8 Geopolitically Endangered Species

Meet the weaker countries that will suffer from American decline.

BY ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI | JAN/FEB 2012

2. TAIWAN

Since 1972, the United States has formally accepted the mainland's "one China" formula while maintaining that neither side shall alter the status quo by force. Beijing, however, reserves the right to use force, which allows Washington to justify its continued arms sales to Taiwan. In recent years, Taiwan and China have been improving their relationship. America's decline, however, would increase Taiwan's vulnerability, leaving decision-makers in Taipei more susceptible to direct Chinese pressure and the sheer attraction of an economically successful China. That, at the least, could speed up the timetable for cross-strait reunification, but on unequal terms favoring the mainland.

At stake: Risk of a serious collision with China.

PATRICK LIN/AFP/Getty Images

 

Zbigniew Brzezinski, national security advisor under U.S. President Jimmy Carter, is author of the forthcoming book Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power.

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

12:31 AM ET

January 3, 2012

you'd like that eh zbig?

maybe the gloves need to finally come off so israel can fight these jihadi goat herders with both hands rather than one always tied behind her back.

The day is coming when israel is going to actually use its power.

 

ECONMAJOR0

6:56 PM ET

January 3, 2012

Agreed!

Though I really don't think Israel will ever lose its power. I think they will prevail - they have some really smart and have a lot of intel in the region. They can tap into calls, do satellite surveillance, search emails, and of course send loads of rockets wherever they need to go. Heck, the fact that they were able to cyber strike the iranian nuclear program is just simply amazing, and I expect them to continue to do this. Even with hands tied behind their backs it seems they manage to make some headway.

 

MORANI YA SIMBA

11:47 PM ET

January 3, 2012

Canadian AIPAC Euro-hater

Stop your chicken-jingonism. He's basically right about Israel's precarious situation. Israel has won some impressive wars in the past but it has three big problems it must deal with:

1) Its enemies are far better than they were. Israel won wars over rigid, conventional armies. It did not "win" in Lebanon, neither in 1982 nor in 2006.

2) It is bleeding international sympathy because it has become a neo-imperialist, land-grabbing country. It is hard to overestimate the damage done to Israel's standing, not by the occupation per se, but by the settlements and their relentless expansion. This is simply taking land that belongs to everyone else. Talk about how it "really belongs to Israel or to noone yet" is like a thief in court saying "I think Mr. Smith's wallet belongs to me, not him." He may think that, but everyone else disagrees.

3) Israel's economy is not at all big enough to sustain the required military spending necessary in a very hostile environment. W an American budget crunch, the support for Israel will likely also come under review, especially as Israel's moral standing slowly but surely is weakening in the US (and in Europe), because it is increasingly perceived to be oppressive and expansionist towards Palestinians (see above).

Israel's best chance for long-term security is to (a) get rid of Netanyahu (he is probably the most disliked leader of a near-Western country today, among other leaders and peoples), (b) encourage and help moderate Palestinians like Fayyad, then strike a deal w them (it will have to be based on the 1967 borders w modifications), (c) get closer to the EU, especially the economic core that will emerge around Germany (very briefly, the Germans are not Nazis (it's safe to say anyone w influence in Germany today are the ones who would NOT have voted for the Nazis) but rather Israel's second-best and most important friend inthe world today; keyword: "three free submarines" courtesy of the German taxpayers), and (d) get rid of the chicken-jingonism you exemplify so well. It is important to have high morale when fighting; it is not enough. Israel is an American, and to a lesser extent European, defense welfare client. I have no problem w that. I do have a problem w fools like you who think "Israel won on its own." You didn't and worse, you can't. So lose the chicken-ego. Then get defined borders and move closer to Europe.

 

JOHN PREWETT

10:38 AM ET

January 4, 2012

actually use its power

Ezekiel 38-39. God's power.

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

12:08 PM ET

January 4, 2012

SMOKEBOY

Israel will rightly rip iran a new butthole and it will be well deserved...hezbollah? hamas? they are soon to be flattened.

if you cared for world peace, which you clearly dont, but if you did, you would have big issue with people like hezbollah and hamas...do you have a sister smokeboy? you have any gay relatives or friends? you have any christians in your family? well guess what? in their world, all of them are either harrassed, jailed, beaten or beheaded...

maybe its time you leave your jew hate aside and get on with recognizing the true danger in our world. islamism WILL be the ruin of your world and mine...stop being such a teetotalling brownshirt. neonazis like yourself are dinosaurs.

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

12:25 PM ET

January 4, 2012

morani ya simpleton

nono, netanyahu is well liked in israel and other countries...

if your leftist friends dont likew him..oh well. He is democratically elected in israel and loved.

by the way, israel won handily in both 82 and 06. Only the press tells you otherwise. Since 2006, hezbollah has shut its weasely mouth. not one missile fired...thank you over and out.

 

PHILBEST

7:06 PM ET

January 6, 2012

The secretly wished-for fate of Israel all along

The sad fact is that Israel's neighbours can lose, and lose, and lose, and lose, and lose - and does it matter? Do they get exterminated? But if Israel EVER loses ONCE.........?

