BY HELEEN MEES | JANUARY 17, 2012

Since the 2008 financial crisis, Wall Street has been the perpetual whipping boy for the ensuing recession that has rocked the global economy. In the United States, Manhattan bankers relied too heavily on subprime mortgages, the story goes, sparking the crisis -- in bureaucratic jargon, what is dubbed a "regulatory oversight failure." In Europe, the debt crisis -- which struck again last week when the credit-rating agency Standard & Poor's stripped France of its AAA rating -- is often blamed on the fact that eurozone governments maintained outsized debt-to-GDP ratios, thereby breaking the rules laid down in the Stability and Growth Pact they signed when they joined the currency union.

U.S. President Barack Obama has laid the blame at the feet of Wall Street "fat-cat bankers," and he finds himself in the company of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke. Even Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney criticized Wall Street for "leverag[ing] itself far beyond historic and prudent levels" in his 2010 book, blaming its "greed" for contributing to the crisis. The concept of runaway European profligacy, epitomized by 35-hour work weeks and gold-plated pension programs, is also firmly lodged in the popular imagination.

But these explanations for the twin crises in the United States and Europe simply ignore the facts. Subprime mortgages with exotic features accounted for less than 5 percent of new mortgages in the United States from 2000 to 2006. It is therefore highly unlikely that they were solely responsible for setting off the housing boom that ultimately went bust. The explanation offered for the crisis in the eurozone overlooks the fact that Spain and Ireland -- two of the weak links in Europe today -- were actually paragons of virtue in terms of the Stability Pact. Both countries boasted budget surpluses in the years leading up to the crisis, and both had debt-to-GDP ratios of roughly 30 percent, or only about half the level that was permitted under the Stability Pact.

The immediate cause of the housing bubbles in the United States and the eurozone periphery was not regulatory oversight failure, but the precipitous drop in interest rates in the early 2000s. And the country that bears partial responsibility for depressing interest rates is a traditional punching bag in the American political arena, one that has somehow avoided most of the blame in this round: China. The ascendance of the world's most populous country in the global economy not only changed the terms of trade, but it also had a considerable impact on the world's capital markets.

The chain of events that led to the current economic breakdown began in 2000, when the Federal Reserve began to lower the Fed funds rate, its main policy lever, to stave off a recession following the bursting of the dot-com bubble. The Fed slashed the rate from 6.5 percent in late 2000 to 1.75 percent in December 2001 and then down to 1 percent in June 2003. It then kept the rate at 1 percent for more than a year, even though inflation expectations were well above the Fed's implicit inflation target and the unemployment rate was down to nearly 5 percent, which is considered the natural rate of unemployment. All the while, the Federal Reserve dismissed warnings about a nationwide housing bubble, with then Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan even denying that it was possible to have such a thing.

The low interest rates initially sparked the refinancing boom -- or as commentators liked to say, Americans used their houses as ATMs. Between the first quarter of 2003 and the second quarter of 2004, the time when the Federal Reserve held its main policy rate steady at 1 percent, two-thirds of mortgage originations were for home refinance. Americans got themselves indebted up to their eyeballs and went on a prolific spending binge with their newly acquired cash. Spending out of home equity extraction amounted to $750 billion, or more than 4 percent of GDP, in 2005 alone.

Fed policymakers generally looked favorably upon remortgaging as a source of personal consumption expenditure. In his now infamous 2005 Sandridge lecture, Bernanke, then a Fed governor, boasted of the "depth and sophistication of the country's financial markets, which … allowed households easy access to housing wealth."

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Heleen Mees is assistant professor at Tilburg University and researcher at the Erasmus School of Economics in the Netherlands. Her latest book is Between Greed and Desire -- The World Between Wall Street and Main Street.

STEPHEN WEBER

7:36 PM ET

January 17, 2012

Mayan Calendar 2012

Deep thinker. Who kept a tight economic structure for years, China.
Who has been the lowly manufacturers of everyday products... China.
So China is at fault.

