Think Again: Intelligence

I served in the CIA for 28 years and I can tell you: America's screw-ups come from bad leaders, not lousy spies.

BY PAUL R. PILLAR | JAN/FEB 2012

"Presidents Make Decisions Based on Intelligence."

Not the big ones. From George W. Bush trumpeting WMD reports about Iraq to this year's Republican presidential candidates vowing to set policy in Afghanistan based on the dictates of the intelligence community, Americans often get the sense that their leaders' hands are guided abroad by their all-knowing spying apparatus. After all, the United States spends about $80 billion on intelligence each year, which provides a flood of important guidance every week on matters ranging from hunting terrorists to countering China's growing military capabilities. This analysis informs policymakers' day-to-day decision-making and sometimes gets them to look more closely at problems, such as the rising threat from al Qaeda in the late 1990s, than they otherwise would.

On major foreign-policy decisions, however, whether going to war or broadly rethinking U.S. strategy in the Arab world (as President Barack Obama is likely doing now), intelligence is not the decisive factor. The influences that really matter are the ones that leaders bring with them into office: their own strategic sense, the lessons they have drawn from history or personal experience, the imperatives of domestic politics, and their own neuroses. A memo or briefing emanating from some unfamiliar corner of the bureaucracy hardly stands a chance.

Besides, one should never underestimate the influence of conventional wisdom. President Lyndon B. Johnson and his inner circle received the intelligence community's gloomy assessments of South Vietnam's ability to stand on its own feet, as well as comparably pessimistic reports from U.S. military leaders on the likely cost and time commitment of a U.S. military effort there. But they lost out to the domino theory -- the idea that if South Vietnam fell to communism, a succession of other countries in the developing world would as well. President Harry Truman decided to intervene in Korea based on the lessons of the past: the Allies' failure to stand up to the Axis powers before World War II and the West's postwar success in firmly responding to communist aggression in Greece and Berlin. President Richard Nixon's historic opening to China was shaped by his brooding in the political wilderness about great-power strategy and his place in it. The Obama administration's recent drumbeating about Iran is largely a function of domestic politics. Advice from Langley, for better or worse, had little to do with any of this.

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"Bad Intelligence Led to the Iraq War."

No, bad leadership did. Intelligence may have figured prominently in Bush's selling of the invasion of Iraq, but it played almost no role in the decision itself. If the intelligence community's assessments pointed to any course of action, it was avoiding a war, not launching one.

When U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell went before the United Nations in February 2003 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq, he argued, "Saddam Hussein and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more weapons of mass destruction," an observation he said was "based on solid intelligence." But in a candid interview four months later, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz acknowledged that weapons of mass destruction were simply "the one issue that everyone could agree on." The intelligence community was raising no alarms about the subject when the Bush administration came into office; indeed, the 2001 edition of the community's comprehensive statement on worldwide threats did not even mention the possibility of Iraqi nuclear weapons or any stockpiles of chemical or biological weapons. The administration did not request the (ultimately flawed) October 2002 intelligence estimate on Iraqi unconventional weapons programs that was central to the official case for invasion -- Democrats in Congress did, and only six senators and a handful of representatives bothered to look at it before voting on the war, according to staff members who kept custody of the copies. Neither Bush nor Condoleezza Rice, then his national security advisor, read the entire estimate at the time, and in any case the public relations rollout of the war was already under way before the document was written.

Had Bush read the intelligence community's report, he would have seen his administration's case for invasion stood on its head. The intelligence officials concluded that Saddam was unlikely to use any weapons of mass destruction against the United States or give them to terrorists -- unless the United States invaded Iraq and tried to overthrow his regime. The intelligence community did not believe, as the president claimed, that the Iraqi regime was an ally of al Qaeda, and it correctly foresaw any attempt to establish democracy in a post-Saddam Iraq as a hard, messy slog.

In a separate prewar assessment, the intelligence community judged that trying to build a new political system in Iraq would be "long, difficult and probably turbulent," adding that any post-Saddam authority would face a "deeply divided society with a significant chance that domestic groups would engage in violent conflict with each other unless an occupying force prevented them from doing so." Mentions of Iraqis welcoming U.S. soldiers with flowers, or the war paying for itself, were notably absent. Needless to say, none of that made any difference to the White House.