One of the ignorances that prevail among many Westerners, and distorts their judgement, is that they don't have a clue just how tiny Israel is. It really helps, if someone shows them a map of their own locality, with an outline of Israel drawn over the top of it. Then they can see that Israel's households live, like 2 suburbs away from people firing rockets at them an swearing to kill them.

I have believed for a long time that the UN established the State of Israel with its 1947 borders, with the deliberate intention that it was undefendable. I call this a "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" extension of "The Final Solution". I think it is utterly unreasonable to expect the Jews to have a homeland that excludes so much land that was historically associated with THEM - besides the fact that Israel needs to be a "defendable size".

The idea that Gaza and the West Bank should be States especially for Muslim Arabs, is ridiculous - there are millions of square kilometers of territory in the immediate region for Muslim Arabs already. The aid money that has been and is being spent on these people, could have set them up to live like Kings in Jordan or Syria or Egypt.

 

MORANI YA SIMBA

5:28 PM ET

January 7, 2012

Canadian AIPAC fart,

"by the way, israel won handily in both 82 and 06."

Yes, of course it did........idiot.

 

IGNORANTRIFFRAFF

12:47 AM ET

January 3, 2012

I don't understand how

I don't understand how Georgia, the Ukraine, and Belarus are important to America. The issues with Russia seem to be a European problem. Why can't the world's largest collective economy deal with the issues themselves if they are the ones threatened by them?

In addition, why are two of the world's largest economies, South Korea and Japan, so reliant on American support?

I don't know why we should maintain our massive security umbrella even though the mutual threat is gone.

 

GRANT

1:48 AM ET

January 3, 2012

Belarus isn't really, but

Belarus isn't really, but Georgia and Ukraine are important for geographic reasons. Western Europe currently isn't interested or unified enough for a confrontation with Russia on this. As for South Korea and Japan, Japan's economy is actually pretty weak and combined with weak political leadership it isn't in a good position around China and Russia. South Korea has a better economy and stronger leadership, but it also faces a constant security threat from North Korea. North Korea's equipment is less modern, but there's a lot more of it and they can turn Seoul into one big crater.

 

GUWINSTER

10:55 PM ET

January 3, 2012

I agree about Europe. Are

I agree about Europe. Are they really weak or apathetic enough to ignore their own interests by leaving Ukraine and Georgia to Russia? I agree that Europe is weak and that it is soft in the face of hard power. However, the author implies Europe is far weaker and more helpless than most think it is.

 

PARTYZAN

9:16 AM ET

January 4, 2012

Interesting thing, have

Interesting thing, have Russia destroyed its nuclear weapon or may be cancelled russian imperialism? Instead they are building KGBism in Kremlin. Belarus is key country for their advance in Europe. And do not forget cuban crisis.

 

TORREYLEE1

2:23 PM ET

January 4, 2012

yes

It's just like Bill said earlier, Europe is seen as weak (whether that's true or not is up for debate)and therefore won't be taken seriously. They have a totally different mentality. I've been through Europe and I've seen it with my own eyes (I do enjoy visiting their), they will be expected to sit around in their reef sandals, smoke skinny cigarettes and do what they are told to do.

The U.S. is a world power that controls the destiny of weaker countries, it's that simple.

 

BASE

2:26 PM ET

January 5, 2012

@GUWINSTER

Are you kidding?

Europe couldnt even kick Libya's ass. They ran out of ammo after like 3 weeks.

I am pretty disappointed with Zbig on this piece. What about all the nations that will actually grow as we decline? The 'chaos' in the middle east, while hard on the West, will ultimately allow those nations to advance, like Egypt is attempting to grow right now. This advancement has largely been stifled by the US by propping up these odious regiemes in the middle east and providing them protection in the international arena. Bahrain and Israel are 2 good examples of this.

 

GRANT

1:50 AM ET

January 3, 2012

Some of these are accurate,

Some of these are accurate, but I think the writer misses the real situation in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Regardless of how powerful the U.S is, Afghanistan is not going to get a strong central government at any point in the near future, and Pakistan is probably going to continue the trend to a state incapable of using its resources and de facto opposed to the U.S.

 

BASE

2:28 PM ET

January 5, 2012

True

However, with Pakistan, you will see them have a growing relationship with China, as the US declines and chooses to align with India, Pakistans arch-enemy and a major regional rival of China.

 

GRANT

3:37 AM ET

January 6, 2012

China might use Pakistan but

China might use Pakistan but Pakistan's continued geographic instability and strong radicalism make it an unreliable partner. There isn't any guarantee that Pakistan will even exist in another twenty years.

 

COOLIE

5:26 AM ET

January 3, 2012

I like the title heading of

I like the title heading of this issue, "Endangered species". Korea and Taiwan would be seen as an emerging power with Ukraine bit of the offensive side si joint pain.

 

AAMIRMUNEER

5:58 AM ET

January 3, 2012

Pakistan???

"Pakistan's political instability is its greatest vulnerability ............." and American influence and interruption in Pakistani politics is biggest cause of this instability. With due respect to writer and all, we might now know what democracy is and we might be "pre-modern" (whatever being pre-modern means) and identified with identities other than our national identity, but there is not a slightest sign that military-industrial complex ruling the mighty great USA is capable of teaching us "democratically-righteous" way of life or even if it's capable of doing so, it has any intentions to do so. Perhaps this "We are policemen and all the poor and miserable of world need us" way of thinking is the real problem of USA.