But you forgot that the Mayan Calendar predicted 2012 as the end of the world and the same type of connection could be made with your loose logic. The end of the world must have a turning point a bit earlier. So 2008 seems very logical because it is there.

 

RRAFAY

7:54 PM ET

January 17, 2012

Terrible Article

This type of analysis is really quite sad.

Short on facts, long on baseless claims.

Actually, 5% of Subprime is enough to cause a crash. Especially, when no mention is made of how these mortgages were leveraged. Secondly, Alt-A is not mentioned either. When both are taken together, they represent roughly 15% of the US mortgage market.

Secondly, the idea that Chinese surplus capital led to an excess supply of money is so weak, that it is mind boggling that someone would even suggest this. China only holds 7% of total US debt.

Each country mentioned had a housing crisis, Ireland, Spain, and the US. Yet, to gain notoriety this Assistant Professor decides to come out with a crazy explanation that is very weak.

 

JFOO

5:48 PM ET

January 19, 2012

completely agree

I don't think the author of this article understands leverage...when you're leveraged 30 to 40 times of your capital...a 5% loss could easily bring down the economy. Certainly some of the points made are valid, in a sense...abundance of capital from China was basically an enabler for the US. However, in the end, the fundamental problem is that people took on mortgages they couldn't afford, and all the leverage was build on a house of cards (securities based on subprime mortgages that were falsely rated as triple-A assets).

 

DJOHN5854

11:21 PM ET

January 19, 2012

Agreed 100%

Weak article... We are always looking to blame others for our problems, when in fact we are still living them today. We spend twice as much as what we make.

That my friends is the crux of the problem.

It is called: living beyond your means.

And: artificial government intervention with free markets.

Both are a pure recipe for disaster.

George
insurance agents

 

PHILBEST

6:07 PM ET

January 20, 2012

You're right, 5% is enough to cause a crash

Especially when the "5% by quantity" is far more than "5% by VALUE".
It was the bubble in house PRICES, especially in California, that caused the crisis. Most US cities had no price bubble at all because housing development is still pretty lassez-faire. There is actually plenty of land to go around, and it is only planning and permissions processes that enable land bankers to force prices up, and this affects the entire property market in the city concerned.
There was a high quantity of "sub prime" mortgages in Georgia, but these mortgages were often for only $80,000 or less, and were made to unemployed solo mums. In California, sub prime mortgages were $400,000 to $2,000,000. This is where the damage occurred. Read "The Big Short" by Michael Lewis; the smart hedge funds were shorting mortgage backed securities for Californian mortgages and little else. There was no point shorting them in Texas because prices didn't go up much, they just built lots of affordable houses.
Building lots of affordable houses is actually good for the economy most of the time, and when there is an "overbuilding" episode, it does not cause a global financial crisis, because the prices of ALL property remained flat.
In Ireland, Spain, Las Vegas and Phoenix, they managed to have price inflation first, THEN an overbuilding phase driven by speculators that did not lower the prices because the whole process of "supply" of new housing was still limited by planning and permission, to land supplies cornered by speculators. Only lassez-faire, highly elastic land supply competition prevents this.
The economy in Texas is doing well now because building lots of affordable houses provided jobs, there was no spike in prices to cause a collapse later, and people are moving there now, keeping the construction boom going - because employment prospects are high as well as houses affordable. California's house prices are still far too high compared to incomes and employment prospects - they have "crashed" but nowhere near enough yet.

 

WGJ

9:05 PM ET

January 17, 2012

How dare those damn chinks to stop being dirt poor!

The author of this article must be in total agreement with Chancelor Merkel of Germany who claimed that a major cause of Global Warming is that many people in India are consuming meat nowadays since for the first time they can afford it.

 

MYAFZAM

10:53 PM ET

January 17, 2012

why?

why China? because America is the most effected by the crisis so they looking for the who doesn't he like to be victim?

 

JOHNX

8:24 PM ET

January 27, 2012

Why China?

