Power Play

It's time for the U.S. to stand up to China. And cutting the Pentagon's budget isn't going to help.

BY PATRICK M. CRONIN | JANUARY 5, 2012

As Asia contemplates alternative future orders, China appears to assume that its power -- rather than an inclusive, open, rules-based system -- should dominate the core of an emerging regional system. An editorial in China's state news agency Xinhua evaluated the situation at the start of 2012: "the United States' high-profile 'pivot' to Asia strategy … has further complicated China's neighborhood," but "no matter how the landscape changes, Beijing will continue to uphold the time-honored Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, deepen its friendship and partnership with neighboring countries and strive for regional peace and common prosperity." Implicit is that China stands in the center. Missing is any self-awareness of how Beijing's neighbors will perceive its actions. As Indian statesman Jaswant Singh opined last month, "Chinese assertiveness, most of it currently focused on the country's claims to the South China Sea, has been a wake-up call about the type of regional order that China would establish if it had the power."

In response to China's push back, the United States should focus on expanding a common agenda with China, but by adopting a posture that compels China to follow the rules in regards to fair trade, freedom of navigation, and other regional and global issues. The Obama administration deserves full marks for outlining a strategic vision, enhancing engagement, and elevating issues of maritime cooperation. But that's not enough: The United States needs to increase trade and investment with East Asia and continue to invest in a strong navy.

The United States must move in the direction of the 346-ship fleet recommended by the bipartisan Quadrennial Defense Review independent panel or face the danger of slipping from the present 284 combatant ships to a fleet of just 250 warships. Otherwise, it will lack the balance of power needed to credibly control -- or at least defend -- access to the sea lines of communication in and around the South China Sea, through which about half of all global maritime commerce passes. China is improving its naval and air forces through better integration of anti-ship ballistic missiles, fifth-generation stealth aircraft, submarines, aircraft carriers, cyber weapons, and outer-space systems. Left unaddressed, China's military programs will increasingly call into question America's power projection capability.  

The aim of more U.S. naval and air power in the region, however, should be to avoid war and remain steadfast in support of an inclusive, rules-based system that benefits all nations. We need to replace the traditional hub-and-spoke model of alliances between the United States and its East Asian partners with a more diffuse web of relationships where other regional partners accept more responsibility for common defense goals. A failure to do this -- compounded by likely budget cuts exceeding Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta's recommendations -- will accelerate China's relative rise.    

Economic interdependence should prevent a 21st century-style Cold War between China and the United States, but we must not let diplomatic blandishments about strategic partnership obscure the underlying realities of competition and uncertainty. Some will argue that the United States simply needs to accommodate China, but accommodation is not a strategy. If the United States wishes to perpetuate a liberal world order amid a rising China, it can best do so by cooperating from strength. That requires not just pivoting in and within Asia, but also parrying the inevitable Chinese attempts to obstruct and repulse American power.

JIM WATSON/AFP/Getty Images

 

Patrick M. Cronin is senior advisor and senior director of the Asia-Pacific Security Program at the Center for a New American Security.

CHARLESFRITH

2:24 AM ET

January 6, 2012

You Know It's Game Over

When light weight psycho shills like PATRICK M CRONIN (noted) write beastly articles like this.

 

JOHNBOY4546

3:23 AM ET

January 6, 2012

Coulda' been written from the Kremlin in the 1980s...

... [blah] [blah] The Soviet Navy must expand, not contract! [blah] [blah] Cutting the soviet military budget is madness!! [blah] [blah].

The only thing missing from this analysis also happens to be the only thing that really matters: America Can Not Afford To Do This, And So Attempting To Do This Will Bankrupt America.

Just as it broke the USSR, and for exactly the same reason.

History, repeating as farce....

 

AARKY

3:19 PM ET

January 6, 2012

A Great Shell Game

We bring an Army Brigade home from Germany and then will it wind up in Australia, ready to fight off an invasion from New Guinea? The whole idea of trying to start an arms race in the Pacific is ludicrous. It will produce wet dreams for the Amirals and ship builders, but will put the US deeper in debt. Don't believe anything you hear from the DOD and WH on cutting the military budget. When we see them talking about a wind down of our troops in Afghanistan, but then arm twist to keep there forever along with financing them for umteen more years, we know they are lying.