 

BASE

2:30 PM ET

January 5, 2012

"democratically-righteous" way of life...

Hell, we dont even have that here in the US anymore, with the Patroit Act and NDAA ...

 

NICOLAS19

8:22 AM ET

January 3, 2012

patronizing

You have to love the "world would end without us" and the "you gonna miss us when we're gone" attitude. In spite of the doomsday scenarios depicted by the author, the world will do just fine. Arab countries won't be invaded randomly. Minor nations won't be artificially overpowered by foreign arms. A country won't be automatically qualified as "evil" just because it doesn't agree with the US anymore. Dream on...

Take Georgia for example. Without the confidence provided by the US money, arms and the promise of assistance, Georgia would never have invaded South-Ossetia, causing the war of 2008. In that case, the usual empty promises of Obama have directly led to the outbreak of a war and to the expected defeat of Georgia.

Other charges are outright ridiculous. The author makes us believe that the US is the only thing in the world preventing each nation from becoming Godzillas. Russia would eat whole Europe, China would annex the whole SE-Asia. Why not add others to the list? Germany invading France, Italy colonizing Northern Africa. Or maybe the Zulus would re-surge and overtake S-SE Africa again without direct US involvement!

 

MJKT

6:40 PM ET

January 3, 2012

Bad Examples

Actually, some of your examples aren't the best to use. One of the arguments for why Europe blew up again after WWI was that the US backed out of international affairs and was NOT involved enough in standing up to Germany and Italy to help contain their aggression before it began. The argument for US involvement in the world following WWII was that the US would actively attempt to prevent major conflict that would then drag the US into it (such as WWI and WWII). Considering we haven't had WWIII or any great power conflicts sense, and argument could be made that it has worked.

You have areas like Japan, China, and Korea where none of them like each other for historical/nationalistic purposes. India and Pakistan who would seem to like nothing more than go at each other. Minus the US balance of power, new power structures would be created with major powers competing for influence around the world. This idea that if the US withdrew from the world the rest of the world would just get along together peacefully without any power grabs is about as probable as the world suddenly becoming filled with rainbow spewing unicorns.

This is certainly not saying that anything the US has done and does is good. This is just saying that it's extremely naive to think that if the major global power of the world disappeared others would just get along and no negative consequences would occur.

 

DEXXTER

7:25 PM ET

January 9, 2012

wrong president

In the August of 2008 then Senator Obama was busy campaigning and being nominated at the Democratic convention. President Bush on the other hand was in Beijing, China at the opening ceremony of the 2008 Olympics.

There is also a street named after Bush in Tbilisi, Georgia.

 

NICKGP

11:49 AM ET

January 3, 2012

the bull in the china shop!

Good god zbig!, I remember you from your days back with Jimmy Carter. With all your credentials, awards and honorary degrees, as a pragmatic and objective diplomat you were and still are as diplomatic and objective as a block of cement. In every case you mentioned, the fault you forget or refuse to come anywhere near is the fact that the majority of these problems and trouble spots is due mainly to the U.S.'s own uni-polar imperial myopic egocentric delusional, bull in the China shop foreign policy. In Georgia, with drunken bluster to poke the Russians (Your ethnic background may be a factor as to your feeling of animosity for the Russians), the U.S. and especially j. mccain encouraged the hapless and more delusional amateur shalikashvili to actually believe that if he started a war with the Russians, NATO and the U.S. would be there literally within moments to save him. Iraq, Afghanistan our own exceptionalist ego blinded us from any diplomacy, the costs and consequences of these two run amok most preventable quagmires will be felt for generations, they've brought us nearly to the brink of bankruptcy. The Afghans beat the Russians, now with schoolyard bravado we would show everyone just who we were and what we were made of, we'd go in and fix everything, Oh Yeah, both cases fixed!!!. In the Baltics you seem to forget or just want to ignore the large Russian populations. But the grand daddy of all is the Mid. East, where for over 40 years the U.S. tied it's fortunes and strategic interests with those of israel, a diplomatic anathema which today is threatening the peace of the entire world, a stonewalled unbending "israel can never do wrong policy" stranglehold, With no political will and fear of political suicide to mention or question with any diplomatic objectivity, we are fast approaching the brink of a catastrophe. We need Pragmatists, Diplomats and Statesmen, not bulls in china shops or arrogant pompous hack politicians sitting in their Geographic Society rooms smoking their cigars and drinking their brandy trying to relive the fantasy world of the nineteenth century where they spun their over sized globe Atlas's and fancied themselves playing "The Grand Game" drawing lines haphazardly everywhere and anywhere. The world and history is not what it was moments ago, it is in constant flux and ever changing, and not like some fool, who foolishly said and more foolishly believed "the end of history"!!

 

SABABA03

10:05 PM ET

January 3, 2012

Israel is not endengering the peace.

On the contrary. For 64 years, it is Israel, backed by US, and other western countries, which desperately trying to bring peace through democracy and civilized discourse where no one, even former presidents is not above the law.

Israel is the beacon of light, in the vast darkness of dysfunctional and corrupt regimes in the wilderness of the ME & Gulf region.