Yes similar question was asked on NYT. Why can't iPhones, iPads, and other Apple's magic gadgets be built in the States? ...because the infrastructure and labor Sony HX9v force doesn't exist at the levels necessary to support Apple. That is the simple truth.

 

TROY C

6:58 AM ET

January 18, 2012

We need to accept that there

We need to accept that there were numerous causes of the Financial Crisis, and we need to consider all of them individually. Economic policy that might work from home in the West will not necessarily translate to a popular policy in modern China. Only when we can fully appreciate the diversity of the world economy will we be able to prevent another crisis happening.

 

MARKTHOMASON

9:04 AM ET

January 18, 2012

interest rates

Nonsense. China did not deliberately depress the interest rates it got as return on investment of its own money. Those rates went down because we offered more debt to the market than it would buy at any higher rate. It was a function of our volume of debt. Our debt volume was driven by our own speculative pricing of our own internal assets to our own market, residential real estate, and consumer debt.

This was encouraged by our economic advisers, who thought they had found the cure for recession in economic expansion and money supply theory.

The Chinese did not do this. We did it to ourselves. Those among us who did it, and profited from doing it, are trying desperately to blame anyone else. But it is still their fault, and nonsense explanations like this one won't fly.

 

PHILBEST

6:14 PM ET

January 20, 2012

Human stupidity - "house prices can never fall"

It works both ways. If masses of people started investing in insurance underwriting because they were convinced that natural disasters had stopped happening, the cost of insurance would fall, and possibly too much insurance would be taken out. Then when a natural disaster DID happen, there would be a "systemic crisis".
This is what happened with mortgage securities - investors thought they were 100% safe - "everyone knows house prices can never fall". This is nonsense anyway, and this is what caused the crisis.
Can you believe that Australia's house prices are now in a worse bubble situation than California's, Ireland's, and Spain's - yet Australians still think, "we are different"? So if you want something to blame for these crises, blame human stupidity. Blaming "the free market" is like blaming the system of weights and measures for obesity.

 

WMCCOMNINEL

9:49 AM ET

January 18, 2012

The Moral Equivalent of War

“…But it was China, not the U.S. economy, that prospered on Americans' spending binge…China's savings rate increased from 38 percent in 2000 to 54 percent in 2006. China's savings are heavily skewed toward risk-free assets, perhaps because the Chinese are culturally more risk-averse…The large buildup of savings in China and other emerging economies (mostly oil exporters) depressed interest rates worldwide from 2004 on, as too much money was chasing U.S. Treasury bonds and other supposedly risk-free securities, driving up the price of bonds and driving down interest rates…Despite all the acrimony in Europe about northern eurozone governments' bailing out the periphery, the actual costs of the bailouts are low if you take into account the windfall that Germany and the Netherlands have reaped due to lower borrowing costs…The economic cataclysms in the United States and Europe may seem driven by their own peculiar circumstances at first glance, but both would have been much less severe without China's ascendance…”

This seems like a nice way of saying that the powerful elites of powerful nations (China, Germany, USA) transferred wealth between all of the world’s nations creating ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ to suit their own ‘Economic Master Plan’ and the consequences to their own sovereign nations’ populations be damned. The American government ‘sold out’ common Americans by first sending their jobs to China and then depleting those Americans’ home equity by transferring that accumulated wealth to the people of China in the form of US Treasuries.

Another interpretation is that this was a novel form of ‘Foreign Aid’ to China which befuddled Americans on a spending spree ironically believed was their own way of showing the rest of the world just how prosperous they were. Some, like me, were never so fortunate to own our own homes and saw the scam for what it was from the get-go; a way for the powerful elites of the world to designate economic ‘winners’ and ‘losers’ without the usual mess of waging another World War. But if you were a soldier with no personal financial assets serving in Afghanistan or Iraq like me during this time frame the difference between the powerful elite’s Jamesian ‘Moral Equivalent of War’ and an old-fashioned World War was functionally insignificant.