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"Intelligence Failures Have Screwed Up U.S. Foreign Policy."

Hardly. The record of 20th-century U.S. intelligence failures is a familiar one, and mostly indisputable. But whether these failures -- or the successes -- mattered in the big picture is another question.

The CIA predicted both the outbreak and the outcome of the 1967 Six-Day War between Israel and neighboring Arab states, a feat impressive enough that it reportedly won intelligence chief Richard Helms a seat at President Johnson's Tuesday lunch table. Still, top-notch intelligence couldn't help Johnson prevent the war, which produced the basic contours of today's intractable Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and U.S. intelligence completely failed to predict Egypt's surprise attack on Israel six years later. Yet Egypt's nasty surprise in 1973 didn't stop Nixon and Secretary of State Henry Kissinger from then achieving a diplomatic triumph, exploiting the conflict to cement relations with Israel while expanding them with Egypt and the other Arab states -- all at the Soviets' expense.

U.S. intelligence also famously failed to foresee the 1979 Iranian revolution. But it was policymakers' inattention to Iran and sharp disagreements within President Jimmy Carter's administration, not bad intelligence, that kept the United States from making tough decisions before the shah's regime was at death's door. Even after months of disturbances in Iranian cities, the Carter administration -- preoccupied as it was with the Egypt-Israel peace negotiations and the Sandinistas' revolution in Nicaragua -- still had not convened any high-level policy meetings on Iran. "Our decision-making circuits were heavily overloaded," Zbigniew Brzezinski, Carter's national security advisor, later recalled.

Imperfect intelligence analysis about another coming political upheaval -- the collapse of the Soviet Union -- did not matter; the overriding influence on U.S. policy toward the USSR in the 1980s was Ronald Reagan's instincts. From the earliest days of his presidency, the notion that the Soviet Union was doomed to fail -- and soon -- was an article of faith for the 40th president. "The Russians could never win the arms race," he later wrote. "We could outspend them forever."

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"U.S. Intelligence Underestimated al Qaeda Before 9/11."

No, it didn't. Like any terrorist attack, Sept. 11, 2001, was by definition a tactical intelligence failure. But though intelligence officials missed the attack, they didn't miss the threat. Years before 9/11, the intelligence community, especially the CIA, devoted unusually intense attention and effort to understanding Osama bin Laden's organization. The CIA created a special bin Laden-focused unit in early 1996, when al Qaeda was just beginning to take shape as the anti-American, transnational terrorist group we now know. President Bill Clinton stated in 1998 that "terrorism is at the top of the American agenda." He also launched a covert-action program against al Qaeda that included developing plans to capture bin Laden, even before the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa.

When Clinton's national security officials handed over duties to their Bush administration successors, they emphasized the threat that would materialize on 9/11. Sandy Berger, the outgoing national security advisor, told Rice, "You're going to spend more time during your four years on terrorism generally and al Qaeda specifically than [on] any other issue." If more was not done in advance of 9/11 to counter the threat, it was because rallying public support for anything like a war in Afghanistan or costly, cumbersome security measures at home would have been politically impossible before terrorists struck the United States.

The most authoritative evidence of the intelligence community's pre-9/11 understanding of the subject is that same February 2001 worldwide threat statement that never mentioned Iraqi nukes or stockpiles of unconventional weapons. Instead it identified terrorism, and al Qaeda in particular, as the No. 1 threat to U.S. security -- ahead of weapons proliferation, the rise of China, and everything else. Bin Laden and his associates, the report said, were "the most immediate and serious threat" and were "capable of planning multiple attacks with little or no warning." It was all too correct.

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"Hidebound Intelligence Agencies Refuse to Change."

You'd be surprised. Criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies -- at least the non-paranoid kind -- tends to portray them as stodgy bureaucracies that use their broad mandate for secrecy to shield themselves from the oversight that would make them do their jobs better. But the great majority of effective intelligence reforms have come from inside, not outside.