It is those who hate and teach their children to hate the Israelis because of their religious belief - they are the ones like Hamas and other Palestinians thugs who are engendering the peace not Israel

 

JBIRDMENJ

1:20 PM ET

January 4, 2012

Religious or Secular

If you take a religious point of view, the Jews were given the land of Israel by G-d. You can't steal what is already yours. If you take a secular point of view, this land has changed hands many times via being conquered, and every single time it was conquered it was legal, except the most recent time? Sorry, I don't buy it and neither do most of the 5.5 million Jews in Israel.

 

JOHNBOY4546

2:01 AM ET

January 5, 2012

"and every single time it was conquered it was legal,"

Didn't you read the memo? The age of empire and the notion of colonial-expansionism ended.

They are no more. They are, indeed, history.

Q: When did they become history?
A: After WW1, which is why the UK and France didn't take the old Ottoman provinces as "possessions" (as had been their habit in Years Gone Past) but as "mandates".

Q: Really?
A: Yep.

Q: How do we know that?
A: Because WW2 was fought over that very issue, and the side that thought that conquest was kosher (the "Axis") suffered a resounding defeat at the hands of the side that said that conquest was a no-no (the "Allies").

At which point I will ask you to mull the irony of your post i.e. your philophy regarding "the legality of conquest" places you fair and square in the company of Mussolini, Hirohito, and that only little dude who liked to chew carpets.

 

BASE

2:32 PM ET

January 5, 2012

Riiiiggghhhtt...keep smokin'

Riiiiggghhhtt...keep smokin' that crack.

 

BING520

6:15 PM ET

January 3, 2012

NICKGP

I think NICKGP points out the prblem with ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI's article. The world is indeed in in constant flux. BRZEZINSKI still lives in the Cold War. His failure to understand the real worl we are living in now is evidenced by labeling these 8 countried as endangered species and contributing the American decline as a main factor. It is so dumb and simple-minded, and I learn nothing from reading his writing.

 

WILLIAMDEANAGARNER

10:35 PM ET

January 3, 2012

Ignorant Fools Follow The Hollow Man (Brzezinski)

Brzezinski is a frayed sock puppet and the fingers belong to The First Sphere of Influence (TFSI), a group of dynastic men who reside in Rome. Hint: not the Vatican.

What he so arrogantly pontificates has been in the works for 50-100 years, so don't act surprised or think that you can actually do something about this mess in this late hour.

TFSI plans 100 years ahead and the original planners rarely see their fruits. Most often, they're lucky to see the roots of their evils push their way into the sun.

The geopolitical voice of TFSI, Nazi Brzezinski, is "accurate" in his assessments, because they're already well into completion, so far beyond help that it's even foolish to try. That's how this Nazi has appeared so adept and forward thinking for decades: his handlers in Rome give him his marching orders and he carries them out. And usually succeeds.

Keep your powder dry, Nazi Brzezinski; you may need it someday. Oh, the powder is the stuff that provides propulsion for the little lead thing in the barrel of that other metallic thing called a--wait, it's on the tip of my tongue--oh, a pistol.

Happy New Year,

William Dean A. Garner

 

MORANI YA SIMBA

11:54 PM ET

January 3, 2012

A point and an omission

Some of the items on this list, most particularly South Korea, but also possibly Taiwan and the Ukraine, have "nuclear proliferation" written all over them is the US "goes home." This is the response I would expect from a South Korea left to its own devices, as well as from Japan, if they were no longer able to rely on help from the US.

And I think he forgot one country, that he mentions a lot on the "giving end of problems:" Russia. Declining population, full of natural resources and right north of the biggest, and expanding, manufacturing nation of the planet, China. They will not be threatened w military invasion from the south, given their giant nuclear arsenal. They may be slowly absorbed by an immigration "invasion" and buy-ups from China.

 

RANDY NICHOLSON

1:24 AM ET

January 4, 2012

America has big problems

But so do ALL of the worlds major economies right now and for the foreseeable future. The biggest losers in a world of shrinking america are the underdeveloped countries barely feeding their own. The expansion of free markets in the world promulgated by the US is THE leading reason for increased efficiencies and conservation of resources enabling the overall decline of the two biggest villians of humanity namely hunger and pestillence. Say what you will about US imperialism but without the stability generated by this country playing both sides of many issues and in many cases paying for balance outright. Europe would be a bigger mess than it is, China would still be collective farming and Israel would not exist. Smallpox, Tuberculosis and many other tragic diseases have been nearly or completely irradicated by strong US leadership and the spread of capitalist markets have brought about world supply chains to channel food and resources allowing the productive to produce and feed their children. These are not small feats to be quickly overlooked. Who among the bigoted races of the world will step into the breach? The work we have undertaken and the accomplishments garnered are THE reason why we have been able to live our lives during arguably the most peaceful time in HUMAN HISTORY. And for that I am grateful. Not always proud of our means but you sure can't argue with the ends. 

 

AR

4:08 AM ET

January 4, 2012

The Cold War is over Zbig,

The Cold War is over Zbig, get over it. We understand you are Polish and try to be somewhat nationalist, though its pretty obvious you are a globalist, but will you put to rest the Russian bogey-man? It is quite tiresome.

 

PARTYZAN

9:21 AM ET

January 4, 2012

Cannot agree. Nothing is over

Cannot agree. Nothing is over with expanding Russia and ethnocide in Belarus.