“…war taxes are the only ones men never hesitate to pay, as the budgets of all nations show us….” William James http://www.constitution.org/wj/meow.htm

 

MITTAL

10:12 AM ET

January 18, 2012

False Logics and demented economical thinking

Back in 2004, when Alan Greenspan & Ben Bernake were inanely suppressing US interest rate to below 1%, China was just a twinkling in grandpa's eye, and ranking as world sixth largest economy at best, and China could not possibly had such outlandish influence over the world economy.

This article is rubbish of economic theory.

But now China certainly does hold the fate of western world in its little fingers or dare we say it: claw??

 

PHILBEST

6:21 PM ET

January 20, 2012

China's savings fuel bubbles even in China

But China's savings were far more significant. Chinese went without dental treatment so they could lend money to people who get hip replacements, to speculate on housing.

China NOW has a huge property bubble of its own, and when it bursts, the USA will be the economy in the world that is in the "least trouble". There has already been an "Asian Crisis". Another one is happening now, because of Chinese and Indian property markets.

Apartments can be built and put on the market far more cheaply in Houston than in California or China. Why? Because in Houston there is no racket run by local officialdom, in land for urban development. You can call it what you like - "urban growth containment", or "planning gain" perhaps. The fact remains that this is a racket where all property bubbles begin.

 

CVJ

12:46 PM ET

January 18, 2012

False reasoning

How can spending pattern in US & Europe be tied to China's & India's growth. US & Europe are looking into ways to ward of the responsibility.

 

RCHIAN

1:09 PM ET

January 18, 2012

here we go again

Another version of what the Chinese saying " blame the toilet for one's inability to pooh".

 

WMCCOMNINEL

1:40 PM ET

January 18, 2012

Horse Sense

Paraphrasing Kung-sun Lung who wrote, “A white horse is not a horse”; “Horse $%&! Is not $%&!”.

 

JORDAN HAMEL

2:48 PM ET

January 18, 2012

Cause?

Sorry, but I was in China 2005-2008 during the "boom" there and saying China's boom caused the Financial crisis is like saying Hostess caused obesity.

we make it we buy it, no ones forcing you

we make the loans like 100% interest ARM mortgages and brag about how house ownership was higher than ever in our history how can you blame other countries for buying our low interest rates thereby fueling house buying? We made it, they bought it...

 

HECTORGREG11

10:02 AM ET

January 21, 2012

good point

No one if forcing us to buy the goods from China, but lets look at the point the author is bringing up, that the US lowered interest rates giving Americans a load of cash from refinancing their homes. So the US is to blame for trying to keep up with the runaway train that is the Chinese economy autos usados but let us not forget that the actual way to get rid of hiccups which this is just a bump in the road and the world will recover.

 

ATIMOSHENKO

5:07 PM ET

January 18, 2012

Just no

There was not fundamental cause to the crisis – the crisis resulted from a massive amplification of small shocks because the structure of the financial system has been mutated to be highly fragile to unexpected events.

Who is responsible for the structure of the global financial markets? Wall Street and the City. 99% of the blame lies at their feet, and their feet alone.

 

THE_OBSERVER

6:22 PM ET

January 18, 2012

Giving economics a bad name

If the author can write that with a straight face then I'd be surprised. People and governments should take more responsibilities for their own expenditure. In the USA, people should also remember the savings and loan crisis, Enron, Worldcom. dot-com boom and bust, no docs home loans, mortgage securitization with no oversight, neo-con inspired unecessary wars; aid, grants and subsidized armaments going to autocratic and theocratic regimes; leveraged blow-ups, credit default swaps blow ups, Madoff, etc. A lot of that has been about greed, showing off or power plays.
I actually like the fact that goods are now cheaper owing to the economies of scale Chinese production. With the resultant savings it allows me and others to pay off my mortgage early or to invest more. Sensible, and I think closer to the rational economic person of classical economics???

