From Paris with Love

Dear Mitt: What's this European socialist nightmare you're so afraid of? Trust me, la belle vie ain't that bad.

BY ERIC PAPE | JANUARY 13, 2012

PARIS – Cher Mitt: Sitting here with a glass of Bordeaux Graves 2005 in my local wine bar in Paris, I am getting the distinct impression that you haven't managed a meaningful séjour in France for a while.

It's normal, I suppose, given that you've been running hard for the presidency for far longer than my grapes were fermenting. But I'd like to invite you over here for a drink, Mitt -- you can knock back a Coke, neat -- and we can have a little tête à tête.

You said some things recently, amid the glow of your victory in New Hampshire, that perplexed me and I'd like some clarification. Enough of your campaign-trail advocacy for "economic freedom" and the creative chaos of capitalist destruction, Mitt. You're far enough ahead of your Republican competitors to afford yourself a little freedom, right? You've earned Paris. You may not believe it, but France has changed a lot since you learned to speak French here as a teenage Mormon missionary. (For one, French taxes on really rich people, like you, have gone way down.)

In New Hampshire, you talked about Europe, which is where I've been based as a journalist for most of the last decade. With the grin of a victor, you asserted that President Barack Obama "wants to turn America into a European-style social welfare state," which sounded especially sinister because you contrasted that with your own intentions to "ensure that we remain a free and prosperous land of opportunity."

Listening to you, it sounded pretty nasty, though I admit my interpretation may be a bit skewed -- always a risk in countries where there is so much good, cheap wine, and so much time to enjoy it.

But I'm not clear on which part of a European-style social welfare state so offends you in 2012, four years into a global economic crisis that certainly wasn't triggered by Europe? Could it be what some Republicans refer to as a "Socialist" medical system, even though most European leaders are centrist or right wing? I would explain to you how I was glad to be able to limit my concerns about the fragile health of my Franco-American infant son during his complicated birth, without the additional fears of how many years it might put my family into debt, except that it's clear from the health care bill you passed as governor of Massachusetts, that you're already sensitive to such issues.

And what about your jab that Obama "takes his inspiration from the capitals of Europe," while you and your supporters "look to the cities and towns of America"? Is it really so bad that European leaders are trying, however awkwardly, to bring their nations together after creating lasting peace on a continent that emerged from the horrors of World War II and the Soviet Union on its doorstep? Dictatorship has been almost entirely banished from a remarkably diverse continent, while on a smaller scale, obesity, that lethal American import, remains a novelty.

But what really got me thinking over my plate of frites and moutarde was this line: "I want you to remember when our White House reflected the best of who we are, not the worst of what Europe has become."

What is "the worst," I keep asking myself? But before I hazard a few guesses, I want to thank you for your concern on behalf of the Europeans here, chain-smoking beneath winter heat lamps out on the chilly terrace. It is rough out here in Paris. Since the global economic crisis kicked in, French unemployment increased by about 25 percent. (Then again, American unemployment increased by about 50 percent in that same period -- and the U.S. rate is higher, at 8.5 percent, than the averaged unemployment rate of the eurozone's two largest economies, France and Germany.)

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Eric Pape is a writer in Paris.

EIGHTHGEAR

7:01 PM ET

January 13, 2012

The problem with Euro Socialism

European socialism when combined with overly burdensome regulation and taxation have lead to stagnant private sectors in France, Italy, etc. With the exception of wine and nuclear power plants, French companies are no longer world-beaters. They just can't innovate like American companies. Look at the internet: it is dominated by websites that are mostly developed in America. Britain and the Scandinavian nations are better off than France, but still lag behind in innovation. Also, in order to afford the benefits you describe, France and the other Mediterranean European states have had to raise taxes - but many people don't pay them. Tax dodging is honorable in Italy. If a government can't raise taxes, it can only borrow, and that has been what European nations have been doing. Before 2008 they lived under the arrogant notion that European nations don't default, only Latin American or African ones do. But they the crisis came and they were pushed on the brink of default.

This is not an attempt to lambast all of socialism. Some socialist practices can be good. But if you want a good example of an alternative to American capitalism, look at Canada, Sweden, Finland, or Norway. Not France.

 

RADIMAN

9:35 AM ET

January 14, 2012

Why Invoke Socialism as the Problem...

I can go along with most of your comment, but to blame the social norms of non-payment of tax on Socialism is out of date, in my view. To say that the nations which are fairing badly in Europe don't innovate and don't for example tend to own large websites is not a good method to measure this, after all innovators in these countries would be running websites in their own language, and as English speakers we will never see them.

Also, have you ever taken the thought process one step further for these southern Mediterranean countries, wonderful places as they are, and full of lovely people. They don't tend to pay their taxes fully (that's not an accusation it is evidently a fact), but equally do you think that they take much notice of all these regulations rained down upon them from the other European States? Compliance with these regulations is highest in the wealthiest nations, Germany, UK, France, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, where they actually administer and enforce them. Elsewhere, the same culture as pervades their attitude to non-payment of tax can be assumed to apply.