 

MITTAL

8:07 AM ET

January 6, 2012

Pathetic Neocons.

These are the top five shipbuilders in the world,

http://www.top5ofanything.com/index.php?h=75e48ec4

http://www.einfopedia.com/exporting-countries-major-export-countries-in-the-world.php

is this why US Navy wants to play up in Asia to join these big boys??

 

MITTAL

8:25 AM ET

January 6, 2012

Morons

Can we suggest a far cheaper alternatives for American Taxpayers, please,

Get some brokendown barge, drop anchor in the South China Sea, mount a traffics lights on its platform

put on a loudspeaker and proclaim to every International ships passing thru the busiest ships lanes in the world that

we are the US Navy the greatest Navy on Earth, you must obey our traffics signs ( red means stop, green go, yellow slowdown),

I guarantee you will get plenty of due respect nevertheless.

 

DRLAKE777

9:28 AM ET

January 6, 2012

Figure out how to pay for it,

Figure out how to pay for it, without raising taxes or cutting social programs that benefit the poor. I know the author and those who agree are probably fine screwing over the poor so the Navy gets more toys, but hopefully the rest of the country has more sense than this.

 

RENTALPOWERS

10:40 AM ET

January 6, 2012

When we go to war, they go to

When we go to war, they go to war.

Throughout the histories of warfare, from the days of the Egyptians, the Greeks and the Persians and the conquests of the Roman Empire.

To the United Nation's Police Action in Korea, the war in Vietnam, the Gulf War, and more recently during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo.

Dogs have undergone active service at the sides of their masters, they have played the role of hero, by showing bravery under fire, saving lives (often by sacrificing their own), and bringing comfort to the injured and infirm.

Atilla the Hun, used giant Molossian dogs, precursors of the mastiff, and Talbots, ancestors of the bloodhound, in his campaigns.

During the Middle Ages, war dogs were outfited with armor and frequently were used to defend caravans.

And in the Seven Years War, Russian dogs were used as messengers by the army of Frederick the Great.

Napoleon had dogs posted as sentries at the gates of Alexandria, in Egypt, to warn his troops of any attacks.

Two centuries earlier, on this side of the Atlantic, they helped the Spaniards conquer the indians of Mexico and Peru.

Then later on, it was the native North American Indians who were to develop the use of dogs for pack and draft work, as well as for sentry duty.

In the early part of the 14th Century, the French Navy started to use attack dogs in St. Malo, France, to guard naval dock installations. These were used up to 1770, when they were abolished after a young naval officer was unfortunately killed by one of the dogs.

The first recorded American Canine Corp was during the Seminole War of 1835, and again in 1842, in Florida and Louisana, where Cuban-bred bloodhounds were used by the army to track the indians and runaway slaves in the swamps!

And during the bleakest time in the history of the United States, the Civil War, dogs were used as messengers, guards and as mascots.

In 1884, the German Army established the first organize Military School for training war dogs at Lechernich, near Berlin; and in 1885 wrote the very first training manual for MWD.

In 1898, during the Spanish-American War, dogs were used by Teddy's Roughriders, as scouts in the jungles of Cuba.

By the early part of the twentieth century most European countries were utilizing dogs in their armies and for police work.

In 1904, Imperial Russia used ambulance dogs during the Russo-Japanese War; trained by a British dog fancier, who later went on to establish the first Army Dog School in England, at the start of The Great War.

The Bulgarians and Italians employed dogs as sentries during the war in the Balkans and in Tripoli, as did the British on the Abor Expedition in the Himalayas.

Dogs were used in sizable numbers in both World War I and II, particularly by the Germans, French, Belgians; and proved to be of considerable value!

In 1988, the Israeli Special Forces sent bomb carrying Rottweilers on a suicide mission, code named "Blue and Brown," against enemy bunkers in Lebanon. But more about that later!