 

PHILBEST

6:39 PM ET

January 20, 2012

And it gets even better

In most US cities, "freedom to build" means that no matter how low interest rates get or how easy credit gets, house prices don't go up. This is like a "best kept secret". This is why so many cities and some States never really had a crisis at all and are booming now. Low interest rates just meant even shorter time periods taken to pay off mortgages, more disposable income, more people owning homes, more jobs in the building trade, more migrants coming from California where houses are too expensive, more business start-ups (businesses like cheap urban land too).....

The very low interest rates of Bernancke et al now means that Texas is romping, while California can't restart its economy thanks to STILL-TOO-HIGH urban land prices and stifling regulations. "The USA" has similar problems now, to the EU - trying to provide monetary policy that has to cope with Greece, Spain, Italy, AND Germany.

 

POPSIQQ

9:29 PM ET

January 18, 2012

So the Chinese did it?

Just because they didn't maximize their exposure by 'investing' in insurance derivatives on sub-prime mortgages and left the good guys house of cards to fall down, is no reason to blame the Chinese. They've been 'giving people the business' a lot longer than the most knowledgeable HSM grad.

You might have mentioned that the Chinese have 'organized' the second phase of the catastrophe to happen the first time somebody gets the bogwillies and decides he's getting his out while the getting's good. Just so when that balloon goes up, too, we'll all know who's really at fault.

But in the interim the Chinese economy, lumbering along at a glacial 8.9 percent rate of increase and facing a problem with inflation making things (like investment returns?) heat up, is also experiencing the kind of economists' wet dream that really pulled America out of the Great Depression - an unsated, and unindebted, consumer population. Why shouldn't the Chinese be able to market their 'dollar store junk' and Ipads and electronics to themselves? There are almost twice as many of them as there are indebted and increasinglyimpoverished Americans. And they all see how America lives on TV..

This piece comes off like that biblical "wailing and gnashing of teeth in the darkness". Many are called and some screw themselves out of the trip by trying to go first.

 

KENTOUBUDDY

1:43 AM ET

January 19, 2012

I've seen better from undergrads

I've seen better economic analysis from undergraduate students, and this contributor is actually a professor. I feel sorry for the students who learn economics from her. There was a time when FP actually provided some decent analysis, but it seems those days are long gone.

 

DISIGNY

10:31 AM ET

January 19, 2012

Blame

So the disaster was initiated by the Fed's response to the Dot Com Bubble?! And therefore the Chinese are at fault?!

 

LWJR

12:08 PM ET

January 19, 2012

It's the TRADE DEFICIT numbskull

The US Trade Deficit with China/India/Brazil is at the root of the crash, along with Reagan's INTERSTATE Banking deregulation initiatives. NIXON opened China to bust US unions and now guess what....the MIDDLE CLASS has been busted with it and can't afford to make house payments. Division is our problem ... the arrogant LEFT and the greedy RIGHT. Let's get some 'good people' in office, not millionaires like Romney and Radicals like Obama.

 

THE_OBSERVER

4:41 AM ET

January 20, 2012

Nixon and Kissinger

@LWJR
If you studied a little history you would know that Nixon and Kissinger brought China in from the cold as a counterweight to the then USSR. They correctly assumed that the second front would cause the USSR no end of trouble and expense and that directly led to the eventual collapse of the Soviet Union. The deal for China is that they were brought into the world's capitalistic system and, to be fair, I don't think Nixon and Kissinger would have expected such quick ascent from what was basically an agrarian non-scientific society.
On a personal level, it has been great that the drop in prices of many consumer goods has raised my living standards and that of my family whether it be DIY equipment, electronic and and IT goods, household goods, etc.

 

MARTY24

12:13 PM ET

January 19, 2012

We voted for it

The simple reality is that we the voters chose the policies that produced the great recession.