 

PHILBERT

4:10 AM ET

January 4, 2012

Taiwan army

Apparently from the picture, Taiwan has no qualms about gay men openly serving in the army.

 

BING520

3:53 PM ET

January 4, 2012

Taiwan army

The picture is not gay parade. It is a special unit of Taiwanese Marine. That unit has always paraded with naked upper bodies as far as I can remember. I know little about their training, but think it is more or less like US Navy Seal. We privately called frogmen. A few years, a Taiwanese governor together with his close aids were murdered at gubernatorial residence in the dead of night. 9 were killed in a highly neat and professiona style. Two guards posted at gate saw nothing and had no idea what had happen inside. Police think it was committed by a lone former frogman, but Ministry of Defense refused to help so as to not reveal the trianing details.

I am not sure about the Ministry of Defense's policy on gay. Generally speaking, gay men don't fare well at all. The society at large tolerate gay, meaning legally they are protected, but the general attitude toward gay is outright hostile and openly disdainful. It will take many years of hard work to make people respect gay.

I served an an officer in Taiwanese army, and am not a gay and am disturbed by how gay men are treated in Taiwan.

 

MAREO2

4:48 AM ET

January 4, 2012

South Korea

"...or seek a much stronger, though historically unpopular, relationship with Japan out of shared democratic values and fear of aggression from Pyongyang and Beijing..."

The most ridiculous idea. Only someone who don't know Korea can think that it can happen. If the Koreans lose confidence in the US, they rather bow to China than ally with Japan.

 

BING520

2:37 PM ET

January 4, 2012

MAREO2

I think you are right. South Korea, if deprived of US support, would accommodate to China more than seek to form alliance with Japan. South Korea's alliance with Japan would put South Korea at disadvantage for it would antagonize China but can't rely on Japan for economic or military support and would serve only as a sentry guard for Japan. An alliance of South Korea and Japan with an limited, implicit US suppoort would serve American interest well because we would not have put up any of our resources to deter China's growing influence. I am not sure what Japan wants for Japan has never had a leader who clearly define Japna's role in Asia, but I am certain South Korea has her own idea how to swim among these big sharks and extract the best deal possible. To South Korea, an alliance with Japn would like facing a dragon (China) on you left and a bear(Russia) on your right and your dear ally behind you encouraging you to be tough and daring. South Korea would go for such an alliance only when it has absolutely no other alternative.

Should US withdraw from East Asia, South Korea's best strategy is to make China believe SK might join Japan and make Japan believe SK must accommodate China while doing neither at all. Jumping into Japan's bed would be a dumb move.

 

KBC

8:21 AM ET

January 4, 2012

Monroe Doctrine

Strange it may sound, but there is not a single South American or Latin American country in the list. Guess some will benefit from the American decline as well.

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

11:22 AM ET

January 4, 2012

iran is not an israel problem, its a global problem

does obama get it? im not so sure....he seems to think that appeasement will work...its 3 yrs later since he pledged to sit down with ahmedinejad...SO?

LOL....

Israel will do what it has to do ....the hell with your stinking oil prices...that's of secondary importance.

 

BING520

2:43 PM ET

January 4, 2012

Israel?

The mistake you are making is the assumption that the interest of Israel supersedes all other interests of the US as well as the world. A lot of people would use the exact sentence you are uttering - "the hell with your stinking Israel...that's of secondary importance". It has the same logic.

 

JOHNBOY4546

2:07 AM ET

January 5, 2012

"Israel will do what it has to do "

*chortle*

The closest recent analogue of Israel's future is Cuba.

Cuba spent decades thumbing its nose at the USA, and could afford to do so because it was made "strong" by its one and only patron i.e. the USSR.

And when its patron crashed and burned and cast Cuba to the winds, well....... look at Cuba now.

Because that's what Israel will look like when the USA crashes and burns.

 

ELIZABETH FITZGERALD

7:54 PM ET

January 4, 2012

World peace without the US?

World peace with the US decline. Looking at the underbelly of US efforts to maintain world peace in the latter half of the 20th century I wonder if we are going to be that much worse off without such "help"

 

WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE

8:59 PM ET

January 4, 2012

reposting a great one from sniper...wel done!

Palijuwana® drug of choice for Trident, Walt, and smokenmirror
I think we should all have a boycott of Palijuwana® the drug that makes palestinian supporters conveniently forget important facts. Here are a delusions caused by smoking Palijuana.

DELUSION 1: JEWS HAVE LITTLE HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO ISRAEL

Jews have lived continuously in the land of Israel for over 3000 years; the Arabs arrived through multiple invasions, beginning in the 7th Century AD. In the year 70 AD, when the Jewish civilization was already over 1000 years old, the Romans forced most of the Jews of Judea and Samaria (now the West Bank) into exile. By the end of the 19th Century, the majority population of Jerusalem was Jewish.