The organizational charts of the CIA and other U.S. intelligence agencies have undergone frequent and sometimes drastic revision, a recognition of the need to adapt to the rapidly changing world the agencies monitor and analyze. The CIA merged its analytic units covering East and West Germany in expectation of German reunification well before German unity was achieved in 1990. Other measures, such as developing greater foreign-language ability or training analysts in more sophisticated techniques, have been the focus of concentrated attention inside the agencies for years. The most effective, and probably most revolutionary, change in the intelligence community's work on terrorism was the creation of the CIA's Counterterrorist Center in 1986 -- a successful experiment that broke bureaucratic crockery, gathering previously separated collectors, analysts, and other specialists together to work side by side.

Reforms pursued from outside have received more public attention but have accomplished far less. After 9/11, the intelligence community underwent a reorganization when Congress acted on the 9/11 Commission's recommendation to make all spy agencies answerable to a single director of national intelligence. But the move has not, as hoped, unified the intelligence community, instead creating yet another agency sitting precariously atop 16 others. Because both the new director's office and the National Counterterrorism Center -- another commission recommendation -- added to, rather than replaced, existing government functions, they have further confused lines of responsibility. This much was made clear when would-be terrorist Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab tried to blow up a Detroit-bound passenger jet on Christmas Day 2009. The incident led to the same sorts of recriminations as those after 9/11, about information not being collated and dots not being connected -- only this time they were aimed at the 9/11 Commission's own creations.

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"Intelligence Has Gotten Better Since 9/11."

Yes, but not for the reasons you think. Having a veritable blank check for a decade makes a difference, of course. The big post-9/11 boom in the intelligence budget -- which has doubled since 2001, according to the Senate Intelligence Committee -- has at least marginally improved the odds of discovering the next nugget of information that will enable the United States to roll up a major terrorist plot or take down a bad guy.

But it was the dramatic and obvious change in U.S. priorities following 9/11 that made the most difference. Counterterrorism, more than any other intelligence mission, depends on close collaboration with other governments, which have the critical firsthand knowledge, local police, and investigative powers that the United States usually lacks. Prior to 9/11, those governments' willingness to cooperate was often meager, especially when it meant discomfiting local interests. After 9/11, however, U.S. officials could pound on the desks of their foreign counterparts and say, "This time we really mean it." Some results of this sea change -- successes in freezing or seizing terrorists' financial assets, for example -- have been visible. Many others have been necessarily less so. Future success or failure in tracking threats such as anti-U.S. extremism in South Asia will similarly depend more on the state of U.S.-Pakistan relations than on the performance of the bureaucracy back in Washington.

Cooperation among governments' counterterrorism services has often continued despite political differences between governments themselves. Ultimately, however, such cooperation rests on the goodwill the United States enjoys and the health of its relationships around the world. As 9/11 recedes into history, states' willingness to share information is a depleting asset. We appropriately think of intelligence as an important aid to foreign policy, but we also need to remember how much foreign policy affects intelligence.

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"Good Intelligence Can Save Us From Bad Surprises."

We wish. Early last February, barely a week before the Arab Spring ended the three-decade presidency of Egypt's Hosni Mubarak, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, grilled a CIA official in a Capitol Hill hearing room. "The president, the secretary of state, and the Congress are making policy decisions on Egypt, and those policymakers deserve timely intelligence analysis," Feinstein told Stephanie O'Sullivan, then the CIA's associate deputy director. "I have doubts whether the intelligence community lived up to its obligations in this area."

Feinstein was hardly the only one to criticize U.S. intelligence agencies' inability to predict the speed at which the fire lit by Tunisian fruit vendor Mohamed Bouazizi, who immolated himself on Dec. 17, 2010, would spread throughout the Arab world. But all the bureaucratic overhauls and investigative commissions in the world can't change one incontrovertible fact: Many things we would like our intelligence services to know are too complex to model or predict. What the community should be expected to provide -- and, based on the limited publicly available evidence, apparently did provide -- is a strategic understanding of conditions and attitudes that, given the right spark, could ignite into a full-blown revolution.

The most recent recriminations and inquiries are only the latest in a long line dating back to the 1941 surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. The resources devoted to intelligence have increased substantially over the past seven decades, and intelligence agencies are continually looking for ways to improve how they do their business. But no amount of moving around boxes on a flowchart can eliminate unpleasant surprises, and there will always be new challenges -- especially in an age of endlessly proliferating information.