And when the Berlin Wall came down, Nov. 9, 1989, the East German communist government was using 5,000 dogs just to patrol the wall and another 2,500 watch dogs plus 2,700 so called horse dogs to patrol their borders.

During the Gulf War, at least 1,177 highly trained German Shepherds were use by the French forces to guard and protect their troops, supplies and aircraft. The USA used 88 teams.

But it was initially during the days of the Roman Empire, that entire formations of attack dogs, frequently equipped with armour or spiked collars were sent into battle against the enemy as a recognized and effective instruments of offensive warfare.

However, recently with the development of modern long range warfare and the consequential change in military tactics, the value of dogs as combat soldiers has steadily diminished.

But at the same time their usefulness in other military activities has increased.

This is their story and in some ways, mans as well! When we go to war, they go to war.

Throughout the histories of warfare, from the days of the Egyptians, the Greeks and the Persians and the conquests of the Roman Empire.

To the United Nation's Police Action in Korea, the war in Vietnam, the Gulf War, and more recently during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo.

Dogs have undergone active service at the sides of their masters, they have played the role of hero, by showing bravery under fire, saving lives (often by sacrificing their own), and bringing comfort to the injured and infirm.

Atilla the Hun, used giant Molossian dogs, precursors of the mastiff, and Talbots, ancestors of the bloodhound, in his campaigns.

During the Middle Ages, war dogs were outfited with armor and frequently were used to defend caravans.

And in the Seven Years War, Russian dogs were used as messengers by the army of Frederick the Great.

Napoleon had dogs posted as sentries at the gates of Alexandria, in Egypt, to warn his troops of any attacks.

Two centuries earlier, on this side of the Atlantic, they helped the Spaniards conquer the indians of Mexico and Peru.

Then later on, it was the native North American Indians who were to develop the use of dogs for pack and draft work, as well as for sentry duty.

In the early part of the 14th Century, the French Navy started to use attack dogs in St. Malo, France, to guard naval dock installations. These were used up to 1770, when they were abolished after a young naval officer was unfortunately killed by one of the dogs.

The first recorded American Canine Corp was during the Seminole War of 1835, and again in 1842, in Florida and Louisana, where Cuban-bred bloodhounds were used by the army to track the indians and runaway slaves in the swamps!

And during the bleakest time in the history of the United States, the Civil War, dogs were used as messengers, guards and as mascots.

In 1884, the German Army established the first organize Military School for training war dogs at Lechernich, near Berlin; and in 1885 wrote the very first training manual for MWD.

In 1898, during the Spanish-American War, dogs were used by Teddy's Roughriders, as scouts in the jungles of Cuba.

By the early part of the twentieth century most European countries were utilizing dogs in their armies and for police work.

In 1904, Imperial Russia used ambulance dogs during the Russo-Japanese War; trained by a British dog fancier, who later went on to establish the first Army Dog School in England, at the start of The Great War.

The Bulgarians and Italians employed dogs as sentries during the war in the Balkans and in Tripoli, as did the British on the Abor Expedition in the Himalayas.

Dogs were used in sizable numbers in both World War I and II, particularly by the Germans, French, Belgians; and proved to be of considerable value!

In 1988, the Israeli Special Forces sent bomb carrying Rottweilers on a suicide mission, code named "Blue and Brown," against enemy bunkers in Lebanon. But more about that later!

And when the Berlin Wall came down, Nov. 9, 1989, the East German communist government was using 5,000 dogs just to patrol the wall and another 2,500 watch dogs plus 2,700 so called horse dogs to patrol their borders.

During the Gulf War, at least 1,177 highly trained German Shepherds were use by the French forces to guard and protect their troops, supplies and aircraft. The USA used 88 teams.

But it was initially during the days of the Roman Empire, that entire formations of attack dogs, frequently equipped with armour or spiked collars were sent into battle against the enemy as a recognized and effective instruments of offensive warfare.

However, recently with the development of modern long range warfare and the consequential change in military tactics, the value of dogs as combat soldiers has steadily diminished.

But at the same time their usefulness in other military activities has increased.