DELUSION 2: THE KORAN DESCRIBES JERUSALEM AS HOLY TO ISLAM

The Koran does not mention Jerusalem because Mohammed never set foot in the city. Jerusalem was conquered by Muslim armies in 636 after the death of Mohammed. Muslim jihadists claim that the Koran mentions “The Furthest Mosque” — Al-Aqsa in Arabic – and that this is a Koranic reference to Jerusalem. This is a lie. The Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem had not been built when the Koran was written, so the reference is to some other (or any other) “furthest mosque.” In contrast, Jerusalem is and has always been a holy city to Jews. The daily prayers of the Jews are focused on Jerusalem. The Hebrew Bible mentions Zion and Jerusalem a total of 809 times.

DELUSION 3: THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON IS NOT JEWISH

This lie is one of many designed to steal the history of the Jews in order to justify erasing them from the Middle East. When the Palestinian Authority was established in 1994, it immediately began a campaign to delegitimize Israel by rewriting history with the intention of denying Israel’s right to exist. Among its false claims is that the remains of the Temple of Solomon – the Western Wall – are in fact the remnants of the Al-Aqsa Mosque. The Al-Aqsa Mosque was deliberately built on top of the Temple after the Muslim conquest to humiliate the conquered. This is the same imperialistic tradition that prompts jihadists today to build a mosque at Ground Zero, the site of the 9/11 attack.

DELUSION 4: ISRAEL OCCUPIES ARAB PALESTINE

This is a genocidal claim made by the Muslim Students Association and other pro-Arab groups. It is genocidal because it obliterates the Jewish state. If Israel is actually “Occupied Palestine” then there is no legitimate Jewish state in the Middle East.

In fact, there never was an Arab state called “Palestine” and no one even claimed there was until well after the United Nations created Israel in 1948. The land on which Israel was created by the U.N. was also used by the colonial powers to create Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Jordan. It was land that had belonged to Turkey for 400 years. The Turks are not “Palestinians” and are not even Arabs.

There never was an Arab country called “Palestine” or inhabited by “Palestinians.” Before the creation of the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1964, which was sixteen years after the birth of Israel, no Arab political entity was called by that name.

DELUSION 5: ISRAEL IS AN APARTHEID STATE

“Apartheid” refers to the system created by South Africans in which “non-white” residents of that nation were denied citizenship and basic civil rights, and were forced to live in separate residential areas with segregated and inferior educational and medical services. Those wishing to demonize and destroy Israel now falsely call it “an Apartheid state.” But the only true Apartheid states in the Middle East are Islamic states in which Jews are not allowed to live and where Christians, Baha’is and other religious minorities are objects of discrimination and persecution.

There are 1.4 million Arabs living in Israel with civil rights that are the envy of the Arab world. Israeli Arabs vote in Israel’s elections, have representatives in the Israeli Parliament, sit on Israeli courts and on the Israeli Supreme Court, and serve as tenured professors teaching in Israeli colleges and universities. The Arab citizens of Israel have more rights, and enjoy more freedom, education, and economic opportunity than the inhabitants of any Arab or Muslim state.

DELUSION 6: THE ARABS WANT PEACE AND A STATE ON THE WEST BANK

The Arabs rejected peace and a state on the West Bank first in 1948 when it was offered to them by the U.N. and then in 2000 when it was offered by Presidents Clinton and Barak. In 1949, the West Bank and Gaza Strip, which the U.N. had designated as a homeland for the Arabs, were annexed respectively by Jordan and Egypt. When the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) was formed in 1964 its covenant made no mention of liberating the West Bank or Gaza from Jordan and Egypt. The PLO leadership stated that its goal was to “push the Jews into the sea.” Today the “liberation” of Palestine “from the river to the sea” is still the goal of Hamas and the Palestinian Authority (PA). The war in the Middle East is about the desire of the Arabs and Muslims to destroy Israel; it is not about the desire for a Palestinian state.

DELUSION 7: THE HOLOCAUST IS EUROPE’S PROBLEM; PALESTINIANS HAD NO ROLE IN IT

The Arabs generally and the “Palestinians” specifically were supporters of Hitler in the 1930s. The father of Palestinian nationalism, Haj Amin Al-Husseini, was a devoted Nazi who spent the war in Berlin and worked with members of the Third Reich to plan death camps for the Jews of the Middle East. Today he is revered by the Palestinians as the George Washington of their cause. The Muslim Brotherhood translated Mein Kampf into Arabic in the 1930s and called for the destruction of the Jewish state at its birth. Today Arab leaders call for the destruction of the Jewish state and routinely deny that the Holocaust with which their forbears collaborated actually took place.

DELUSION 8: ISRAEL’S SECURITY FENCE IS AN “APARTHEID WALL”

This is two lies in one. The West Bank fence is a fence, not a wall. About 97% of the fence is made of chain-link material. The remaining 3% is concrete, designed to repel sniper fire in particular areas. The fence was built in 2003 in response to thousands of suicide bombings and rocket attacks on Israeli citizens by Palestinian terrorists, sponsored and armed by the Palestinian Authority and Hamas. The fence was built to keep out terrorists, not Arabs.

In the years since the construction of the fence, terrorist attacks have declined by more than 90%. The fence is Israel’s legitimate defense against a ruthless and amoral terrorist aggressor.