Intelligence can help manage uncertainty, defining its scope and specifying what is known and what is likely to stay unknown. It can distinguish true uncertainty from simple ignorance by systematically assembling all available information, but it cannot eliminate uncertainty and it cannot prevent all surprises, including some big ones. Leaders must accept this reality; they must expect -- and prepare -- to be surprised.

With due acknowledgment to Donald Rumsfeld, it also means expecting unknown unknowns. Not only will we not know all the right answers -- we will not even be asking all the right questions.

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Paul R. Pillar, deputy director of the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center from 1997 to 1999, teaches in the Security Studies Program at Georgetown University and is author of Intelligence and U.S. Foreign Policy: Iraq, 9/11, and Misguided Reform.

WILSON DIZARD III

3:55 PM ET

January 3, 2012

The source of the terms unknown unknowns & known unknowns

Good article; though it might have been more convincing with a few more mea culpas. The intelligence community still seems to shroud itself in seven veils of secrecy, when three or four would do.

Sometimes this reflexive default to secrecy approaches the ironic, as when a recently-launched open source intelligence center was shielded under what Maxwell Smart would call, "the cone of silence."

But: as for according the criminal Rumsfeld credit for the term "unknown unknowns:" not likely.

That term actually originated in the early days of the Apollo moon landing program. At the time, NASA scientists and engineers had vast areas of missing knowledge about conditions affecting human life in space and on the moon, including but not limited to the terrain and seismic qualities of the moon's surface, the various forms of radiation that astronauts might encounter &c.

These imponderables resolves themselves into categories of information that could at least be defined and other categories that defied analysis.

Rumsfeld's brazen hijacking of this term, from some Americans who really cared about the fact that they were sending their fellow countrymen into harm's way, stands as a wholly characteristic affront by the murderous George W. Bush clique to some hard working and honest people.

 

ITHEJURY

2:38 AM ET

January 12, 2012

paul pillar article

dizzard3 suggests pillar's article "...might have been more convincing with..."

could add pillar's article might have been more convincing (or worth reading) IF it read like something other than a patronizing grabbag of flabby aphorisms from a superannuated retiree. was there ANYTHING in this article that anyone didn't already know or assume?

c'mon paul, you're not that old. you have been in positions to have observed and learned many things of interest; if you don't have anything to say, why not just keep your mouth shut until you do [ie, put up or shut up]?

rumsfeld was full of 'unknown unknowns' (and of himself), while pillar seems full of 'known knowns' -- would be a better article if some witting person were able to inform us about some 'unknown knowns'.

 

THE LINOLEUM SURFER

4:24 AM ET

January 4, 2012

It's true that WMD was never the only issue...

...but the intelligence was still wrong.

Perhaps it's also fair to say that the intelligence on Iraqi WMD was also labelled, usually at least, in the lowest category of human intelligence i.e., to be taken as part of a broader picture rather than relied upon as hard fact (although if it's not considered fact, why consider it as part of any picture?).

The problem with all this retrospective "we knew all along it was rubbish", from the likes of the author and former British intelligence chief John Scarlett, is that it didn't seem to bother them at the time. If a general is ordered to commit a war crime, we demand that he refuses even at risk to his own life, or we drag him before an international court. So is it not reasonable to ask an intelligence chief to merely speak out if he feels the material provided is being misunderstood or misused? After all, he only risks his career, and yet the consequences of failing to do so - massive, unnecessary loss of life - are the same.

It's perfectly correct that the politicians make the bad decisions. But when they do so clearly on the basis of overestimating the intelligence they've been given, it's the moral and civil duty of the agency that produced it to stand up and say "please don't rely on that, we know it's not very reliable". Of course that's embarrassing, but not half as much as the cowardly re-writing of their own history by former intelligence leaders while they search for their retirement consultancies.

 

EGMORIN

9:53 AM ET

January 6, 2012

WMD

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FP2011

11:16 AM ET

February 23, 2012

Great points Linoleum

I agree with what you are saying, if you knew people were not getting your reports as they should, say something.
If the reports were not completely correct, say something..

 

F1FAN

9:19 AM ET

January 4, 2012

Hindsight is always 20/20

I love how publicly statements from politicians, the heads of the CIA, etc all come out saying one thing but then months after and when it turns out to have been dead wrong the 'intelligence community' says 'oh, we knew that info was bad all along. Those darn politicians.' does no one recall George Tenet calling Iraq's WMDs a 'Slam Dunk' isn't the Director the CIA part of the 'intelligence community'?