This is their story and in some ways, mans as well!

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HYPERTECHNOLOGY

6:20 PM ET

January 6, 2012

excellent writing

excellent writing indeed.

Thanks

 

LIAHASAN11

11:02 AM ET

January 8, 2012

Over the past few years,

Over the past few years, there has been a growing tendency to dub Muslims as terrorists. And leading from the front in this blame game is none other than the superpower, the United States. It is extremely sad that such a tolerant and loving community is being dubbed as behind the terror outfits.

It is gross injustice that the Muslims of this world are being treated as second class. How many of you think that Muslims are behind the terror plots, no matter where they happen? No doubt most of the terror outfits are comprised of Muslims, but is it correct to say that all Muslims are terrorists? If we look at the community as a whole, the Muslims will outnumber almost the rest. Indeed most of the rich nations are Muslim nations.

There are a few misguided youth who have spoilt the spirit of Islam, disturbed the Muslim norms, created havoc in the world, revoked the laws of the land, disturbed peace, affected fraternal relations, and above all marginalised the facets and tenets of the KORAN --the Holy Book-- that has been leading several generations ever since it came into being. It is not just the Muslims that bow before the Koran, I being a non-Muslim, too, bow before the most sacred book, and I have no doubt in saying that millions of non-Muslims treat the Koran as their HOLY BOOK--much like the Geeta of Hindus, the Bible of Christains, and the Guru Granth Sahib Ji of Sikhs. All these sacred, religious books preach their followers fraternity, brotherhood, and love for all --no matter which religion they belong. Wouldn't it have been wonderful, had all of us followed our religion, keeping in mind the sanctity of all other religions?

this is my request to everyone..standby your faith, your religion, your prayer, your worship, your norms, but for God's sake don't use the pious name of God for violence, waging wars, letting bloodshed, diluting sacred human values, massacring men, women, children and old n infirm,---just for the sake of POWER n SUPREMACY over others.

ASK God when, you leave for haven, how correct are those indulging in gross human rights violations just to gain power n prestige just to create dread, fear n havoc in the world.

Muslims are a religious community, who believe in the sanctity n virtues of the Koran n the Prophet --the Great Prophet, who taught them to fight those who kill innocents, to wage a jihad against those who r antihuman-- not against all n sundry..

So, how did Muslims started being dubbed as terrorists? Being a community rich of strength n valor, the powerful Muslim lords saw themselves reaping dividends by ruling over the world. Just this was the beginning...n the rest is history, v much the present--may b d future too.

But can we let the blood of our brethren, n fellow citizens flow like this in suicide bombings, bomb blasts n all such atrocious tactics of the so-called terrorists? The disgruntled few r in a state of dissatisfaction n to satisfy themselves have started waging a war on innocents that they call as jihad. however, they fail to understand that in doing so, they have tarnished the sacred name of ISLAM, n invited criticism from world over..resulting in the world calling the entire Muslim community as associated with terrorists.

For God's sake stop calling Muslims terrorists. They are a community that loves its religion, its God, its Prophet, and upkeep human values. The dissatisfied n misled among them r the real culprits, who need to be justified. I have so many Muslim friends and trust me, they all believe in upkeeping human values, they believe in brotherhood, fraternity, their heart cries at the suicide bombings, their lives r disturbed by terrorist activities. They love humanity, first.

Do you know so many Muslims have died in the suicide bombings and bomb blasts? If the terroists who care so much for their religion, loved their religion n fellow Muslims, will they kill them? Will they place bombs at places where muslims r predominant? will they target muslim locations n habitations?

they have targetted muslim habitations..hyderabad in INDIA is a glaring example, where so many muslims were killed in the blast incide the mosque. such disgruntled elements placed the bombs inside the mosque only to create misunderstanding between different communities so that people fight each other out, which would result in the victory of the terrorists.

A Muslim scholar from Pakistan says: "Our religion teaches us that the murder of an innocent person is the murder of humanity as a whole. "

MUSLIMS r not terrorists. muslims r friends n fellow citizens. please do not mistake such a tolerant community because of a misled few!