DELUSION 9: ISRAEL IS THE CAUSE OF THE REFUGEE PROBLEM

The Palestinians claim there are 5 million Palestinian refugees who fled Israel during the 1948 war. This is false. There were only 500,000 Arab refugees from the 1948 war – an unprovoked war that Egypt and four other Arab states had launched against the newly created state of Israel. In the aftermath of the war, 500,000 Jewish refugees were driven out of the Arab states in the Middle East. There are no Jewish refugees today, sixty years later, because Israel resettled them. Why are there still Arab refugees? The Arabs have been given billions of dollars by Israel and the United States to relocate their refugees. But the Arabs are still in refugee camps. While Israel resettled Jewish refugees, no Arab country would take in the “Palestinians” who were forced into camps and were kept there by the Arab regimes to stir up hatred against the Jews. The refugee “issue” has been created by the Arab regimes as a weapon in their war against the Jews. It should be resolved by resettling the inhabitants of the refugee camps in the West Bank and Gaza where almost all of them have lived all their lives.

DELUSION 10: ISRAEL COMMITS WAR CRIMES BY KILLING CIVILIANS

This is the Big Lie, coming as it does from Palestinians who have made terrorist attacks on civilians a weapon of choice, and who make martyrs and national heroes out of suicide bombers.

The Gaza strip was a base for 7,000 rocket attacks against schoolyards and townships in Israel before the Israelis responded in 2007. During Israel’s airstrikes on Gaza rocket sites there was one civilian death for every 30 terrorists. By contrast, a 2001 study by the International Committee of the Red Cross found that the civilian-to-military death ratio in wars fought since the middle of the 20th Century has been 10:1 – ten civilian deaths for every soldier death. In other words, the Israelis protect civilians at a rate 300 times greater than any other national army. As Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz observes, “No army in history has ever had a better ratio of combatants to civilians killed in a comparable setting.”

STOP SMOKING PALIJUANA

 

JOHNBOY4546

12:59 AM ET

January 5, 2012

"reposting a great one from sniper...wel done!"

No, because it was not one of USMARINESNIPER's workl.

His "ten delusions" were merely copied word-for-word from this web site:
http://www.wall-of-truth.org/

Well may the sniper have copied another person's written work without attribution (i.e. plagiarism), because the person turns out to be David Horowitz, who is one of the less wholesome individuals running around the USA today.

Indeed, http://www.all-of-truth.org is but a front for the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which is in turn nothing but a platform for Horowitz's attacks on academics, blacks, Muslims and, basically, everyone who isn't whiter-than-white or willing to profess undying love for zionism.

But, apparently, he is a source of much inspiration for both USMARINESNIPER and WALTSWRONGWITHTHISPICTURE.

 

QUEENSTOWNER

8:04 PM ET

January 6, 2012

past facts and future results

I would have to say that reading these articles makes one of the most interesting insights in my life. The different perspectives presented are enlightening and valuable.

Whilst I don't agree with some of the perspectives given by responses offered, I accept the right to express them.I strongly disagree with some of the racist comments and slagging observed. Passion is one thing and opinionated bias is another.

Intelligence is observed in some of these postings, and is a credit to their knowledge and accurate understanding of these issues. There is always two or more perspectives, and an accurate awareness of the true situation is not available until you have seen and heard each.

The US has played an important part in World affairs, and I believe it is right in taking a step back, albiet temporarily to try and sort their own economy out internally, without wasting valued funds on money sucking external situations.

I believe that many of the fears expressed will never happen. e.g. China is not about to do any land grabbing now or in the future. They have never in their history tried to dominate by military power. Rather they have always been on the receiving end of power hungry protagonists. Because of the fact that the Chinese have always been involved in major trade over the centuries, and have been non aggresive with their military, they have always been the target.

If you look around the world now, you can see that China already controls the world, not America. They dont have to try and use the military to dominate. The Chinese military is for protection of their assets, and to build internal patriotism, not for aggressive takeovers.

The paranoia that the US has for China is based on fear created by the US propaganda machine. The Chinese economic power is what drives the world today, and the US dont like being second best. Things are changing internally there as they experience growing pains, but don't worry about a military Force that will try to takeover neighbouring countries or America. That is Laughable.

The Chinese have all the resources they need and continuous supplies at cheap rates, set up for the next 20 years. They have planned their future, and ensured it goes to plan. Many other countries are tied in to keep their own economies and business growth on track. No one is going to knock them off by collapsing markets, or by military intervention.

Unnoticed and not discussed is the fact that American citizens are leaving for greener climates elsewhere. There is an exodus, slow but sure of wealthy Americans and Europeans setting up base in overseas shelters. They are planning to get out and avoid the inner turmoil that is staring to affect the US and Europe.

I can see from reading this magazine, why so many are leaving for the peaceful shores of the South Pacific. Harmony and safety are no longer guaranteed anywhere, but in Australia and New Zealand they can recognise the morals and opportunities no longer common in their homelands.

Conflict is not neccessary. Misunderstandings stem from misinformation and personal predjudice. Things are not going to change until we recognise we are all alike and we are all entitled to our opinions, even if they are wrong. Confrontation is not the answer. Respect and tolerance for others opinions and differences, and working together is.

I know I will be labeled as a pacifist or idiot for my comments, but I live in Lovely New Zealand, where we mainly live in harmony with the many ethnic groups and cultures that reside here. We dont want war with anyone, we want a peaceful ,happy life for all. Try it, you may like it.

