear that unless somebody did something really stupid, the assasination at Sarajevo would not cause any great ructions. Of course the Tsar did do something very stupid and the rest is history. Here we are again with a perfectly manageable European crisis which the collective stupidity of European leadership is going to turn into a disaster. Hopefully, this time, the disaster will be only an economic one. Here's hoping!

 

CELTTHEDOG

9:31 AM ET

November 26, 2011

Two points for the

Two points for the author:

Don't you think there was a whale of a difference between uniting 13 former British colonies (who had thus already shared a common identity) of whom 75% of the white population was of British descent versus some twenty-odd nations with no common language and entirely different national histories and cultures? The union of the US is comparable to that of Australia or Canada, not Europe.

I'll even overlook the fact that even among white men only the minority of the US population had the vote in 1787 -- unlike the universal franchise of today...

Second, that quote by Churchill ought to acknowledge that Sir Winston did not include Britain as a European country -- he believed we should remain outside of any European federation.

 

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4:07 PM ET

November 26, 2011

We saw it first

A denver divorce attorney recently said that UK divorced Europe long before they got united. Nobody in Europe was happy about EU so how could they even think that it will work.
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November 26, 2011

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MORANI YA SIMBA

8:01 PM ET

November 26, 2011

stealthy integration is up

I don't know how far Europeans are willing to go to build a federal government but I think it is high time to ask them more directly. The article very well points out that that bureaucrats have effectively tried to sneak integration past the voters, which may work for some time, and did. But the sense of having been cheated does more harm to legitimacy than anything else conceivable. It is necessary to ask Europeans openly what they really want with Europe. The only way to do that is to start an open debate.

 

MJACOBSON

7:24 PM ET

November 27, 2011

The Scheme Looks Appealing

It's the first time I've heard of this scheme where there are two zones in the EU, one where the mis-managed, like Greece, get to sit in their playplen, while the grownups, like Germany and France, can get on with the business of the day.

In my career, as an EDP manager, I've found that the pressures on the Euro have changed our workplace, and having the EU become stronger by dividing into the weak and strong is a good proposition, in my view.

 

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11:32 AM ET

December 1, 2011

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December 12, 2011

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