 

KEYBASHER

10:45 AM ET

January 6, 2012

Don't bet on China just yet

The ten years after hosting an Olympics are fatal to one-party states. To wit:

1936: Berlin Olympics / Garmisch-Partenkirchen Winter Olympics
1946: Allied Occupation

1980: Moscow Olympics
1990: Collapse of Communism

1984: Sarajevo Winter Olympics
1994: Yugoslav Civil War

2008: Beijing Olympics
2018: ?

Let’s hope China manages a smooth regime change – for once in their history!

 

PROTOKNOWLEDGE

10:53 AM ET

January 6, 2012

China and the Korean peninsula

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

China's greatest victories will not be won by it's battleships. The article suggests that China will prevent the Unification of North and South Korea to protect it's interests. I don't think this is the case. If China was to behave in a manner consistent with it's historic and cultural past, and in support of its' role as a regional power, China will work to unite Korea which would bring a powerful new ally, and be a huge victory for China in ending the Korean war, and replacing the half century old cease fire with a peace treaty. By uniting Korea China would be seen as a savior and peacemaker in the region that successfully eliminated the North's nuclear threat. This would exacerbate the image of the US and Japan as imperialist warmongers.

This scenario would eliminate China's security issues on the Korean border, remove the excuse for the presence of US forces in the DMZ, provide access to South Korean military technology, increase the potential for an East Asia free trade Zone, and fundamentally undermine the legitimacy of a strong US presence in the region. All of these outcomes are declared or undeclared goals of China's military and foreign policy.

 

NANJING03

11:15 PM ET

January 6, 2012

A Not Unlikely Happening

Perhaps, but there is another diplomatic and military model to consider here. China will not likely tolerate getting dragged into another devastating and catastrophic war with the U.S. on the Korean mainland because of North Korea's harsh behavior toward the Republic of Korea to the south and continuing military actions like the destroying of a South Korean Navy destroyer with the loss of all personnel a couple of years ago. China could conceivably invade and occupy North Korea and annex it as one of its so-called indigenous regions like so many regions in the far western part of the country. Ironically, such an arrangement would be safer than what exists today, but there would never be any chance of a reunification of Korea at a later date and time.

 

SPOOD

10:33 PM ET

January 7, 2012

China isn't going to do much with its military

China won't go to bat for North Korea except in the most symbolic sense. North Korea is a liability to them, but breaking off ties would be even worse for everyone else. China's growing economic ties to the US, East Asia and the West in general keep things from getting too heated. China is less a potential military adversary than a petulant business rival

Think of China's relationship to North Korea like the parents of a child in drug rehab. Sure there is some affection and care, but they still don't leave their wallets lying around. They aren't going to go to war over North Korea, at worst they would be a major partner in multilateral talks to cool things down.

>>This would exacerbate the image of the US and Japan as imperialist warmongers.

I can see the US, but Japan as an imperialist warmonger? Not since 1945. They can't even cross their own borders with their current military (UN peacekeepers and fuel ships notwithstanding)

 

JOHNKRINE

1:08 AM ET

February 1, 2012

Could happen

It wasn't that long ago that the US and China were duking it out in North Korea. This could happen, although it is less likely now since Kim Il Jong died, but maybe there is enough irrationality still left there to have it happen. modern furniture austin lets see how things shake up soon though.

 

KUNINO

1:58 PM ET

January 6, 2012

Cronin kicks his own nuts

After poking a lot of fun at the idea of an Obama pivot, Mr Cronin then points out that China has been making big advances in its part of the world -- and far beyond it -- because, in his view, American hasn't pivoted in that direction earlier*. This points out pretty clearly that his opening remarks were, to be extremely polite, either silly or malicious.

He was certainly odd in his mention of "bilateral maritime measures, like a hotline with Vietnam". Vietnam and China share an extensive land border. The whole hotline issue is a throwback to earlier technologies. Pick up a phone right now and call the White House. Or London's Scotland Yard police headquarters. Or ... you get the idea. I see no threat in the ability of China and Vietnam to talk to each other by phone. Neither do I see anything dastardly in plans for "a free trade zone among China, Japan, and South Korea." Neither does Mr Cronin, apparently. He doesn't explain why that would be a worry, just wants it to worry us.
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* Cronin: "Beijing has taken advantage of America's relatively light presence in the region over the past decade"."