The CIA is and has been a failure and an economic drain for the United States.

 

PRINCEWALLY

9:52 AM ET

February 14, 2012

It's nuts

The world-wide "intelligence" community is one big gossipy game of telephone. One guy hears a rumor and passes it on to another who runs it through his recycling equipment to make it look unique before passing it on to another.

Nobody knows anything or cares about the consequences.

 

JOHN PREWETT

10:42 AM ET

January 4, 2012

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AWARENESS

3:41 PM ET

January 6, 2012

Being Aware of your intelligence

" I served in the CIA for 28 years and I can tell you: America's screw-ups come from bad leaders, not lousy spies."

What kind of BULLSHIT is this anyway? A LOUSY spy is much more believable than a bad LEADER.

That is one thing that America is famous for, and that is TEAMWORK.
Everybody MAY have their say.
A government with minimal input is just like a crippled person with a big mouth , but only slowly ging forth.

A screw up, is when your goal has the ability to become a fact, when human beings are not involved.

A lousy government, now that can REALLY BE a fact.
But a country is ALWAYS innocent consisting of millions of beautiful innocent people.

 

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7:20 PM ET

January 6, 2012

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i Agree in write about the abilities of US enemies or rivals, ignorant people accuse me of propaganda for the other side. The second sentence of the second paragraph captures most of America's problems with Idiots in Chief who think they understand strategy and the lessons of history, but they follow domestic opinion and their fears of mistakes instead of gathering accurate information about themselves and the other side(s) and creating a coherent, positive plan. In many cases, the US has armchair generals who don't know the limits of US capabilities and have no knowledge of the terrain, distances, or climate of a projected action..... pecas aeronaves

 

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JUPITER

7:51 PM ET

January 7, 2012

Not lousy spies huh?

I'm no expert, but letting a suicide bomber into a CIA outpost? Your entire Lebanon payroll getting rolled by Hizbollah? Having an Iranian-American spy hang out in the Bagram BX one month, then sending him into Tehran the next?

Sure sounds like lousy spywork to me. I'd much rather read an article explaining such recent high-profile Intelligence failures than hearing yet another former official shift the blame on Iraq and 911.

 

BEINGTHERE

5:31 PM ET

January 8, 2012

Many troubling capers, screw-ups exploded in Afghanistan

Taliban Impostors ... Raymond Davis ... the double agent taking down the eight CIA agents, and so on. I recall Petraeus, then commander in the region, hiding a smirk when he talked about the Taliban impostor who made off will millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars. Did it not really happen? Was it a planted story by the CIA to confuse the enemy? The guy on the street doesn't need or want to know all the tactics and spy magic used by the agency. But when big media stories involving the U.S. splash internationally, taxpayers deserve more than a "We-knew-it-all-along" response from a self-aggrandizing military wonk who has spent his entire life on the public dole. I think someone else mentioned this proclivity of the CIA to shrug and pretend they had the goods all along when the truth comes out about their failures. This makes the agency appear even weaker.

 

VCHALETS

12:50 AM ET

January 8, 2012

budget cuts

Did you say $80Billion on intelligence? Was that the number back when we had the September 11 incident just a decade ago, or since then? Good gracious I can't believe how much we spend to find out how many this or how many that. What upsets me is when we do find out what country is up to what, then we spend more money trying to do what? So much for getting ouf of debt anytime soon. This country is going to heck in a vintagehandbag thanks to our leaders. Twenty eight years in the CIA, I hope you have a great retirement package.

 

BEINGTHERE

3:48 PM ET

January 8, 2012

Will a quasi-celebrity at the helm help or harm the work?

Now that Petraeus is director, more attention than ever is likely to be focused on the agency. It seems incongruous that someone so needy for the spotlight heads a spy agency. This may not be a negative, though, having a self-serving, ruthless guy at the helm. He has the reputation for doing great things, more in Iraq than in Afghanistan, and a lot of that noise is due to his own self-promotion. Maybe he can do the same image-building for the CIA. Time will tell, if King David is reappointed by the Commander-in-Chief he so publicly and arrogantly challenged about the war. People flying close to the sun are always entertaining to observe.