 

MORANI YA SIMBA

7:11 PM ET

January 8, 2012

Delusion 11: Israel can survive on its own

It CANNOT. Chicken-jingoist that you are, you talk about an attack on Iran and how Israel could smack it up. Well, I WANT an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities? WTF is the attack you keep promising? It ain't coming because Israel can't deliver. I'd love to be proved wrong there. But Israel can't survive on its own. If I were the EU representative to Jerusalem, Netanyahu would be my bitch within the hour. I have no respect for cheap machismo and I have no patience with welfare clients, like Israel, saying "we don't really need your help." I'd dare Netanyahu to say that even ONCE to Europe.

I would help Israel. By helping it defend itself against its enemies. By giving it trade access. And by squeezing its cheap chicken-jingoism out of fools like Netanyahu and you.

 

MORANI YA SIMBA

7:11 PM ET

January 8, 2012

Delusion 11: Israel can survive on its own

It CANNOT. Chicken-jingoist that you are, you talk about an attack on Iran and how Israel could smack it up. Well, I WANT an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities? WTF is the attack you keep promising? It ain't coming because Israel can't deliver. I'd love to be proved wrong there. But Israel can't survive on its own. If I were the EU representative to Jerusalem, Netanyahu would be my bitch within the hour. I have no respect for cheap machismo and I have no patience with welfare clients, like Israel, saying "we don't really need your help." I'd dare Netanyahu to say that even ONCE to Europe.

I would help Israel. By helping it defend itself against its enemies. By giving it trade access. And by squeezing its cheap chicken-jingoism out of fools like Netanyahu and you.

 

BELLTOWN SW

5:32 PM ET

January 5, 2012

Power Vacuum

This is an interesting article. Many of the issues brought up are cause for concern. Specifically, the issue with Israel is particularly concerning due to the support many Americans have for Israel - I can see the US actually taking action against Iran if there was a conflict. Most of the other issues, I'm sure the US will continue to take a more passive approach. My friend, a Seattle chiropractor expressed concern about how up-and-coming nations will handle issues in those small countries nearby. For example, what will India do if the US doesn't interact as much with Pakistan and Afganistan. I guess we'll have to see what the future holds. But this is simply a shifting of power from the US. Hopefully, good leaders in other countries don't rush to fill the power vacuum.

 

PHILBEST

7:10 PM ET

January 6, 2012

At least these countries are grateful.

At least Israel is grateful to the USA. So are most of the other countries in this article, who understand what their fate would be without America. I love what Ann Coulter recently said about ingratitude towards the USA on the part of much of the rest of the world:

".......Ron Paul is not electable as president for several reasons, including that he is only a congressman, is bad on illegal immigration, favors drug legalization and is off the charts on foreign policy.

But it would serve the rest of the world right to have Paul running the show for a term or two. Then they'd find out what it's like to be entirely on their own, protecting their own sea and air lanes, digging themselves out of their own earthquakes, getting invaded and nuked by hostile powers, having their computers hacked by terrorists and buying oil from the new Islamic caliphate. After eight years of President Paul, it would be generations before we'd hear a peep of anti-American sentiment again....."

 

MASSAGENS TANTRICAS

7:19 AM ET

January 7, 2012

Smokeboy

if you cared for world peace, which you clearly dont, but if you did, you would have big issue with people like hezbollah and hamas...do you have a sister smokeboy? you have any gay relatives or friends? you have any christians in your family? Good Work ! well guess what? in their world, all of them are either harrassed, jailed, beaten or beheaded... massagistas
aeronaves
ar condicionado

 

VCHALETS

12:00 AM ET

January 8, 2012

Nukes in Iran

One of the readers above stated Iran would have nukes within two years. I tend to think they've already perfected them. We are in such a world where all we do is focus on who is right and wrong, instead of just trying to make peace and agree not to agree or for the sake of things just agree to disagree. I am still trying to figure out why my country, USA, ships out so many barrels of oil when in fact us Americans keep seeing rising gas and oil prices. I just don't get it. Sometimes foreign policy is really foreign to me. Whatever our opinion is of the right and wrong or who should bow to who i in Europe or the Middle East the fact is all of this fighting will eventually impact us here in the States whether we choose to accept it, embrace it , despise it, or ignore it. For it is a small world after all. Regards, VChalets

 

MICHAELTURTON

8:39 PM ET

January 8, 2012

Brzezinski makes MAJOR error

Brzezinski writes:

" Since 1972, the United States has formally accepted the mainland's
"one China" formula while maintaining that neither side shall alter
the status quo by force. "

This is a gross, basic error, the kind that could and should have been
rectified with a ten second internet search. The US has never formally
accepted China's "One China" formula. Our One China position does not
include Taiwan. The official US position is that the status of Taiwan
is undetermined and has been since the San Francisco Peace Treaty came
into effect in 1952. See this recent Congressional Research Service
report, for example, by the well-known Taiwan specialist Shirley Kan:

https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/R41952.pdf
""U.S. “One China” Policy
The United States has its own position on Taiwan’s status. Not
recognizing the PRC’s claim over Taiwan nor Taiwan as a sovereign
state, U.S. policy has considered Taiwan’s status as unsettled....""

It's terrifying that someone with so much influence over our policy could be so ignorant of the facts.

Michael