 

TPH2010

2:43 PM ET

January 6, 2012

Stand up to China??

China is no threat to us. Ridiculous war-mongering.

 

GHODGIN

5:24 PM ET

January 6, 2012

China's history shows...

That it expands to its borders and it stops; even when the Chinese were the most powerful civilization on the planet (13th and 14th centuries), there was no world-wide Chinese colonialism, unlike the European powers later on. China has almost always engaged in defensive actions in its history: after all, they built the Great Wall to keep "barbarians" out of the Middle Kingdom (although the Romans did build Hadrian's Wall up in Britain, the comparison is still apt). China's humiliation at the end of the 19th/ beginning of the 20th century led it to insist upon renegotiating all its old colonial treaties and being treated as an equal. China's the only country that has a definitive second-strike policy for its nuclear weapons. From a military standpoint, the Chinese just want enough of a military to ensure that invasion or striking Chinese targets will be incredibly costly.

Economically, it's a different story.

 

CHARLESFRITH

6:04 PM ET

January 6, 2012

What Is It With The Jewish Mafia At Foreign Policy

Cronin is the latest Lizard Chickenhawk jerking of to war porn at any opportunity. We need to hang this intra species predator.

Can't Foreign Policy get a few Asian and African writers in who aren't part of the .lizard HQ Council On Foreign Relations?

It's so icky.

 

JONAS FOUNDS

7:10 PM ET

January 6, 2012

Just stop feeding the monster

Cool, the military industrial complex gets to build and sell more ships.

Naturally we will keep shipping our jobs, companies, technology and money to China. We will keep wondering why China keeps getting stronger and the US weaker.

Maybe history is just repeating itself, have we not after all provided MILITARY assistance to the Soviet Union during the height of the cold war? Congressman Lawrence McDonald would tell you about it, just too bad the Korean Airways plane he was on was shot down by the Soviets. Gary Allen’s book about the Rockefellers explains it pretty well too, so the information is not lost.

Please do not get me wrong, I love the Chinese people, love their food, their acupuncture, Feng Shui, Tai Chi etc. What a great culture to learn from. My problem is with their autocratic government. There is a leadership that does not believe in democracy, has no respect for human rights or for intellectual property, could not care less about environmental standards and does not show a friendly attitude towards the US. Why in the world do we have a free trade agreement with them? We are currently witnessing the complete de-industrialization of the US, soon we will no longer have the infrastructure to manufacture a loaf of bread in this country.

I am not calling for a radical end of trade with China, I understand that the world economy is very fragile right now. However let us use some common sense, do we really want to allow them to economically undermine our country without at least insisting on them becoming a democracy comparable to India? I mean is everyone completely asleep at the steering wheel or are we just hypnotized by the glitzy world of electronic media, more concerned about who will get voted off tonight’s TV reality show?

So on the one hand we are feeding the Chinese dictatorship and on the other hand we are increasingly entering in an arms race with them. It is like stepping on the accelerator and the brake at the same time and then wondering why you are burning so much fuel and why the brake pads don’t last. Hallooo???

The whole thing makes no sense, you say? Well it makes a lot of sense if you are a military contractor, at least in the short run it does. Throughout history, empires designed by geniuses have risen and eventually fallen due to complete incompetence. I guess why should ours be any different.