What does that say to you about these EU laws and regulations which you indicate are choking off innovation?

 

JAMES BAIN

11:59 PM ET

January 15, 2012

Euro socialism

I'm amused, because the United States Army uses a variety of software developed in and marketed by France for handling financial affairs.....like paying the troops.
And while you're at it, why don't YOU tell the readers what happened the last time anyone cogently tried to compare the boons and usufructs of socialist democracies in Europe with our excellent system over here in America?
Allow me to recommend a website-among many, I'm sure-which chillingly depict OUR system's myriad faults: http://www.prosebeforehos.com/image-of-the-day/04/20/america-were-not-1/
Read it, then come on back here and share with everyone.
I, for one, would ADORE socialism. I'm broke, 58, and all those terrific job creators I hear about sure as heck aren't skipping down main street here, baskets of jobs under their arms and liberally tossing handfuls to cheering crowds. Unless, of course, I'm drunk on French wine and hallucinating all this.

 

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8:52 PM ET

January 16, 2012

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JKLAIRWIN

4:38 AM ET

January 17, 2012

Selective comparisons

Without getting into the merits of the French system, I wonder why you ignore one of the most socialistic of all European countries - Germany? Not only do they have a very advanced social system, they are the envy of the world, including the United States, for their economic success and innovation. And speaking of tax avoidance, the US , with currently one of the lowest actual first world taxes, especially on the super rich is the king of tax avoidance and ou fright tax cheating. Just look at all the off shore accounts, the evisceration of the IRS audit agency and the piles of corporate money hiding offshore. France has some problems ( perhaps not as many as the US), but it is no Greece. And don't forget the countries like Ireland and Spain that got into financial trouble not because of socialist spending, but by bailing out private sector banksters at taxpayer expense (just like the Bush and Obama Gqoldman-Sachs crews).

 

MINIMEME

4:13 PM ET

January 18, 2012

what on earth could be wrong

what on earth could be wrong with France, a society with permanently high unemployment, no insurance, little opportunity for minorities, and a permanent penchant for picking failed national champions. Sure, that's what America needs also! At a time when the literal bankruptcy of the European soft left (but especially France's) model is plain for all to see, it is amusing to see someone speak up for it. I would think him brave but I am afraid he is just clueless.

 

JEAN-MARC

6:41 AM ET

January 19, 2012

No world-beaters, think again

French or French lead:

Largest satellite launching company in the world: Arianespace
Largest and best selling airplanes in the world: Airbus
Largest and safest nuclear plant builders and operator in the world: EDF + Alsthom + Areva
Largest household appliances in the world: SEB
Largest in the world: l'oreal, LVMH, Lafarge, ...

2 or the largest car makers in the world: Renault-Nissan and Peugeot.
2nd largest supermarket company ITW: Carrefour

And much more ...

ie:
http://www.arianespace.com/index/index.asp

 

COSSACK

1:29 AM ET

January 14, 2012

The size, geography,

The size, geography, population, historical and cultural experiences of U.S. are vastly different from those of any European nation. For these reasons, the social-democratic model of Europe will never work in U.S. where private sector has dominated the economy for the past two centuries.

 

DSUMMONER

2:45 AM ET

January 14, 2012

The ironic timing of this piece

On the day in which the debt of nine Eurozone countries saw downgrades.... the timing of a piece extolling the virtues of European socialism (and that is exactly what it is) is rather ironic. It is also interesting to read about the author sipping wine while the funds of others were used to pay for the 'complexity' of the cost of the birth of his child. It makes for a rather insightful statement, albeit unintended on the part of the author, of the mentality of 'someone else should pay' for the author (and those of like mind) to engage in his (and their) lifestyle choices.

 

SKEETER1587

3:24 PM ET

January 14, 2012

Well stated. An overwhelming

Well stated. An overwhelming number of Greeks work in the public sector with an alarmingly high pay scale. Many don't pay taxes. And in order to fight against the Euro crisis...which the author of course blamed on the rich...France and Germany HAVE displayed severe austerity measures. I'm glad the author's child was taken care of...he should make sure to write a thank you note.

 

SAM FROM CALIFORNIA

5:44 PM ET

January 14, 2012

Huh

french and german "austerity" still features higher spending/taxes than the Democrats would even dream of.

 

NOSOLEMIO

9:28 PM ET

January 15, 2012

Whats funny, is that all of

Whats funny, is that all of these countries would loooove to be in America's place and stick their dirty thumbs everywhere without insurance. A weak kid who plays victim all the time, but around those weaker than him, he is the bully. Envy is behind the actions of all these regimes who claim that they just want to live in peace.The ridiculous thing, is hearing all this America-bashing from some European countries and Russia whose only export is drugs and handmade jewelry. I guess they all have forgotten how they used to stick their thumbs and bleed the world dry for resources and slave labor for centuries.