We voted for ever more entitlement spending, making saving for the future (the "sin" the good professor blames for the whole mess) less necessary. Entitlements support consumption, and if there is more demand for consumption than the domestic economy can meet, that demand will be met from abroad. Over time, that results in a cash hoard abroad and growing debt domestically. To reverse this, it will be necessary not just for a public that has been convinced that it can consume more than it produces to reduce consumption below production, but for a foreign public that values savings to start consuming more than it produces. Neither of these changes is likely, and the domestic end of it is impossible with the current political leadership.

Over-consumption necessarily leads to lower savings, which increases the need for entitlements in the future. For large parts of the western public, personal savings are close to zero. How are these people planning on living when they retire, or if they lose their jobs?

Replacing payroll taxes with a consumption tax that includes elements that "internalize" all the current externalities would present consumers with the actual choices they are making and lead to more intelligent decision-making. A consumption tax on "housing services", the income generated by home ownership, would act to balance the incentives people have to overbuy housing, reducing the prospect of a housing bubble. We don't do this because the incentives to homeowners, a majority of the voting public, makes doing the right thing politically unpopular.

We voted for separating production from reward, so today there are lots of people who make real contributions to society (think Wikipedia contributors, and Linux programmers) who are paid nothing, while the people who produce nothing but risk (financial manipulators on Wall Street) can pay themselves millions.

Why not link reward to risk, as financial theory suggests? We might require that all financial sector bonuses be put on deposit at the FDIC for a period of ten or twenty years, and be availabale as the first line of defense when savers have been put at risk by their shenanigans. Maybe the prospect of losing money they see as theirs will provide some discipline.

Neither party is prepared to advocate for what needs to be done because that won't get them elected. Until the voters are prepared to behave like adults and demand that their leaders actually lead, there is no prospect of fixing the problem. We have met the enemy -- it isn't China -- it is us.

 

MITTAL

3:08 PM ET

January 19, 2012

Financial Collapse

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fed-Latest-Easing-Could-Cost-cnbc-3941022975.html?x=0

This remains heart of US financial problem.

Dollarhas been being slowing destroyed since 2000s in inane attempt to continuing prop up the market.

Soon lenders of last resort won't lend anymore, and people will not trade anymore, and you can not buy anything whatever amount of money you have, when all human decency gone and mutual trust in any kind of global finance finally bankrupt.

 

MATTSULLIVAN33

11:49 PM ET

January 19, 2012

Author Does Not Make Her Point Well

The author is correct that the entrance of China into the free market economy, which was a windfall to China's people, forced the US to keep its rates down in the hopes of staving off cheap labor competition. The cheap interest rates made housing prices rise and poorly underwritten loans easy to sell. This created the housing bubble. When the bubble was detected, the rapidity and precipitous of the drop of housing credit and punitive regulation drove a stake in the heart of the housing market and remains contracting to this day.

I do not think the author is blaming the Chinese for purposely blowing up the US economy and Western economies. Even the vaulted Chinese are not smart enough to do that. She is mere pointing out that the force of the growth of the Chinese market created a shock.

Out of the goodness of our generous hearts and the drive-to-profitability of our stock holders and their friends in Washington, we brought our woes on ourselves by giving China, with the gangster Communist Party, the equivalent of most favored trading status. This was despite the fact that China has never been on a level playing field with property rights, copyright laws, labor laws, human rights...you name it. Ultimately though, our society will economically defeat that of a slave camp with judiciously placed increased tariffs. No doubt they are coming.

Any comparison with US human rights is specious and absurd. As one example; although we allow mothers and their doctors to kill their own babies we have not quite gotten to the civilization apex of China in allowing bureaucrats to kill babies directly. We are marching in that direction though.

Things will be much better when Obama is out this year. Absolutely no one, not even his supporters have enough confidence in his administration to invest in the US market right now. It is the classic crisis of confidence and it will soon be over when Romney is elected. It is even killing Europe.

Strange the shrillness of some of these responses. Do I detect some Communist party operatives on this blog? We will see…

 

WMCCOMNINEL

9:55 AM ET

January 20, 2012

Fighting words.