 

LINDASNET

7:50 PM ET

January 6, 2012

'Shell Game'

' The whole idea of trying to start an arms race in the Pacific is ludicrous. It will produce wet dreams for the Amirals and ship builders, but will put the US deeper in debt. Don't believe anything you hear from the DOD and WH on cutting the military budget. 'When we see them talking about a wind down of our troops in Afghanistan, but then arm twist to keep there forever along with financing them for umteen more years, we know they are lying. saude aeronaves

 

NANJING03

10:58 PM ET

January 6, 2012

Prevention v. Preparation

Get used to China being a major maritime sea power, at least in the western Pacific and Indian Ocean where their life blood flows from aboard fleets of oil tankers. Remember, there is not a drop of oil in the ground anywhere in China. If there is, somebody spilled it there. Meanwhile, the U.S. Navy can remain ahead of the Chinese Navy through continuously advancing submarine technology and undersea warfare, something the U.S. Navy excels at, ongoing research and development, and the maintaining of forward bases in the areas of Central Command and Pacific Command. Consider those areas the "new" NATO of the 21st century. Meanwhile, it would be a big mistake to cut back below the 175,000 force level of the Marines where they will be needed to maintain the force levels of existing MEUs and forward support. Meanwhile, the Army can maintain it's current size by shifting manpower and infrastructure capabilities to the National Guard and Reserve while maintaining training and force readiness in tose entities on par with remaining active duty forces and at less cost.

 

FORLORNEHOPE

8:25 AM ET

January 7, 2012

He who pays the piper

China doesn't need to worry about a confrontation with the USN. It just has to hint that it might be losing interest in US Treasury bills. That's pretty much what President Eisenhower did to Sir Anthony Eden in 1956 and it worked a treat. Of course there is a cost involved but it's much cheaper than a shooting war.

 

TEXASAGGIE

3:55 PM ET

January 7, 2012

Better than most

I do believe China is the most significant threat at the moment. This article at least is reasonable. I agree the title needs to reflect the work. The fact is projecting power that far across the world is hard. China can not project power but it could contest it should we find ourselves at war. The current Navy does not need more ships. It needs a professional officer corps. The war fighter mentality is all but gone. Bureaucracy needs to be eliminated. With that said currently, and in the next 10 years China will not be able to do much. We should be thinking about our response, and our capability. The answer is not tech, it is having the men educated and trained to fight well with the tech.

 

GOEDEL

6:08 PM ET

January 7, 2012

Interests and threat; whose interests and threats against whom?

The two words, interests and threats, are the most dangerous words in our language as they are most often used in commentary. The greatest promoters of my interests are seldom elected to office where they can do me some good. The greatest threats to my interests and actors against them since the end of WWII have been and are those very short-sighted, ill advised and bad people who in most cases were and are those in high office in our country. The greatest terrorists, in my view, have been and are the Presidents, Secretaries of State and "Defense", leaders in the congress, who following WWII have toppled legitimate, non-threatening foreign governments in Latin America, Asia and Africa and brought down upon our country the enmity of their suffering peoples. They are the same high officers of our government who have started wars of aggression in the same far flung continents and been the cause of death and suffering of tens of millions of their inhabitants and tens of thousands of our young service people. They are the same officers who have supported the cruel dictatorships that took the place of elected governmentsand tortured and "disappeared" their own peoples in the name of fighting Communism. Our leaders have been my worst terrorists. Osama bin Laden, who took "credit" for 9/11, killed 3,000 Americans on that day. That is only a fraction of a percent of the people our leaders have killed, maimed and displaced in the past sixty-six years, including our own. That is only a fraction of those our leaders have killed in the name of the war on terror since 9/11. They, our Presidents, leaders of congress, cabinet secretaries have been the real enemies of the American people, the 99 and 44/100s percent, and our leaders still are everyone's worst terrorists.

 

BEINGTHERE

5:11 PM ET

January 8, 2012

OMG! China has declared war on us??

And we have Iran on our tails, too.

Look, The Pentagon has so much fat it'll never miss what it's not even aware it has. I'm so tired of hearing media interviews with Panetta yammering on about the cuts. It's his job to get it done and report back to taxpayers where the cuts were and how much it saved us.

 

JOHNKRINE

11:21 PM ET

January 31, 2012

It could happen

The United States is losing its power and to get involved with Iran and China would be a terrible mistake. Lets be honest about this, we have enough problems at home with unemployment and all of the other social issues. Lets focus on ourselves for once and get our kids off of drugs and out of drug rehab centers in florida. This will help a lot and also get us focused on our future, the children.