 

SKEETER1587

3:28 PM ET

January 14, 2012

A stretch

" Is it really so bad that European leaders are trying, however awkwardly, to bring their nations together after creating lasting peace on a continent that emerged from the horrors of World War II and the Soviet Union on its doorstep? Dictatorship has been almost entirely banished from a remarkably diverse continent, while on a smaller scale, obesity, that lethal American import, remains a novelty."

What a horrendous comment. Yes it WILL really be so bad if the Euro tanks and brings the rest of the world economy down with it. The author writes this in such a way to make European leaders sound like they're running a goddamn soup kitchen.

 

MJACOBSON

5:13 PM ET

January 14, 2012

Excellent, Eric

Eric, I love this article - one that Mitt should read. Does he remember his Mormon days at all? With all that harsh rhetoric, it's hard to imagine him having any memories of good times at all.

This thing about American freedom - I'm sure you find it as funny as the rest of us. Yes, getting the right to vote means freedom. Ya, sure.

This perpetual one-sided promise about the return of American success and prosperity is sidesplitting funny too - a fully out of control printing press for the last 4 years, and there's need for more prosperity? This picture of trillions being spit into the belly of America makes me want to find a pretty French bistro and find some of the incredible Bordeaux 2005 and discuss the incredible madness with some intelligent beings.

 

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6:50 PM ET

January 14, 2012

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6:55 PM ET

January 14, 2012

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FREETRADER

3:48 AM ET

January 15, 2012

Is this article meant facetiously?

Seriously, is Mr. Pape joking? Unfortunately, he appears to be serious, which is sad, both for the cause of humor and his 'journalistic' credibility.

Mon Dieu, what on earth could be wrong with France, a society with permanently high unemployment, little opportunity for minorities, and a permanent penchant for picking failed national champions. Sure, that's what America needs also! At a time when the literal bankruptcy of the European soft left (but especially France's) model is plain for all to see, it is amusing to see someone speak up for it. I would think him brave but I am afraid he is just clueless.

 

TECHGUY

5:58 PM ET

January 16, 2012

Wrong title to use

From the title of the article I was thinking it had something to do with the movie "From Paris with Love" starring John Travolta, I guess I just have to watch it through Blockbuster total access tonight.

 

JIMGREIG

9:38 AM ET

January 17, 2012

Only the Very Rich Can Afford Paris

As my uncle remarked after visiting Paris: "the dollar is worth nothing in Euros, and the Euro is worth nothing in Paris."

The problem with European socialism is that if you aren't rich now, you never will be, and if you aren't rich you live in a shoebox, take public transportation, and eat wonderful bread because you cannot afford meat.

 

PALMER

2:41 PM ET

January 17, 2012

We Americans ought to open our eyes

Jim Greig: your uncle is kidding. I visited Paris several times when I was stationed in Europe, and like New York, Chicago and other large cities it's somewhat expensive--but not very. An ordinary person can have a very nice time in Paris for a moderate amount of money.\

I spent nine years in Europe--three in UK, six in Germany--during my American military career. It was always a bit of culture shock moving back to the U.S. Um, I hate to say it, but Europe is nicer, and the people are happier and healthier. The level of prosperity, the general tidiness and cleanliness, the lack of fear that a health crisis will bankrupt you, are very noticeable in Europe. An ordinary German or Frenchman with an ordinary job can have a very high quality of life. We ought to be looking at what they're doing right. Yes, most European countries have a form of capitalism known as a Coordinated Market Economy rather than our Liberal Market Economy, but they are still fundamentally capitalist, and in general their populations live better and are healthier than Americans.

Take a drive around anyplace in America. There are a whole lot of ratty, run down places and down and out looking people. We ought to be taking a hard look at ourselves and asking why our system is failing so many of our people.

As a retired military officer, I am not exactly a left-wing radical, but I also have seen with my own eyes that there are other ways to run a country and economy that just might be as good or better than ours. We ought to drop our smug self-satisfaction and think about how to make our country better.

 

RANDY NICHOLSON

8:05 AM ET

January 21, 2012

Americans

How completely arrogant to believe that our way is the "best" or only way. A viable retirement system and plausible healthcare system are goals we need to work towards. We have hollowed out our own systems and left our citizens with dogma and pestilence. What do you say to the boomer who believed as you do that the privatization of retirement was the right course only to have his life savings wiped out by graft and mismanagement? How about "tough luck buddy your last 20 are really gonna suck" what is so great about a system that has transferred the fruits of the highest productivity in the world away from those who produced? This is not an honest system we have here and our ability for peaceful change is diminishing daily. Could it be the author is sipping wine while others pay for his sick child because be has a day off and can? Would you have him work three jobs to pay for his misfortune and place his child in a fatherless life of misery because fate has dealt the cards accordingly? Surely your bombast has inspired our leaders to make decisions that have not benefited us nor the future of this country. In the book Atlas Shrugged the producers stopped producing and the world collapsed. Who do you think the producers are? And how will they spend their last twenty?