“Strange the shrillness of some of these responses. Do I detect some Communist party operatives on this blog? We will see…”

Seems like you would like to see a good old fashioned witch hunt here in America. Did you enjoy the recent story in the news about the woman in Saudi Arabia who was beheaded for being a witch?

 

MATTSULLIVAN33

6:09 PM ET

January 21, 2012

Ah ... a leftist

It seems that every time you bring up the expression Communist you find some leftist flailing about worried about a Communist Red scare in America. You and your buddies are not going to intimidate me from calling a spade a spade. But actually in this case I was referring to Red Chinese Communists, not you garden variety ‘useful idiots” in the US.

 

WMCCOMNINEL

10:27 PM ET

January 21, 2012

Ah... a moron

The last time I bothered to vote was by absentee ballot in Iraq in 2004 where I was stationed as a military intelligence Sergeant - to re-elect Bush. Since then I have seen how I was sold out by everyone - left, right and center - and now I only distinguish between those who have profited at my expense and those who have also been sold out. You flatter me by calling me a 'useful idiot' for fighting your wars for you but you also make it simple for me to know that you are someone who profited at my expense. Call what you do by whatever -ism you like; I call it ungrateful, selfish hypocrisy.

 

TONYSILVA

10:58 AM ET

January 21, 2012

predicted

everybody predicted in the depth of the Lehmann crisis that the US? would fall and a new Great Depression would occur. Well that didn't happened. China is no different. Neither China nor the USA are a failed Potemkin state like North Korea. It has a functioning economy and strong exports. Decline maybe. Collapse unlikely.
chargrillerduo5050

 

ADAM ONGE

1:09 AM ET

January 22, 2012

The Chilly War

On the whole, America can blame itself for China’s rise. There are certainly various other factors, but the naivité and arrogance of US politicians like Nixon and Kissinger who were so intent on beating up the Russian communists that they thought they can “use and manipulate” China for that purpose, together with the short-sighted greediness of US businessmen on Wall Street(and Wal-Mart consumers) were the main causes of “China’s Rise”. I interpret Deng Xioaping’s famous quote about the colour of the cat as follows: In order for China to become a “superpower” it has to go through an economic and technological “Great Leap Forward”. Deng wanted technology transfer from the West. Russian communism wasn’t helping the Chinese economy too much in those days (except for introducing ballet!) Well, in the 90?s, many people in the West were so naive. All they were thinking was how to make a “quick buck” out of the huge Chinese market and labour force, but the Chinese think more strategically and in China, there is no division of State and Business. Look, who’s got the money now. That’s not even the main goal for China. What they really wanted was technology transfer and they got it big time (through offering cheap labour). Perhaps they would have gotten that by hook or by crook (industrial espionage) someday anyway, but the faulty economic and political decisions made in the West expedited those Chinese goals. We will have to wait and see what the economic, political and environmental effects of “China’s rise” will be for the rest of the world, especially for the smaller countries in Asia and Africa. After giving away valuable and fundamental know-how and technology for short term gains, it is hard for the capitalists in the West to complain that the Chinese are now capable of cloning (reverse engineering) any high-tech product (including stealth fighters and DF-21D’s). In fact, China has the cash now and can easily buy off technology from high-tech Western (especially German) companies and natural resources (energy and minerals) from the Third World (and Canada!). In a strange twist, Chinese Communist Party is proving to be much more efficient at running a “Capitalist State” than the parochial politicians in the US. The impact of China’s rise is “worrisome” in the mind not just of the average American, but also for many other people in the rest of the world, but I have always have the naive view that creative and intelligent human beings are always attracted towards an open and flexible society and the question now is whether Americans will dig deeper into their souls to see what they really are made of and whether China will become a more open and democratic society. If both of these scenarios happen then it will be a win-win situation. Money and politics are made by the people, not by Wall Street or the CCP.

 

YOSHIMICHI MORIYAMA

10:19 AM ET

January 23, 2012

No Fault of China's

China has a lot of shortcomings in spite of its addiction to boastfulness. Perhaps its monumental boastfulness is itself one of its greatest shortcomings.