As for agency operations and other costs to taxpayers, does anyone actually know this number? I expect Pillar to defend his former employer - or may be's still doing some moonlighting - but a more fascinating and informative piece would be more objective and less defensive. I enjoyed the reading, but I felt all along that it was based on half-truths, similar to reports from the Afghan War detailing how many Taliban leaders were killed and omitting the number of children whose faces had been blown off.

 

TARTANMARINE

10:34 AM ET

January 10, 2012

Bad Leaders and Bad Spies

I think we often have both bad spies and bad leaders, because we balk at having serious people in these positions. I highly recommend “Advice to War Presidents” by Angelo Codevilla. I’d be happy to buy a copy for Obama and the GOP challengers—if they’d read it. I will link to this from my Old Jarhead blog.

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HECTORGREG11

1:49 PM ET

January 11, 2012

always the leadership

the leadership always takes the blame, but I think that it is rightfully so. the red tape that limits our leaders from taking action and forces them to focus solely on re-election and not on improving the country. Our world has become a short sighted world where we only focus on the short term and nothing to do with the long term austin usedcars...time to focus on the greater good and making things better for future generations. Leave it better than you found it, is always what my momma told me.

 

RALPH HITCHENS

2:25 PM ET

January 11, 2012

Right about some things, wrong about others

Pillar is correct that policymakers come with broad perspectives and alternative information sources that have shaped their views, which may or may not be all that much affected by the intelligence they receive. But as he himself admits, quoting Wolfowitz, the WMD intelligence (in the 2002 NIE) was the one thing on which all the senior administration officials could agree. That intelligence was deeply flawed, & Pillar had a hand in it, if I recall correctly. Had, for example, DOE Intelligence joined the State Dept. INR in taking a footnote on the nuclear issues -- as nearly every working analyst in DOE wanted to do -- the NIE might have hit a serious rock before publication, hampering the administration's timetable & their ability to put Powell in front of the UN as well as extract the AUMF from Congress.

A more serious example of bad intelligence that Pillar neglects is the criminally stupid application of "need to know" with regard to vital information the CIA obtained from the now-famous al-Qaeda meeting in Malaysia -- that two known terrorists had multiple-entry US visas. Had this information been shared with FBI (who's representatives at CTC were in the know but not the Bureau itself), it would have been possible to track these terrorists when they entered the US a few months later and spent nearly a year in cellphone contact with Atta and the other conspirators before getting on airliners on 9/11. We had a chance to abort the whole plot, but the intelligence mantra of "need to know" triumphed and nearly 3,000 Americans died.

 

LEETCH2

2:35 PM ET

January 11, 2012

intelligence failures

You can go online and see a million stories about the CIA and talk about our national intelligence and so many stories conflict with one another. How are you ever supposed to get to the truth?

 

09BAYKID

1:12 AM ET

January 14, 2012

Intelligence cannot conquer stupidity

Do political concerns often trump logical analysis? Of course.

However, I do not share Mr. Pillar’s faith in the accuracy of the people who make up the “intelligence community.” He references Bush’s trumpeting of intelligence reports on WMD–but have we forgotten that it was CIA Director George Tenet who gave us the infamous “slam dunk” quote?

As badly as the military has bungled our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, shouldn’t some of the blame for our woeful lack of useful tactical intelligence fall on the members of this “intelligence community,” both inside and outside of DOD? I seen a post at mamaws primitives about the problem of political preferences is probably compounded by inaccurate or conflicting intelligence estimates than by presidents willfully ignoring solid intelligence.

 

TIMING

8:48 AM ET

January 19, 2012

2 things

iraq was fully justified..only the pretext was wrong and that was largely to get around a blocking and hostile UN.....

Given the context of that time, going after saddam was more than justified...even the iraqi people themselves wanted the US to come relieve them of their mad dog...anyhow, the reasons for going after saddam were many what with russian out of work nuke scientists guns for hire, post 9/11 world, saddam had already used wmd's on his own people, he was slaughtering killing, butchering, torturing(waterboarding would have been a picnic to saddam), etc...the US and all countries went after qaddafI for faaaaar less.....

second, how about the RIDICULOUS NIE 2007 scam of a document....16 agencies ALL got iran wrong ? they said iran's nuke program was halted, ,and we now know, clearly it wasnt. fordow? qom? new centrifuges being designed? weaponization studies? ballistic missile improvement? come on....that NIE of 2007 was a complete disgrace.