We cannot blame China, though, when and where it has made no fault.

 

DORSA42

7:56 PM ET

January 24, 2012

It's like the old 'which came

It's like the old 'which came first, the chicken or the egg' debate. Both US and China both have issues. I dont think there is definitive answer.
Industrial Workbenches

 

TOYOTABEDZROCK

1:09 PM ET

January 25, 2012

STOP DISTRACTING

This has little to do with China.

THE CAUSE OF THE CRASH LIVE HERE IN AMERICA AND IT'S TIME WE PROSECUTE THE THIEVES OF WALL STREET!

 

ALANCHRISTOPHER

3:36 PM ET

January 25, 2012

America's Financial Destruction

The US destroys its own finances. Twice in this decade, US business and financial leaders proved that they are liars, thieves, and criminals. In the US Accounting Scandal of 2002-2003, 40,000 CEOs, CFOs, COOs, corporate presidents, vice presidents, and senior executives lied about their profits so they could cheat corporate investors of huge bonuses that they didn't earn. In the Financial Scandal of 2008 to the president, US financial institutions created sub-prime mortgages, made them 40% of the US mortgage market, created mortgage-backed securities for insurance, created hedge funds to bet against their own securities, coerced ratings agencies to give AAA ratings to securities that didn't deserve AAA ratings, and sold the fraudulent securities to investors. Twice in this decade, US business and financial leaders cheated NATO, Europe, the Middle East, Asia, Pacific nations, Latin America, and the US, and they proved to the entire world twice in this decade that US business and financial leaders are liars, thieves, and criminals. These are crimes that the US committed, and they have nothing to do with China except that Chinese investors were among the many victims of the US criminals. The author ignores the wars and their impact on US finances. For the past 10 years, the US has destroyed its computers, cell phones, digital cameras, and fertilizer, the basic components of smart munitions. The US has destroyed its ground and air vehicles. The US has burned billions of gallons of gasoline, diesel fuel, and aviation fuel. The US has used billions of man hours in unproductive activities. The US chose to engage in these activities, and China had no control over US policy. Prior to 9-11, 60% of scientists, engineers, and technicians in the US came from Asia. After 9-11, Homeland Security was established and it hindered visas for Asians to the point that increasing numbers of these intelligent, skilled people set up companies in Asia to compete against US companies, and more Asian scientists followed their lead rather than try for US visas. US technology companies moved to Asia for talent because they could not be certain that Homeland Security would let enough scientific talent into the US. The US is solely responsible for the decisions of Homeland Security and for the losses that the US suffered as individuals and companies took actions to overcome US restrictions. China has no responsibility for US security policies that have harmed US economic growth and US prospects for future economic growth. The US has caused its own financial and economic problems with its crimes, its wars, and its excessive security.

 

MARCUS GEISUO

5:58 AM ET

February 4, 2012

This article is absolutely

This article is absolutely ridiculous. Keep blaming everyone else. Blame the moon, the rocks, the ants, blame the weather etc. What about taking personal responsibility for once and admit your own faults.

 

HANS KLOSS

5:48 AM ET

February 16, 2012

Out of the goodness of our

Out of the goodness of our generous hearts and the drive-to-profitability of our stock holders and their friends in Washington, we brought our woes on ourselves bet365 by giving China, with the gangster Communist Party, the equivalent of most favored trading status. This was despite the fact that China has never been on a level playing field with property rights, copyright laws, labor laws, human rights...you name it. Ultimately though, our society will economically defeat that of a slave camp with judiciously placed increased tariffs. No doubt they are coming.

 

SSTOP

7:51 AM ET

February 17, 2012

Israel Companies entering china

Even companies from Israel trying to expand to china. Israel Corp, one half of the 50/50 venture is Israel’s largest holding company. They specialise in shipping, chemicals, and energy. They are joining hands with Chery Automobile company China......

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