 

SUPAH

3:25 AM ET

January 20, 2012

One can

One can only assume that at when someone is a leader or close to it at the CIA, that their ego's and Self Confidence would be through the roof. Power gets to the heads of nearly everyone, and when it does to people in control of extremely sensitive tasks, there could be failures on a grand scale.

 

GOOGOOYOU

7:13 PM ET

January 23, 2012

not bad leaders

Aside from Pillar's regurgitation of worn out excuses and self-indulgent pats on the back, I agree with some of his points. I take exception to the notion, though, of "bad leaders", as every Administration makes poor, sometimes detrimental, decisions. Intelligence will always be focused on the priorities of the seated Administration. When an Administration prioritizes its goals on something, the intelligence community tends to over divert its resources towards that end at the expense of most everything else, especially the CIA, which covets the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) as its own. The PDB focuses on the sexy issues du jour qua the Administration's priorities, so it is no wonder the CIA focuses so much of its attention towards feeding the PDB. It, like any govt organization, has to justify its existence, and there is no better way of showing the Administration it is meeting priorities than in the PDB. So, yes, any seated Administration has lots to be blamed if something that is not a priority happens, but so does the intelligence community. The CIA seems to have a terrible history of dropping everything and everyone, when the issue or those people no longer remain an Administration priority. It is easy to blame the "bad leader", rather than take responsibility for dropping all the balls in favor of fetching a stick for the master.

lousy spies: it seems with the reported worldwide roll up of so many CIA sources and infiltrations of CIA operating bases, the endless pot of money has created lousy spies, or at least bad trade craft. The fact is, the intelligence community has spent lots of money on developing lousy spies over the past decade since 9/11, granted in response to meeting the Administrations' priorities. The intelligence community, though, needs to check its ego, a step which seems foreign to Pillar, less it continue to breed future generations of hubris laden Andrew Warrens. The intelligence community has to balance providing the Administration with what it wants to know with what it needs to know, which aren't always the same nor consistent with Administration priorities.

 

TOMMYER

8:47 AM ET

January 26, 2012

CIA

This may not be a negative, though, having a self-serving, ruthless guy at the helm. He has the reputation for doing great things, more in Iraq than in Afghanistan, and a lot of that noise is due to his own self-promotion. Maybe he can do the same image-building for the CIA garment steamer reviews

 

FAIR AND BALANCED FREDRICO

12:45 AM ET

February 13, 2012

Cheney/Bush

During 9/11 Boy George was reading "My Pet Goat" to children, while Dead-Man-Walking Cheney was was at the scene of the crime (in the White House bunker) conducting scheduled, simulated war-games to fool NORAD and the FAA into standing down. Isn't it time we put these guys on trial for treason and mass murder?

 

ERICJCLARKII

2:56 AM ET

February 28, 2012

Balanced?

You cannot be serious! You have lost the plot. Probably the 'stoopidest' post I have EVEr read.

 

KUNINO

2:22 PM ET

February 21, 2012

"This is not the place to reargue the Iraq war."

I quote the current champion of non-elected crackpot war declarations, Mr Paul Wolfowitz -- writing in Foreign Policy two-and-a-half years ago. Whether or not Mr Pillar is completely accurate in his account of how well or ill intelligence services have worked, he certainly makes a sound point by saying in effect that while the intel establishment proposes, it's other public servants who decide what to do with the information. Mr Wolfowitz thought there was a good reason to go to war with Iraq despite what intelligence was telling the government. Dr Rice could be seen as the mother of the Afghanistan war by her refusal to pay attention to CIA warnings in 2001 that something bad was coming from al-Qaeda in the near future.

Mr Wolfowitz wants us to think he still matters, and occasionally writes something for FP to support this idea. His "This is not the place to reargue the Iraq war" makes it pretty clear his is an idea not worth supporting.

How well do these wars work out? Elsewhere in FP on February 13, a reader called for anybody who thought the Iraq and Afghanistan interventions had succeeded, to write in with the reasons.

Nobody did.

Chilling, huh?